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13187600 No.13187600 [Reply] [Original]

How is God 'love'? I don't get what it means when religious writers say that. How is love the 'truth'?

>> No.13187611

>>13187600
I would let her suck the soul out of me.

>> No.13187628

Cumbrain thread.
You'll never find God or the truth because you're caught up in a lie.

>> No.13187632

>>13187600
He isnt love. That's just what passive judeo Christians want to believe. God is an all consuming fire who comes with a sword and a hatred for evil. Not this weak cuck the average kike mormon wants you to believe.

>> No.13187634

>>13187600
Well, I am a prophet, and I could give you the answers. However, the fact you posted such a lewd image means you don't deserve the answers to life. Moreover, I need a platform and at least some degree of monetary compensation for my gospel that will save this world.

>> No.13187675

Well the Bible doesn't say that God is the exact same thing as love. It says more you should love God, both things being abstract concepts.

So to me, I take that to mean "devote yourself to keeping His laws as you see fit." But I can see how that wouldn't make sense to many others.

>> No.13187693

>>13187675
1 John 4:8
He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

>> No.13187728

>>13187693
Fine, touche'
But to me they are not exactly the same thing. Btw, can you tell me which Greek word they used for 'love' in that letter?

>> No.13187748

>>13187693
Serene, tranquil picture books and chapter books are closest to Ahura Mazda within this world. They could be considered as containing traces of Ahura Mazda's sparks or light.

Disturbing, macabre horror stories are closest to the decadent darkness of Ahriman. It is like a kind of murkiness and evil that pulls you down to Ahriman's lair.

Their borders rigid, definite, and inviolable.

>> No.13187763

>>13187628
Cumbrain is a cringe meme and your cumbrain spooked kys

>> No.13187767

>>13187728
Agape

>> No.13187774

>>13187632
If he has a hatred for evil, why does he not exterminate it?

>> No.13187784

>>13187632
That's quite a regressive concept of God

>> No.13187795

are all of you 12 with such weak questions?

>> No.13187847

>>13187763
cumbrain is the best meme of 2019. you hate it because you're a porn addict

>> No.13187851

>>13187767
Thanks but you get what I'm saying right? If we are supposed to love God (Greatest Commandment) then how can they be the exact same thing? Surely that Scripture is meant to be taken allegorically, unless I'm missing something.

>> No.13187852

>>13187600
unironically read Badiou

>> No.13187910

>>13187600
Love is experiencing a tendency/inclination towards something you regard as good for you.
God being the father of reality and writer of the rules of existence, demands you to link your tendencies with his own tendency.
That is the same as giving you a moral rule set, a way of living based on what the religion considers to be good should be your way of living, so love religion, love the father, love reality, etc. God being love means that if you are genuinely inclined to care about his creation you are walking by his side, acting his will through his moral rules.

>> No.13187915

>>13187851
To love is to give. God is the giver of all things, so God is love. To love God is to give to God, to glorify Him in your thoughts and actions.

>> No.13187956

>>13187748
How is he 'love' or light?
>>13187795
Why can't you answer it?

>> No.13187962

>>13187910
How is that love?

>> No.13188017

>>13187600
Objection 1. It seems that love does not exist in God. For in God there are no passions. Now love is a passion. Therefore love is not in God.

Objection 2. Further, love, anger, sorrow and the like, are mutually divided against one another. But sorrow and anger are not attributed to God, unless by metaphor. Therefore neither is love attributed to Him.

Objection 3. Further, Dionysius says (Div. Nom. iv): "Love is a uniting and binding force." But this cannot take place in God, since He is simple. Therefore love does not exist in God.

On the contrary, It is written: "God is love" (1 John 4:16).

I answer that, We must needs assert that in God there is love: because love is the first movement of the will and of every appetitive faculty. For since the acts of the will and of every appetitive faculty tend towards good and evil, as to their proper objects: and since good is essentially and especially the object of the will and the appetite, whereas evil is only the object secondarily and indirectly, as opposed to good; it follows that the acts of the will and appetite that regard good must naturally be prior to those that regard evil; thus, for instance, joy is prior to sorrow, love to hate: because what exists of itself is always prior to that which exists through another. Again, the more universal is naturally prior to what is less so. Hence the intellect is first directed to universal truth; and in the second place to particular and special truths. Now there are certain acts of the will and appetite that regard good under some special condition, as joy and delight regard good present and possessed; whereas desire and hope regard good not as yet possessed. Love, however, regards good universally, whether possessed or not. Hence love is naturally the first act of the will and appetite; for which reason all the other appetite movements presuppose love, as their root and origin. For nobody desires anything nor rejoices in anything, except as a good that is loved: nor is anything an object of hate except as opposed to the object of love. Similarly, it is clear that sorrow, and other things like to it, must be referred to love as to their first principle. Hence, in whomsoever there is will and appetite, there must also be love: since if the first is wanting, all that follows is also wanting. Now it has been shown that will is in God (I:19:1, and hence we must attribute love to Him.

>> No.13188216

>>13187852
>reading Maoists
>ever

>> No.13188249

>>13187847
I don't masturbate, the meme is just cringe its like a shitty propoganda piece that spreads freely and easily through the thousands of brainlets on this site. Sure, don't masturbate, but don't create some cringe wojak to guilt people into abstinence.

>> No.13188295

>>13187600
Why is her tongue so flat

>> No.13188301

>>13188295
Evolution: it wraps better around cocks.

>> No.13188304

>>13187600
Is she inviting us to cum on her bubble gum tongue?

>> No.13188330

>>13188301
Ah, yes of course.

>> No.13188344

>>13187632
>Judeo-Christians
t. retard

>> No.13188588
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>>13187600

love means cooperation, humans that evolved to cooperate killed off humans that couldn't work together. hatred brings division and strife.

forgiveness doesn't mean to be a little bitch, but at the same time you can't be fucking someone up for some petty shit they did to you ten years ago.
In ancient times there were blood feuds and family feuds, ancient grudges that kept the world stuck in the dark ages. A never ending cycle of revenge.

A god of excessive judgement and guilt might have kept order in ancient times when everyone was goat and sheep herders, but as civilization progressed and cities were built up, people lived in closer and closer quarters and had to learn to get along and cooperate.

With the destruction of the priesthood and temple by the Romans, the religion lost ultimate power over the state and the government.....

This is why Catholicism brought about the Dark Ages, because once again a religion gained ultimate state power. In a similar way to the Jews, the Catholics took money from the population, whereas the Jews took money and also animal sacrifices.
The reinstatement of a population of brainwashed people who gave resources to the priest class made it so that the only people who could read were the priests.

So when we think, "God is judgement, I am guilty and must monetarily compensate the church to appease his anger" The dark ages are brought about when a religion becomes a strong Theocracy. just look at how repressed many Muslim nations are.

When "God is Love" is in the peoples minds, and we are all to try and "Love your neighbor as yourself" we can cooperate with each other instead of devolving into witch-hunt dark-age bullshit where we all accuse each other of "sin"

>> No.13188606
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13188606

>>13187632
>Why, yes, I am in fact a Christian, how did you know?

>> No.13188614

>>13188301
How does that work?

>> No.13188631

>>13187632

Every Christian faith sees God as a loving pedophile.

>> No.13188686

>>13188614
Like bologna on a flagpole

>> No.13188688
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13188688

>>13188606

>> No.13188763

>>13188614
Wouldn't you like to know

>> No.13188860

>>13187748
dualism is fake and gay

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13188989

>>13188686
>Like bologna on a flagpole

>> No.13189006

>>13188860
And you are a depraved edgelord.

>> No.13189054

>>13187600
Now I have a thing for tongues. Thanks a bunch

>> No.13190115

>>13187600
Her nails are shitty. She's gotta push back her cuticles or something.

>> No.13190161

>>13188017

Those objections are categorically wrong.

>> No.13190208

>>13187600
unironically looks identical to my ex

>> No.13190272

>>13188249
yeeeeeeeeeeeikesssssssssss

>> No.13190300
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>>13187600
Lad my fiancee is Christian and most weeks I go along with her to church and trust me if I decided to hang around at the end and ask that question literally none of them would be able to give consistent answers.

Perhaps it's just the kind of church that she goes to (it's called something like non-denominational post-pentacostal, whatever that means exactly) but it all seems incredibly wishy-washy and feelgood and propagated on the 'nice doctrine' where above all else you just have to be nice, not scripture, not teaching, not faith, not theology, not deeds, not commandments, not even god really, just be nice to people. Of course god gets a lot of the credit because they constantly affirm platitudes like 'god is love' and so on, but there's absolutely no conviction of fervor to any of it and no hard theology to fall back on.

Pic related was some guy going off on the same kind of problem he sees within the church, albeit from a Christian perspective.

I've asked at church and the people there won't even condemn sin or sinners no matter how horrendous their actions. They just feel that condemnation is a big, bad scary word that doesn't fall under the category of 'nice' and so they won't do it no matter what. It's quite bewildering honestly.

>> No.13190309

>>13190300
It is seems more in line with the teachings of a 30 year old zoomer who told people to not cast the first stone and befriend prostitutes.

>> No.13190324

>>13188249
>well i dont masturbate because its bad
>stop spreading memes that tell people to stop masturbating
wow wew lad

>> No.13190334

>>13190208
I'd gladly fuck your ex.

>> No.13190341

>>13190334
I would post pics but she browses 4chan too so that's risky

>> No.13190352

>>13190300
wow jesus sounds like an asshole

>> No.13190377

>>13187600
Everything is permitted, including the rejection of love.

>> No.13190506

It's a Christian thing where they're allowed to disregard religious law. It's basically a cope

>> No.13190590
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>>13187600
“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails” 1 Corinthians 13:4-8
Love (God) does not force Himself on anyone. Those who come to Him do so in response to His love. Love (God) shows kindness to all. Love (Jesus) went about doing good to everyone without partiality. Love (Jesus) did not covet what others had, living a humble life without complaining. Love (Jesus) did not brag about who He was in the flesh, although He could have overpowered anyone He ever came in contact with. Love (God) does not demand obedience. God did not demand obedience from His Son, but rather, Jesus willingly obeyed His Father in heaven. “The world must learn that I love the Father and that I do exactly what my Father has commanded me” (John 14:31). Love (Jesus) was/is always looking out for the interests of others.

>> No.13190655

>>13187600
I need to smoochie a girl bros
what's it feel like to have wet smoochie?

>> No.13190735

>>13190655
Not as good as you imagine

>> No.13190744

>>13190655
It's not that amazing, like this guy said>>13190735
But if she gives your peepee a wet smoochie then that's fucking good shit

>> No.13190781

>>13190744
Depends
I've had some fucking awful bj's where I literally lost a boner cos it felt like my dick was being sucked on by a jellyfish
Kissing fluctuates too though, I've kissed some girls who get their disgusting smelly saliva all over your lips and face and its just a really unpleasant experience
The rare occasion i kiss someone who actually cleans their mouth properly and they dont try to deepthroat me with their tongue it can be pretty good

>> No.13190884

>>13187628
the ironing is deciduous

>> No.13190914
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13190914

>>13190590
>[love] keeps no record of wrongs

>tfw artificial intelligence can never be truly human, and the argument against seeing them as such is already made. indeed, it seems perfect love is a willful blindness to error, including moral error, and therefore forever out of machine learning's reach

>> No.13191680

>>13190300
the poster in that pic has no idea what he's talking about.

>> No.13191756

>>13187600
http://www.newadvent.org/summa/1013.htm

>> No.13191766

>>13187774
He will either exterminate it or allow it for a greater good to come of it

>>13190161
dummy, he's quoting St. Thomas. St. Thomas would raise what he considered to be the best objections and refute them

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>>13191756
>How is he 'love' or light?

>Are any names applied to God synonymous?
as seen in pic related

>> No.13191966

>>13191766
>the best objections

More like the worst objections.

>> No.13191977

>>13191966
ha ha lol burn

>> No.13192081

>>13191766
dummy, love is not a passion

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>>13188686
Ayy

>> No.13192478

>jesus is the son of god
>is also god
>jesus loves mankind
>???
>god is loving (love)

It won't make sense if you don't understand that Jesus is the key to the doorway to heaven.