I said I was waiting until after Thanksgiving before creating a gifting thread. One day after is good enough, yes? Post 'em

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Anonymous Fri Nov 26 12:46:20 2010 No.1312645 [Reply] [Original]

I said I was waiting until after Thanksgiving before creating a gifting thread. One day after is good enough, yes?

Post 'em

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 12:49:20 2010 No.1312655 http://amzn.com/w/2OJOFPAWVBI1C why not? thanks if you do, and if you do not I can see why. Love, yours truly.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 12:50:20 2010 No.1312659 http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/wishlist/23OV9CSTAJ8CG

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 13:17:20 2010 No.1312708 http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/wishlist/1ELZJ2Z0M2H9G Happy Thanksgiving from Canada!

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 13:19:20 2010 No.1312709 http://www.amzn.com/w/2HGG1IL2M673U anything would be appreciated

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 13:22:20 2010 No.1312714 www.amazon.com/wishlist/gp/shoveyour/dickupyourasspoorfucks Anything would be great. I never get anything from these though. But really anything would be great.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 13:24:20 2010 No.1312716 File: 91 KB, 500x500, 1289453448352.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] http://www.amazon.ca/registry/wishlist/1GI3WG793Y9I8/ >Pic related, it's mfw someone finally gifts to canada

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 13:25:20 2010 No.1312719 Anything would be nice. Also recommendations. http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/wishlist/367X5LJXG3TDD

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 13:26:20 2010 No.1312720 lol http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/wishlist/S0EPGJRLW91

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 13:27:20 2010 No.1312723 canadian here ): http://www.amazon.ca/wishlist/2AN416B0JY1DV

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 13:32:20 2010 No.1312735 either way, my nigger http://www.amazon.co.uk/wishlist/1ZXVGKTMGPQBK

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 13:33:20 2010 No.1312737 http://amzn.com/w/31DSEN1KC2UMC

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 13:34:20 2010 No.1312739 http://www.amazon.ca/registry/wishlist/1GI3WG793Y9I8/ Fuck you all, buy me somthing you pieces of shit. Canada OUT.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 13:40:20 2010 No.1312754 http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/registry/wishlist/ref=wish_list I'm sick and drunk, here's hopin'

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 13:43:20 2010 No.1312760 http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/wishlist/367X5LJXG3TDD Give me shit. You jackass.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 13:45:20 2010 No.1312763 Thanks in advance. Make sure CAPSGUY doesn't get a sniff of this. http://amzn.com/w/1EP9H1FMQTA4S

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 13:47:20 2010 No.1312766 http://amzn.com/w/1EP9H1FMQTA4S I need some shit. Get me something expensive.

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 13:56:20 2010 No.1312781
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/wishlist/3DY70H6264JM9

if my pic made you laugh you owe me a book =P

also, if I am gifted upon, I will gift an item of equal or greater value to someone else here

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 14:24:20 2010 No.1312829 File: 464 KB, 480x359, gnar.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] hey dudes. can't wait 'til the drama starts http://amzn.com/w/2GQ2M5Z6IB6C8

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 14:27:20 2010 No.1312840 >>1312829 I want to buy you something but right now i am going out, if this thread is still alive by the time i get back i will buy you something you triplecoon

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 14:28:20 2010 No.1312844 >>1312840 haha. i like that name. thanks, bruh

>>	It's goofy time Anonymous Fri Nov 26 14:29:20 2010 No.1312845 >>1312829 You post your wishlist in every thread you greedy fucker. Maybe if you didn't post the same image every time it wouldn't be so obvious.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 14:30:20 2010 No.1312848 >One day after is good enough, yes? No. Since we've had a gifting thread every single day this week. Beggars will be beggars.

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 14:32:20 2010 No.1312849
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Always like to try my luck :)
Any comments on any of the books on there is cool too. I like to horde opinions; it's useful when choosing which book to buy next.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/wishlist/3OZ7FOHWENZA3

Pic vaguely related, it's the cathedral which Golding's 'Spire' is based on.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 14:35:20 2010 No.1312852 >>1312845 i post the same image on purpose. i've never received anything in these threads. but i do buy things for people every time i post in a wishlist thread. so soothe your aching butt

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 14:37:29 2010 No.1312854 File: 19 KB, 160x223, matt-baker.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] http://amzn.com/w/OZFTWNE8YLGO

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 14:41:20 2010 No.1312858 >>1312852 >I've never received anything You lie. Stop taking advantage of other people's good will.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 14:42:20 2010 No.1312861 https://www.amazon.com/registry/wishlist/21BSYZ3OL63U0 word.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 14:42:20 2010 No.1312862 >>1312858 uh, what? i haven't. do you have proof that i have?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 14:42:20 2010 No.1312863 I've posted some random amazon wishlists in this thread. And I'm going to post a lot more. You won't know whose are from /lit/ and whose aren't. Which is the way it should be. If you're only concern is giving to anonymous people that is.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 14:44:20 2010 No.1312868 >>1312862 I have proof that you show up in every single wishlist thread without fail. That's proof that you're greedy and just want something for nothing. I should do the same actually. It's a good scam. Hell you probably even start these threads.

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 14:45:20 2010 No.1312870

>>1312863
that's so sweet, imagine just getting a package in the mail of something you want and you never told anyone you wanted it and a stranger just bought it for you. it melts my little heart.
>>1312862
i bought you siddhartha, i had to pay for shipping you nigger

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 14:46:20 2010 No.1312873
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>>1312868
doesn't everyone in these threads want something for nothing? do you really think i'm the only one who posts in every wishlist thread? y u so mad?

why don't you put up your list? i'll get you something.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 14:46:20 2010 No.1312875 Why is it that this cancer always shows up when the kids are home from school? Weekends holidays and all summer long. Bunch of entitled spoiled brats.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 14:47:20 2010 No.1312877 >>1312870 gimme dat list. repayment is in order

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 14:47:20 2010 No.1312878 >>1312873 That's different from spamming your list in every thread. Stop being greedy and trying to take advantage of other people. You're trying to jump the line.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 14:48:20 2010 No.1312880 Fuck can't we all just get along?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 14:49:20 2010 No.1312885 >>1312880 Sure. Just delete this shit, and harmony will be restored.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 14:50:20 2010 No.1312887 >>1312878 i'll repeat the question: you think i'm the only one who posts in every wishlist thread? if i didn't post that picture every time you wouldn't care

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 14:51:20 2010 No.1312891 Someone gifted me a used book, and it arrived it was tattered and dirty lol. Check the seller rating if you're buying used books cuz that was not good. Not posting my list again because I kind of agree with the angry guy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 14:51:20 2010 No.1312892 >>1312870 >that's so sweet, imagine just getting a package in the mail of something you want and you never told anyone you wanted it and a stranger just bought it for you. I would be kinda creeped out tbh..

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 14:52:20 2010 No.1312897 >>1312887 Actually no I don't think you're the only one. I'm sure lots of the beggars are greedy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 14:54:20 2010 No.1312902 If it's going to cause this much drama, maybe we should give this a rest for awhile. This thread is ruined by the same crap we always get. tl;dr this is why we can't have nice things.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 14:55:20 2010 No.1312910 >>1312892 It's more honest to just gift to a random ANONYMOUS person than to be swapping books, to give only in order to receive.

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 14:56:20 2010 No.1312913
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They only post because they see it getting a reaction. Just ignore people who hate da big bad wishlist thweads soooo-o-o-o much that they can't resist thrashing it every time one comes up.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 14:57:20 2010 No.1312915 >>1312877 my list is http://www.amazon.co.uk/wishlist/1ZXVGKTMGPQBK but don't just buy for me because i bought for you, spread goodwill around, not one to one!

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 14:58:20 2010 No.1312917 >>1312913 You know how I can tell this is cancer? Because it's so hard to kill.

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 14:59:10 2010 No.1312920 [DELETED]

WASHINGTON — Months ago, when Republican Rep. Dan Lungren proposed the first major change to the new health care law, his idea fizzled.

He wanted to get rid of what he nicknamed the Universal Snitch Act: It's a provision in the law that would force businesses to report any transactions of more than $600 to the Internal Revenue Service.

Now his idea has picked up momentum: It is part of the new GOP Pledge to America, which House Republicans are promising to enact next year, and it won a key endorsement earlier this month from President Barack Obama.

"It's kind of interesting to go from being a guy who's the pest on the windshield to being one of the leaders in something," said Lungren, of Gold River, the incoming chairman of the House Administration Committee. "When I first brought it up, there was concerted effort on the Democratic side not to even acknowledge what I was doing."

Read more: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/11/26/104332/california-rep-lungrens-proposed.html#ixzz16QIoPPcd

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 14:59:20 2010 No.1312922 File: 68 KB, 800x534, HEALTH.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1312915 book inbound

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 15:00:20 2010 No.1312924

The president cited Lungren's bill as an area where he can work with the new GOP House majority.

At a news conference, Obama said the provision "appears to be too burdensome for small businesses" and should be examined.

"It just involves too much paperwork, too much filing," the president said. "It's probably counterproductive."

He said the measure was designed to raise revenue to pay for other provisions in the bill.

"But if it ends up just being so much trouble that small businesses find it difficult to manage, that's something that we should take a look at."

Replied Lungren: "I'm pleased that the president has said that it's burdensome."

Lungren's bill, called the Small Business Paperwork Mandate Elimination Act, has 179 co-sponsors, including Republican Rep. Tom McClintock of Elk Grove. A similar bill has been introduced in the Senate by Republican Mike Johanns of Nebraska.

Read more: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/11/26/104332/california-rep-lungrens-proposed.html#ixzz16QIvck69

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 15:01:20 2010 No.1312927

The legislation would scrap a provision in the health care law that would require businesses to file a 1099 tax form whenever they purchased more than $600 worth of goods or services from an entity or individual.

At a Senate hearing last week, Lawrence Nannis, chairman of the National Small Business Association, called the mandate "an ugly byproduct" of the health care law.

"The only solution to the huge problem posed by the new 1099 reporting provision is full repeal," Nannis said.

Lungren said the law would allow the federal government "to have a paper trail for every purchase you make."

Even though it took him months to get the bill on the Washington radar, Lungren said his legislation "explains itself" and has not attracted any significant opposition.

"Once you see it, how can you justify it?" he asked of the mandate.

Read more: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/11/26/104332/california-rep-lungrens-proposed.html#ixzz16QJ6JNFi

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 15:01:20 2010 No.1312930

With reports swirling that a third document-dump by the Internet organization WikiLeaks could be imminent - and might reveal confidential comments by foreign leaders about their governments - American diplomats are in damage-control mode.

The Washington Post reported today that the new round of secret documents "could reveal that senior government officials in other countries are the sources of embarrassing information about the inner workings of those governments, thus making it more difficult for the State Department to obtain such intelligence in the future."

With Iraq beginning a sensitive and high-stakes month of negotiations over a new government that would country for the next four years, U.S. officials here are worried about what secrets the new leaks could reveal. In a briefing with foreign correspondents this morning, the U.S. ambassador to Baghdad, Jim Jeffrey, called WikiLeaks "an absolutely awful impediment to my business, which is to be able to have discussions in confidence with people."

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 15:02:20 2010 No.1312931

Responding to a question from a reporter from The New York Times - which WikiLeaks has provided with an advance look at the documents the last two times - Jeffrey said the documents "simply hurt our ability to do our work here."

He didn't elaborate, but anything that embarrasses the two lynchpins of the new government - prime minister-designate Nouri al Maliki and secular Shiite leader Iyad Allawi - could be damaging to U.S. efforts to bolster the talks, to say nothing of discussions on the future American military presence in Iraq and other sensitive questions.

Jeffrey said that Iraqi leaders would be angered by WikiLeaks, too. "Anybody who has confidential discussions (that) find their way into print is going to be very, very unhappy," he said.

The documents could be released as early as this weekend.

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 15:03:20 2010 No.1312935

President Barack Obama has awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom -- America's highest civilian honor -- to Tom Little, the New York optometrist who was one of 10 aid workers to be mercilessly killed in August by mysterious assailants in northern Afghanistan.

Obama bestowed the honor on Little and an eclectic group of 14 other people, including German Chancellor Angela Merkel, former US President George H.W. Bush (aka 41), poet Maya Angelou, investor Warren Buffett, artist Jasper Johns, and musician Yo-Yo Ma.

The International Assistance Mission, the aid group that organized the ill-fated medical mission, said it was "heartened" to learn of the honor for one of their longtime members.

"We are very appreciative that the hard work and sacrifice of the Nuristan Eye Camp team has been recognised by so many," the IAM said. "We would also like to remember the work of all those who died, particularly Dan Terry who was a very good friend of Tom and had also lived, worked, and raised his family here for over 30 years."

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 15:03:20 2010 No.1312937

Earlier this month, Checkpoint Kabul posted a link to a unique view of a US Marine firefight in southern Afghanistan.

South African cameraman Adil Bradlow fastened cameras to the helmets and rifles of Marines as they went on patrol and engaged in a firefight with unseen insurgents.

In some cases, the cameras were turned to face the soldier. As a result, Adil was able to provide unusual views of the firefight.

Now, Adil has posted an extended version of his footage, including interviews with the Marines in Helmand.

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 15:04:20 2010 No.1312941

"We are very appreciative that the hard work and sacrifice of the Nuristan Eye Camp team has been recognised by so many," the IAM said. "We would also like to remember the work of all those who died, particularly Dan Terry who was a very good friend of Tom and had also lived, worked, and raised his family here for over 30 years."

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Fighting ghosts in southern Afghanistan

Earlier this month, Checkpoint Kabul posted a link to a unique view of a US Marine firefight in southern Afghanistan.

South African cameraman Adil Bradlow fastened cameras to the helmets and rifles of Marines as they went on patrol and engaged in a firefight with unseen insurgents.

In some cases, the cameras were turned to face the soldier. As a result, Adil was able to provide unusual views of the firefight.

Now, Adil has posted an extended version of his footage, including interviews with the Marines in Helmand.

If that's not enough, there is also a 14-minute version of the footage.

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November 25, 2010
How not to get punk'd by the Taliban

After weeks of trumpeting their role in facilitating "high level" talks between the Taliban and Afghan government, NATO officials were embarrassed this week when it became clear that the man they thought was the #2 Taliban leader in exile was actually an impostor.

While NATO officials and Afghan leaders are trying to figure out who took them for a ride, Foreign Policy has devised a handy Top Ten List to help them distinguish real Taliban leaders from the impostors.

Hint: If the "Taliban leader" keeps asking for the talks to be held in the Maldives and runs up massive mini bar bills, you may not be on the right track...

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 15:05:20 2010 No.1312942 >>1312937 post link. that sounds rad

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 15:05:20 2010 No.1312947

November 26, 2010
Obama Freedom Medal goes to slain aid worker

Afghan.tom.little-thumb-610x457 President Barack Obama has awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom -- America's highest civilian honor -- to Tom Little, the New York optometrist who was one of 10 aid workers to be mercilessly killed in August by mysterious assailants in northern Afghanistan.

Obama bestowed the honor on Little and an eclectic group of 14 other people, including German Chancellor Angela Merkel, former US President George H.W. Bush (aka 41), poet Maya Angelou, investor Warren Buffett, artist Jasper Johns, and musician Yo-Yo Ma.

The International Assistance Mission, the aid group that organized the ill-fated medical mission, said it was "heartened" to learn of the honor for one of their longtime members.

"We are very appreciative that the hard work and sacrifice of the Nuristan Eye Camp team has been

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 15:06:20 2010 No.1312949

What are the costs of failure in Afghanistan?

This weekend, McClatchy Newspapers has produced an in-depth, multi-media series that explores this question.

The project took months of research and reporting from Washington to Afghanistan. The reporting team included Warren P. Stobel, Jonathan S. Landay, Marisa Taylor, Hashim Shukoor, Tish Wells, Chris Adams and myself.

Part One looks at more than $200 million in failed and flawed US Army Corps of Engineers projects since 2008.

Along with the overview, McClatchy focused on one failed police station in a remote Badakhshan district where Afghan police officers work out of a mud home across from the the unfinished police compound. Badblog1

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 15:07:20 2010 No.1312951 wow, I didn't think anyone could make wishlist threads worse, but this troll has. let the beggars have their thread. Posting articles about Obama is more obnoxious and less relevant you faggot.

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 15:07:20 2010 No.1312952

onathan Landay and Hashim Shukoor traveled to Baghlan where they discovered Afghan workers living in squalid conditions that "have become symbols of the corruption, nepotism and mismanagement that pervade President Hamid Karzai's government, hobble the U.S. effort to rebuild Afghanistan, and fuel the Taliban-led insurgency that now threatens both sites."

Marisa Taylor examined billions of dollars in US funds going to companies with questionable problems that are often overlooked by the US government.

"The lax scrutiny, critics say, has created an American contracting culture where almost any past indiscretion can be overlooked," Marisa write

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 15:08:20 2010 No.1312955

as Obama's '$200 million-a-day' trip a bargaining ploy?

Remember all that talk about President Barack Obama's trip to India costing $200 million-per-day?

The Daily Show has unraveled the mystery of the exorbitant -- and inaccurate -- number: It was an opening negotiating ploy.

The Daily Show's Aasif Mandvi explains that this was all a simple cultural misunderstanding: The mistake for Westerners was to accept the first number they heard. The $200 million was supposed to set off a round of haggling over the true value of the trip...

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 15:09:20 2010 No.1312957

At a joint press conference this afternoon in New Delhi, the first question for President Barack Obama and India PM Manmohan Singh was about Kashmir.

There was considerable speculation before Obama's visit about how the American president would deal with the thorny issue of Kashmir, aka "The K Word."

Though the two leaders may have hoped to avoid public discussion of Kashmir, Scott Wilson of The Washington Post made it the first question of the short press conference Singh and Obama held in New Delhi.

Even so, Singh was unwilling to utter the word "Kashmir" in answering the question.

"We are committed to engage Pakistan," Singh said. "We are committed to resolve all outstanding issues between our two countries, including the word 'K' -- we're not afraid of that. But it is our request that you cannot simultaneously be talking and at the same time the terror machine is as active as ever before."

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 15:10:20 2010 No.1312958

An unusual view of a Marine firefight in Helmand

For an extended look at a Marine firefight in Helmand, check out the above clip produced for APTN by South African cameraman Adil Bradlow.

Adil fastened cameras to the stock of the Marine rifles to produce some unusual perspectives on the firefight.

You can see more of Adil's work in Afghanistan, and around the world, here at his YouTube page.

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 15:10:20 2010 No.1312961

WASHINGTON — As the Obama administration presses ahead with the health care law, officials are bracing for the possibility that a federal judge in Virginia will soon reject its central provision as unconstitutional and, in the worst case for the White House, halt its enforcement until higher courts can rule.

The judge, Henry E. Hudson of Federal District Court in Richmond, has promised to rule by the end of the year on the constitutionality of the law’s requirement that most Americans obtain insurance, which does not take effect until 2014.

Although administration officials remain confident that it is constitutionally valid to compel people to obtain health insurance, they also acknowledge that Judge Hudson’s preliminary opinions and comments could presage the first ruling against the law.

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 15:11:20 2010 No.1312963

“He’s asked a number of questions that express skepticism,” said one administration official who is examining whether a ruling against part of the law would raise questions about whether other provisions would automatically collapse. “We have been trying to think through that set of questions,” said the official, who insisted on anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the case freely.

While many newly empowered Republican lawmakers have vowed to repeal the health care law in Congress, a more immediate threat may rest in the federal courts in cases brought by Republican officials in dozens of states. Not only would an adverse ruling confuse Americans and attack the law’s underpinnings, it could frustrate the steps hospitals, insurers and government agencies are taking to carry out the law.

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 15:12:20 2010 No.1312964

“Any ruling against the act creates another P.R. problem for the Democrats, who need to resell the law to insured Americans,” said Jonathan Oberlander, a University of North Carolina political scientist, who wrote in The New England Journal of Medicine last week that such a ruling “could add to health care reform’s legitimacy problem.”

So far, there has been only one ruling on the merits among nearly two dozen legal challenges to the health care act. Last month, a federal district judge in Michigan upheld the law. But another judge, Roger Vinson of Federal District Court in Pensacola, Fla., has joined Judge Hudson in writing preliminary opinions that seemingly accept key arguments made by state officials challenging the law.

Unlike the judge in Michigan, who was appointed by President Bill Clinton, both Judge Hudson and Judge Vinson were appointed by Republican presidents.

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Anonymous Fri Nov 26 15:13:20 2010 No.1312966

“We are not operating under the assumption that those two judges are inevitably going to rule against us,” the administration official said. “But of course we’re planning for the possibility that judges will reach different conclusions.”

The novel question before the courts is whether the government can require citizens to buy a commercial product like health insurance. Because the Supreme Court has said the commerce clause of the Constitution allows Congress to regulate “activities that substantially affect interstate commerce,” the judges must decide whether the failure to obtain insurance can be defined as an “activity.”

Lawyers on both sides expect the issue eventually to be decided by the Supreme Court. But the appellate path to that decision could take two years. In the meantime, any district court judge who rules against the law would have to decide whether to block enforcement of one or more of its provisions, potentially creating bureaucratic chaos.

He thinks reports actually do anything Anonymous Fri Nov 26 15:14:20 2010 No.1312969

>>1312965
Such a decision would prompt a flurry of appeals, as the Justice Department almost certainly would ask the judge and then the appellate courts to stay, or delay, the injunction pending the outcome of higher court rulings.

Administration officials, as well as some lawyers for the plaintiffs, agree that Judge Hudson seems unlikely, based on his comments from the bench, to enjoin the entire law. The judge volunteered at a hearing last month that his courtroom was “just one brief stop on the way to the Supreme Court.”

If he does not enjoin the law, the immediate impact of a finding against the insurance mandate would be limited because that provision, and others that might fall with it, do not take effect for more than three years.

Virginia’s attorney general, Kenneth T. Cuccinelli II, a Republican who filed the Richmond lawsuit, argues that if Judge Hudson rejects the insurance requirement he should instantly invalidate the entire act on a nationwide basis.

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 15:15:20 2010 No.1312971

Mr. Cuccinelli and the plaintiffs in the Florida case, who include attorneys general or governors from 20 states, have emphasized that Congressional bill writers did not include a “severability clause” that would explicitly protect other parts of the sprawling law if certain provisions were struck down.

An earlier version of the legislation, which passed the House last November, included severability language. But that clause did not make it into the Senate version, which ultimately became law. A Democratic aide who helped write the bill characterized the omission as an oversight.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 15:15:20 2010 No.1312972 if bro-p is still checking in http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/wishlist/2R8MPS1QRC9M8

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 15:16:20 2010 No.1312975 >>1312969 Hey it can't hurt. I did lol at first when I thought I was being responded to though, so....you got me.

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 15:16:20 2010 No.1312978

The Justice Department, which represents the Obama administration, acknowledges that several of the law’s central provisions, like the requirement that insurers cover those with pre-existing conditions, cannot work unless both the healthy and the unhealthy are mandated to have insurance. Otherwise, consumers could simply buy coverage when they needed treatment, causing the insurance market to “implode,” the federal government asserts.

The administration argues that other key provisions do not depend on the insurance mandate. Those provisions include establishing health insurance exchanges, subsidizing premiums through tax credits and expanding Medicaid eligibility, all scheduled for 2014.

Nor, administration officials said, would an adverse ruling necessarily undermine certain insurance regulations that recently took effect, like the requirement that insurers cover children younger than 26 on their parents’ policies.

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 15:17:20 2010 No.1312980

In a hearing last month, Judge Hudson remarked on the difficulty of determining Congress’s intent regarding a law with hundreds of disparate provisions. “This bill has more moving parts than a Swiss watch,” he said.

Lawyers for Virginia have sought to turn one of the federal government’s arguments on its head. They note that the health law explicitly refers to the insurance requirement as “an essential part” of the act’s regulatory scheme, and that Justice Department lawyers — in pressing their point that the law permissibly regulates commerce — have called it the “linchpin.”

If it is so essential, Virginia’s lawyers have asked, why should a judge believe that Congress intended for the rest of the act to stand without it?

Any illusion that the cases are not highly politicized was lost when Republican leaders raced this month to file friend-of-the-court briefs in Pensacola, and Democrats responded with briefs from state legislators and supportive economists. Among the Republicans intervening in the case are Representative John A. Boehner of Ohio, the future speaker; 32 United States senators; and Gov. Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota, a

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 15:18:20 2010 No.1312987

What we need now is another Jonathan Swift.
Most people know Swift as the author of “Gulliver’s Travels.” But recent events have me thinking of his 1729 essay “A Modest Proposal,” in which he observed the dire poverty of the Irish, and offered a solution: sell the children as food. “I grant this food will be somewhat dear,” he admitted, but this would make it “very proper for landlords, who, as they have already devoured most of the parents, seem to have the best title to the children.”

O.K., these days it’s not the landlords, it’s the bankers — and they’re just impoverishing the populace, not eating it. But only a satirist — and one with a very savage pen — could do justice to what’s happening to Ireland now.

The Irish story began with a genuine economic miracle. But eventually this gave way to a speculative frenzy driven by runaway banks and real estate developers, all in a cozy relationship with leading politicians. The frenzy was financed with huge borrowing on the part of Irish banks, largely from banks in other European nations.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 15:18:20 2010 No.1312988 Dude at least sage, all you're doing is bumping a wishlist thread

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 15:19:20 2010 No.1312989

Then the bubble burst, and those banks faced huge losses. You might have expected those who lent money to the banks to share in the losses. After all, they were consenting adults, and if they failed to understand the risks they were taking that was nobody’s fault but their own. But, no, the Irish government stepped in to guarantee the banks’ debt, turning private losses into public obligations.

Before the bank bust, Ireland had little public debt. But with taxpayers suddenly on the hook for gigantic bank losses, even as revenues plunged, the nation’s creditworthiness was put in doubt. So Ireland tried to reassure the markets with a harsh program of spending cuts.

Step back for a minute and think about that. These debts were incurred, not to pay for public programs, but by private wheeler-dealers seeking nothing but their own profit. Yet ordinary Irish citizens are now bearing the burden of those debts.

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 15:19:20 2010 No.1312994

Step back for a minute and think about that. These debts were incurred, not to pay for public programs, but by private wheeler-dealers seeking nothing but their own profit. Yet ordinary Irish citizens are now bearing the burden of those debts.

Or to be more accurate, they’re bearing a burden much larger than the debt — because those spending cuts have caused a severe recession so that in addition to taking on the banks’ debts, the Irish are suffering from plunging incomes and high unemployment.

But there is no alternative, say the serious people: all of this is necessary to restore confidence.

Strange to say, however, confidence is not improving. On the contrary: investors have noticed that all those austerity measures are depressing the Irish economy — and are fleeing Irish debt because of that economic weakness.

Now what? Last weekend Ireland and its neighbors put together what has been widely described as a “bailout.” But what really happened was that the Irish government promised to impose even more pain, in return for a credit line — a credit line that would presumably give Ireland more time to, um, restore confidence. Markets, understandably, were not impressed: interest rates on Irish bonds have risen even further.

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 15:21:20 2010 No.1313001

Does it really have to be this way?

In early 2009, a joke was making the rounds: “What’s the difference between Iceland and Ireland? Answer: One letter and about six months.” This was supposed to be gallows humor. No matter how bad the Irish situation, it couldn’t be compared with the utter disaster that was Iceland.

But at this point Iceland seems, if anything, to be doing better than its near-namesake. Its economic slump was no deeper than Ireland’s, its job losses were less severe and it seems better positioned for recovery. In fact, investors now appear to consider Iceland’s debt safer than Ireland’s. How is that possible?

Part of the answer is that Iceland let foreign lenders to its runaway banks pay the price of their poor judgment, rather than putting its own taxpayers on the line to guarantee bad private debts. As the International Monetary Fund notes — approvingly! — “private sector bankruptcies have led to a marked decline in external debt.” Meanwhile, Iceland helped avoid a financial panic in part by imposing temporary capital controls — that is, by limiting the ability of residents to pull funds out of the country.

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 15:22:20 2010 No.1313007

And Iceland has also benefited from the fact that, unlike Ireland, it still has its own currency; devaluation of the krona, which has made Iceland’s exports more competitive, has been an important factor in limiting the depth of Iceland’s slump.

None of these heterodox options are available to Ireland, say the wise heads. Ireland, they say, must continue to inflict pain on its citizens — because to do anything else would fatally undermine confidence.

But Ireland is now in its third year of austerity, and confidence just keeps draining away. And you have to wonder what it will take for serious people to realize that punishing the populace for the bankers’ sins is worse than a crime; it’s a mistake.

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 15:24:20 2010 No.1313015

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One hundred years ago, Leo Tolstoy lay dying at a train station in southern Russia. Journalists, acolytes and newsreel photographers gathered for the passing of the great prophet. Between 3:30 and 5:30 on that freezing November morning, Tolstoy’s wife stood on the porch outside his death chamber because his acolytes would not let her in. At one point she begged them to at least admit her into an anteroom so that the photographers would get the impression she was being allowed to see her husband on his final day.

There are many reasons to think about Tolstoy on the centennial of his death. Among them: his ability to see. Tolstoy had an almost superhuman ability to perceive reality.

As a young man, he was both sensually and spiritually acute. He drank, gambled and went off in search of sensations and adventures. But he also experienced piercing religious crises.

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As a soldier, he conceived “a stupendous idea, to the realization of which I feel capable of dedicating my whole life. The idea is the founding of a new religion corresponding to the present development of mankind: the religion of Christ purged of dogmas and mysticism.”

But when he sat down to write his great novels, his dreams of saving mankind were bleached out by the vividness of the reality he saw around him. Readers often comment that the worlds created in those books are more vivid than the real world around them. With Olympian detachment and piercing directness, Tolstoy could describe a particular tablecloth, a particular moment in a particular battle, and the particular feeling in a girl’s heart before a ball.

He had his biases. In any Tolstoy story, the simple, rural characters are likely to be good and the urbane ones bad. But his ability to enter into and recreate the experiences of each of his characters overwhelms his generalizations.

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 15:27:20 2010 No.1313033

Isaiah Berlin famously argued that Tolstoy was a writer in search of Big Truths, but his ability to see reality in all its particulars destroyed the very theories he hoped to build. By entering directly into life in all its contradictions, he destroyed his own peace of mind.

As Tolstoy himself wrote, “The aim of an artist is not to solve a problem irrefutably, but to make people love life in all its countless, inexhaustible manifestations.”

But after “Anna Karenina,” that changed. He was overwhelmed by the pointlessness of existence. As his biographer A.N. Wilson surmises, he ran out of things to write about. He had consumed the material of his life.

So he gave up big novels and became a holy man. Fulfilling his early ambition, he created his own religion, which rejected the Jesus story but embraced the teachings of Jesus. He embraced simplicity, poverty, vegetarianism, abstinence, poverty and pacifism. He dressed like a peasant. He wrote religious tracts to attract people to the simple, pure life.

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 15:28:20 2010 No.1313035

Many contemporary readers like the novel-writing Tolstoy but regard the holy man as a semi-crackpot. But he was still Tolstoy, and his later writings were still brilliant. Moreover, he inspired a worldwide movement, deeply influencing Gandhi among many others. He emerged as the Russian government’s most potent critic — the one the czar didn’t dare imprison.

What had changed, though, was his ability to see. Now a crusader instead of an observer, he was absurd as often as he was brilliant. He went slumming with the peasantry, making everybody feel uncomfortable. He’d try to mow the grass (badly), make shoes (worse), and then he’d return to his mansion for dinner. He was the first trust-fund hippie. He seemed to lose perspective about himself: “I alone understand the doctrine of Jesus.”

There were many consistencies running through Tolstoy’s life, but there were also two phases: first, the novelist; then, the crusader. And each of these activities called forth its own way of seeing.

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 15:29:20 2010 No.1313038

As a novelist, Tolstoy was an unsurpassed observer. But he found that life unfulfilling. As he set out to improve the world, his ability to perceive it deteriorated. Instead of conforming his ideas to the particularities of existence, he conformed his perception of reality to his vision for the world. He preached universal love but seemed oblivious to the violence he was doing to his family.

In middle age, it was as a novelist that Tolstoy achieved his most lasting influence. After all, description is prescription. If you can get people to see the world as you do, you have unwittingly framed every subsequent choice.

But public spirited, he also wanted to heal the world directly. Tolstoy devoted himself to activism and spiritual improvement — and paid the mental price. After all, most historical leaders write pallid memoirs not because they are hiding the truth but because they’ve been engaged in an activity that makes it impossible for them to see it clearly. Activism is admirable, necessary and self-undermining — the more passionate, the more self-blinding.

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Anonymous Fri Nov 26 15:35:20 2010 No.1313065

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At the trial of indictments charging the defendants with armed assault with intent to murder on a theory of joint venture, the judge erred in failing to instruct the jury that they were required to find that each defendant knew before the shooting that an accomplice had a gun; moreover, this error was not rendered harmless by the fact that the judge correctly charged the jury on joint venture liability for carrying a firearm, where that charge did not elaborate as to precisely when the

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Anonymous Fri Nov 26 18:41:20 2010 No.1313429

In return, Dr. Steiner on Monday will grant Ms. Black a waiver from the state law requiring the chancellor to have certain education credentials that Ms. Black, the chairwoman of Hearst Magazines, lacks.

Dr. Steiner had expressed reservations about granting Ms. Black an exemption and had made the appointment of a chief academic officer a condition for considering her nomination.

The move is a major concession from Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg, who typically resists any intrusion into his management of city agencies.

The Bloomberg administration did not dispute the details of the agreement, but refused to comment.

But in a letter from Mr. Bloomberg to Mr. Steiner released by the city’s Education Department, the mayor said Ms. Black’s the decision to make Polakow-Suransky her top deputy reflected her strong leadership skills.

Ms. Black, Mr. Bloomberg said, understands that a leader’s role is to “hire the best people, give them the room to innovate and hold them accountable for success.”

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 18:41:20 2010 No.1313433

“ So who then will be the sock puppet? Probably both.”

— Bronx Teacher
Mayor and State Reach Deal to Pave Way for Schools Chief

“ So Ms. Black is qualified to be Chancellor because she spent one day as "Principal for a Day"? Reminds me of someone who thought she could handle U.S. foreign policy because she can see Russia from her house.”

— Salome
For One Day, the Chancellor Pick Was a Principal

“ I've no desire to see it if all it is to be is a floating casino. That would have all the glamor of an aging soprano singing in a cheap dance hall as she lingered long past her prime.”

— George
Plan to Bring Ship to West Side Hits Snag

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 18:42:20 2010 No.1313435

But another New York City resident who is no stranger to controversial appointments on Wednesday urged the mayor to compromise: Gov. David A. Paterson.

Speaking on “The John Gambling Show” on WOR-AM (710), Mr. Paterson said that an advisory panel selected by David M. Steiner, the state education commissioner, had acted properly by voting on Tuesday to reject Ms. Black’s request for a waiver.

She needs such a waiver from Dr. Steiner because she lacks the education credentials required by state law to be in charge of the city’s schools. Ms. Black is the chairwoman of Hearst Magazines.

But Mr. Paterson also described as “very fair” a compromise put forth by Dr. Steiner that would grant the waiver, as long as an educator was appointed to a new post of chief academic officer that would oversee teaching, learning and accountability.

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 18:43:20 2010 No.1313436

“She should not sit on the panel,” said Mr. Adams, who represents Brooklyn. “The mayor has great influence on her vote.”

Ms. Mirrer did not immediately respond to an e-mail message on Monday seeking comment.

Ms. Mirrer was appointed last week to an eight-member panel that will weigh whether the mayor’s nominee for chancellor, Cathleen P. Black, should be exempted from a state law requiring that the leader of the city’s school system have certain educational credentials. Ms. Black, a magazine executive, lacks those credentials.

However, Ms. Mirrer has close ties to Mr. Bloomberg, who is lobbying for Ms. Black to obtain the exemption. Among other things, she runs the New-York Historical Society, a museum to which Mr. Bloomberg has personally donated nearly $500,000, and she has lobbied the Bloomberg administration on behalf of the museum. She also won an award from Mr. Bloomberg two years ago and was honored at Gracie Mansion.

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 18:44:20 2010 No.1313438

Mr. Adams is a longtime critic of mayoral control of schools in New York City —and at times a mayoral foe — but he said his worries about Ms. Mirrer are unrelated to those objections.

He faulted Ms. Mirrer for not disclosing her close ties to Mr. Bloomberg, and the state’s education commissioner, David M. Steiner, for not asking about them.

Mr. Adams has introduced legislation that would allow the State Legislature to reject a New York City schools chancellor nominee who lacks the educational background required by state law.

The bill’s prospects are unknown — it would have to pass in the Senate and the Assembly and be signed by the governor — but Mr. Adams said that at least 10 of his Senate colleagues have asked to become co-sponsors.

A spokesman for Dr. Steiner could not be reached for comment.

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 18:45:20 2010 No.1313440

Louise Mirrer’s connections to New York City’s billionaire mayor are varied, longstanding and deep — they are personal, as well as professional.

But it does not appear that Ms. Mirrer disclosed those ties when she was selected to serve on a panel that is to evaluate Mr. Bloomberg’s choice for the next schools chancellor, Cathleen P. Black.

In an interview Sunday, Ms. Mirrer indicated that she did not discuss her links to the mayor when she was appointed to the eight-member panel that will recommend whether to grant Ms. Black a waiver from a state law requiring strict educational requirements (which Ms. Black lacks).

“If I had something I thought I should disclose, I would have disclosed it,” Ms. Mirrer said, adding that her ties to the mayor were irrelevant to her work on the panel.

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 18:45:20 2010 No.1313442

Nor does it appear that the state official who appointed Ms. Mirrer to the panel, David M. Steiner, the state education commissioner, asked members of the panel to disclose any ties to Mr. Bloomberg.

Asked repeatedly if Dr. Steiner had requested information about ties between members of the panel and the mayor’s office, a spokesman, Tom Dunn, refused to answer.

At least three members of the panel chosen by Dr. Steiner have previously worked for the Bloomberg administration in the department of education — a credential Dr. Steiner has called “a plus” in evaluating Ms. Black.

Ms. Mirrer, however, stands out, because the institution she runs, the New-York Historical Society, has lobbied the Bloomberg administration in recent years, city records show, and has received large annual donations from the mayor, ranging from $50,000 to $100,000.

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 18:46:20 2010 No.1313444

In 2008, Ms. Mirrer was honored by Mr. Bloomberg at Gracie Mansion for helping disabled visitors experience the museum through new technology. Mr. Bloomberg has also raised significant amounts of money for a program Ms. Mirrer oversees as chairwoman: the New York City Leadership Academy, which trains school principals.

Those links have raised eyebrows — and questions about her objectivity, especially as the mayor and his aides wage an aggressive campaign to build support for Ms. Black among business leaders, academics and elected officials.

“The odds of Ms. Mirrer advising against a waiver for Cathie Black is pretty darn small,” said Gene Russianoff, senior lawyer for the New York Public Interest Research Group, a government watchdog.

Ms. Mirrer, who is also a vice chancellor at the City University of New York, rejected those concerns and insisted that she would be an impartial panel member, saying that she would examine Ms. Black, not Mr. Bloomberg.

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Anonymous Fri Nov 26 18:47:20 2010 No.1313450

“I think it’s not about the mayor,” she said. “I don’t think that is relevant.”

“If I had a relationship with Cathie Black, that would be different,” she said. “I have no relationship with her.”

“With mayoral control, it’s up to the mayor to propose a candidate,” Ms. Mirrer added. “I am being asked about a candidate.”

Asked whether her ties to the mayor could influence her judgment about Ms. Black — or create the appearance of influence — Ms. Mirrer said, “I disagree with that.”

“I just think it’s not the issue,” she said.

Mr. Dunn, the spokesman for Dr. Steiner, said Ms. Mirrer was chosen because of her roles at the museum and at CUNY. Dr. Steiner, he said, “felt it was important that someone with her perspective be on the panel.” (Dr. Steiner will ultimately make the decision about a waiver for Ms. Black; the panel’s role is advisory.)

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 18:48:20 2010 No.1313452

However, several government watchdogs and state lawmakers have argued that Dr. Steiner erred by appointing panelists who rely on the mayor for financing or have worked for him in the past.

“The appearance here is poor,” Mr. Russianoff said. “Ms. Mirrer’s organization relies on the mayor’s personal philanthropy and city government’s discretion. Whatever the panel recommends will be subject to criticism because of Steiner’s failure to appoint a majority of members without substantial ties to the Bloomberg administration.”

He added, “Steiner is doing the mayor no favor here in the composition for the advisory panel on Cathie Black.”

Susan Lerner, the executive director of Common Cause New York, another government watchdog, acknowledged that finding education experts in New York City with no connections to Mr. Bloomberg would be challenging.

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Anonymous Fri Nov 26 18:49:20 2010 No.1313454

But she asked why Dr. Steiner did not appoint more experts from outside New York City, beyond the reach of Mr. Bloomberg’s money and muscle.

“There are real questions about whether this is an objective process,” Ms. Lerner said, “or whether it has been compromised by the selection process” of the panel’s members.

“Is it legitimate to say, is this tilted, is there a thumb on the scale — not a super heavy one, but a thumb on the scale?” Ms. Lerner asked, and then answered her own question. “Yes.”

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 18:50:20 2010 No.1313457

A hot issue has trickled down the steps of City Hall in recent years and washed through the streets of New York City, borough by borough. It is not hard to spot: Many of its standard bearers are awash in bright colors, and every one of them is powerful enough to reroute a minivan — at least in theory.

Over the last four years, a concerted effort from the Bloomberg administration and the City Council has led to the laying of 250 miles of bike lanes throughout the city, meant to encourage the use of bicycles for transportation and commuting.

There are some New Yorkers who use those lanes every morning to ride back and forth from the building from which they have been heavily promoted: City Hall.

“I remember when I was the only one,” said Lisa Kaplan, the chief of staff to Councilwoman Rosie Mendez, who has been biking to work for nearly 30 years. “Now I have to watch out for other bicyclists.”

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Anonymous Fri Nov 26 19:03:20 2010 No.1313494

Indeed, a bike lane on Centre Street provides easy access to City Hall, and a bike rack on the building’s grounds offers a secure place to park.

But Ms. Kaplan shuns the rack in favor of a spot under some scaffolding nearby. (You never know when it might rain, she notes.) She says the group of government workers who bike to work is diverse in age and occupation, and some come from as far as the Bronx.

“The fact that I say I’ve been doing it 30 years makes you aware that I’m not 25,” she added. “I’m 60.”

Rafael Perez, a 44-year-old sergeant-at-arms at City Hall, has been riding his 21-speed bike to work every day from Williamsburg, Brooklyn, for about two years.

“It takes 22 minutes,” he said. “The subway was getting very crowded. So I started riding once a week, and I realized my commute was shorter by bike than by train.”

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 19:04:20 2010 No.1313495

Mr. Perez, a powerfully built man who has been described as the City Hall “bouncer,” rides to work year round, as long as it is not raining when he sets out in the morning.

“I don’t like to get to work all soggy,” he said. He does use the City Hall bike rack.

But even snow does not stop some City Hall workers from charging downtown on two wheels.

“I would like to point out that last winter they did an excellent job plowing the bike path,” said Gary Roth, a senior policy analyst at the Taxi and Limousine Commission, who scoots down the bike path along the West Side Highway every morning from his home in Chelsea.

“I like bike lanes — I love bike lanes!” Mr. Roth said, speaking to a reporter on a cellphone borrowed from his boss, David Yassky, who supports bike lanes.

When Mr. Yassky was a member of the New York City Council, he wrote a bill that made it easier for bicycle commuters to par

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 19:05:20 2010 No.1313496

Bike advocates would like to keep the Upper East Side from becoming a kind of Waterloo for protected bicycle lanes.

So along with riders and elected officials from the Upper East Side and East Harlem, they gathered in front of City Hall on Wednesday to demand that the city extend protected bike lanes from 34th Street to 125th Street on First and Second Avenues.

The city’s handling of the East Side lanes has been a source of frustration for neighborhood cyclists since June, when the Transportation Department abruptly altered its plan to build physically separated bicycle lanes from Houston Street to 125th Street, instead running them only as far north as 34th Street. The department has insisted that the lanes have simply been delayed and that they will be extended in 2011, but outcry from uptown cyclists was swift, and many remain skeptical that the city will return to the area.

The tussle represents a rare locus of conflict between the city and bike advocates, who have seen many of their long-dreamed-of plans realized under the Bloomberg administration.

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 19:05:20 2010 No.1313497

Since June, Transportation Alternatives has gathered about 2,500 handwritten letters addressed to Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg from lane supporters at community events on the East Side. The weighty, ribbon-wrapped stack of those letters figured prominently in Wednesday’s rally, as it was passed between speakers and the crowd before being delivered to the mayor.

The point of the rally was to call on the city “to finish what they started,” said Assemblyman Brian Kavanagh. “The city of New York has chosen not to complete the job,” he added, to the detriment of uptown bike riders and pedestrians alike.

The crowd of about 40 was organized by Transportation Alternatives and included a handful of speakers who argued for the lanes on the basis of pedestrian and cyclist safety, neighborhood health and simple fairness.

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 19:06:20 2010 No.1313500

Along Prospect Park West on Thursday morning, there was much ado about a green stripe of paint.

Before most residents had to be at work, dueling protests between supporters and opponents of the boulevard’s new separated bike lane massed in rival camps, hoisting signs and chanting slogans. If it wasn’t quite a merry war — each group was far too polite, and there were far too many cameras blazing — the close proximity of the two parties provided ample theater.

A steady drumbeat of media attention set the stage for what appeared to be the largest gathering of opponents to a bike lane yet. The rally attracted mostly those who lived in the immediate vicinity of the Prospect Park West bike lane, which has been a source of neighborhood controversy since it was installed over the summer. The protest dwarfed a similar one last week in Manhattan over new lanes along First and Second Avenues.

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Anonymous Fri Nov 26 19:06:20 2010 No.1313504

“Things have come to a critical pass,” said Lois Carswell, one of the organizers. City officials, she said, “have already declared it a success” before any review could be done. She said she hoped her protest would help encourage an “impartial” evaluation of the lane, which is still in a trial phase.

Before the event, Ms. Carswell arranged signs on blue paper with pre-written slogans to hand out to opponents. “Oh good!” she said as she saw Alfred Ingegno, 75, arrive. “Someone with a homemade sign.”

Mr. Ingegno’s sign read: “End the Vandalism of PPW.”

While some claimed the lane was unnecessary given the presence of a bike path inside the park, others opposed it on aesthetic grounds. “Extraordinarily ugly” is how Robert Linn, a 31-year resident of Prospect Park West, described the green and yellow paint and plastic barriers. “It looks like the entrance to the Lincoln Tunnel.”

But those who would like to see the street rolled back to its previous form — restored traffic patterns, no big green bike lane — found themselves vastly outnumbered by cyclists and other bike lane supporters who came from nearby and around the city to guard their gains. If roughly 50 to 70 came to protest the lane, at least 150 to 200 came to support it. (Organizers of the rally in support of the lane put their numbers at around 350.)

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 19:07:20 2010 No.1313505

“We don’t want to have to be out here to advocate for something that’s already done,” said Eric McClure, a Park Slope resident and one of the organizers of the counter-protest, which cannily began at 8 a.m., a half-hour earlier than the opposition. But, he said, making sure the lane stays is as important as getting it there in the first place.

The anti-lane protest began at 8:30 sharp, as scheduled. “It’s insane, move this lane,” went one chant.

“Do you feel safer?” megaphoned Louise Hainline, the president of Neighbors for a Better Bike Lane, the group that organized the protest.

“No!” came the reply.

The two groups started in separate areas, but soon joined up at the corner of Prospect Park West and Carroll Street, where the police had erected loose pens of wooden barriers about 30 feet apart along the sidewalk between the park and the bike lane. With megaphones, each gathering chanted among themselves and at their antagonists.

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Anonymous Fri Nov 26 19:08:20 2010 No.1313508

“Ride in the park!” opponents said.

“We want safe streets!” supporters responded, drowning them out.

After a few minutes, many of the cyclists crossed the impromptu stage to engage more directly with the lane opponents, filling the lane with bikes and creating the kind of two-wheeled traffic jam usually associated with Copenhagen. Police calmly encouraged riders to keep moving when they stopped at the opposing barricade to debate the issue.

Indeed, the hue and cry over the lane in recent weeks led local elected officials and the community board to solicit public opinion via an Web survey. “I saw that a lot of people had strong feelings,” said City Councilman Brad Lander, a long-time supporter of the bike lane whose district includes Prospect Park. The survey, he said, was a way for people to voice their feelings while the transportation department evaluates whether or not the lane has been a successful addition to the neighborhood. “It’s a study period,” he said.

By 8:50, many of the cyclists had dispersed — “We are late for work,” some chanted — and both rallies were over a little after 9.

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 19:08:20 2010 No.1313509

The Bloomberg administration announced on Tuesday that it will soon make thousands of bicycles available to rent throughout New York City — a nimble, novel form of mass transit modeled after programs that have already become mainstream in cities like Washington and Paris.

Each bicycle must have a working bell, a “transparent, porous” basket, an onboard GPS unit, a three-speed gear system, and front and rear lights that switch on automatically whenever the bicycle is in motion, according to documents (registration required) released by the city on Tuesday.

Officials also want the bicycles, which must have a “one size fits all” design, to be resistant to rust, scratches and graffiti, perhaps in hope of warding off a subway-style tagging epidemic.

The program could begin as early as April 2012; the city hopes the initial stage will include about 10,000 bikes. A two-month test of the program, with at least 30 bicycle kiosks, could occur as early as next summer, the documents said.

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 19:09:20 2010 No.1313511

The bikes would be placed at hundreds of automated kiosks in at least two boroughs, and would be available for rental 24 hours a day, according to the documents. A Web site would be created that would allow users to check on the bikes’ availability at specific locations in real time; the database would also be accessible via mobile phones.

Riders would sign up for a daily, weekly or annual membership, and subscribers would be able to take an unlimited number of free 30-minute rides on the bikes, according to the documents. (Longer trips would cost more.)

The subscriptions would be purchased with debit or credit cards, and the latter could double as a membership fob. Late fees would be levied for bicycles not returned within 24 hours.

The kiosks would be situated in parks and on streets and sidewalks, raising the possibility that parking spaces would be removed throughout the city to make room for the space-age bike racks.

The city’s Department of Transportation is asking companies to submit proposals for operating the program. Officials want the winning company to cover all the costs of the program and share with the city any revenue produced from sponsorships and advertising.

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 19:11:20 2010 No.1313515

City officials, in pitching the idea to companies, cited an exhaustive proposal issued in 2009 by the Department of City Planning. That study envisioned an initial rollout of about 10,000 bikes that could be placed at 600 automated kiosks below Central Park in Manhattan and in areas of Downtown Brooklyn, with a majority of bikes available in dense business districts.

The bike-sharing initiative would make New York the latest American city to start an experiment with the communal bikes. Denver and Minneapolis began similar programs this year, and bike-share networks are planned in Boston, Miami and the San Francisco Bay area.

The city’s Transportation Department was reticent to comment on the proposal on Monday evening, and Janette Sadik-Khan, the transportation commissioner, declined a request for an interview.

But on Tuesday, the department issued a statement promoting the program as an “environmental, congestion-reducing transportation option for New Yorkers.”

“New York’s ideal geography, high residential and commercial density and growing bike infrastructure make it the perfect opti

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 19:12:20 2010 No.1313517

Is a white bike always a ghost bike?

That’s the question posed by the appearance several months ago of a white bicycle chained to a city rack on 168th Street in Washington Heights. At first, a helmet hung from the handlebars of the child-size BMX bike, seemingly indicating the site of a tragedy (who leaves a helmet unsecured on a bike?). That the helmet remained there for more than two weeks before it disappeared pointed to the bike’s receiving more than the usual amount of deference from would-be thieves. It also caught the eye of some people in the neighborhood.

“I noticed that little bike,” said Ellen Belcher, a volunteer with the New York City Street Memorial Project, which has been installing all-white bikes — so-called ghost bikes — to designate the scenes of cyclist deaths around the city since 2007. (The first ghost bike appeared in New York in the summer of 2005.)

“My partner and I were riding by and he said, ‘Is that a ghost bike?’ ” The couple, who live a few blocks to the north, stopped to make a closer inspection and determined that it was not one of the project’s bikes.

Ms. Belcher later looked online for any information about an accident at that corner, and she came up dry. “But often crashes don’t get reported in the news,” she said.

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 19:13:20 2010 No.1313518

That is a dangerous corner — I ride through it all the time,” she added, referring to the intersection where Broadway meets Saint Nicholas at 168th Street. Ambulances come and go from the emergency room of NewYork-Presbyterian, and there is heavy foot traffic during the day. In the traffic island between the avenues, young roller skaters, skateboarders and BMX bikers can be found performing tricks around and on top of the two-foot-high stone edge of a ventilation area.

“In another city, that could have been a ghost bike,” said Leah Todd, another of the project’s volunteers and its spokeswoman. “It’s not installed in a way that we would have installed it.” She said their memorials include a plaque with the person’s name, age, date of the crash “and something like Rest in Peace,” and they prefer to disable the bike completely, to paint all the components white, and to lock it to a street sign rather than take up space on a bike rack. (A guide to installing can be found on the project’s Web site.)

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 19:14:20 2010 No.1313519

“But had I been told it was in Colorado, I certainly would have thought it was a ghost bike,” she said. “Since it’s just painted white, it’s hard to tell what is what. We certainly don’t hold a patent on the idea.”

Indeed, from the first memorial, installed in St. Louis in 2003, the idea has spread to other cities around the world. “In the past year, ghost bikes have been spotted in Oxford, Brighton, York and across London,” the BBC reported in June. White bikes commemorate crashes and fatalities on streets across Europe, from Austria to Lithuania, and have even been seen in Brazil.

As local awareness of the idea increases, more ghost bikes have appeared independently around New York. “Several bikes have been installed by family or friends rather than our group, and that happens more frequently as time goes on,” Ms. Todd said, adding that she knew of five so far.

Yet the origin of the little BMX bike in Washington Heights remains a mystery.

Could it be that the ghostly paint job was simply done out of fashion, a desire for a white bicycle? After all, Specialized now markets an entirely color-free track bike, and at least one rider has put together an all-white Trek from various components. “I’ve noticed people riding with a lot of white components,” Ms. Belcher said. “I guess that’s part of the simplicity aspect of fixed-gear bikes.”

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 19:15:20 2010 No.1313522

notion.

The only place a thief would have found a BMX ghost bike, she said, was in Brooklyn, where several children have been killed, including an 8-year-old boy killed by a van on Livingston Street in September. And none of those have been removed.

About 10 memorials of the 58 have disappeared, Ms. Todd said, and while some were removed by the city or nearby business owners, it is possible that others were stolen. More common, Ms. Belcher said, is for the wheels to be stolen, particularly on Midtown ghost bikes.

Although the bike on 168th has not moved from its place for months, a development this week makes it seem less likely to be a memorial. Another item appeared with it, locked to the same heavy-duty chain: a blue hospital walker.

But whoever chained together the blue walker and the white bike could not be located for comment.

Any tips on this or other New York bicycle mysteries? Comment below.

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 19:16:20 2010 No.1313524

When the city adopted a new law to allow bicycle access to office buildings — under certain conditions — advocates celebrated the move as a positive — if imperfect — step toward even greater bicycle commuting.

But amid the discussion of the pros and cons of having bikes in freight elevators, cubicles or the lobbies of buildings, another law requiring parking garages to make space for bikes quietly went into effect. Across the city, a new line — or often, a new sign — has appeared to list the rates charged for daily or monthly bicycle parkers.

The law affects 885 parking garages, which must provide one bike space for every 10 cars up to 200 spaces, and then one bike for every 100 car spaces above 200. The Department of Consumer Affairs has been inspecting lots around the city to see that they are both accepting bikes and providing the required racks.

Bicycles Only, an anonymous bike enthusiast and Midtown office worker, was one rider keen on taking advantage of the new spaces in a garage downstairs from his office. “I had checked it years before and they didn’t accept bikes,” he said in a phone interview.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 19:16:20 2010 No.1313525 >>1313518 >That is a dangerous corner — I ride through it all the time I lol'd.

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 19:19:20 2010 No.1313530

Bicycles Only, an anonymous bike enthusiast and Midtown office worker, was one rider keen on taking advantage of the new spaces in a garage downstairs from his office. “I had checked it years before and they didn’t accept bikes,” he said in a phone interview.

But when he checked again in November, shortly after the new law went into force, there were still no spots for bikes.

After a complaint to the Department of Consumer Affairs revealed that the garage had been inspected and found not to be in violation, he returned with a camera to document his experience.

“I’ve used cameras in that way before,” he said, mostly in connection with traffic difficulties while biking his son to school.

In this case, the tactic worked: the department reinspected the garage, finding a violation on the second try. “I have to hand it to them, now they’re really taking note,” he said of the department. “They seem to really want to do their job here and make sure the garages comply.”

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 19:20:20 2010 No.1313532 >>1313474 Thank you kind Anonymous! You and I are forever "We" to me!

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 19:21:20 2010 No.1313534

But his real agenda, he added, is to make sure the bicycle racks are added, which would physically replace some car spots. That way the garage owners will be forced to reckon with unrented bike parking spots and to compete on price. For the moment, there is little incentive not to charge a high rate for bike parking, since scaring away such customers means more spaces for cars.

As a result, rates vary wildly. Even in a small stretch of Midtown canvassed on Monday, there seemed to be no consistency in the pricing. An Icon Parking garage on 40th Street off Broadway advertised $6.43 for up to 24 hours or a monthly rate of $68.89 before sales tax. (Parking tax may not be charged on human-powered vehicles; instead, the standard sales tax of 8.875 percent applies, according to the city’s Department of Finance.)

Two blocks away, Central Parking on 38th Street posted rates of $175 per month or $15 for the day — nearly twice the cost of a monthly MetroCard. Over on Ninth Avenue and 38th, an outdoor Edison Park Fast lot took bikes for $5 a day and $50 for the month.

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 19:22:20 2010 No.1313535

For as long as there have been cyclists in the city, there have been pedestrians who have viewed them as a dangerous menace.

First, there were the “scorchers,” a breed of fast riders from the turn of the last century, denounced by carriage drivers, pedestrians and other cyclists.

Much more recently, there have been the delivery guys — they are almost all guys — who ride on the sidewalk, the commuters who run red lights and the two-wheeled “salmon” who roll against the flow of traffic, all fueling the perception that there is a dangerous culture of lawlessness among at least some of the city’s bike riders.

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 19:22:20 2010 No.1313537

“Right now, the bikes are running amok,” said Jack Brown of the Coalition Against Rogue Riding, a group formed last year. “It’s a flesh-and-bone-versus-metal issue, a too-many-close-calls-to-mention issue.”

Mr. Brown, who owned the Hi Ho Cyclery, a defunct bike shop on Avenue A, in the 1980s, acknowledges that “a bike does have a certain romantic quality to it,” but he sees scofflaw riders as “maniacal” and “narcissistic.”

Conflicts between riders and pedestrians have flared up across the city, but the most sustained objections to bad bike behavior have been in Manhattan. Cyclists who disobey traffic laws are the No. 1 complaint among residents of the Upper East Side, according to the police.

“It’s gotten worse,” said Bette Dewing, a local newspaper columnist. “I have a strong feeling that there’s too many bicycles.”

Nobody seems to keep reliable data on bicycle-pedestrian crashes, though two researchers at Hunter College analyzed data from 100 hospital emergency rooms across the nation and found evidence of at least 38,000

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 19:23:20 2010 No.1313539 I just got gifted "We" by OP I'm giving back to the next wishlist after this post. Suck it, spammer.

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 19:23:20 2010 No.1313540

such collisions between 1980 and 2009 (about 38,000 people die in car accidents each year). The researchers, Peter Tuckel and William Milczarski, found no discernible change over the nearly 30-year period studied.

Nancy Gruskin, a music educator in Westfield, N.J., started an organization to promote safe streets for pedestrians in memory of her husband, Stuart, who was killed last year in a collision with a cyclist riding the wrong way on a Midtown street.

“I understand that what happened to Stuart is very rare,” Ms. Gruskin said. “However, the potential is obviously so great.”

Ms. Gruskin and the Hunter researchers were scheduled to meet on Monday with Janette Sadik-Khan, the city’s transportation commissioner, to urge her to track bicycle-pedestrian accidents more carefully.

Through the first half of this year, the police issued 15,957 tickets to cyclists across the city, 13,632 of them for riding on the sidewalk. Critics like Ms. Dewing believe that is a small fraction of the violations, and urge more aggressive enforcement.

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 19:24:20 2010 No.1313542

That has been tried before. In 1996, the city raised fines to $100 from $40 for riding on the sidewalk, after a City Council member was punched in the face by a cyclist whom he told to get off the sidewalk. But to those who say they still encounter cyclists on the sidewalk daily, the heftier penalty appears not to have had the desired effect.

Thomas Bernardin, a tour guide who was knocked down by a rider on the sidewalk outside his West Village apartment in 2007, blames the curb cuts. Such ramps at many New York intersections, required by federal law since the 1970s to allow wheelchairs to roll easily onto sidewalks, also make it easier for cyclists to weave smoothly from street to sidewalk.

Another approach would focus on restaurants whose deliverers ride bikes the wrong way or on the sidewalk in their haste. A bill pending in the State Legislature would make a restaurant — not its riders — liable for violations.

Just as in the 1890s, pedestrians are not the only ones complaining. “If you’re riding the wrong way down the street, that’s always going to be dangerous for any bicyclists coming toward you,” Felix Salmon, a blogger and a regular rider, wrote this month on his blog on Reuters.com. “What justifies salmoning?” he asked, referring to wrong-way riding. “Nothing.”

Anonymous Fri Nov 26 19:25:20 2010 No.1313546

Urban riders generally break down into several well-defined though not always mutually exclusive tribes. There are the racers, the commuters, the messengers, the fixie hipsters, the Dutch pedalers, the weekend warriors, the BMXers, the mutant/tall bike designers. Devoted to the bike as medium and message, these groups need no prodding to get in to the saddle.

However, for those without allegiances and nothing more than a beat-up old Trek in the basement, New York can seem hard to navigate and unfriendly. Building bike paths is one thing, but persuading incipient cyclists that the bike is simply a mode of transport, a way to get from one activity in the city to another, is a different matter.

“How do you get all New Yorkers — who aren’t biking for recreation or athletic purposes or commuting — out there?” said Amanda M. Burden, the city’s planning commissioner. Her department’s answer is a series of bike tour maps to guide riders around neighborhoods that they might not think to visit on two wheels.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 26 19:30:20 2010 No.1313560 >>1313539 OP here I should have waited to post my list later, lol. >>1313507 That's mine. I wasn't planning on posting it, but see post for reasoning.

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