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13141002 No.13141002 [Reply] [Original]

why can't real life be like this

>> No.13141009

>>13141002
real life is a dull boring mess just like this shit. well at least real life doesn't have someone repeating for the 1000th time a variation of
>divine X son of warlike Z speared A son of wealthy B, and black blood flowed from his mouth

>> No.13141016

>>13141002
But you can get stabbed in the eye and have your brains spill out any day.

>> No.13141041

>>13141009
>i would rather work in a cramped office cubicle for the next 20 years than be called 'godlike' 10 times a day
well ok then

>> No.13141115

>>13141002
my life is

>> No.13141125

It was a ten year siege. 90 percent of their time would be waiting. I would say that’s fairly reflective of real life.

>> No.13141142

>Ulysses at once went up to him and rebuked him sternly. "Check your glib tongue, Thersites," said be, "and babble not a word further. Chide not with princes when you have none to back you. There is no viler creature come before Troy with the sons of Atreus. Drop this chatter about kings, and neither revile them nor keep harping about going home. We do not yet know how things are going to be, nor whether the Achaeans are to return with good success or evil. How dare you gibe at Agamemnon because the Danaans have awarded him so many prizes? I tell you, therefore--and it shall surely be--that if I again catch you talking such nonsense, I will either forfeit my own head and be no more called father of Telemachus, or I will take you, strip you stark naked, and whip you out of the assembly till you go blubbering back to the ships."
>On this he beat him with his staff about the back and shoulders till he dropped and fell a-weeping. The golden sceptre raised a bloody weal on his back, so he sat down frightened and in pain, looking foolish as he wiped the tears from his eyes. The people were sorry for him, yet they laughed heartily
BASED

>> No.13141157

>>13141016
But I want that to happen while thinking I'm fighting for my home city and the gods above, not another random victim of a drugged out nigger, sacrifice for Israel, or a sadistic plaything for a autistic serial killer

>> No.13141161

When you work logistics at a shipyard like me everyday is like the Illiad.

>> No.13141169

>>13141142
>lol dude dont criticize our master!!! he's infallible ok, if you talk shit about him again i'll stop tongue punching his balls and kill you for bad mouthing king Agammenon!!
It's no wonder Homer was either ignored or called "a barbarian", and often considered a important but lesser poet as compared to Virgil. His proeminence really came with the rejection of the middle ages, which was just a chain reaction of a rejection of Aristotle. What a sad turn of events.

>> No.13141197

>>13141041
Achilles would agree

>> No.13141469

is fagle a good translation? was going through pope but really tired of it eventually, i'll come back to it.

>> No.13141606

when you're fucking the wife of a guy who works logistics at a shipyard every day is like the illiad

>> No.13141616
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13141616

>no modern iteration of the illiad

>> No.13142970

>>13141002
youd be dead

>> No.13142995
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13142995

>>13141002
CAN SOMEONE TELL ME HOW TO READ THIS? I have chapman's translation. is there something im missing? i read edith hamilton greek mythology for this book and i still dont understand

>> No.13143008

>>13142995
https://chs.harvard.edu/CHS/article/display/5942.part-i-introduction-to-homeric-poetry

>> No.13143020
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13143020

If I want to read the Iliad is there other stuff I should read before hand to prime myself for it? I'm a brainlet.

>> No.13143082

>>13141169
You're a hardcore brainlet if you think Homer portrays Agammemnon as infallible.

>> No.13143142

>>13142995
Try not reading the oldest English translation of it, for a start

>> No.13143291

>>13141142
>>13141169
homer is making a point in the thersites passage.
the most sensible and telling speech at agamemnon’s assembly is made by the anti-monarchical commoner. whom odysseus thereupon flogs.
to dissociate himself from thersites' sentiments, homer presents him as bow-legged, bald, hump-backed, horrible-looking, and a general nuisance; but the speech and odysseus' brutal action stay on record.

>> No.13143314

>>13143291
thersites says the same thing as achilles,but thersites speaks out at a bad time when the men are being tested

>> No.13143442

>>13141157
Well would you want to die thinking about how you amont thousands of other men are losing their lives because of some dumb thot

>> No.13143603

>>13141002
Life today is far better than this.

We live in the best system possible, with freedom and wealth for all people.

It's not perfect, but nothing else even comes close.

>> No.13143607

>>13141169
Are you retarded?

>> No.13143747

>>13143603
by we you mean america

>> No.13143762

>>13141616
>ywn read an epic poem about the heroic struggle of the afghans against the burger hordes

>> No.13143779

>>13143603
By wealth you mean an abundance of food, cars and TVs enabled by slavery and ruthless exploitation of nature that won't bring us anywhere spiritually and socially

>> No.13143940

>>13141002
it can

>> No.13144344

>>13143779
We're the most socially connected people in history.

And people now have the choice to explore their own spirituality, without all the violence.

>> No.13144549

>>13144344
i think we're the loneliest
everyone was lonely but we've lost the illusion that we're not

>> No.13144642

>>13144549
nah, go outside. see people being happy, travelling the world, having sex, making friends and loving life. it's just you that's sad and lonely

>> No.13144647

>>13141002
But it is, anon, it is...and it is up to you to live it!

>> No.13144655

>>13144642
orson welles said that

>> No.13144663

>>13141002
cause it's literally some made up shit that never actually happened

>> No.13144675

>>13144663
... that's why he said why can't real life be like this.

>> No.13144718

>>13144663
The Trojan War did not take place?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gulf_War_Did_Not_Take_Place

>> No.13144729

>>13144663
But in their folly those men scorned the divine voice and renown of song, and in trouble shall one of them remember this hereafter

>> No.13144814

>>13143779
>enabled by slavery
There is nothing inherently wrong with slavery.
>ruthless exploitation of nature
Most of nature is unconscious and doomed to expire anyways.

>> No.13144878

>>13144344
By "people" you mean all those that profit from the globalised exploitation, a marginal amount of the population. Most social connections we have are superficial. As if WhatsApp, mass media and 4chan could deliver any depth. Technologically we are advanced, but emphatically, socially and spiritually we are poorer than the old tribes. Check out Erich Fromm.

>> No.13144913

>>13144878
This is the best moment to be alive for all humans on this planet and people have access to the spiritual traditions of almost every culture on this planet.