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>The "speculative Good Friday": the "infinite pain" of the loss of the absolute (death of God) is a moment of the absolute, it is necessary to acknowledge "all the truth" despite the "harshness of it's impiety". In Jena, Hegel conceives the scope of the discovery made in Frankfurt, and that is the fertility of negativity. Now the job is to make negativity the soul of a new conception of sistematicity.

-Kervégan (Hegel interpreter, this is from his work Hegel and Hegelianism). The parts in quotes are excerpts from Faith and Knowledge (1802), a writing from young Hegel

>This self knows the story about what actually counts concerning the abstract person; it likewise also knows the story about what counts concerning the person in pure thought. It knows that what this amounts to is instead a complete loss; it is itself this loss which has become conscious of itself, and it is the self-relinquishing of its knowing of itself. – We now see that the unhappy consciousness constituted the counterpart and the culmination of the consciousness that was perfectly happy within itself, namely, the comic consciousness. All divine essence returns back into this comic consciousness, or it is the complete self-relinquishing of substance. In contrast, the unhappy consciousness is conversely the tragic fate of the certainty of itself that is supposed to be in and for itself. It is the consciousness of the loss of all essentiality in this certainty of itself and of the loss even of this knowing of itself – It is the loss of substance as well as of the self, the pain that expresses itself in the harsh phrase that God is dead.

-Hegel, Phenomenology of Spirit §752

>God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it?

-Nietzsche, The Gay Science

What is the death of God and what is it's relationship to the constitution of the modern/postmodern era?

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13122990

Bump :/

>> No.13123381

>>13122767
Wow. Very nice mirroring. A+

>> No.13123390

do your own homework
or, demonstrate that you are not doing homework and I will explain it to you

>> No.13123509

>>13123390
My thesis is on the role of christianity in universal human history (Hegelian shit), I doubt any of you fuckers will post anything that will be of value to my dissertation, but at least I tried...

>> No.13123530

>>13123509
fuck u
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>> No.13123676

>>13122767
The death of God is the return to immanence. Yet, without the unconsciousness to blind us from the world, the nothingness of being, or the lack of meaning or meaningless, becomes evidently clear.

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13123748

He isn't dead, it's just that Christianity is, which was inevitable due to contradictions and latent humanism.

Modernism is Faustianism, postmodernism is radical subjectivism. The Yankee seeks to reconstruct the whole planet, as he has the South and Europe, to accord with this. The primary Kampf, the jihad of today, is resisting this.

>> No.13124861

>>13122767

It's hard to see Nietzsche's primitive plagiarism in his terminal idiocy. Not only is he superfluous by subsisting on others' ideas, not only is he bad at it, but even his parasitism is in turn parasitic, his polemic being a bestial pastiche of others' arguments as well. Like a monkey imitating men.

>> No.13124881

>>13122767
You can't kill God, stupid.
You'll kill yourself tying to do that.

>> No.13124928

Nietzsche is such a stupid faget. No wonder he wrote the gay science.
>flowery syphilitic prose != truth

>> No.13125650

>>13124861
Come on now...

Hegel's death of God is more related to metaphysics and his philosophy of history, while Nietzsche's is a culture critique. Both are important to understand our zeitgeist.

>> No.13126302

>>13123748
>islam complaining about contradictions
lmao