/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.13140138]

Where does the S.W.E.A.T. pledge rank among other such important documents like the Magna Carta, US Constitution, 10 Commandments, etc.?

[Anonymous No.13140159]

>>13140138
below dog shit
kill yourself

[Anonymous No.13140163]

>>13140138
Toilet paper

[Anonymous No.13140175]

[Anonymous No.13140205]

>>13140175 what did it say before 'the poor'?

[Anonymous No.13140218]

This is the G.O.Y.I.M. pledge. I have am the highest I can go at my job before management with no skills and I'm not even reliable, telling 20 and 30 year line workers to do it again while I ride the maximum call out policy. I'm going to get the company to send me to school and pay for my land while Bob and Sue work the floor like they have since before I was born.

[Anonymous No.13140248]

>>13140205
Niggers

[Anonymous No.13140289]

>>13140248 lol i see

[Anonymous No.13140292]

>>13140248
Kek of course it did

[Anonymous No.13140348]

>>13140138
Le smug boomer face

[Anonymous No.13140365]

His naivete infuriates me. The pledge is a manifesto on how to be a doormat to your boss.

[Anonymous No.13140381]

>>13140138
Paid shill, he's on /tv/ too. Fuck off on the opera singer you road in on.

[Anonymous No.13140384]

>>13140365
>implying that's not intentional
Look at his smug face. The fucker knows exactly what he's doing. He's a fucking boomer who had it all easy and now laughs in the face of despair. "haha son just give'em a firm handshake. i paid for my college with this Donalds job i got in the 78' summer haha"

[Anonymous No.13140400]

>>13140138

Right at the boomer bottom.

[Ed Baldwin No.13140421]

>>13140175
>Looks up who "Kristijan Bralo" is
>Author of mostly porn addiction self-help books
Surprising

[Anonymous No.13140424]

>>13140138
all of that is obvious, commonly held, and lived on a daily basis by nearly everyone on the planet, whether they acknowledge it or not.

work harder faggot, settle for less, and remember if anything goes dick up it was because someone slept in. this place is a 100% meritocracy. coming from a millionaire who watches other people work on a tv show and makes public appearances dressed as a blue collar worker.

[Anonymous No.13140426]

>>13140424
Le smug boomer post

[Anonymous No.13140432]

>>13140424

this is more of a fantasy than people claim communism is

[Anonymous No.13140445]

>>13140384
Boomers are cancerous. Even though my life is hell I'm glad I'm not an empty vapid boomer mowing his lawn and listening to Rush Limbaugh.

[Anonymous No.13140459]

I understand work can give life some meaning, indeed a good deal of it, but where did this glorification of labor for labor's sake come from? how did this idea take root in only in america?

[Anonymous No.13140478]

>>13140459

Because Americans are mentally retarded slaves.

[Anonymous No.13140700]

>>13140459
Inherent value of labor is a christcuck concept that predates america, basically because idle hands are the devils plaything. Jews viewed labor as a curse, sort of like the pain in childbirth, but Christians take all the hardships of their lot in life as a blessing, as it's the slave castes cope religion.

[Anonymous No.13140870]

>>13140459
One must imagine Sisyphus with a smile.

[Anonymous No.13140885]

>>13140459
maybe because america is a cultural and historical wasteland, and all the people who came to it were in search of money and shallow materialistic pursuits, "muh american dream". the ones who didn't come in search of money, were avoiding wars and famine, and ended up hating america (90% of immigrants went back to their country, like the italians). only the materialistic scum stayed, which's why america is such a degenerate trash

[Anonymous No.13140910]

>>13140459
Capitalism works best when the proles honestly believe they are lucky to be enslaved, or that devoting their lives to a profit margin somehow legitimises them morally or purifies their character.

[Anonymous No.13141534]

>>13140175
Near the top for boomers, near the bottom for millennials.

[Anonymous No.13141586]

>>13140384
Mike Rowe is a television presenter who's never worked blue collar job in his life. He's a multi-millionaire.

[Anonymous No.13142387]

>>13140424
I agreed with you. more or less, right up until the "100% meritocracy" thing.

[Anonymous No.13142420]

>>13140138
>1
Sure, but drop the America thing. Nature > nuture
>2
Empty point
>3
Drivel
>4
Sure
>5
Sure
>6
Empty point
>7
I guess if you're fine being a wageslave, it doesn't hurt to do your job well. Otherwise, who cares
>8
Valid point
>9
Valid point
>10
Sure
>11
Eh, so-so. Rolling over and accepting a dick in your ass is pretty cucked, but I also think envy and resentment are stupid. There's a happy middle I think
>12
Even if people weren't born equal (which they are not), the second bit can still apply. So, empty point
What a waste of paper. His face is a joke too.

[Anonymous No.13142426]

>>13141534
Based and Marxpilled

[Anonymous No.13142429]

>>13140445
I bet you wish you were kiddo. Face it. You're jealous becaude we were more competent and less whiny then you.

[Anonymous No.13142436]

>>13140175
>is akin to calling a slave ungrateful
This is absolutely correct. A whiny slave is ungrateful.

[Anonymous No.13142438]

>>13140138
>I believe I have won the greatest lottery of all time. [...] I live in America. Above all things, I am grateful.
>I believe that I am the product of my choices - not my circumstances.

[Anonymous No.13142440]

>>13140138
Who's this redneck faggot?

[Anonymous No.13142549]

>be a well-off tv host with a degree in communications that never in his life worked a blue collar job
>be a spokesman for living the wageslave life

[Anonymous No.13142569]

Look at all these faggot zoomers getting stressed because an older man who has lived and actual life not in front of a computer dare suggests that you get off your ass and work for a living.

>b-b-but muh robot automated labour future I was promised waaaah waaaah waaaah

[Anonymous No.13142574]

>>13142569
who are you quoting

[Anonymous No.13142580]

>>13142569
>older man who has lived and actual life not in front of a computer
Yeah, he lived his life in front of a camera.

[Anonymous No.13142584]

>>13140138

It ranks in the obsequious, pathetic, pussy boy faggot tier.

[Anonymous No.13142590]

>>13142580
Have you ever actually worked a 16 hour day on a set? I thought not you candy ass boy hooker.

[Anonymous No.13142611]

>>13140138

10 is a gaze into the boomer brain

Imagine being such an unabashed dumb cunt and thinking that circumstance doesn't dominate you. Yeah dude, go be born in some wasteland shithole country or with a 70IQ and see how far you go lmao. Or even just be born to a psychotic parent that abuses you.

MUH CHOICES

[Anonymous No.13142625]

>>13142611
>10 is a gaze into the boomer brain
It is thoroughly moderne and genealogically a product of Renaissance Humanism.

[Anonymous No.13142638]

>>13142429
It was all birth lottery.

[Anonymous No.13142643]

>>13140175
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>>13142549
Clearly none of you faggots have ever held an actual job.

99% of people see work as prison and full of pride and self-pity--you cunts are exactly the same as every "wage-slave" you have so much contempt for. It is absolutely plebeian not to do the things in the OP as a bare minimum. Anyone who comes to their job and does it without resentment is a rarity and a hero to everyone around him. I bet you faggots mentally complain every time a worker doesn't look happy to be at their job--or worse, you feel sorry for them and build up a pompous fury over the state of "society". All fantasy and no responsibility.

Cunts.

[Anonymous No.13142654]

>>13142643
>the status quo is acceptable
Uncle Ted would like a word

[Anonymous No.13142679]

>>13142654
what status quo?

[Anonymous No.13142694]

>>13142679
Whatever exists now. I can't really explain why it exists since it makes no sense. Not really sure why people still defend it, though

[Anonymous No.13142698]

>>13142694
who defends it?

[Anonymous No.13142710]

>>13142698
Whoever typed
>all fantasy and no responsibility
>cunts

[Anonymous No.13142722]

>>13142710
how does it follow from working without complaining that one is "accepting the status quo"?

[Anonymous No.13142726]

>>13140138
Somewhere below cuck fanfiction.

>>13140175
The frog ruins it. Also who gives a shit about morals.

[Anonymous No.13142728]

>>13142643
Big talk coming from someone who probably still lives at his mum's house

[Anonymous No.13142735]

>>13142722
Why would someone complain if they had no complaints? If you see a problem, say it or fix it. If you don't see a problem, don't say anything. Do you really not see it? I agree that if you enjoy/accept your work, you have no reason to complain as you bring that suffering on yourself. Even so, by accepting such work (which is invariably a product of the status quo), you accept said status quo.

[Anonymous No.13142740]

>>13142643
>Bootlicker NPC raging at the questioning of defined parameters and master-servant relations, 2019, colourized by .CSS

[Anonymous No.13142757]

>>13142735
again, what is this mythical status quo? what is a shoemaker in the 16th century "accepting" besides the fact that he must work for others in order to be able to demand anything in return? what grand "status quo" is a 21st century unskilled laborer wholeheartedly affirming by delivering appliances to people who need them to cook, clean, and store things?

[Anonymous No.13142773]

>>13142757
Like I said, I can't explain it because it doesn't make sense. Why people bend over and let others fuck their ass doesn't make sense to me. If all you care about is getting your next paycheck, then that is the status quo I guess. It's the sum of all parts that directly and indirectly influence your life. Both the shoemaker and unskilled laborer are accepting their lowly position because they see no problem, or see a problem but can't/won't fix it

[Anonymous No.13142791]

>>13142757
A 16th century shoemaker was most likely self-employed. Someone of their position nowadays is most likely employed by someone else, someone who most likely does not participate in any productive way or even oversee the process. Even worse, many are in literal workshops, paid pennies for the hundred dollar product they stich together.

[Anonymous No.13142818]

>>13142773
you're drawing conclusions that aren't merited. what is inherently wrong with shoe-making or delivering? these are ancient and necessary professions which we could not do without. why is it inherently degrading to perform these services for others or to make a career out of it? why do you characterize them as people who are not taking responsibility for the problem, so-called, of this status quo?

>>13142791
>someone who most likely does not participate in any productive way or even oversee the process
this is not always the case. often times the managers do more of the grunt work, alongside their other responsibilities, with less complaining than the lower employees

>paid pennies for the hundred dollar product they stich together
labor isn't the only expense for the seller, nor does the laborer's contract with the employer have anything to do with the profit.

[Anonymous No.13142825]

>>13142643
You sound like one of those broken down boomers who’ve worked the same retail customer service job since the 90’s and never moved up because you aren’t very competent and you lack what little respectability is required to be a supervisor so you prettily narc on the teens—who, by the way, start at about a dollar less an hour—who don’t take the job as seriously as you think they should.

[Anonymous No.13142831]

>>13142818
>necessary professions
>we could not do without
Oh man. Please, PLEASE give me some proof of this.
It's not degrading if that's all you're capable of.
They are simply accepting their position in life. That is fine, but it is accepting the status quo. If you have a problem with the status quo, you will likely take issue with such people because they maintain the system. I hate using these words, but oh well I guess

[Anonymous No.13142832]

>>13140138
look OP, boomers just dont want to acknowledge determinism in any form. this bootstraps thing is a meme. its a distinctly american habit to believe entirely in free will and overcoming circumstances.

[Anonymous No.13142844]

>>13142757
I hate this type of gay Socratic bullshit, you know exactly what he means, you’re just trying to devolve the convo into word games

[Anonymous No.13142858]

>>13142844
That isn't even socratic. He's just a materialist sophist NPC

[Anonymous No.13142868]

>>13142818
>why is it inherently degrading to perform these services for others or to make a career out of it?
Absolutely nothing. If they freely choose to do so, which is unlikely for most workers who have no choices beyond work or death.

[Anonymous No.13142875]

>>13142831
i'm not sure why you need proof. without moving goods from one place to another (delivery) how is society going to function? as for shoes, am I to presume that where you are people do not wear them?

what you're talking about is a kind of "settling"--I settle for this wage, I settle for this type of work, and so forth. yet, in my experience, the only people who settle are the ones who, like you, see certain types of work as lowly, unacceptable, etc and are resentful of even the bare minimum they have to perform. those who do not settle, happily do whatever is before them and more, which is why they subsequently inherit more responsibility

>>13142858
why must i be a materialist? this is what i am trying to understand about you fellows--apparently i cannot be a shoemaker necessarily being an atheist

[Anonymous No.13142898]

>>13142643
Based boomer. Don't listen to these dumb kiddies

[Anonymous No.13142904]

>>13142868
how many people do you know who have a choice apart from work or death? in fact, we do not even have a choice between these--everyone who works also must die. is it not man's lot to toil and labor upon the earth all the day's of his life? who are the privileged few exempt from this?

[Anonymous No.13142910]

>>13142875
You said they are necessary and that "we" could not do without them. What you were referring to was society/civilization/the status quo. I know this, and yet you reinforced it here. You absolutely can live without shoes, or, get this, make your own. Only complex and hierarchical societies require transportation and moved goods.
I already said that those who are happy with their work and do not view it as "settling" have no reason to complain. But if you think everyone who is a shoemaker or generic laborer is un-equipped to do higher tasks, then we fundamentally have different views about human nature. Not saying every lowly laborer is able to do higher tasks, but some certainly are and may or may not "complain" about it.
And the original issue was about accepting the status quo, i.e. the circumstances of your condition. I'm challenging the notion that every worker ought to be grateful and with stoic acceptance of things that can't be changed, accept their position in life without ever feeling the need to critique what's going on from their perspective

[Anonymous No.13142920]

>>13142904
>how many people do you know who have a choice apart from work or death?
Any richfag. Also most people in civilised countries with a decent social security.

>everyone who works also must die
Jesus. Does autism have no limits?

[Anonymous No.13142933]

>>13142875
Anyone that works for a living is a materialist. Anyone that lives for a living is an idealist

[Anonymous No.13142936]

>>13142910
ok, let's discuss these workers who ought to be ungrateful and not stoically accept the status quo, as you say.

some workers, in your view, should be grateful, presumably because they ought to take what they can get, seeing as how they are not capable of taking on more responsibility. who is giving it to them? you speak as if they were at the mercy of the status quo, merely feeding off of it--yet some, those who can afford to be ungrateful, ought to criticize this status quo, presumably with heartfelt compassion towards those who suffer under it but must be grateful since it is all that they can get. now, my question, eternally, has been this: what are this privileged, ungrateful few actually criticizing? most likely, it is that for which they can afford to be ungrateful--but why are they criticizing it if they do not have to suffer under it?

[Anonymous No.13142943]

>>13142933
I don't know, mate. I'd consider myself a materialist but I couldn't care less about work, unless we count writing.

[Anonymous No.13142953]

>>13142943
Are you writing for the sake of money or because you love money? Former is materialism, latter is idealism

[Anonymous No.13142957]

>>13142953
>>13142943
Sorry. Let me try again.
Are you writing because for the sake of money, or because you love writing? Former is materialism, latter is idealism

[Anonymous No.13142960]

>>13142590
>Have you ever actually worked a 16 hour day on a set? I thought not you candy ass boy hooker.
Actually I worked on tv sets for several years. The crew is doing all the work, the actors/hosts are pampered fucks who stay with the make-up/hair chicks and only come on set when they're needed. Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.13142961]

>>13142920
what other choice do richfags have that is not available to us mortals?

>>13142933
>lives for a living
you'll have to unpack this one for me i confess it is too obscure for my understanding. apparently there are these two modes of living, one of which is not living (by principle of exclude middle), is this correct?

[Anonymous No.13142971]

Work sucks under any system, shovelling shit is shovelling shit.

[Anonymous No.13142979]

>>13142936
Ah, you assume those who criticize do not have to suffer. It is true, upper class individuals who were born without responsibility do not have to suffer, and often do critique the system from their removed position. There are others who are under the influence of the status quo who also critique it from their perspective. In both cases, those critiquing (I think) want something better for everyone, although there are certainly those who want something only better for themselves.
For example, I am glad some people working night shifts at McDonald's can be content, happy, whatever. But, having done similar work, I have to look at the whole of what's happening and say, "you know, I think there might be something better."
And to think I don't "suffer" because I try to remove myself from these tendrils is pretty funny, if that's what you're trying to say. I don't trumpet my suffering, but this modus operandi is draining on me, and I do my best to think about solutions to problems I see. If you don't see problems, don't worry about it. You're lucky. But, on the flip side, if I try to enact a change and by some miracle succeed, tough shit for everyone else if they don't like it.

[Anonymous No.13142981]

please stop shilling this phony on a literature board

[Anonymous No.13142982]

>>13142957
Nah, I don't really care about money as long there is enough for me to exist in peace but materialism goes beyond it. Even purely economical materialism. I still like having and buying "stuff" and don't write out of some meme ideals. It's simply the most pleasant activity I found to occupy myself during the little time we have left.

[Anonymous No.13142984]

>>13142961
I'm saying define "living" by something other than working. If you define living as working, you're a materialist. If you define living as say, being a soldier for soldering's sake, that's idealist

[Anonymous No.13143027]