The Final Pill

[Anonymous No.13201859]

After reading Plato, Aristotle, Plotinus, Augustine, Aquinas, Kant, Hegel, Fichte, Rousseau, de Maistre, Proudhon, Marx, Heidegger, Ratzinger, Schmitt, Tolkien, Taylor, Hobsbawm, Moldbug, Land, kantbot and the Holy Bible, I have concluded that Socialist-Integralist Catholic Monarchism is the final pill.

Anyone else know this feel?

[Anonymous No.13201873]

>>13201859
>after Plato
No. There is nothing after Plato

[Anonymous No.13201896]

The final pill is sobriety

[Anonymous No.13201906]

>>13201896
Wrong. The Socialist-Integralist Catholic Monarchy has no love for (((Temperance))).

[Anonymous No.13201918]

>>13201906
shut up faggot. you rattle off names like a 17 year old girl rattles off makeup brands. your lego ideology means nothing.

[Anonymous No.13201919]

>>13201918
read more faggot

[Anonymous No.13202053]

>>13201873
Correct, Plato is the end of western civilisation and Aryan culture, everything that has followed is merely an exploration of death and the different ways one can die.

You must return to the presocractics, and then deeper, if you want to taste the shadow of real life.

[Anonymous No.13202075]

>>13201859
>Supporting Pétito unironically

[Anonymous No.13202079]

>>13201859
I bet his parents are soooo proud of him awe cutiepie

[Anonymous No.13202091]

>>13202053
Philosophy is a footnote on Plato, at best

[Anonymous No.13202122]

>>13202053
Lmao Plato wasn't a part of western civilisation. There's nothing tying the Greeks to "western civilisation". Aristotle explicitly denounced European people as uncivilised and unintelligent barbarians.

[Anonymous No.13202126]

>>13202122
>There's nothing tying the Greeks to "western civilisation"

You’re a special kind of stupid

[Anonymous No.13202134]

>>13202126
The Enlightenment was a blemish on Western Civilization and all memory of it will be excised in the future.

[Anonymous No.13202143]

>>13202126
>"the nations inhabiting the cold places and those of Europe are full of spirit but somewhat deficient in intelligence and skill, so that they continue comparatively free, but lacking in political organization and capacity to rule their neighbours."
Woah, this swarthy Greek man was just like us!

[Anonymous No.13202147]

>>13202122
Aristotle and all Greeks recognized themselves as Europeans as opposed to asiatic or Libyan.
Every non-greek is barbarian to them. If you meant they had low opinion of them, Greeks had low opinion of almost everything non-greek, and had an ok opinion of some other European people.
Besides they are the starting point of western culture. Obviously they are lightly tied to other cultures present on the geographical area before Greek influence but that's an extra brainlet argument. And that's forgetting the bonds with other European cultures in terms of language, traditions, law, material living even at the time.

[Anonymous No.13202157]

>>13202147
Greeks hated each other. I’m sick of this Greek talk. The Greeks killed Socrates. Plato wrote where Socrates said not to. Aristotle turned his back on Plato. No one is in agreement. Most importantly, We wouldn’t know any of these people if the Arabs hadn't of preserved and translated the texts. now SHUT THE FUCK UP

[Anonymous No.13202159]

>>13202143
Europe doesn't mean what you think it means. Hellas is European. Things belong to western civilization largely due to Greek influence.
You have a sentence about sarmatians and related people (what he means here) that is not even that dismissive of them. You could have cherry picked better about the steppe niggers he is talking about, for instance from herodotus.

[Anonymous No.13202160]

>>13201859
>Socialist-Integralist Catholic Monarchism
Sounds like political augustinianism.

Organicism, i.e. national-socialist imperialism and fascist mono-archism based on thomism and purified hegelian/rosminian idealism and ontologism are where it's at.

[Anonymous No.13202162]

>>13202122
>Aristotle
Western Civ had ended by the the time he was relevant so your point is moot.

[Anonymous No.13202171]

>>13202147
There is literally nothing tying Greece in the Socratic age to 1300s Britain. Western civilisation is just codeword for "the White Race".
>b-b-but the west was influenced by the Greeks
Yeah and so were Arabs, why aren't they a part of the west?
>muh Islam
Oh so the pagan Greeks can be grouped together with all of Europe and its various religions but can't be grouped together with arabs? Strange, the only common denominator seems to be whiteness.

[Anonymous No.13202180]

>>13202171
Go back to your discord, tranny.

[Anonymous No.13202181]

>>13202171
what's the problem?

[Anonymous No.13202182]

>>13202157
People can dislike each other while forming a cohesive group. Do you think every single soldier in, say, Anglo imperial armies liked each other? It never stopped them working together and have a common culture.
The second point is almost as embarrassing. Virtually nothing from the Greeks comes down from Arabs. They ordered (from conquered people) botched translations and often destroyed the originals. Knowledge of ancient Greek was extremely deficient. Entire domains of writing were plain destroyed and even those that were not were in a much better state of conservation and scholarship in Greece itself or even in western Europe. The rare ancient Greek things we have from Arabs and not from Greeks are a few pieces of ancient stupidity like alchemy. There is like one chapter of one treatise on military machines that we got from them only.

[Anonymous No.13202183]

>>13202159
What's your point? He says people living in the cold places and in Europe are unintelligent and unskilled so that they can't even rule their neighbours. This is identical to the rhetoric we hear about other races today. Yet you want to group him in with an abstract notion of "the West" when he would have rejected it himself.

[Anonymous No.13202188]

>>13202160
Fascism is peak death-drive modernism, foh

[Anonymous No.13202189]

>>13202171
Actually The West via Greece is a continuation of Egypt and through Egypt to Lemuria you fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.13202203]

>>13202171
>>b-b-but the west was influenced by the Greeks
>Yeah and so were Arabs, why aren't they a part of the west?
They have entirely different conception of law for starters which is a big deal. They also have a language from a completely different group, don't share any old historical bonds and never identified as such. Meanwhile even far away French kings larped as having ancestors from homeric tales.
The Arabs were not very influenced by the Greeks. They had their own thing and if any ancient culture influenced them it was Iran. A very few people over centuries giving very strange interpretations of Aristotle doesn't make Arabs 'Greek influenced' any more than Germany being hindu because Schopenhauer.

[Anonymous No.13202214]

>>13202203
Are you retarded? The reason we even have the writings of the Greeks is due to Arabic manuscripts. Arabs were translating Plato and Aristotle while muh master race was living in caves and painting their faces blue.

[Anonymous No.13202215]

>>13202188
lol

Mussolini said Fascism to be « a new principle in the world, the clear final and categorical antithesis of Democracy, Plutocracy, Freemasonry and the eternal principle of 1789 »

[Anonymous No.13202238]

>>13202183
The west expanded over time. It's obviously not a geographical category here.
I feel like I'm on /his/ arguing about med bvlls retardation by people that are butthurt about either England or Germany.

[Anonymous No.13202246]

>>13202215
The alleged “anti-modernism” of fascism is, in the main, not genuine. Even the most “green” or “primitivist” iterations of the phenomenon tend to be advocating for an alternative modernity or for a return to a previous or archaic state of civilization, and not for an end to regimes based on domestication, domination, command, and alienation.

[Anonymous No.13202252]

>>13201859
Liberalism... is its tolerance of the intolerant a good idea?

[Anonymous No.13202257]

>>13202246
Could you please prove it instead of just being on a very supoerficial level ?
I see nothing "modernist" in fascism.
Modernity does not equate modernism.
Tradition is not something "stationary", it is not a statu quo but a process.
Brb trying to find a quote from Mérel's Présentation de l'Institut Charlemagne to give you his view on this.

[Anonymous No.13202268]

Since time is in fact circular, it is not in the past that the present ought to be measured in order to prepare for the future, it is by the extreme future (the concept of what is ideally to be realized) which is also the origin of the past, which thereby assumes the past only by revising it.
When the present is decaying (and such is the sad condition of our times), it is natural that we tend, in a reactionary fashion, to return to the past, because illness is a corruption of the health it presupposes ; reaction is opposed to progressivism, which dreams of an infinite, linear movement towards a necessary progress (as opposed to the past situation). But the reactionary spirit opposes progressivism only by adopting the same postulate, namely the linear conception of time ("things were better before"), and as such, is the partner-in-crime of progressivism. To return to the past to ward off the catastrophe of a future, potentially contained in a decaying present would re-engage the process of giving birth to this present decadency. The proper method of promoting real progress, then, is not to return to the past as a paradigm - thus to a past that needs to be made present again - but to return to the past in a critical perspective, namely to make present only what was timeless within the past, and to what the past itself was inadequate (if it had been adequate with it, it would never have given birth to a decaying present), in order to promote a future which, far from progressivism, is inscribed in the "telos" of a return to the Origin (the concept of what has to be, first in intention and ultimate in execution), which, far from the reactionary spirit (sacralization of the past as past), is ablative of temporality itself and of the past. It is not because this shifting, collective, historical reality, which is France, has become aware of its vocation only within and through its history, that its past history should be taken as the proper expression of its concept.

[Anonymous No.13202270]

>>13202257
Mussolini was a rabid, fedora-tipping atheist who sought to subjugate the Church. That's all I need to know.

[Anonymous No.13202301]

>>13202270
Care to provide a SOURCE on that very serious accusation ?
Catholics love truth, not lies.

-he was spiritualist and came back from his former "redness" to become a Catholic.

-The Roman Question was definitely solved by Mussolini in 1929, after ~70 years of problems.

-He stated explicitely in his Verona Manifesto, in 1943
>6. The religion of the Republic is the Roman Catholic Apostolic one.

Just because he opposed a decadent clericalist catholic aristocracy doesn't mean he was anticatholic.

[Anonymous No.13202308]

>>13202301
He wanted to do to the Church what Hitler was building with "Positive Christianity" in Germany. And he died an arheist.

Stay mad, fash.

[Anonymous No.13202321]

>>13202308
Hitler was Catholic too.

The "positive christianity" was a prudential measure in order to not create dissenssion between Catholics and Protestants.
And the positive christianity of the NSDAP ought not to be confused with Rosenberg's (who used the term after its use in the 25-point Program, dating from 1920, in his Mythus, dating from 10 years later).

But I see you're a man of little culture who spits on heroes' graves in the name of a religion you obviously don't know.

[Anonymous No.13202329]

>>13202321
Mussolini and Hitler are both burning in hell, and all those who venerate them will follow.

[Anonymous No.13202336]

>>13202329
I will no longer answer to you since you provided no evidence to back your accusations.

Here's a painting by Adolf Hitler.
Have a good day.

[Anonymous No.13202345]

>>13202336
Hitler was a terrible painter; but you should know this, being a man of culture.

Repent.

[Anonymous No.13202356]

>>13202345

[Anonymous No.13202372]

>>13202356
Mediocrity.

Do you deny the sainthood of Maximilian Kolbe?

[Anonymous No.13202755]

>>13202372
>Do you deny the sainthood of Maximilian Kolbe?
What is this even about, lol.
With your flawed logics, monarchy would be condemned by the Church as an intrinsically evil regime because some clerics serving the English monarchy condemned Joan of Arc to be burnt.

[Anonymous No.13202916]

>>13202091
Based Kreeftposter

[Anonymous No.13202976]

>>13201859
>Why, yes, mye fellowe man, I uerily do belieuee that monarchie and the Constitutional Righte of Kings shall henceforthe remedee all which whomst'd've bvried our Great Nation's traditiones without proper rites and successiue processe.

[Anonymous No.13204298]

>>13202755
What orthogonal logic is this?
My point is that you are either a fool or deeply disturbed to call Hitler a "hero" of the faith.