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13180418 No.13180418[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

What's the difference between banning abortions and forcing pregnancy/forcing births? Most women see pregnancy as a continous state of consent rather than something that has to run its course now that it's begun.

>> No.13180441

Just don't get pregnant.

>> No.13180461

>>13180418
just use condoms, lol

>> No.13180466

>>13180441
>>13180461
That doesn't answer anything I asked

>> No.13180471

>>13180418
I'm more interested in when women will start accusing babies of rape. It's gonna happen one of these days.

>> No.13180480

>>13180471
Pretty sure the line was bypassed there into just accusing the babies of not being human or at least humans that don't deserve moral consideration. Y'know, "parasites" all that.

>> No.13180489

>>13180418

>What's the difference between banning abortions and forcing pregnancy/forcing births?

The difference is that no one is forcing her to be pregnant. They are just punishing her for ending it. It would be like saying the police are forcing people to not kill each other.

>> No.13180491
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Abortion is killing a human life the woman is directly responsible for. Whether or not she consents to not killing a life she is responsible for is irrelevant.

>> No.13180506

If anything is a blackpill about how evil and inhuman women truly are, it's how so many of them are willing to murder their own children, or at least encourage and facilitate other women doing so.

>> No.13180526

>>13180489
Geez, I'm glad someone is answering.
>It would be like saying the police are forcing people to not kill each other.
I don't think so though. They absolutely are forcing people. A more apt analogy would be being locked in a room: You enter a room willingly and someone behind you shuts and locks the door (banning abortion). Are you forced to be in the room? Of course.

It goes down to opinions. "Do you think the bodily autonomy is a more important right or do you think a right to life is a more important right."

>> No.13180528

>>13180418
>banning abortions
>forcing pregnancy/forcing births
Same thing. You would have to believe maximizing human biomass is a good in itself to hold that position. Not all potential humans are equal or worth defending.

>pregnancy as a continous state of consent rather than something that has to run its course now that it's begun.
Many people would just smash their retarded offspring and bin them without laws forcing them to do otherwise. If children are supposedly "innocent" that's naughty but that's questionable.

>> No.13180532

>>13180491
Thank you.

>> No.13180538

>>13180528
You sound like you just arrived here from another planet, anon

>> No.13180542

>>13180506
Men support abortion at the same rate and most abortions are due to pressure from the father. Just like most infanticide in antiquity was propagated by the father

>> No.13180549

>>13180526
>A more apt analogy would be being locked in a room: You enter a room willingly and someone behind you shuts and locks the door (banning abortion). Are you forced to be in the room? Of course.

You enter a room, if you decide to close the door it's likely to seal and you either wait for a few months or you have to shoot someone in the face for it to open

>> No.13180552

Imagine if mods aborted this thread
How would u feel

>> No.13180556

>>13180542
She is consenting to murdering her child as it grows in her womb. She has a far more intimate connection to that child than any other party and is far more morally culpable for choosing to murder it, regardless of circumstance.

>> No.13180557
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>>13180526
There is no such thing as bodily autonomy/sovereignty. If you refuse to pay taxes, your body is locked away.

>> No.13180561

>>13180549
There's no closing the door as abortion is always an option. Closing the door would be banning abortion.

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>>13180556
I never said otherwise, I am extremely pro life. I just objected to you using abortion as proof women are more callous then men, since mem also support and instigate abortion

>> No.13180569

>>13180561
Closing the door is not using anticonceptive methods willingly. Another thing entirely is being shoved into the room, ie rape

>> No.13180591

>>13180538
Well explain. Without abortions either a lot less sex will have to happen or the human biomass will explode. If foetuses are human why not treat them like any other. Not all humans deserve life. Everyone thinks humans that do bad things should be killed. A right to life support would be catastrophic for the globe.

>>13180556
You are claiming it just has a right to the support without giving any good reasons. If giving birth is such a moral act then why does it cause problems?

>> No.13180592

>>13180569
Why would closing the door be that? The room is pregnancy. Abortions end pregnancy. Leaving the door would be abortion.

>> No.13180593

>>13180480
The claim is that fetuses aren't persons, not that they aren't humans (they are).

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