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OH NO NO NO
STEVEN PINKER BTFO
https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/books/2018/02/unenlightened-thinking-steven-pinker-s-embarrassing-new-book-feeble-sermon

>> No.13170253

You can't BTFO someone who already been permanently BTFO.

>> No.13170259
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>>13170243
>2018/02

>> No.13170296

>>13170243
John Gray is righteous among atheists. It’s too bad he buys into such unbelievable alt-histories of the origins of Christianity.

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ass

>> No.13170348

Literally who cares

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>>13170243
Liberals are extremely desperate at this point.
All hands on deck.

>> No.13170958

Is Pinker right wing or left wing? I still can't figure it out to this day.

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>>13170958
He's NazBol

>> No.13170974

>>13170296
What exactly does he believe?


>>13170958
Neoliberal shill yes-man

>> No.13170976

>>13170321
based ass poster

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>>13170974
>using buzzwords for people you don't like
Oh how I missed you butterfly

>> No.13170998

>>13170958
Doesn't matter. He's wrong.

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>>13170980
>>buzzwords

>> No.13171022

>>13170980
Nah he's right. Pinker is an apologist for the rich and neolib order.

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>>13170980
It's an apt description. Do you take exception to any of it or are you just eager to share your halfwit memes?

>> No.13171149

>>13170974
Eisenman hypothesis. “Paul made it up” stuff that only works if you ignore huge amounts of contradictory evidence on one hand, and take absence of as evidence of absence on the other.

>> No.13171154

>>13170243
This article is old dick head

>> No.13171158

>>13171154
>1 year and a few months
>old
God, I hate zoomerfags.

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>>13171149
Okay, thanks.
But what "huge amounts of contradictory evidence" are you referring to?

>> No.13171463

>>13171208
The “teacher of righteousness” in the Dead Sea scrolls is introduced textually, and confirmed by carbon dating to be from the Maccabean period. Eisenman’s interpretation doesn’t hold water.
As for the rest of the controversy, the Paul Made It Up camp makes a positive claim based on “Jesus never x” or “Paul never x” arguments. When presented with evidence that Jesus did in fact x, the bar for what counts as evidence moves. An example is “Jesus never called himself God.” When pointed to Mark 14:61-62 and the usage of I AM, or any of Jesus’s other acts that, to any Jew, would have made him coequal with God (forgiving sins, calming storms, etc.), it means that there’s a “synoptic problem” and that Paul somehow changed the Gospels that also somehow refute him. See how it works?

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>>13171463
Excuse me, what evidence?

>> No.13171511

>>13171495
Perfect example! You’re ready to get in on the grift!

>> No.13171566

>>13170321
>tfw the best /lit/ meme is an [s4s] meme

>> No.13171601

Do people take Pinker seriously?
His Enlightenment Now was literally Correlation is Not Causation: The Book. Every couple of sentences he contradicted himself.

On nationalism
>nationalism is stupid, the idea of homogeneous countries being better is false

But not long after he talked about how trash the US is compared to the more homogeneous (gasp) countries such as Denmark, or New Zealand.

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>>13171037
>halfwit memes
Hi there!

You seem to have made a bit of a mistake in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making!

Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!

>> No.13171614

his counterargument to climate change spelling our imminent doom is that our commodities are more efficient than before

that's all you need to know about this book

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>>13171495

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
thanks

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>>13171621
NO THANK YOU

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>> No.13171987

>>13171667
Is this real?

>> No.13172361

>>13171495
>how tf is a bible real if god isnt real

>> No.13172387

>>13170243
>John Gray
That cuck? Nothing to see here.

>> No.13172502

>>13171987
no, it's not.

>> No.13172546

>>13172387
cuck?

>> No.13172548

>>13170243
At least Pinker isn't right wing scum like John Gray. He's still liberal scum though.

>> No.13172553

>>13170958
He's liberal scum.

>> No.13172684

>>13170243
Ass

>> No.13172699

>i read the work of thinkers

jajajajjajajajajajaja

>> No.13172706

ass

>> No.13172711

>>13172553
and youre just dumb ugly scum

>> No.13172739

>>13170958
This is an empty question because it depends on how you slice the pie. He is basically what in America would be a Democrat.

>> No.13172816

God I fancy a darn good fucking. Any takers?

>> No.13173284

>>13172548
commies are subhuman vermin

>> No.13173300

>>13171601
How is New Zealand homogeneous

>> No.13173334

>>13172548
John Gray was a student of Isiah Berlin. He’s a moderate, anti-perfectionist liberal. That’s right wing now?

>> No.13173457

>>13171495
Stop being intentionally obtuse.

>> No.13173498

>>13172502
Ah, thank you. I know he’s a goob, but that’s just ridiculous.

>>13172548
All capitalists and capitalist apologists are scummy

>>13173284
Said the subhuman. Go scrub cousin-mom’s back now

>>13172361
Seriously!

>>13173457
The whole thing falls apart on the slightest examination. I’m not the obtuse

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>>13172816
kek

>> No.13173578

>>13170243
Steven Pinker reminds me of White chocolate with strawberry bits

>> No.13173630

>>13173498
Hi big brain namefag.
I bet you are fat and ugly.
We see through your cope, you are the laughing stock of this board, the redditor in heart. Your shitty life someone else's fault huh? The evil capitalists did it!

Take responsibility for your life or die a pathetic loser. Best of luck.

>> No.13173727

>>13173578
Stale Perrier for me, senpai

>> No.13173816

>>13171607
So what the wise Mr. Pinker is telling us here is that tooting is a form of consent?

>> No.13173822

>>13173630
>another plug for his home board
There are several reasons for my personal standing. However, I am anti capitalist for the sake of more than just myself. Back to your bootlicking now.

>> No.13173840

>>13173822
Butterfly you have become increasingly defensive over the past few days. It is unladylike. Are you unable to handle the pressure of being on 4chan? It's okay; this is a very masculine space.

>> No.13174322

>>13170958
Classic left i.e class not race/gender

>> No.13174338

>>13170243
shouldn't it be "categorical mistake"?

>> No.13174345

fuck, guys, butterfly seems like a total fucking ass.
how do you still stand him

>> No.13174350

>>13171463
>Mark 14:61-62

He doesn't call himself God on those verses

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>>13170958
Right winger who likes to advertise himself as left of center akin to pic related.

>> No.13174495

>> No.13174548

>>13170974
>Neoliberal shill yes-man

sounds about right