/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.13102217]

>>/lit/thread/S13094277
>>/lit/thread/S13077116
>>/lit/thread/S13029956
Do you think these type of threads should be deleted? They seem to get a lot of replies, clearly people here want to have these discussions. It's not like there aren't countless books on these subjects (which people are regularly quoting, paraphrasing, recommending in these threads) so why is the topic not suitable for /lit/? Obviously /his/ exists, but its a fundamentally different board culture and you aren't going to have debates there as informed by the surrounding literature, whereas on /lit/ there are a fair amount of posters who've actually done the required reading. It's not like the board is flooded with this kind of stuff either. Are we really going to let the last good board on the site degrade into booktuber threads and circlejerking the same handful of fiction authors? /mu/ but with books?? This seems to be the moderation teams' ideal /lit/, but does the userbase want this? It's literally the only board on 4chan that allows for somewhat informed discussion of The Big Questions yet the threads that bring up these questions are continually deleted while these are all apparently fine because they 'mention a specific book' or whatever:
>>/lit/thread/S13073487
>>/lit/thread/S13072994
>>/lit/thread/S13072301
>>/lit/thread/S13056431

[Anonymous No.13102229]

>>13102217
>Do you think these type of threads should be deleted?
Yes. It's quite obvious we need a board about theology. /pol/, /his/, and /lit/ all have discussion about theology. We need a new board

[Anonymous No.13102246]

>>13102229
theology can be approached from literary, historical and political angles. whats the problem with the discussions existing on three different boards? how can we even hope to truly understand most literature without some level of theological knowledge?

[Anonymous No.13102248]

>>13102217
I agree, especially annoyed that the orthodox thread was deleted I was very interested in it, don't know much already. Meanwhile our mods leave up so many trash threads its ridiculous. Why is the art general allowed up but a religious discussion general isn't? (not complaining l, I like the art thread, just wish more quality content threads were up.)

[Anonymous No.13102265]

>>13102246
It's not being analyzed though. It's just a flame war with no intelligent discussion in sight. It's always the same tired old arguments. A theology board could be a containment board.

[Anonymous No.13102271]

>>13102217
>if books have been written about it, it must be literature
No. That's just dumb and promotes those "books for this feel?" threads
>getting lots of replies makes it lit related
Normally the bad actors and unread fill out the majority of those threads. There might be one guy feeding the trolls real quotes and further reading, but he's still feeding the trolls and giving them a veil of legitimacy to hide behind while making endless low quality posts.
>but if we don't have threads about non-lit things then there will only be the same fiction books over and over
That's patently untrue, since you've just argued that there are books they could have read about the topic if they googled before making the thread. We are not going to run out of books to discuss by actually discussing books. The only people who will need to read the sticky.
>but muh meta thread is totally legit
Hiro rescinded that order and you should take this to /qa/ so people who want to talk about books can ignore it more easily.

[Anonymous No.13102275]

>>13102271
>No. That's just dumb and promotes those "books for this feel?" threads
most religious traditions ARE literary traditions. its not that there are 'books written about it'- the books ARE it.

[Anonymous No.13102294]

>>13102217
they should be deleted and you should stop making them

[Anonymous No.13102322]

>>13102275
>most religious traditions ARE literary traditions
They're usually several splits of literary traditions (some Jains believe in female samsara, others in a different tradition don't; Chan Buddhism is different to Zen Buddhism despite being the literary tradition for the creation of Zen; Catholicism is not a stand alone literary tradition in the religious sense, and in the literary tradition has inspired more heresy than heterodoxy; the Torah is only in part written and the oral Torah is the source of many traditions which were never literary tradition; Shinto is not a particularly literary tradition; etc). You're poorly read on these matters and I suggest not posting until after you've been through the books Google indicates you need.

[Anonymous No.13102621]

How did we get to this point?

What happenned?

[Anonymous No.13102848]

>>13102229
>>13102265
Just redirect people to double chan's christian board

[Anonymous No.13103212]

>>13102217
Mods delete those threads but the endless froposting books for feel threads remain

[Anonymous No.13103221]

/lit/ doesn't have mods. We used to have one that came on from time to time but I think he killed himself a few months ago

[Anonymous No.13103314]

Should thumpers be allowed to proselytize?
Do jannies want to allow boomer folks who spill into here from /pol/? On one hand, their preaching (at times literal, like those threads) gets annoying, because it triggers equally stunted atheist fedoras, on another into a blatant and pointless cycle of religious bait.

But on another, boomers can bring some wisdom into here when they're not busy with their lord and savior, as they can be surprisingly well read guys.

[Anonymous No.13103436]

>>13103314
The state of this board, I think the thumper-atheist flame wars are among the least shit posts. Whay happened? Is it just me or has the board gotten markedly worse in the past few months

[Anonymous No.13103479]

>>13102229
A theology board would just be Christians and godhead shitposters
Discussion of anything else would get derailed/ignored

[Anonymous No.13103487]

>>13103479
Good, as it should be

[Anonymous No.13103490]

>>13103487
if it would contain them then it would probably be a great idea

[Anonymous No.13103493]

>>13102217

[Anonymous No.13103508]

>>13103490
Lmao, we all know how well containment boards work
Hint: they don't

[Anonymous No.13103511]

>>13103493
Mods only delete Christian threads now. Get fucked rule poster
books for this feel?

[Anonymous No.13103567]

>>13103436
Moderation across all boards has gotten worse/gayer recently. Same on /k/ and /o/.

[Anonymous No.13103572]

>>13102229
>>13103479
>>13103487
>>13103508
imo ideally there wouldn't be a single theology board but multiple boards for each major religion
having people from different religions all talking anonymously on the same board would be a complete shitshow

[Anonymous No.13103590]

>>13103567
Why

[Anonymous No.13103597]

>>13103572
Seems reasonable to me. A religion board and discussion will be divided into different threads

[Anonymous No.13103608]

>>13103597
Ideally. There's no way to know except by trying it out

[Anonymous No.13103609]

>>13103572
>/jew/
now THAT's how you avoid a shitshow

[Anonymous No.13103626]

>>13102217
The answer is pretty clearly to start the thread with a specific book. If you want to talk about Orthodoxy then post a book about Orthodoxy

[Anonymous No.13103646]

>>13103626
There are at least 5 eceleb threads up right now with no mention of books in the op.

[Anonymous No.13103647]

>>13103609
desu I don't think I've ever seen a thread of jews discussing their religion

[Anonymous No.13103659]

>>13103646
well idk then the mods work in mysterious ways

[Anonymous No.13103660]

>>13103647
They wouldn't. They do it in private jew schools, not where the goyim can spy

[Anonymous No.13103713]

>>13102217
Philosophy threads get culled as well. A philosophy and theology board might have a better mix of interests.

[Anonymous No.13103752]

>>13103713
I don't know what the fuck the mods are thinking. Philosophical discussion was the biggest draw to lit for me in the beginning

[Anonymous No.13103964]

>>13103752
This also seems to be the only board capable of regularly discussing philosophic topics having actually read any of the material.

[Anonymous No.13104105]

>>13103590
I don't know. My guess is that someone put out new guidelines for what is and isn't acceptable (e.g. "no theology threads on /lit/"). Who did it, why, and what those rules are I have no idea.

[Anonymous No.13104113]

>>13104105
Its because I schizoposted about how the neeyorktimes search engine blocked "five eyes" and "UKUSA" from their search.

[Anonymous No.13104127]

>>13104113
Now the intelligence community is disrupting lit to make sure that no legitimate discussion can take place here, I know it I can feel it in my pineal gland

[Anonymous No.13104152]

This is a meta question: when did this board become so damn fast? I didn't even notice it over the last year but I could expect 1 bump every 2 minutes 2016 and now threads are being bumped by the seconds. Insane

[Anonymous No.13104162]

>>13104152
I think it's usually caused by a small number of engaged posters in a specific thread. If a thread doesn't have an active discussion going on it will still be pretty slow.

[Anonymous No.13104187]

>>13103567
>/o/.
i hope you wrap your fender around a tree and do a sumersault through the windshield you stupid caging fucktard. go fellate a tailpipe.

[Anonymous No.13104200]

>>13104187
Yeah I'm way more concerned about a spectacularly bloody automotive accident than a *squints* motorcycle rider.

Hope you get plenty of pussy though bro.

[Anonymous No.13104237]

>>13103572
>sounds stupid and unnecessary.

[Anonymous No.13104239]

>>13104237
who are you quoting

[Anonymous No.13104321]

>>13104200
>implying
light rail master race.

[Anonymous No.13104709]

>>13104321
>light rail master race
Heehee, the purple hair of transport

[Anonymous No.13104773]

>>13104152
Its why the board quality dropped so much, lit was better as a slow thoughtful board
do you know when it became like this? Is it just summer?

[Anonymous No.13105441]

>>13102217
Based. Fuck christkeks

[Anonymous No.13105463]

>>13102265
this

[Anonymous No.13105504]

>>13103508
containment threads work pretty well, at least in my experience on /mu/. all the K-pop fags stay in their own thread and don't bother anyone else

[Anonymous No.13105524]

Honestly, if I had to choose between removing the Christianity threads and removing the e-celeb/idiot threads, I'd pick the latter in a heartbeat. I can tolerate people asking about God and religion, but if I see another fucking thread about Ben Shapiro or Jordan Peterson I'm going to strangle someone.

[Anonymous No.13106041]

>>13105524
I'm sick of eceleb threads holy shit. And I'm browsing the board and I can't believe the sheer number of 0 reply threads, froposting threads, bait threads, eceleb threads. Lit used to be much slower and more ponderous, right?