/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.13167726]

CUTTING OUT THE SHIT EDITION
UPDATED CHARTS HAVE BEEN IN DIRE DEMAND FOR SOME TIME

>What are you currently reading?
>How do you feel about it?

Monthly Reading for May: There Are Doors by Gene Wolfe

Monthly Reading books: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/15ZwgDZVXB-nLqjbgcqgntZDyTddd0eqP

READ XIANXIA
READ CRADLE
READ PKD

[Anonymous No.13167735]

I know this'll sound weird but what should I read that's got interesting female characters

[Anonymous No.13167743]

FELLAS, feast your eyes on this. I have a feeling this one will be closer to book one than to book three.

[Anonymous No.13167747]

>>13167735
Malazan, asoiaf. Not shattered earth


>>13167726
great image honestly, all those chinaman stories are the exact same lol "repays etc etc, stable foundation, muh cultivation muh meridans, muh im 2nd level 3rd stage and he's 3rd level 1st stage"

[Anonymous No.13167749]

>>13167735
Sabriel gets thrown around a lot. Really, if anyone hasn't read it by now, you need to reevaluate your decision making skills.

[Anonymous No.13167751]

>>13167743

[Anonymous No.13167758]

sanderfag a hack

[Anonymous No.13167764]

>>13167726
>no edition
>no charts
>no previously
If you want new charts, make them first before removing the old ones, you utter brainlet.

[Anonymous No.13167768]

>>13167747
I like that Cradle allows for difference of strength in between small advancement gaps and doesn't portray the "enemy is my level+1 and I can't do ANYTHING" that something like Coiling Dragon seems to show.

[Anonymous No.13167776]

>PKD
I hope you mean Phillip K Dick, anon
(who else couldd PKD mean? seriously asking)

[Anonymous No.13167782]

>>13167768
waiting for an Iron to beat an Underlord through brain power

[Anonymous No.13167796]

>>13167782
We had an iron beat a gold already, don’t wish for the moon.

[Anonymous No.13167799]

>>13167782
I wonder how Sacred Valley is going to handle Lindon's oppressive Underlord dick (aura).

[Anonymous No.13167804]

>>13167799
Poison him like they did Yerins master probably.

[Anonymous No.13167823]

>>13167776
profoundly knotted (furry) dicks

[Anonymous No.13167838]

>>13167735
Traitor Baru Cormorant

[Anonymous No.13167841]

>>13167799
Probably freak the fuck out and assume he's some kind of evil demon/god masquerading as their shitty Unsouled Lindon.
Mind you, how much do the Sacred Valley plebs know about what happened in the school that Yerin and Lindon fled from? I know they think Yerin fled with some stranger from that bit with Ling-a-ding's sister, but what do they think about Lindon?
Also, the big one; do you think the rumoured curse that protects Sacred Valley real, or just horseshit?

[Anonymous No.13167851]

>>13167841
atleast lindons family will know the story because turtlegramps is actually in sacred valley by the end of the latest novel and runs into his sister.

[Anonymous No.13167852]

>>13167841
If you reread the blurb at the end of Unsouled, the whole school marches down the mountain and dismantled the Wei Clan, because Lindon “betrayed” them.

[Anonymous No.13167862]

>>13167852
Right, I'm a mouthbreathing retard with the memory of a goldfish, thanks for the reminder, anon.

[Anonymous No.13167865]

>>13167726
Should I read the stormlight archive?

[Anonymous No.13167869]

>>13167865
no
read black company instead
far less retardation

[Anonymous No.13167874]

>>13167851
captcha ate my pic

[Anonymous No.13167885]

>>13167851
>>13167874
yeah, that's what I meant by "the bit with [Lindon's] sister
considering how dull House of Blades was, Cradle's impressive

[Anonymous No.13167894]

>>13167726
Posting this here so we can find it easily when your little tantrum is over.

CUTTING OUT THE SHIT EDITION
UPDATED CHARTS HAVE BEEN IN DIRE DEMAND FOR SOME TIME

>What are you currently reading?
>How do you feel about it?

Monthly Reading for May: There Are Doors by Gene Wolfe

Monthly Reading books: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/15ZwgDZVXB-nLqjbgcqgntZDyTddd0eqP

Fantasy:
https://imgoat.com/uploads/0935e4cd59/105363.jpg
https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21328.jpg
Flowchart:
https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21327.jpg

Science Fiction:
https://imgoat.com/uploads/def184ad8f/124507.jpg
https://imgoat.com/uploads/b44928ae11/114401.jpg
General:
https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21332.jpg
https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21330.jpg

NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21333.jpg

SF&F author listing with ratings and summaries:
http://greatsfandf.com/authors-full-list.php


Previously:
>>13155700
>>13148735
>>13139243
>>13123969
>>13112090
>>13097840
>>13086919

[Anonymous No.13167900]

>>13167884
yeah, Gardens of the Moon is rough, but it's an autist filter (variant of the pleb filter). Make it through it, and it opens up

[Anonymous No.13167907]

Is Malazan even worth reading?
I tried the first book and didn't even end it.
Should I actually put some effort in it?
I don't want to start a big story for it to be shit

Also, I read the first 3 books of Black Company and enjoyed them. Are they worth to continue? Do they get better?

[Anonymous No.13167915]

>>13167900
>but it's an autist filter
Not him, but how exactly?
Are you sure it is not a non-autist filter?
Because I am quite the autist and never got the gardens of the moon is bad (or a bad introduction) meme.

[Anonymous No.13167955]

>>13167907
If you are willing to invest a bit of time into Malazan at least read up to the end of book 2 (or even 3) and decide after that.

[Anonymous No.13167957]

for next thread

Monthly Reading for May: There Are Doors by Gene Wolfe

Monthly Reading Books https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/15ZwgDZVXB-nLqjbgcqgntZDyTddd0eqP

Fantasy:
https://imgoat.com/uploads/0935e4cd59/105363.jpg
https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21328.jpg
Flowchart:
https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21327.jpg

Science Fiction:
https://imgoat.com/uploads/def184ad8f/124507.jpg
https://imgoat.com/uploads/b44928ae11/114401.jpg
General:
https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21332.jpg
https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21330.jpg

NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21333.jpg

SF&F author listing with ratings and summaries:
http://greatsfandf.com/authors-full-list.php


Previously:
>>13155700
>>13148735
>>13139243
>>13123969
>>13112090
>>13097840

[Anonymous No.13167958]

>>13167907
>Black Cumpenny
they're good, but I wouldn't say they get better, as such. There's just more people and stuff, so there's more shit that's happening, whhich means more metaphorical balls being juggled, which is increasingly more satisfying... but when a ball drops, it hurts more.
There's some fucking amazing books in there (Dreams of Steel, Soldiers Live), and some utter shit (SIlver Spike, which is skippable). I'm not much of a fan of She is the Darkness, but the one that most people are faintly disappointed by is Water Sleeps. In any case, every book post-3 takes place in not-India, which you may find interesting or not.
I recommend it for all the nice stuff, but if you're gonnna stop, now's the time

[Anonymous No.13167961]

>>13167900
>>13167907


the first 200 pages are pleb filter, after that you should enjoy but you need to pay attention in a way most fantasy book don't require, the obvious POV gets dropped from the story fast, everyone has about 3 names and it drops you right into the middle of the action in a war with several sides and doesn't spoonfeed anything

[Anonymous No.13167965]

>>13167957
fuck theres already one
my bad

[Anonymous No.13167966]

>>13167955
honestly if you aren't fairly interested by the end of book 1 and sold after half of book 2 it's not for you

[Anonymous No.13167998]

[Anonymous No.13168003]

>>13167966
Yeah guess you are right. The middle of book 2 should by far be enough to make your decision.

I mean, as Erikson himself states, gardens of the moon has the unavoidable flaw of dropping you into the middle of a continuous story and you just have to push through it without getting everything.

[Anonymous No.13168004]

How is Kingdoms of Thorn and Bone?

[Anonymous No.13168005]

>tfw the thread have turned into epic fantasy general
Get over your GoT withdrawal you troglodytes.

[Anonymous No.13168011]

>>13168005
post something you wanna talk about, then?
also
>watching GoT after season 4

[Anonymous No.13168034]

>>13167749
I've never read it, what's good about it?

[Anonymous No.13168036]

>>13168034
>>13168034
interesting female characters....?

[Anonymous No.13168046]

>watching GoT

[Anonymous No.13168087]

>>13168034
>chaotic, dangerous semi-evil, magic of change and unlife vs ordered, dangerous magic of death and control via invoking gods through bells/pipes
>big wall seperating the fantasy world's modern not-England from the magical, medieval lands - magic and post-medieval tech stop working on their respective sides of the wall
>female protags that aren't badly written
>not shit and not really YA despite being labelled as such

[Anonymous No.13168093]

>>13168087
>no comma between "dangerous" and "semi-evil"
I hate myself

[Anonymous No.13168138]

>>13167726
anyone read Alastair Reynolds here? Opinions?

[Anonymous No.13168147]

>>13168087
Thanks for the explanation, going to try it.

[Anonymous No.13168155]

>>13168004
Pretty ok if you can handle the snotty princess PoV. Knight is a good character and has the best arc in the first book. Scholasticate boy has a good arc only to get shit on.

Still a pretty solid series, even if the ending is kind of a rushed mess.

[Anonymous No.13168234]

OK, let's work on a new recommendation chart.
Pic related is my take on what should be on it.

[Anonymous No.13168248]

What is the worst fantasy novel you've ever read? For me it's pic related.

[Anonymous No.13168267]

>>13168234

[Anonymous No.13168308]

Any recent short story recommendations? I read Hell Is the Absence of God recently and liked it and I'd like to read some more.

[Anonymous No.13168334]

>>13168234
I wouldn't put Peace in there because Peace is more "magical realism" than fantasy. Someone looking for fantasy recommendations probably isn't looking for Peace.

[Anonymous No.13168351]

>>13168234
Selected fantasy is the most recently, and honestly best, chart. If you feel like reworking one do the general fantasy.

[Anonymous No.13168363]

>>13168234
Why do we even need new charts? The old ones are fine for the most part, except for that one chart that has Brent Weeks. They cover most of the big works.
What we could do is make new charts for things like self published books, web serials and chinkshit.

[Anonymous No.13168377]

>>13167957
Why doesn't my browser like these links?

[Anonymous No.13168390]

>>13168377
Security certificate of the host site expired. I'll change the image host next thread. You can still force it through in your browser, look around for the proceed anyway button.

[Anonymous No.13168413]

Please recommend a decent epub and mobi reader for pc.

[Anonymous No.13168417]

>>13168413
Calibre, you don't need anything else for your reading needs on pc.

[Anonymous No.13168433]

>>13168234
What's good about Tigana?

[Anonymous No.13168449]

>>13168417
>>13168413
It should be extremely telling that there are only a few e-readers for PC. Nobody even bothers to compete with Calibre.
Calibre is all you need and has all you need.

[Anonymous No.13168470]

>>13168363
The NPR chart is not really representative for this general desu.

[Anonymous No.13168497]

>>13168449
>>13168417
Thank you, much appreciated

[Anonymous No.13168513]

Rec fantasy books with an edgy protagonist. I already know of Broken Empire.

[Anonymous No.13168690]

>>13168433
Not that anon but I liked Tigana a lot.

It has stellar prose, some of the best you'll come across and every page is a treat. Ngl, at its core Tigana is a very emo book and deals heavily in themes of love, loss and sacrifice.

The premise; the plot of the book revolves around a group of people from the city of Tigana on a quest to overthrow two wizard kings that have invaded and taken control of their land. One of these wizards puts a curse on the city of Tigana because their armies killed his son in the original invasion. The curse makes it so that the name Tigana is wiped out of existence. Everybody in the land except for natives of Tigana simply forget the name and can't hear the word when it's spoken. In essence the people of Tigana lose their identity and the book is about the group of people trying to put an end to that curse.

Oh and it also has the best incest couple of all time.

As for cons, it's high fantasy and a standalone book so understandably GGK doesn't dwell too long on developing the world, so it all feels a bit 2d as a result. There's also a bit too much sex, I don't mind sex but some of it is just really out of place and doesn't really advance the plot in any meaningful anyway. The writer could have used a wank before writing some of the chapters.

Solid 8.5/10 book, would recommend.

[Anonymous No.13168695]

>>13167865
Just play Monster Hunter instead

[Anonymous No.13168782]

>>13167907
>Is Malazan even worth reading?
Only if you have a fat fetish

[Anonymous No.13168784]

>>13168690
Thanks for the info.

Going to order it and give it a go.

[Anonymous No.13168790]

>>13168513
Night Angel Trilogy. You never said it had to be good.

[Anonymous No.13168841]

>>13168690
I fapped to the closet sex.

[Anonymous No.13168892]

>>13168782
I want to KISS Tattersail

[Anonymous No.13168926]

>>13168513
Book of the New Sun

[Anonymous No.13168928]

>>13168363
They're mostly repetitions of each other and many books on any chart don't get discussed at all whatsoever.
New charts don't help either when you have inbreds like the dude running the Amazon chart who will only add books he's personally read and ignore everything else. May as well make individual Geocities sites to host our TOTALLY OBJECTIVE BOOK PREFERENCES

[Anonymous No.13169136]

>>13167804
Not with his body cultivation technique. Ethan had him get bitten for a reason.

[Anonymous No.13169149]

>>13168449
>there are only a few e-readers for PC.
Doesn't pretty much any PDF-Reader Work as well? Even fucking edge *can* do it, although it is absolute shit.

I also would guess that Calibre is just a frontend to one of these PDF-Readers (or some HTML renderer), of course plus a million useful features like library managing etc. but if you just care about viewing there are certainly many alternatives.

[Anonymous No.13169199]

>>13168234
I know you are trying to bait me bean-plant-open-mouth.jpg anon, but I will not take it.

[Anonymous No.13169211]

>>13168928
>New charts don't help either when you have inbreds like the dude running the Amazon chart who will only add books he's personally read and ignore everything else
You make a chart then, I put the time in to recommend books I personally read, why would I add books you read? It takes about an hour or two to put together a decent chart, go ahead and stop being lazy.

[Anonymous No.13169297]

>>13167726
Just got snow crash, what I am in for?

I picked that book due to being only one, can someone recommend me another good one of fantasy book? Its get kind of expensve with all these trilogies, just picked black company and mistborn so I want something short and sweet.

[Anonymous No.13169318]

>>13167768
I doubt you actually read any chinkshit since chinkshit characters fight above their level all the time

[Anonymous No.13169323]

so i got a big itch to read some fantasy and scifi

one of the biggest universes i want to get into is warhammer, both fantasy and 40k. i have a pretty good grasp on the fantasy lore but not so much on 40k. what are some decent books to get an introduction?


i also want to read lovecraft as i never read any of his stuff, where would you say i should start and what books(if any) where y'alls personal favorites?

also are any of Tolkien's stuff outside of LotR worth reading?

[Anonymous No.13169333]

>>13169136
He had him bitten because that body was best for healing the damage done by blackflame. I doubt poison was even on his mind

[Anonymous No.13169347]

>>13169323
Regarding Lovecraft, The Shadow Over Innsmouth is probably his best work. Not sure if you should start with it however, some of his other works come close but most are quite mediocre in comparison.

[Anonymous No.13169348]

The Vorrh is bloody good anons, just finished.

[Anonymous No.13169396]

>>13167743
:o
Is that real?

[Anonymous No.13169415]

>>13169323
Lovecraft doesn't have any novel-length books, all books are collections, you can find his individual stories online.

Children of Hurin is a good Tolkien story.

[Anonymous No.13169423]

if i want to read wheel of time series what book do i start with?
from the two rivers, or the eye of the world

[Anonymous No.13169500]

Recommend Android epub readers. Nothing I can find has interface as comfy as F-Droid's Cool Reader. The issue is that it's shit at rendering soft breaks.

[Anonymous No.13169514]

>>13169500
ReadEra is pretty good.
Lithium is a minimalistic one but only works with epubs.
Both feature zero ads.

[Anonymous No.13169518]

>>13169423
Eye of the World is the first book. From the Two Rivers and Into the Blight are just Eye of the World chopped into two pieces.

[Anonymous No.13169533]

Anybody else read this? Liked it a lot.

[Anonymous No.13169564]

>>13169500
Forgot some shit:
>left side swipe brightness
>small stylish page and battery AND pics (sometimes reading LNs in public) indicator
>no animations at all
>both press and swipe to change pages
>remembers book when you exit it by hitting back (fucking koreader)
>ability to go from blank line to indent paragraph indicator
Last one could be substituted by easy to use Android e-book converter that can handle paragraph styles.

[Anonymous No.13169631]

>>13169323
>What are some decent books to get an introduction?
Gaunt's Ghost and Eisenhorn by Dan Abnett

[Anonymous No.13169648]

>>13169500
>e-readers
just imagine doing this in real life

[Anonymous No.13169702]

>>13169533
No but it looks interesting.

[Anonymous No.13169789]

>>13169648
Memes have destroyed your worldview, seek help

[Anonymous No.13169891]

>>13169297
Mistborn and snowcrash are shit. Sanderson is shit.

[Anonymous No.13169981]

>>13169891
And yet he is and forever will be more successful in life and financially than you.

But at least you have the comfort of thinking you are a superior writer (if you'd actually written something).

[Anonymous No.13169989]

>>13169789
Some are beyond help, I'm afraid.
He probably greentexts outside of 4chan too.

[Anonymous No.13170047]

>>13169981
>not liking something is always the result of an unfavorable personal comparison

[Anonymous No.13170048]

>>13169981
Have sex

[Anonymous No.13170063]

>>13169648
>imagine doing this
Actually reading books? The horror.

[Anonymous No.13170103]

What was your favorite book you have read while influenced by drugs?

[Anonymous No.13170238]

>>13169333
Who knows. The guy plays 5D Chess.

[Anonymous No.13170294]

>>13169333
Considering Lindon mentions how useful it is for expelling poison damn near every time that ability gets used, I'm sure Eithan knew just how helpful it would be.

[Anonymous No.13170352]

>>13169891
The recommend something with thieves, thats why I got mistborn.

[Anonymous No.13170374]

>>13168513
God damn I love jorgy boy.

[Anonymous No.13170385]

>>13167735
wheel of time cast is ~50% female at least, some real bitches and retards too so its not all 'women are wonderful'. also a 2nd vote for Malazan its great

[Anonymous No.13170393]

Book of the ancestors is some real shit niggas.

[Anonymous No.13170409]

>>13169136
>>13170238
>>13170294
You brainlets do realize there's literally a POV chapter of Eithan noticing Lindon and Yerin for the first time right?
It's clear he doesn't know shit about Lindon, where he is from, the Sage being poisoned or Sacred Valley and its truths which is a Monarch level secret and I'm not even sure all the Monarchs know.
And it's very likely it wasn't even the poison that killed the Sage. No poison Irons came up with would even harm a single hair on an Underlord, much less a Sage. Whatever happened to the Sage is heavily linked with what is under Sacred Valley, which is most likely a Dread god tomb.
Everything he did to improve Lindon's body was to create the perfect Blackflame weapon and for no other reason.

[Anonymous No.13170442]

>>13169297
Warbreaker. snow crash is interesting, over the top nerd pulp before nerds became numales

[Anonymous No.13170454]

>>13170103
neuromancer

[Anonymous No.13170485]

>>13169891
have sex

[Anonymous No.13170491]

>>13167735
Read Bakker

[Anonymous No.13170495]

>>13170352
Lies of Locke Lamora is the ultimate heist fantasy. Book 1 is good, book 2 is so so, read it you like casinos and pirates but avoid book 3 like the plague.

[Anonymous No.13170503]

>>13170409
Yes but I am sure Eithan was aware of the Bloodforged Iron body's poison-resistive properties.

[Anonymous No.13170508]

>>13170495
I've only read the first myself and just never got around to the others. What exactly happened with them?

[Anonymous No.13170542]

>>13170409
The thing under sacred valley is some labyrinth not a dreadgod tomb. There is also one in the Jai clan territory that their patriarch stole from so that's not what causes sacred valley to be baby tier. They may have gotten some strong poison from it because the labyrinths are full of strong artifacts.

[Anonymous No.13170553]

>>13167743
He should have kept it a one off. The 2nd and 3rd simply didn't hold up to the first.

[Anonymous No.13170560]

>>13167743
>gentleman bastard sequence
what an awful name for a series

[Anonymous No.13170703]

>>13170542
It is a labyrinth and possibly also a dread god tomb/prison. Albeit that's just a theory atm.

What is confirmed is that Sacred Valley is the "home" of the 4 known dread gods. (See: Li Markuth asking if they came home in book 1) and then there's a reference in Skysworn about one of the 4 dreadgods, something along the lines of "it's biding its time, waiting to sense its lost brother again". Could be referring to one of the other 4 dread gods but I doubt it
.
As for being just another labyrinth, why is it protected to the extent the others are not? There are other labyrinth's like you said but none of them have Sacred Valley level of protection to the extent nobody over Jade lives anywhere close to it and the one guy that does go close dies mysteriously. It's also said that "powerful people" want Sacred Valley to remain the way it is for reasons.

[Anonymous No.13170968]

>time to write a story
>what should I add?
>harems and graphic sex of course!

[Anonymous No.13171010]

>>13170385
>tfw no chubby tattersail gf

[Anonymous No.13171058]

>>13171010
Adjunct Lorn for me

[Anonymous No.13171070]

hey /sffg/. or at the very least that one anon who always recognizes me. I've been gone and off my writing schedule for the past week because I'm looking for a new job. Anything happen in the last week?

[XXXPUSSYLICKER No.13171146]

>>13170560
>Anonymous
what an awful name for a 4chan user

[Anonymous No.13171168]

>>13171070
I recognize you too cook anon! Although I haven't kept up with your posts in months but I did ask if you were still around once. Give me an update, how's your story looking, I remember you were chopping and changing it a lot.

You haven't missed much around here desu, just a lot of heartbroken GoT newfags coming in asking dumb questions for the past week or so along with the general increase in casuals we get every summer.

In other news, as you can see in the OP, the litrpg/chinkshit brigade is upset their trash isn't included in the charts linked in the OP so they're throwing a fit.

[Anonymous No.13171173]

>>13171146
it is though

[Anonymous No.13171213]

>>13170508
I haven't either but I think the chick Locke pines over shows up in the 3rd book. She's probably terrible.

[Anonymous No.13171257]

Just finished the Alera Codex, looking for something light and fun like Riyria to read. Any suggestions?

[Anonymous No.13171280]

>>13171168
Oh hey anon, most of the important parts of the story are nailed down and I'm about 25k words in, but I'm going to have to re-write all of it once I get to the end. For some reason, all the character interactions are coming out really badly, but when I try doing short stories with the characters it all comes out on-point. I can't tell whether it's a psychological thing for me or whether the setting just isn't right for these characters. I'm more worried it's the latter, because it took me three years to get to a point where I had a plot

Too bad for the GoT fans. I don't watch the show but I'm a little upset how they ended it too. Knowing what I do about it, I thought for sure they'd beat the white walkers only for every single one of them to die playing politics, since the whole point is humans suck.

I can't say much for the weeb stuff. But I don't see why The Three Body Problem can't be on there. I thought people here agreed that it was good

[Anonymous No.13171306]

>>13171257
Name of the Wind
Twilight
Eragon
Night Angel
Mistborn
Malazan

Just choose any one, they're all excellently suited to your tastes.

[Anonymous No.13171310]

>>13171306
Already read Mistborn and it sold me on Sanderson. Thanks for the tips anon. I appreciate it!

[Anonymous No.13171317]

>>13171306
>>13171310
Who is trolling who?

[Anonymous No.13171320]

>>13170703
Yea I totally forgot about markuth saying that. The passage you are referring to at the end of skysworn is also confusing because it says brother instead of brothers so maybe there is a fifth dreadgod or the phoenix is related to one of the dreadgods somehow. The only one whose location we don't know is the silent king. The dragon is in the atmosphere and the titan is at the bottom of the ocean

[Anonymous No.13171329]

Is the forever war sequel worth reading

[Anonymous No.13171332]

>>13171329
fug no

[Anonymous No.13171379]

How are you supposed to pronounce "Kruppe"?

[Anonymous No.13171402]

>>13171379
Krup

[Anonymous No.13171405]

>>13171310
Awesome, read all his Cosmere books, they're great fun!

>>13171317
What do you mean trolling? I genuinely like those books :(
Kingkiller Chronicle is the best series and Kvothe is the best character ever written imo. Denna is such a sweetheart too. In fact I love the books so much I've reread them 16 times waiting for book 3 which is being worked on right now. Patrick just gave us an update a month ago. Fingers crossed it will be out within a year, I can't wait.
Btw, does this sub have a discord? Would love to talk with other Kingkiller fans about my theories.
Pic related, my signed copy.

[Anonymous No.13171412]

>>13171379
k-roop-pay

[Anonymous No.13171416]

>>13171405
>What do you mean trolling? I genuinely like those books :(
>Kingkiller Chronicle is the best series and Kvothe is the best character ever written imo. Denna is such a sweetheart too. In fact I love the books so much I've reread them 16 times waiting for book 3 which is being worked on right now. Patrick just gave us an update a month ago. Fingers crossed it will be out within a year, I can't wait.
>Btw, does this sub have a discord? Would love to talk with other Kingkiller fans about my theories.
>Pic related, my signed copy.
youre trying to hard to troll, its becoming obvious

[Anonymous No.13171438]

>>13171416
If he's trolling, then do you have a recommendation for something like Riyria or Alera? He already mentioned Mistborn which sort of fits with what I was asking for but I've already read that.

[Anonymous No.13171443]

>>13171010
Wtf i love Malazan now?!!

[Anonymous No.13171449]

>>13171416
You got me, I went out, met Pat at a convention had a nice conversation with him and got my book signed all for the sake of "trolling" someone on the internet years down the line.

Why do you keep saying trolling as though it's a bad book anyway, what do you read man, why don't you share the books you like, we'll see if YOU'RE trolling.

[Anonymous No.13171456]

>>13171405
Stop trying so hard. It was already obviously in the first troll post. Now it's just pathetic.

[Anonymous No.13171471]

>>13171449
I appreciated the recommendations. I only drop in this thread when I'm looking for something new to read. I usually get some good tips and have some good reads. The sad thing is that I usually get yelled at for liking one series or another by someone when I do it. For instance, I actually liked the Lightbringer books and came here for new reads when I got to the end of the series. Apparently that isn't a /lit/ approved book.

[Anonymous No.13171496]

>>13171438
i havnt read kingkiller
twilight is teen romance trash
eragon is basically YA star wars meets LOTR with dragons
i havnt read night angel but it sounds kinda fun
mistborn is alright even though it is YA
malazan is great but not anything like alera codex or riyria

[Anonymous No.13171506]

>>13171496
Oh, that Twilight. I didn't put it together.

[Anonymous No.13171612]

>>13170495
book 2 was only good because burnt face waifu, imo
I feel for the book 3 meme, that shit was sad

[Anonymous No.13171629]

Goodreads review of GoK:

*Women* - Where were they? For 400 pages we had one "main" female character, who ended up being treated way too much like a secondary character. The rest of the women were minor characters. And the main female character spent most of her story arc picking herbs, getting pregnant, having babies, encouraging her husband to take a second wife, and then becoming stereotypically jealous of the new woman in her man's life.
We were given one token female warrior character in the latter half of the book who fought in battles alongside the men, but she was hardly an interesting and complex character and she arrived too little too late for me. In all honesty, the ratio of male to female characters in this book is kind of laughable.

*Plot* - ambitious, but ultimately lost in a mass of world building and histories and mythology. World building should enhance and complement plot and characters, but this seemed to bury them under its massive weight. If as much care and planning and dimension were put into the characters as was put into this world, then we might have had something really interesting.

*Characters* - Wooden, predictable, stereotypical, cliched. There really wasn't a single character I felt a connection to.

*Dialogue* - Problematic. At times the dialogue felt appropriate, other times it felt way too modern. I don't mind one style over the other, just have continuity.

*Will I Read On?* - No. I love the influence of ancient Chinese dynasties in this novel, and I might could overlook most of the points that I made, but the representation of women and how little they featured in this book doesn't inspire me to continue the series. And though the end of book one has set up a storyline where a few of the female characters may feature more prominently, it looks like the storyline will focus on jealousy and envy between the two wives of the main character - and I feel I can easily find more complex and better representations of women elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.13171637]

>>13171629
That's Grace of Kings, by Ken Liu (damn you, 2k character limit).
It's the most popular review. So, how is Grace of Kings? I checked out it's Goodreads page due to the new chart and it seems interesting.

[Anonymous No.13171646]

>>13171637
It's good. The review is dead wrong. Just don't expect book 3

[Anonymous No.13171647]

>>13171637
Sounds like it could be worse. It could be a braid tugging dress smoothing estrogen fest like half of the Wheel of Time books.

[Anonymous No.13171694]

Rec some sci-fi and or fantasy books that take place in modern times (20th and 21st century)

ignore pic on phone

[Anonymous No.13171704]

>>13171070
Same old shit posting flavours anon. Nothing of note happened.

[Anonymous No.13171712]

>>13171280
When he says chink stuff, flavours anon, he is talking about pill popping webserials with cultivation.

[Anonymous No.13171731]

>>13171694
urban fantasy, the whole genre is pretty much an eternal wankfest over "muh magickkk in modern times"
it's mostly terrible, sadly

[Anonymous No.13171740]

>>13171471
>>13171257
Here anon. I'm thinking of making a good self published chart sometime in the future. There are some great books there.

[Anonymous No.13171741]

>>13171694
Piers Anthony Incarnations of Immortality was pretty good.

[Anonymous No.13171752]

>>13171740
A lot of good books on that chart. Not a big fan of Zelazny, but it fits.

[Anonymous No.13171759]

>>13171637
>>13171629
Grace of kings is shit. It's Greek Gods that the Chinese counterfeited.

[Anonymous No.13171766]

>>13171694
Tinker by Wen Spencer. Ignore the shitty cover.

[Anonymous No.13171784]

>>13171405
Beat it nigger

[Anonymous No.13171796]

>>13170553
He’s planning 7. I think he could turn it around

[Anonymous No.13171822]

>>13171766
Are you memeing, or serious? I thought it was pretty bad, desu

[Anonymous No.13171826]

>>13171740
You're not the Amazon self published chart anon are you?
This chart seems fine for the most part other than Fimbulwinter and Nightlord. I think that Elliot Kay book is harem too but whatever I liked his one series that isn't harem trash, he's a good writer.
I was going to make a self published chart but you're welcome to make it. I made a long ass post with a bunch of self published shit that I've posted here a few times, I'll paste it once I find it again, you can use it as a resource if you want to.

[Anonymous No.13171928]

>>13169500
PocketBook

[Anonymous No.13171950]

>>13171796
>planning 7 books
>has written 3 in 13 years

[Anonymous No.13171968]

What is the edgiest fantasy novel you've read?

[Anonymous No.13172002]

>>13171968
harry potter

[Anonymous No.13172042]

>>13171968
A land fit for heroes

[Anonymous No.13172066]

Recently finished The King of Elfland's Daughter, really enjoyed it. What are other books that describe beautiful/surreal places in detail?

[Anonymous No.13172069]

>>13171968
Captain Underpants

[Anonymous No.13172077]

Does anybody else here have a certain nostalgia for the Redwall series? I'm thinking about rereading them again.

[Anonymous No.13172092]

>>13172077
Never read them when I was little, would an adult reading them for the first time find them too childish/silly?

[Anonymous No.13172149]

>>13172092
No. These books are perfect really for anybody whose into some good ol adventure.

[Anonymous No.13172172]

>>13172077
I loved Salamandastron and Redwall but I never bothered to read any of the others.

[Anonymous No.13172207]

>>13172149
I do like me some adventure, might as well check out the first one at least.

[Anonymous No.13172233]

>>13172066
Check out Dunsany's other books.

Lovecraft wrote some stories referred to as the "Dream Cycle" directly inspired by Dunsany that are probably exactly what you're looking for.

Jack Vance was also probably influenced Dunsany, though he has a more modern sensibility.

[Anonymous No.13172303]

>>13172233
Thanks for the suggestions m8, haven't read much Lovecraft to be honest but the Dream Cycle sounds really interesting, and yeah, I guess if I enjoyed Dunsany then the logical thing would be to read more Dunsany.

[Anonymous No.13172304]

>>13170103
BotNS

[Anonymous No.13172329]

>>13171968
Recently black leopard, red wolf.

[Anonymous No.13172380]

>>13171968
Prince of thorns

[Anonymous No.13172540]

>>13167726
>Frank Herbert's Dune novels
>C.S. Lewis's Space Trilogy
>Hyperion series
>Foundation Series

Of these four, which one has better story, prose, and characters

[Anonymous No.13172644]

What standard stuff do you dislike about fantasy and/or sci fi, /sffg/?

[Anonymous No.13172653]

>>13172644
Words.

[Anonymous No.13172657]

>>13172644
The need to group billions of people by extremely specific traits just because they live on the same planet. It feels like a lot of SF authors can't into scaling accurately.

[Anonymous No.13172673]

>>13172644
Ancient evils.

[Anonymous No.13172688]

hey guys, I'm reading Paradise Lost and it's fucking badass, are there any modern books that take it as an inspiration? Preferably something without angels or demons, since they basically act like humans, and the subject is very human - civil war, revenge, corruption. Yeah ok there's some superpowered shit like zooming through and outside the universe, but that's why I'm posting in /sffg/.

So far I've found His Dark Materials, which takes the story and does its own shit with it, but that's a YA book.

[Anonymous No.13172703]

Finished this. Interesting enough, kind of drags a little in the middle, but not too much. Manages to have characters with relatively high power levels, yet make them limited enough that they don't open plotholes. Noticeably short on needless edge which I liked.
Kind of like something written by Sanderson, except less sterile.

[Anonymous No.13172710]

Should i read dune or book of the new sun first?

[Anonymous No.13172715]

>>13167726
Since OP is posting xianxia, I may as well inform them that Chinese internet novels will inevitably degrade due to CCP censorship:
>>13172707

[Anonymous No.13172727]

>>13172644
Prologues that take ages to come back into play. 1000 pages filled with padding.

[Anonymous No.13172798]

>>13172715

might be the best time to ask. i was reading a great novel by the name of way of choices.
it was completely translated but suddenly completely nuked of the website it was hosted on.
http://gravitytales.com/novel/way-of-choices
anyone know if there is a backup? the first 3 arcs are in book-from on amazon but those have been there for a while.
sometime two months ago the story was just removed from their site. ironically its 404 but the reference to the story is still in their navigation and there have been no announcements about it nor are there any posts on their forum. i was like 240 chapters in and the story started to ramp up greatly. its miles ahead of the usual wuxia/xanxia stuff. the writing and storytelling where great which probably was also due to an excellent translation.

[Anonymous No.13172814]

>>13172798
its on webnovel.com now.
the site has a habit of taking popular webnovels and then putting them behind a paywall.

[Anonymous No.13172829]

>>13172798
https://www.romanticlovebooks.com/xianxia/264.html
Here you go anon. This site is basically everything relevant webnovel but without a paywall. Updates usually take 3-4 days though.

[Anonymous No.13172864]

>>13172829
thanks you so fucking much dude.

[Anonymous No.13172913]

Is Armor good scifi to follow to after reading the Forever War? Would read Forever Free bit everywhere I look people say it's trash

[Anonymous No.13172929]

>>13172798
>way of choices
https://www.webnovel.com/book/8205217405006105/Way-of-Choices

[Anonymous No.13172949]

Recomend fantasy kinos, I started with Sanderson's Cosmere but it looks more soft and gay compared to asoiaf

[Anonymous No.13172973]

>>13172949
>It looks gay compared to a series full of gay sex

[Anonymous No.13173012]

>>13172949
You should probably work on your criticism if that is the best you can come up with after reading Sanderson. Read The Broken Empire and come back when you've had your full of grimdark.

[Anonymous No.13173054]

For those who read Malazan, how long did it take you?

[Anonymous No.13173068]

>>13173054
2 hours

[Anonymous No.13173083]

>>13173068
Based

[Anonymous No.13173097]

>>13173054
26 hours and 2 minutes

[Anonymous No.13173220]

>>13173054
a few weeks, but only because i read a little bit each time i went to the bathroom

[Anonymous No.13173351]

>>13171329
they're terrible. read start ship troopers and moon is a harsh mistress, also mote in god's eye for a reverse 1st contact story

[Anonymous No.13173380]

>>13171694
Lucifers Hammer - its about a comet

[Anonymous No.13173392]

>>13171968
Prince of Nothing
a child gets raped within ~5 pages and a raven with a human head gives a monster a blowjob. its great

[Anonymous No.13173405]

>>13172540
Dune though the first 3 Foundation books are my favorite sci-fi trilogy

[Anonymous No.13173414]

>>13172949
Prince of Nothing
Malazan
Book of the New Sun

[Anonymous No.13173426]

>>13173054
for all 10 books most of a year as audiobooks

[Anonymous No.13173431]

>>13173392
>a raven with a human head gives a monster a blowjob

[Anonymous No.13173467]

>>13173392
time to give it a second go, desu
seeing raven-monster fellatio in prose sounds hilarious

[Anonymous No.13173474]

>>13173054
Asked someone for an opinion about it and they said it's "probably skippable" so about 10 seconds

[Anonymous No.13173548]

>>13171822
Yea the cover is absolute shit.

[Anonymous No.13173655]

>>13172703
The whole reason I read fantasy is for the power level.

[Anonymous No.13173689]

>>13171968
For this year black leopard red wolf. All kinds of fucked up.

[Anonymous No.13173718]

what dicks do I have to suck to get my mediocre work published

[Anonymous No.13173743]

Where would I be able to find a copy of The Shadow People by Margaret Sinclair? I’m trying to read everything that’s in the “inspirational readings” list in the DM’s Handbook for D&D.

[Anonymous No.13173747]

>>13172913
>Is Armor good scifi to follow to after reading the Forever War?
Yes

>>13172710
Read Dune first unless you're an experienced reader.

>>13172540
Those are all radically different, but probably Dune. You can't really go wrong with any of them though.

[Anonymous No.13173766]

>>13173718
it's CURRENT YEAR anon, just self publish

[Anonymous No.13173780]

>>13173743
Mobilism
Also, check /lit/ sticky.

[Anonymous No.13173784]

>>13173766
nobody reads self published stuff

[Anonymous No.13173788]

why are chink protaganists always evil as fuck and literal rapists?

what does that say about chinese values?

[Anonymous No.13173806]

>>13173788
That they have a lot of little dick anger.

[Anonymous No.13173810]

>>13173788
Did you think we were joking about calling them bugmen?

[Anonymous No.13173834]

>>13173788
communist values and trad chinese values combined make a truly wicked combination, with a good chunk of the positives of the chink ones being superseded by authoritarian ones

[Anonymous No.13173913]

>>13173780
Thanks anon, you just saved me $100.

[Anonymous No.13173918]

When the FUCK is Kingkiller 3 coming out???

[Anonymous No.13173926]

>>13167743
Golly gee, he finished it? Lynch actually finished it? He's been delaying it for fucking forever.

[Anonymous No.13173930]

Magic as science or magic as mystical force with unclear rules?

[Anonymous No.13173934]

>>13167865
Yes. It has some of the best, hair raising, blood pumping sequences in modern literature. Only so yboy snooty lifeless cunts hate it LOL

[Anonymous No.13173941]

>>13173918
Not while trump is president. So not for 6 more years.

[Anonymous No.13174265]

>>13173941
wtf has that to do with it

[Anonymous No.13174290]

Is this the most Reddit book of all time? Stormlight is Shakespeare next to this.

[Anonymous No.13174320]

>>13174265
Trump makes Patrick cry and is largely responsible for his depression. He went on record to say Trump winning killed his productivity and you can often see him explode into manic rants on twitter about it.

[Anonymous No.13174333]

>>13173467
It's a boring fucking series though like most epic fantasy.

[Anonymous No.13174339]

>>13174320
Based

[Anonymous No.13174461]

Are there any books like Golden Age of the Solar Clipper where the MC isn't a big dicked sex god Gary Stu who fixes literally everything?
I loved Quarter Share but book 2 was awful and book 3 is just as bad in a different way.

[Anonymous No.13174468]

>>13174320
Amazing, he placates his sjw fans while excusing himself from his responsibilities at the same time
top tier shit m8

[Anonymous No.13174510]

>only fantasy I like is tolkien
>suffer through ASOIAF and GOT
>get depressed
>go back to tolkien
>find out that tolkiens son (not christopher) was molested by one of tolkiens friends and became a pedophile priest
wtf bros im gonna be sick

[Anonymous No.13174668]

>>13173784

[Anonymous No.13174687]

>21 hours ago William D. Arand & Randi Darren-Fan Page
>The Audiobook version of Remnant by Andrea has gone live. Post and share as you will and can.

[Anonymous No.13174726]

i should stop reading unfinished book series

[Anonymous No.13174889]

>>13174668

[Anonymous No.13174959]

>>13173788
China bans pornography and the male/female ratio is skewed due to sex-selective abortions so those teenage boys and manchildren who write them have a lot of unreleased sexual tension.

[Anonymous No.13175082]

>>13174510
Read bakker

[Anonymous No.13175195]

>>13172688
The Warhound an the World's Pain by Michael Moorcock

[Anonymous No.13175200]

Instead of coming up with these elaborate imaginary worlds, someone should just write a fantasy novel set in the ancient world, with the ancient gods and myths all being real real. I know about Latro in the mist but that's about the only book that I know to have tried this.

[Anonymous No.13175230]

>>13175200
The guy from the simpsons wrote something like that

[Anonymous No.13175233]

>>13175200
The problem with that is that there's only so much we know about the ancient world. Many societies lack any written record, and those that do often offer a perspective that might be entirely alien to the large majority of the population.
In that regard, you'd be left ignoring/inventing much of the experience, and you might be left with something closer to traditional fantasy, like Jason and the Argonauts or Clash of the Titans.

[Anonymous No.13175296]

>>13174889
Don't be that way anon, have sex.

[Anonymous No.13175299]

>>13175233
I would say that we know quite a lot about the ancient civilizations of europe and the near east, and i see no problem with the author filling in the blanks or granting himself creative freedom. Just look at game of thrones. Gods that speak to mortals through trees, a king that sacrifices his daughter to escape contrary weather, savage, primeval gods that were forgotten and replaced by more enlightened ones, these are all things borrowed from greek mythology. I was reading pic related and it fascinated me to no end. The idea that the god we worship today was one that prevailed in a contest among several semitic deities is just the sort of thing to be a template for a fantasy novel. There's just so much potential. Tons of historical fiction get published every year. What would be wrong with throwing some magic into the mix?

[Anonymous No.13175301]

>>13174510
Hey>>13174510 Would you mind if I recommended you this>>13172077

[Anonymous No.13175326]

>>13175200
Everworld kinda sorta

[Anonymous No.13175354]

What's the essential Heinlein I need to read?

[Anonymous No.13175360]

>>13175354
Everything up through Starship Troopers

[Anonymous No.13175388]

[Anonymous No.13175411]

>>13175388
based

[Anonymous No.13175420]

>>13175388
I thought we got rid of you

[Anonymous No.13175443]

>>13173718
Adapt a pen name that sounds like you're a black woman.

[Anonymous No.13175453]

>>13175388
Is that an effeminate dude or a chick?

[Anonymous No.13175459]

>>13175453
It's a moon elf.

[Anonymous No.13175461]

>>13175443
Keep an eye out for Mama Mbembe's new novel

[Anonymous No.13175464]

How does Soldier of Sidon hold up when compared to Latro in the Mist?

[Anonymous No.13175469]

>>13175453
its mary sue

[Anonymous No.13175591]

>>13175200
The Burning City which is in the The Magic Goes Away series

[Anonymous No.13175637]

Anyone here read pic related? I nabbed it for $2 for Kindle after it was described as Gladiator meets GoT.

Then I found out it's set in Africa or some shit.

[Anonymous No.13175668]

>>13175637
>X meets GoT
Always shit.
The only time i have not been disappointed by that comparison was with Luna by Ian McDonald.

[Anonymous No.13175821]

>>13175637
>we wuz dragons n shiet fuck whitey fantasy

No thanks m8

[Anonymous No.13175847]

>>13175637
>Then I found out it's set in Africa or some shit.
you couldnt tell by the zulu shield?

[Anonymous No.13175936]

Someone recommend a stand alone book, no trilogies or other in universe bs.

[Anonymous No.13175969]

>>13173054
I finished the tenth book about an hour ago
I bought them all back in the beginning of January but I was busy and only got around to reading approximately one book per month. After I had finished Midnight Tides (the fifth book) in the middle of April I ended up reading the remaining five in slightly more than a month

[Anonymous No.13175987]

>>13175936
Library at mount char
Lucifer's Hammer

[Anonymous No.13176042]

>>13175936
Terminal World
Early Riser

For a shorter read: The Smoke of Gold is Glory by Scott Lynch

[Anonymous No.13176061]

Alright, which one of you retards memed me into buying Gormenghast? What a boring fucking book, it's 90% descriptions

[Anonymous No.13176080]

>>13176061
It's a beautiful book.

[Anonymous No.13176110]

>>13176061
Continue to listen to sffg. When I told you it was shit you didn't listen.

[Anonymous No.13176163]

>>13176061
>What a boring fucking book, it's 90% descriptions
thats most books my friend

[Anonymous No.13176287]

>>13176163
Who woulda fuckin known that most books suck ass?

[Anonymous No.13176293]

>>13176061
>Being filtered by Gormenghast

[Anonymous No.13176466]

>>13176293
You didn't even read. stfu.

[Anonymous No.13176701]

Just finished Echopraxia from Peter Watts and just picked up pic related from Barnes and Noble. What am I in for?

[Anonymous No.13176715]

>>13176701
Mass Effect
Genuinely though, a good book. I've enjoyed it quite a bit.
I just started on the third book today

[Anonymous No.13176725]

Any hard science fiction with a black protagonist?

[Anonymous No.13176740]

>>13176725
I mean many protagonists aren't described all that extensively so many protagonists could be any race

[Anonymous No.13177228]

Need new amazon self published.

[Anonymous No.13177269]

How is lit moving so fast? Why are they so many non lit threads in the op?

[Anonymous No.13177277]

>>13177228
I'm making one.

[Anonymous No.13177286]

>>13177228
Better off scrolling through the "customers who bought this also bought" and "sponsored products related" than asking here. Just look for 100+ reviews and at least 4 stars. Amazon reviewers are a lot more accurate than faggots on goodread

[Anonymous No.13177300]

>>13177286
But the cunts on amazon praised harmon Cooper's shit book after some transformers real doll.

[Anonymous No.13177303]

>>13177228
Rely on yourself. The Amazon chart that gets published is only whatever that anon has personally read and liked.

[Anonymous No.13177310]

>>13177300
Well then what are a few books you have read and what are you looking for

[Anonymous No.13177359]

I don't know anything about Chinese literature. What are some works featuring the "Chad Chinaman"?

[Anonymous No.13177365]

>>13177300
about some transformers real doll*

[Anonymous No.13177370]

>>13177359
>coiling dragon
>desolate era
>cradle

[Anonymous No.13177387]

>>13177359
>>13177370
Coiling Dragon is shit. Desolte Era is based. Cradle is fun.

[Anonymous No.13177388]

>>13177370
>cradle
I see Will Wight put on his blog something with August 11th. I think that is when the next cradle novel is due.

[Anonymous No.13177562]

>>13173054
~9 months for the first book
~3 months for the rest

[Anonymous No.13177682]

>>13177562
Damn,is the first one that bad?

[Anonymous No.13177927]

what's some good, recent (from the last... five years, let's say) military sci fi?

[Anonymous No.13177936]

>>13176715
if there is even a hint of truth in your memeing then it has just to the top of my tbr

[Anonymous No.13177937]

>>13176725
Poseidon's Children trilogy.

[Anonymous No.13177947]

>>13177927
Poor man's fight

[Anonymous No.13177951]

>>13177936
...what? The book seems like Mass Effect took several leaves from it
I'm not memeing at all

[Anonymous No.13177953]

>>13177951
cool, that is actually what i wanted to hear

[Anonymous No.13178045]

>>13177359
Don't, they're all shit. Moreover if you've read one you've read them all, they all have the same themes with only minor differences.

I'm telling you from experience, your brain will literally turn into mush because and I'm not exaggerating when I say that the entire genre is something akin to comfort food for the braindead.

[Anonymous No.13178186]

>>13177682
no it's actually about average compared to the rest, it's just confusing and you need to pay attention

[Anonymous No.13178195]

Books that focus on a family or families?

I've read pic related, Little, Big and have The Fifth Head of Cerberus on my to read list. Is there anything else I should look for?

[Anonymous No.13178196]

>>13178195
Unironically ASoIaF

[Anonymous No.13178199]

>>13178196

...shit, I should have mentioned that in my post.

[Anonymous No.13178209]

EARLY THREAD

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[Anonymous No.13178504]

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>it's 90% descriptions
What did you expect? It's always praised for it's prose and imagery.

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what do you guys think of Malice by John Gwynne? thinking about reading the series.