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Anonymous Mon May 27 02:29:19 2019 No.13189796 [Reply] [Original]

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>>	Anonymous Mon May 27 02:30:05 2019 No.13189799 >>13189796 All Is Quiet on the Western Front is far superior to this Nazi trash.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 27 02:33:40 2019 No.13189810 >>13189799 no it's terrible written by a guy who barely even saw combat, total fiction >>13189796 "one guy enjoyed war so clearly war is EPIC and redpilled"

Anonymous Mon May 27 02:34:38 2019 No.13189812

>>13189796
You're no better than a basedboy.
>At the core of it, man is propelled by biological drives and functions, all of your wants, needs, and desires are illusions that arose to increase your fitness. We evolved in the context of groups and group conflict, the acquisition of technology only amplified and exacerbated the darwinian characteristics that are perennial for all living thing. As long as we're still under the pressures of natural selection, the principles of competitive exclusion and zero-sum game theory are applicable. Industrialization has only enlarged these conflicts, it didn't create them. At the very barebones minimum, conflict is MATERIALLY driven

Junger would have despised your outlook. Stop posting.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 27 02:41:38 2019 No.13189834 >/lit/ now has a deranged schizophrenic jungerfag to go with deranged schizophrenic guenonfag Somethin' about this place, I tell ya

>>	Anonymous Mon May 27 02:45:15 2019 No.13189840 File: 288 KB, 326x499, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13189796 bonus points for repelling redditors from both sides of the left right divide

>>	Anonymous Mon May 27 02:47:00 2019 No.13189847 >>13189834 The funny thing is that this guy doesn't even understand Junger. He disagrees with him, but spams this shit to try and win people over to a nationalist spirit of war. The absolute state of nationalist recruitment efforts in 2019.

>>	R Æ V S S Q A N D V S !KNDYYIIins Mon May 27 02:51:37 2019 No.13189866 File: 457 KB, 618x1000, THE FOLLY OF FAME.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13189796

>>	Anonymous Mon May 27 03:14:58 2019 No.13189933 >>13189796 based and redpilled >>13189799 >>13189810 >>13189812 >>13189834 >>13189847 >>13189866 discord trannies pls go

>>	Anonymous Mon May 27 03:21:03 2019 No.13189955 >>13189933 Your mind is poisoned by memes Take a break from this website and read a book

>>	Anonymous Mon May 27 03:27:23 2019 No.13189973 Why is this being memed so hard with an anti-anti-war message? Is America getting ready to declare war on Iran and they need to manufacture consent? Won't work, mate. Maybe on dim-witted Americans (redundant).

>>	Anonymous Mon May 27 04:27:28 2019 No.13190111 >>13189810 Remarque was wounded in combat though

>>	Anonymous Mon May 27 05:26:40 2019 No.13190297 >>13189812 >>13189847 Jünger wrote a book called "battle as inner experience" and that is very much a positive view of battle and violence in line with the futurists of Italy. Maybe you dont understand Jünger?

Anonymous Mon May 27 05:30:25 2019 No.13190307

>>13190111
Jünger was wounded 14 times and volunteered for the Stormtroop which was a near suicide mission.

>>13189973
What are you talking about? Anti-war attitudes are a very new thing in history. Only since the world wars did it become a thing widespread. Are you implying the Amerifats need to justify war lmao? They already ARE at war they just dont call it that.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 27 05:53:52 2019 No.13190369 >>13190307 >Anti-war attitudes are a very new thing in history. Only since the world wars did it become a thing widespread A youtube historian said it so it must be true

Anonymous Mon May 27 06:05:55 2019 No.13190399

>>13190307
>What are you talking about? Anti-war attitudes are a very new thing in history. Only since the world wars did it become a thing widespread. Are you implying the Amerifats need to justify war lmao? They already ARE at war they just dont call it that.

This is hilariously untrue to the point where I can't tell if it's satirical or not.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 27 06:57:52 2019 No.13190524 File: 20 KB, 306x306, 1529832605179.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13190307 >Anti-war attitudes are a very new thing in history.

Anonymous Mon May 27 11:57:28 2019 No.13191438

>>13190297
>you just don't understand him
No, you fucking loser. You're the one who doesn't understand him. What I wrote in the last two threads is very close to Junger's real thought (we admittedly have our differences). And you refused to even engage with them.
You are a biological determinist, so I don't get why you even read him. Your ideas are completely at odds and irreconcilable.
You also refuse to consider the subtlety of Junger's work, a hardness in thought which you continue here. The work you mention is not as clear cut as you are suggesting either, as it even discusses some of the virtues of pacifism. And in relation to all the violence and dead bodies, the naked facts of war, he says, 'we are tired. So tired.' You clearly do not get his subtlety, how much importance he gives to the sublime and the play of forces. You even mock such thinking.
You assume too much. And the fact that you have resorted to distorting the views of a writer you supposedly respect, just to recruit 'nationalists' on a fanfiction speed running board, proves how pathetic you are. All you have done is alienate the few people here who understand Junger and turn others off from reading him with an open mind.
You have done him a disservice. He had to endure a period of repression during the anti-German years, and your methods are not too dissimilar in their result. May as well post about the gay musical version of SoS for all the care you have for objectivity...

>>	Anonymous Mon May 27 12:05:01 2019 No.13191487 >>13190369 >>13190399 >>13190524 I notice how none of you refute his claim.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 27 12:11:09 2019 No.13191517 >>13191487 gee i don't know how about, uh, The Trojan Women from 2000+ years ago

>>	Anonymous Mon May 27 12:11:54 2019 No.13191521 >>13191487 Aristophanes triumphed anti-war messages back in the fucking BCs. Imagine being on /lit/ yet also being a complete retard who doesn't read.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 27 12:12:58 2019 No.13191525 >>13191521 I can barely imagine people on /lit/ that actually do read.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 27 12:17:56 2019 No.13191548 >>13191487 Imagine refusing to engage with people who have read him and then begging the speedrunners to debate with you... Nationalism: A Growing Movement

>>	Anonymous Mon May 27 13:43:59 2019 No.13191924 >>13189799 fpbp

>>	Anonymous Mon May 27 13:45:53 2019 No.13191932 >>13191517 >>13191521 aristophanes was a boy loving soiboy. Try again

>>	Anonymous Mon May 27 13:50:40 2019 No.13191958 >>13191932 Still more of a man than you.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 27 14:31:57 2019 No.13192192 >>13189866 great image

>>	Anonymous Mon May 27 18:15:25 2019 No.13193563 File: 9 KB, 270x350, Download.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] read it

>>	Anonymous Mon May 27 18:17:33 2019 No.13193582 >>13193563 Hitler was a soiboy himself.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 27 18:35:30 2019 No.13193710 >>13191932 >trojan women >aristophanes how embarrassing

>>	Anonymous Mon May 27 18:36:25 2019 No.13193720 >>13189799 how did you find this site?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 27 18:59:21 2019 No.13193907 >>13193720 REEEEEEEEEEE /pol/-tier summerfags GET OUT

>>	Anonymous Mon May 27 19:05:25 2019 No.13193959 >>13189834 We need Girardfag back!!

>>	Anonymous Mon May 27 19:09:40 2019 No.13193996 >>13190369 >>13190399 >>13190524 So, not a single argument. Ok.

Anonymous Mon May 27 19:13:18 2019 No.13194009

>>13191438
Anon I think you might just be really dumb and you dont realise it.
Jünger was very proud of the war and the experiences he had even as an old man, he was even excited at the prospect of a second world war and wrote "It's time to put the pen down and get to work."
His views on war mellowed over the years but he was still undoubtedly in favor of what he called "classical warfare". In his youth he was explicitly pro-war and pro-violence. Read "On Pain".

>>	Anonymous Mon May 27 19:14:00 2019 No.13194015 >>13189973 It's a couple edgelords from a board I won't reveal. They're trying to use it to push nationalism, but that's not even what Junger was about. If at all, only a very short period and for very different reasons what these posters claim.

Anonymous Mon May 27 19:21:38 2019 No.13194058

>>13194009
Did I say anything countering those claims? What I am saying is that those things were not primary, he was a deeper and much more subtle thinker than 'war good'.
And what you are saying is completely false. In WWII people were not enthusiastic about the war, there's even a quote from him in the last thread. I would like to see the whole quote you are referring to, but I would guess this comes down to his sense of honour and duty rather than a desire for a fight.
Call me dumb all you like, but it's meaningless when you haze no reading comprehension and have not once democstrated that you can even make a logical argument, let alone one required for this level of discussion.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 27 19:26:26 2019 No.13194079 >>13194058 An example of this, reading Tristram Shandy was more of a life event for him than the surrounding war. And, if I remember correctly, this was during some of the major battles surrounding the Spring Offensive.

Anonymous Mon May 27 19:28:56 2019 No.13194093

>>13194058
I know he was a must deeper and more subtle thinker than "war good", I have read plenty of his books, he's one of my favorite writers. But if you're trying to tell me he was anti-war I think you're missing part of your brain tissue. He was not anti-war and he was very much against pacifist attitudes which he considered weak and a product of modernity.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 27 19:30:25 2019 No.13194106 >>13194009 You should write an essay explaining how "On Pain" is primarily about war and how his ideas are close to yours >>13189812 I'll gladly read it and laugh my ass off. Keep relying on insults instead of making an argument.

Anonymous Mon May 27 19:38:29 2019 No.13194148

>>13194093
Post where I make an argument resembling anything like that.
As for the pacifism, it certainly isn't framed in a way anywhere close to what you are saying. And no doubt his position changed after the 1920s. He even makes an argument considering what would have happened if every man and woman resisted the Nazi regime with whatever guns they had.

You're creating a flattened image of Junger for your agenda. Perhaps you'll trick a few fools, but for what purpose?

Anonymous Mon May 27 20:09:57 2019 No.13194313

>>13194106
Its not primarily about war, its about the totalitarian attitudes rising across the world (aka fascism and national socialism), but if you know anything about either of those ideologies you know that war, or more importantly violence and pain, are huge aspects of it. The whole "renunciation of self interest, self-sacrifice, even death" of the Fascist doctrine is a major part of that world view. The machine like society of "human guided torpedoes".

>>	Anonymous Mon May 27 20:11:28 2019 No.13194328 >>13194148 You have autism and probably schizophrenia or some kind of severe paranoia.

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>>	Anonymous Mon May 27 21:34:39 2019 No.13194830 >>13193959 stfu dont disturb girardfags path to samadhi

>>	Anonymous Mon May 27 23:14:10 2019 No.13195329 >>13194810 >someone actually edited this

>>	Anonymous Mon May 27 23:35:43 2019 No.13195426 >>13194313 He wasn't a fascist either.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 27 23:36:45 2019 No.13195427 >>13194328 Maybe. But whatever you have is far worse.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 27 23:38:16 2019 No.13195436 >>13194810 >20,000 words of sizzling prose Ulysses BTFO

>>	Anonymous Mon May 27 23:44:51 2019 No.13195458 >>13195426 I am aware

>>	Anonymous Mon May 27 23:49:44 2019 No.13195474 >>13195458 So what the hell is your point? You want to make all of these accusations of me, but you can't even string together a single coherent point.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 28 00:13:15 2019 No.13195536 >>13195474 What the hell is YOUR point?

>>	blapck !!PuC+Y9DW8jD Tue May 28 00:23:52 2019 No.13195578 >>13189933 is there a discord for /lit/ tranners? link pls

>>	Anonymous Tue May 28 00:26:26 2019 No.13195588 >>13195536 Imagine being this stupid and new. The numbers take you through the thread chain. It's a good way to follow the discussion and retrace your steps if you get lost.

Anonymous Tue May 28 00:39:09 2019 No.13195625
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>>13189796
Get on my level PLEB! NO one understands war like Heinlein. I bet your Jünger doesn't even have any deconstructions of marxist value theory in his book.

Plus Space battles<earth battles

>>	Anonymous Tue May 28 00:41:38 2019 No.13195633 >>13195588 What is your point Explain yourself you retarded cunt Your posts are full of contradictions

>>	Anonymous Tue May 28 00:42:40 2019 No.13195635 >>13195625 I think you meant to write space battles > earth battles

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>>	Anonymous Tue May 28 00:50:57 2019 No.13195665 >>13195635 yes, kek. I'm retardede

>>	Anonymous Tue May 28 01:03:55 2019 No.13195705 >>13191932 he wasn't considering he made fun of boy lovers, for example in Lysistrata with the spartan delegation. More evidence that you are an illiterate retard.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 28 01:39:22 2019 No.13195813 >>13195633 Name one.

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