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ANATOMICALLY INCORRECT Edition

>post instances where the cover artist was chastised for INACCURACY and the author actually had the clout to get it changed

Monthly Reading for May: There Are Doors by Gene Wolfe

Monthly Reading books: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/15ZwgDZVXB-nLqjbgcqgntZDyTddd0eqP

Fantasy:
https://imgoat.com/uploads/0935e4cd59/105363.jpg
https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21328.jpg
Flowchart:
https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21327.jpg

Science Fiction:
https://imgoat.com/uploads/def184ad8f/124507.jpg
https://imgoat.com/uploads/b44928ae11/114401.jpg
General:
https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21332.jpg
https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21330.jpg

NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21333.jpg

SF&F author listing with ratings and summaries:
http://greatsfandf.com/authors-full-list.php

Previously
>>13071324
>>13060273
>>13050039
>>13036840
>>13029496
>>13019880

>> No.13086940

sanderfag a hack

>> No.13086944
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13086944

>You've read Masters of Rome right anon?

>> No.13087031

Newb here, what's the monthly reading book for?

>> No.13087126
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13087126

Picked these up for 25 cents each in a Los Alamos hospital
How did I do, lads?

>> No.13087128
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13087128

Hello, ladies.

>> No.13087141

>>13087031
for reading? this month?

>> No.13087145

>start reading Radix as suggested by an anon here
>MC is basically you
Is fiction supposed to hurt?

>> No.13087156

>>13087141
is there going to be a discussion about the book or anything, or is it just a recommendation?

>> No.13087158
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13087158

I really miss Star Trek shows and Discovery fucking sucks. What are the best Star Trek-like novels? I don't mean one of those official Star Trek novels, licensed works suck 99% of the time. I mean something original with the same ST feel.

>> No.13087174
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13087174

Kino

>> No.13087176
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13087176

Download in the OP, as usual.

>>13087031
It's for reading.

>> No.13087216
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13087216

I've heard this has a similar feel to the 1981 movie Heavy Metal. Is this true? Also, was I supposed to understand what the fuck is going on in the first chapter?

>> No.13087227

>>13087174
Are you being ironic?
I want to read something with Warcraft style Orcs and Trolls, but I always assumed actual Warcraft books would be mediocre at best.

>> No.13087244

>>13087216
>Also, was I supposed to understand what the fuck is going on in the first chapter?
the books are very disjointed at times they do come together though at various points and you will slap your forehead for not thinking about certain things because they seemed so obvious in hindsight.
it gets better. but it keeps staying like that to varying degrees throughout the books.

>> No.13087254

>>13087227
>always assumed actual Warcraft books would be mediocre at best.
the old ones are great. fantastic at points actually. the newer ones not so much.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warcraft#Novels
read up to and including stormrage. they are solid up to that point.

>> No.13087256
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13087256

Welp, lads it sucks. The characters feel incomplete or imported from his other sieres, the story and action is crap and it is laced with "you go girl" modern politics.
What a shame.

>> No.13087288
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>> No.13087289

Boys go to swim, decided to take a shortcut back
As they head back home, they see a bunch of guys stalking around the graveyard
What's going on here?
We're volunteers and it's nona ya business
Let me come along tho
Violence as they discover grave robbers
Then the main character saves a grave robber's life and is given a coin as a reward

Most of the book main plotlines are attached directly to stuff that happened in this one first chapter.

>> No.13087293

>>13087289

Meant for>>13087216

>> No.13087297

>>13087254
Thanks for the input lad, I'll check them out.
There's even one about Arthas so now I'm hype.

>> No.13087311

>>13086919
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/def184ad8f/124507.jpg

You LIED to me /sffg/
The Dying Earth is listed here as science fiction but it's as Fantasy as it gets, wizards and shit everywhere.

>> No.13087360

>>13087256
>reading anything from that author after the first Red Knight novel

>> No.13087367

>>13087311
Fug off. I posted my "do no read" list a bunch of times and you still read it. It's on you.

>> No.13087393

It's 00:48 in the night as I'm writing this and the sun of dread has dawned upon me; Gene Wolfe is dead.

>> No.13087402

>>13087367
Have sex

>> No.13087417

>>13087402
Having sex doesn't solve anything, it just gives you more problems than you stated with.

>> No.13087441

>>13087158
The licensed work is generally pretty solid anon, i recommend the destiny trilogy, basically a direct sequel to TNG, DS9 and VOY

>> No.13087450

>>13087417
Like having to internalize and accept that you're a valid human and member of society and that all the years you spent believing that you could be content with being a reject because of external factors were a like and that you've really been alive and functioning and acceptable all along, for all the time you've wasted

>> No.13087453

It's 00:57 in the night and I've never even heard about Gene Wolfe up until few weeks ago.

>> No.13087488

>>13087450
The sex has to go well for this to happen. Usually this is not the case for someone who's spent all of their life not having it. The cycle begins again.

>> No.13087645

>>13087488
No, because if someone wants to fuck you and it's your first time and your dick won't get up, they're just going to try again tomorrow, and the second time's probably going to go better.

>> No.13087704

>>13087645
>he actually believes this
You never dealt with girls have you?
They would laugh at you and go tell all their friends.

>> No.13087707

>>13087156
Usually a little bit of discussion after the month is over.

>> No.13087758

>>13087645
>>13087704
Not all women are kind, neither are all women Stacys. It depends on what situation you get yourself into. My point is: someone who has never or has very rarely ever had sex should not throw themselves pele-mele into it. One has to be discerning enough to not have sex with someone who aggravates your obvious insecurities, but not so discerning that you never have sex because no one can measure up to your ideal. But we should be talking about scifi

>> No.13087767

Is Lightbringer another meme like Kingkiller and Sanderson

>> No.13087781

>>13087704
I'm bringing you my opinions as a Real Sex Haver who has stuck his penis into a cisgendered woman.

>>13087758
Scifi's basically just a boat for the author to shove all of his fetishes into, anyways.

While we're talking about sci-fi, is there any sci-fi author with good prose? (Wolfe writes future fantasy and his prose sucks when he writes anything closer to sci-fi than that, so don't even try.)

>> No.13087784

Man the book of the month >>13087176 is wild. Just finished reading the first 30 or so pages and I have no idea what's going on.

It's my first time venturing in spec fiction though.

>> No.13087791

What are some free epub readers that you all would recommend?

>> No.13087794
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13087794

Anyone read this?

>> No.13087800

>>13087360
>the first Red Knight novel

Is this worth a read?
Someone told me it was like Berserk but I'm not sure if I was getting memed.

>> No.13087915

>>13087158
Try The Demon Prince's by Jack Vance, although as typical of Vance there isn't really a nice big ship and crew.

>> No.13087920

>>13087216
>I've heard this has a similar feel to the 1981 movie Heavy Metal. Is this true?
I can see why someone would make that claim, but I don't agree with it.

>Also, was I supposed to understand what the fuck is going on in the first chapter?
Not really.

>> No.13087932
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13087932

Finished this last night, very good stuff. Are the other books in the series good?

>> No.13087997

>>13087800
It’s not like berserk, but if you want heavy Calvary charging a line of horrific monsters then it should scratch that itch for you.

>> No.13088106

I know this is not (quite) the place, but what are /sffg/'s favourite fantasy and sci-fi games?

I usually play games more for its narrative/story/world, so I was curious to see what people here like. I've finally got around to playing the Zelda games lately and I was stunned by how whimsical and wonderful the entire world of the games felt.

>> No.13088137

>>13088106
Dark Souls, Morrowind, Deus Ex, and the first Mass Effect are all pretty great. I need to get around to playing Planescape Torment since I've heard it is quite good. The Desolate Hope is another one I've been meaning to play, but I'm mainly just interested in its art style.

>> No.13088142

>>13088106
>Fantasy
Bloodborne/Morrowind
>Sci-fi
New Vegas

>> No.13088148

>>13088106
Nier Automata is a pretty /lit/ game

>> No.13088173

>>13087800
>Is this worth a read?
Can't you into greentext? It was shit, that is why you shouldn't read anything after red knight.

>> No.13088176

>>13087932
Are you vexed that no knots were given to teenage space sluts?

>> No.13088187

>>13087932
A Deepness in the Sky is good, Children of the Sky sucks.

>> No.13088206

>>13088176
My mind started wandering while I was reading and thinking if Ravna never got to the planet eventually she would have needs that need meeting.

>> No.13088208

>>13088106
>>>/v/
I don't play games. If I did I would be on /v/

>> No.13088211

>>13088187
Is Children poorly written or what? Seems like most people hate it because its all Tinish stuff but I liked that part of the book.

>> No.13088230

>>13088106
Scifi - System Shock 2
Fantasy- Witcher series

>> No.13088267

>>13088106
>I usually play games more for its narrative/story/world
legacy of kain if you wanna know how to properly handle vampire lore and storytelling.
check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWM_Vqh8qAg
for scifi i would recommend something like x2 if you want to get really deep into space lore. you gotta look for it though. its hidden but everywhere. its a fucking comfy game.

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>>13087794
>look up author
f-fuck

>> No.13088331

>>13088311
holy shit. that look on her. she is batshit insane. and not the regular kind. shes one of those that would feed the guy she likes her menstrual blood and vaginal secretions without ever telling him.
that look is the look of insanity.

>> No.13088348

>>13088331
that's hot, anon

>> No.13088353

>>13087997
Yeah, that's pretty much what I want to read at the moment, thanks m8

>>13088173
I want to hear more than one opinion about it.

>> No.13088384

>>13087800
It's nothing like Berserk. I can see some similarities with the band of the hawk since the main characters are mercenaries but that's about it. The author is into historical reenactments and it shows. A lot of detail into armors and weapons to an autistic degree. It is a bit gritty medieval blood fest but nothing edgy like Broken Empire.

>> No.13088428

>>13088384
>It is a bit gritty medieval blood fest but nothing edgy like Broken Empire.
What is the difference between something being gritty and dark and being "edgy"? I mean, historically, humans were pretty fucked up, often far more than the average "edgy" work depict, so what exactly makes something "edgy"?

>> No.13088439

>>13088384
>A lot of detail into armors and weapons to an autistic degree.
That sounds kinda interesting desu

>>13088428
The way I see it, something is edgy mostly depending on how it is handled. Death, violence, rape, all of those can be edgy if they are mostly gratuitous, senseless, and do little to actually advance the plot.

>> No.13088460

>>13088428
Expect a fairly realistic siege warfare and soldiers getting butchered when overrun. By edgy I mean mustache twirling villains who eat babies while raping their mothers at the same time. Or needless gory deaths and such.

>> No.13088468

>>13088267
Wow. That's really good writing for a video game. Why isn't this more common? That sounds like something straight from a classical author. The voice actors sound great too and were really into it by the looks of it.

>> No.13088521

>>13088106
Planescape Torment
Morrowind
KotoR 2
Demon Souls
MGS2

>> No.13088527

>>13088267
>Legacy of Kain got turned into a fucking MOBA and then killed after it flopped
I will never not be mad about this.

>>13088468
The voice actors really sell the whole thing.

>> No.13088537

>>13088106
This >>13088521 but with Deus Ex, System Shock 2 and the first and third S.T.A.L.K.E.R. games added

>> No.13088605

>>13088106
The overall story was just OK, but Grigori from Dragon's Dogma is my favorite dragon in any sort of media, so I feel obligated to mention him here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lphAh-kfKVg

>> No.13088747

>>13088331
yeah, but think of the sex

>> No.13088970

>>13088747
Only people who have not dealt with crazy want to stick their dicks in crazy.

>> No.13088991

>>13088311
Relationship ended with SARAH J mASS now ARKADY MARTINE is my sff waifu

>> No.13089016

>>13088970
Only people of weak will dont want to stick their dick in crazy

>> No.13089023

Shill me something good with a single pov.

>> No.13089024
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>>13088106
>but what are /sffg/'s favourite fantasy
The Witcher, Gothic, Arcanum and Morrowind.
>and sci-fi games?
Mass Effect, Starflight, Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri and Homeworld.

>> No.13089079

>>13088460
>who eat babies while raping their mothers at the same time.
But it's aaawwwright.

>> No.13089121
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>>13086919
What are some games that deal with the concept of self sacrifice for the sake of a loved one?

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13089138

yo /sffg/, what are some books where the roles are reversed. usually its a kid being trained in something be it sword fighting, wizardry or something else.
are there any good books where the mc is actually the master/teacher?

>>13088106
also system shock 2.
fantastic game. pic related.

>> No.13089148
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>>13087158
I actually really enjoyed Star Trek: Destiny, probably the only ST book I'd recommend.

>> No.13089169

trying to get into fiction
best non series SciFi novels?
I like space and ayys and laserguns

>> No.13089194

annihilation is spooking my guts off and im only 30 pages in

>> No.13089212

>>13089194
it gets better. its a great novel.

>> No.13089238

>>13089194
>>13089212
But I thought Jeff VanderMeme was a bad author?

>> No.13089245

>>13089238
even broken clocks are right occasionally.

>> No.13089504
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13089504

Hey /sffg/, did you forget about birdboi? He moved on to reddit. He abandoned us. He should be forced to pay.

https://imgur.com/a/v2R55MS

>> No.13089538

>>13089238
>>13089245

Why is he bad? His writing is a bit pretentious but I liked City of Saints and Madmen. Hasn't read anything else by him though.

>> No.13089575

>>13089194
>>13089212
It's a great novel and the sequels are also good
I don't know anything about the author other than this series but I fucking loved it

>> No.13089578
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13089578

Did someone actually finish this?

I gave up around page 100. It felt like reading a terrible american sitcom full of boring characters and jokes that at most made me giggle. Am I missing out? I enjoyed American Gods and the depth of its mythology but Anansi Boys left a sour taste in my mouth. I couldn't believe how terrible it was, especially after reading so many glowing reviews from people whose taste I trust.

>> No.13089607

>>13089578
>gaiman
hes like a parasite

>> No.13089631

>>13089194
That's what the book does well. One of the most atmospheric and genuinely creepy novels I've read in recent years. The sequels have some severe pacing issues but keep the same tone with intense paranoia added to the mix.

>> No.13089735

more like gay-man

>> No.13089791

>>13089212
>>13089575
>>13089631
I hope I don't have nightmares tonight. I thought the pacing was weird, but that might have just been the frenzied midnight reading. Also doesn't have the same satisfaction (or hopefulness) of Roadside Picnic, but that might just be because its the first of a trilogy.

couple things: Why would They (the southern reach) allow the journals to just build up there in the lighthouse while also falsely briefing the explorers? Wouldn't they instantly lose all faith in the mission as soon as they explore such a prominent landmark? Were They even capable of getting people out of Area X whole? Why exactly did They not allow video cameras, exactly? no second or 3rd book spoilers pls

also "Area X" sounds way gayer than "the zone"

>> No.13089820

>>13088428
>were
My sweet summer child.

>> No.13089830

>>13088211
nevermind I read a plot synopsis and it sounds pretty bad

>> No.13089831

Looking for some dark, 'mind srewing' scifi novel. Any recommendations?

>> No.13089843
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>>13087311
It's science fantasy m8. The setting is sci-fi but the story reads like fantasy.

>> No.13089848

>>13087784
>reading the first page
>Wolfe namedrop the title of the book
How does he get away with it?

>> No.13089850

>>13089843

There's nothing very scifi about Dying Earth' setting. It's just set in the far future. Viriconium shares a lot more with scifi.

>> No.13089898
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13089898

The only fantasy series I've read in full is Lord of the Rings, I lost interest mid-way with other series.
Recommend me a good standalone Fantasy book /sffg/, or a collection of short stories I guess, anything but a series.

>> No.13089907

>>13089898
Tigana

>> No.13089908

>>13089898
Lud-in-the-Mist. Book of the New Sun (shut up it's one thing in four volumes).

>> No.13089910

>>13089898
Ada by Vladimir Nabokov

>> No.13089921

>>13089898
The Broken Sword by Poul Anderson

>> No.13089928

>>13089578
I finished it, but it didn't really get better. To the end you have a lot more mythology. But the whole story just feels boring.

>> No.13089967

>>13089907
Never read anything by this guy but the premise sounds cool.

>>13089908
>Lud-in-the-Mist
I keep forgetting this exists, I've been meaning to check it out.
>Book of the New Sun
I'll allow it; after all, Lord of the Rings is also sort of a single thing separated in 3 volumes.

>>13089921
Google tells me there are 2 versions of this, are they significantly different? Which one did you read?

>>13089910
Anon...

>> No.13089973

>>13087794
I did. It had some nice ideas going for it and it was passable overall, but it remains a debut novel. Meaning that I found it a little shallow and some characters were too simplistic; some of the character decisions and world-building choices didn't make sense. And the way the citizens of the empire are named just sounds stupid.

>>13089169
Try some stand-alone books by Alastair Reynolds.

>>13089831
Beyond the Aquila Rift
Diamond Dogs

>> No.13090003

>>13089898

Perdido Street Station if you want some urban fantasy. It's part of a trilogy but each book is standalone.

The Pastel City. The writing sometimes stalls but it's a pretty straight forward and fun story. Again, it's part of a series but each book is even more standalone than my first rec.

Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell is excellent if you like historical fiction.

Also, I never heard about Broken Sword having two versions, what do you mean? Couldn't find anything on that.

>> No.13090020

>>13089831
Blindsight

>> No.13090026

>>13090003
>if you want some urban fantasy
I have never read urban fantasy but I'm open to suggestions, maybe a I should broaden my horizons.

>The Pastel City
This does sound pretty fun

>Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell
Someone else recommended this to me one time I asked for books related to the fae, it's been on my wishlist for a while.

>Broken Sword having two versions
https://www.blackgate.com/broken-in-two-poul-andersons-two-versions-of-the-broken-sword/

I found this article after looking at some Amazon reviews. There are some excerpts in there comparing the two versions but honestly, I'm not sure which I would prefer.

>> No.13090030

>>13087216
The first chapter can feel confusing but the first half of the first book is the most easy-to-follow part of the story overall

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Monthly reading list when?

>> No.13090043

What even makes a good fantasy?

>> No.13090046

>>13086919
what was changed?

>> No.13090072
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13090072

How brainlet-friendly is Neuromancer?
As a reference, I can tell you that I had a pretty hard time following BotnS, and I'm sure I missed the point of it.

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>>13090038
The girl on the covers made me think of Coldsteel, for some reason.

>> No.13090095

>>13089631
The first sequel, Authority, really messed with my head. I don't know why exactly, I think the idea of having to deal with layers of government secrecy and office bureaucracy while everyone around you loses their mind and you might be losing yours too just gave me so much anxiety.

>>13090072
It's pretty straight forward and I don't recall any points where I lost the plot. As long as you can keep up with the terminology he's inventing on the fly, you should be fine.

>> No.13090124

>>13090038
Didnt you hear? there is a new /sffg/ waifu >>13088311

>> No.13090131

>>13087256
>he doesn't know about Mommy no! Miles

>> No.13090143
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13090143

Anything with the female main character going Rambo?

>> No.13090232

Is there a modern series that is somewhat comparable to AoIaF in that it is quick fun and has good characters

>> No.13090240

>>13090232
Mistborn.

>> No.13090259

>>13090232
No

>> No.13090274

>>13090259
yes

>> No.13090278
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What's the best edition of Shadow and Claw? Are there any significant differences?

>> No.13090284

I like going through boomer men their GR lists just to check if there's Throne of Glass in there.
Have I found the Maas poster?

https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/17927824-jon-adams

>> No.13090291

>>13090284
We got him

https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/2072451058

>> No.13090303

>>13090278
left version looks better, the paper is very nice too. i think sf masterworks is bigger but the paper quality is also nice, depends what you wants really.

>> No.13090304

>>13090232
Joe Abercrombie's First Law

>> No.13090306

>>13090278
One to the left has better print quality. The absolute best edition are the UK first editions with their aesthetic covers painted by Bruce Pennington.

>> No.13090356

>>13090284
What compels an adult male to read those books

>> No.13090374

>>13088106
dark souls, thief, shadow of the colossus

>> No.13090390

>>13088106
Doom, Wolfenstein New Order, I generally only like simplistic shooters.
Earth Defence Force was cool. DOOM 2016 too.
Shadow Warrior

The Ys games are nice.

>> No.13090427

>>13087128
He had tons of wives bro

>> No.13090491

>>>/tv/114440891

lyl this thread

>> No.13090495

>>13086944
if you're gonna rec historical fiction at least pick something good like Les Rois maudits instead of fucking masters of rome

>> No.13090504

>>13090491
I never go there, is everyone in /tv/ retarded?

>> No.13090505

>>13090504
pretty much

>> No.13090508

>>13090504
Yes, in its current state, it might actually be a board worse than /v/.

>> No.13090510

>>13090504
yes. worst board on 4ch.

>> No.13090518

>>13090427
Is that supposed to be a good thing or bad thing? I mean since he's not a towelhead he didn't have several wives at once.

>> No.13090521

>>13090518
Good if he had them all at the same time bad otherwise.

>> No.13090537

>>13087402
I always read that as an invitation. Asl? I only date braphogs fyi.

>> No.13090747

>>13090095
>I don't know why exactly, I think the idea of having to deal with layers of government secrecy and office bureaucracy while everyone around you loses their mind and you might be losing yours too just gave me so much anxiety.
Are you underage ban? You sound like those kids that watch pewpiedie fake scare video and jump in fright when he pretends to be scared. Fucking brainlet underage b&.

>> No.13090814

>>13090504
Yep. They are pedos too, and it's where the foot fetish fags plague spread from. They always begging for feet.

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13090867

Finally finished all of Hayes First Earth books. Anyone know of any other series with slutfus? Got a strong desire to read more of those after Heresy Within.

>> No.13090881

>>13087158
Watch The Orville. It has a dodgy first few episodes but really becomes great mid first season with an even better second season.

>> No.13090910

>>13090867
Cassandra Kresnov series by Joel Shepherd. The mc is an organic battle android and a nymphomaniac. She literally wants to fuck anything that moves.

David Gemmell's Hawk Queen, the only Gemmell book I've ever dropped, it's not that the book was bad but I couldn't handle the whore levels of the mc, you might like it.

>> No.13090912

>>13090867
Song of shattered sands

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>>13090910
Lmao, this cover.

>> No.13090934

>>13090504
/tv/ is based other anons can get fucked

>> No.13090965

>>13090867
How was it, what was it about and did it have a downer ending?

>> No.13090988

is black company decent i found the writing style unusual and kinda difficult to follow should i give it a proper go lots people rave about it

>> No.13090992

>>13090867
Friday by Heinlein

>> No.13091000

>>13087174
I actually loved this book when I was a kid.

>> No.13091002

>>13090988
It's pretty good but it's not amazing or anything. Drop it if you're not feeling it.

>> No.13091022

>>13090965
Not that anon. I liked it, Black Thorn gets funnier and funnier as the series progresses. I also liked what the writer did with the world, he didn't go deep into autistic world building but it still felt rich and colorful.
The ending was a sad one. Sword waifu dies.
Overall I'd give it a solid 7.5/10

>> No.13091043

>>13090495
>Les
Sounds gr*ek

>> No.13091045

>>13090910
>Cassandra Kresnov series by Joel Shepherd.
>David Gemmell's Hawk Queen
How do you even find books like that?

>> No.13091074

>>13090988
I read the first book and din't care for it. Not awful, but I didn't feel any need to read more of them.

>> No.13091077

>>13091045
Joel Shepherd wrote the Spiral Wars series, which is one of best recent science fiction series I've come across so I looked into the other series he wrote, Cassandra Kresnov being one of them.

David Gemmell is known for his heroic fantasy, I've read and liked a lot of his books, Rigante and Troy being the notably good ones. I tried Hawk Queen since he wrote it.

>> No.13091086

>>13090491
btw this thread is much worse now if you really want to suffer

>> No.13091153

>>13089831
Fiasco

>> No.13091157

>>13090284
If you shit on the boomers and zoomers, which group do you belong to?

>> No.13091175
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Owo whats this?

>> No.13091180

>>13091175
gay shit?

>> No.13091199

>>13090934
>t. cunny lover who imagines how their feet smell after a light jog

>> No.13091205

>>13091043
How would you know?
pay your debts

>> No.13091209

>>13089169
Rendezvous with Rama, and Childhood's End are obvious choices for good standalone novels. They're both quite short, so they're not a massive investment of time, and Arthur C. Clarke is a classic. Rendezvous with Rama is about a small team of human naval officers being given a mission to explore a titanic presumably derelict alien ship which is passing through our solar system. Childhood's End is about Ayylmaos annexing earth, and becoming our benevolent dictators. They’re both interesting in their own ways.

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>>13091175
Why is the bulge so prominent?

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13091217

really enjoyed nelson cheretas books.
is there anything similar to waldo rabbit and dr anarchys rules of world domination?

>> No.13091233

>>13091217
Not really. You could try and find other self published books. Those usually have comedic fantasy / scifi.
If you want I can put together some passable self pub that puts that comedic way of story telling. But I know you will call it shit anyways.

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Anything quite similar to this book? The most similar vibes have been from maybe PKD and Murakami.

I guess I'm asking if you guys have any recommendations for good metaphysical sci-fi that takes place in the form of technology/drugs/dreams.

>> No.13091265

>>13091233
>But I know you will call it shit anyways.
that is a fair assessment.

>> No.13091279

>>13091217
Imagine actually reading children's lit. Go back to reddytplayerone.

>> No.13091329

>>13090046
Breasts were flattened. Hani do not have obvious ones, a fact noted more than once in the previous book.

>> No.13091350

>>13091279
>waldo rabbit
>childrens lit
wat

>> No.13091352

>>13091217
>not resizing columns to fit perfectly
Were you abused as a child?

>> No.13091356

>>13090934
Dumb frogposter

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>came in expecting Paksennarion but with no fantastical stuff
>got something closer to Drake and Flint's Belisarius with more of a focus on the MC than the fighting
I'm liking it for the most part, though I'm not quite used to it yet
the priest character does make me hanker for books with comfy priests, which is a really niche thing
as to how I picked it up
finally got around to reading GGK just over a month ago, and now I've read all but his poetry, the LoTR homage trilogy, Ysabel and Tigana
made me want more alt-history/universe stuff, and I'd had half an eye of this for a while, so no-brainer
so what's stuff that someone who pretty much binged Kay's work would like?
as for ranking 'em for your austistic pleasure
>Children of Earth and Sky (pissed I read this before the Sarantine Mosaic)
>Under Heaven
>Lions of al-Rassan = Sailing to Sarantium (maybe the edge to Sarantium, barely)
>River of Stars = Song for Arbonne
>Lord of Emperors
>
>
>
>Last Light of the Sun (this left me cold - I like Cornwell's Saxon Stories/Last Kingdom stuff, so I can dig the period and setting)

>> No.13091399

>>13091369
How is The Deed Of Paksenarrion? I thought about buying it the other day.

>> No.13091408

Hari Seldon vs Joseph Knecht

Who wins? Who has the superior intellect?

>> No.13091410
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I really liked this series
Any recommendations on what I should read next?

>> No.13091440

>>13091399
The first 2 books are decent but it goes to utter shit in book 3. One of the worst final books I've ever read. I'm talking Blood Song sequel level drop off.

>> No.13091450

>>13091399
anon you replied to, and I pretty much agree with >>13091440
it kinda loses it's way, badly, but overall I found it worth my time, but I don't like to leave a story unfinished, so I rarely drop stuff
(ignore the other books set in that universe - I looked at some blurbs and ugh)

>> No.13091460

>>13091410
The bibliography of Arthur C. Clarke.

>> No.13091471

>>13091460
I read Rendezvous with Rama and Childhoods End and liked both, Childhoods end more.

>> No.13091645

>>13089967
>are they significantly different?
Not really,the major diffrence it's that he changes the name of one character.
This guy made a good review of both versions
>https://www.blackgate.com/broken-in-two-poul-andersons-two-versions-of-the-broken-sword/

>> No.13091654

>>13090232
Wolfblade by Jennifer Fallon

>> No.13091667
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>>13090867
>look up Hayes on Goodreads
>First follower I see is >>13090284
Sarah poster strikes again.

>> No.13091732

>>13091252
The Butterfly Kid

>> No.13091744

are there any decent portal fantasy books, or are they all garbage?

>> No.13091757

>>13091744
The Wizard Knight

>> No.13091803

>>13091744
The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant:The unbeliever

>> No.13091811

>>13090747
>You sound like those kids that watch pewpiedie fake scare video and jump in fright when he pretends to be scared
Pewdiepie doesn't even do anymore and he's literally /our_boy/ now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPnTTA8BC8A

>> No.13091884

>>13091471
Yeah, same. I'll probably read either Space Odyssey or Fountains of Paradise next.

>> No.13091901

>>13091803
Nom.

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>>13090284
>>13090291
>>13091667
Lads, I think we got the wrong boomer, even if his taste is shit enough to qualify. Besides, he hasn't even read CoAurt ThoOFrns RoANDses past book 1 if you check his read list.

>> No.13091928

>>13091919
>the multilingual/edition bloat raising their book counts to insanity levels

>> No.13091948

Anyone know a good reading app on phone that can sort by series?

>> No.13091952

>>13091948
Just use ReadEra.

>> No.13091959

>>13091948
I use FBReader, but there's probably better options

>> No.13092066

>>13091952
Thanks anon, that works.

>> No.13092200

Is there such a thing as good D&D novel?

>> No.13092233

>>13092200
anything not forgotten realms is pretty good.
avoid forgotten realms at all costs.

>> No.13092378

>>13092200
some dragonlance stuff?
>hasn't read dragonlance
deathgate?

>> No.13092546

>>13089194
Is it worth reading even though the movie spoiled the plot for me?

>> No.13092583

>>13092546
The movie is nothing like the book except for a few generalities. The book as written is pretty much un-filmable so they had to take some huge liberties to adapt it.

>> No.13092752

>>13091744
Merchant Princes

>> No.13092772

>>13091352
>being this OCD'd

>> No.13092854

>>13091811
So who is the fake scare cunts now?

>> No.13092860

>>13091919
>rothfuss author of 58 books
What?

>> No.13092864

>>13092583
Great, thanks.

>> No.13092870

>>13092583
>The book as written is pretty much un-filmable
explain plz

>> No.13092890

>>13092860
It's different editions/languages etc. obviously.
You don't think gayman actually wrote 1261 books do you?

>> No.13092900

>>13091952
>check it up on google play
>is free
>opens a bunch of formats
>no ads
>only wants access to things it needs to funct-...
>view network, full net access
>why does an offline book reader need internet access
>makers are from russia
>23mb app
Okay. No Thanks.

>> No.13092910

>>13092870
The book in lots of internal monologues and external mindfuckery - think a sci-fi version of The Naked Lunch. For example the whole descent underground and everything to do with the lighthouse keeper is a mind fuck that would be nearly impossible to visualize on screen.

>> No.13092944

>>13092900
The fuck are you smoking? Readera didn't ask me for any permissions other than to access storage folders and no it's not using my network.

>> No.13092949

>>13092910
So it's the scifi version of malazan?

>> No.13092957

>>13092949
No, it's not that bad.

>> No.13092958

>going away tomorrow
>have no fucking idea what I want to download to have to read
ah so this is the problem with having read like 30 books this year

>> No.13092981

>>13092958
>not having a b-list of "I'll read them someday." books just for occasions like this.
I have a list of 50+ books that I'm not super interested in reading right away but they'll do if I'm in a pinch and need something asap.

>> No.13092989

>>13092981
Yeah I have like that many on my kindle but the trouble is I've already thought of them as books I don't really want to read so I find it hard to start them.

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>>13092944

>> No.13093041

>>13092957
I'm talking about the film-ability. They can't put malazan properly to film.

>> No.13093108

Anyone read Psalms of Isaak?
It's starting off interesting but not exactly gripping and its a series of five fairly long books so I'm not sure if I want to carry on or not

>> No.13093110

>>13093001
not the guy you are responding to but i use readera a lot. i also developed for android before.

photos and media is needed to read files from internal memory. storage is needed to read files from an sd card or if there is more than one partition on the devices for data.
the network access is new to me but it could be because the author wants to support OPDS catalogs such as the one a calibre server creates.
this is all fairly normal. network access and network connections are needed for local discovery apis. for example scanning your local network for a server so you dont actually need to remember the ip or host name. that being said. on my phone it only has the two storage permissions and works fine. never even asked about the other permissions besides preventing the device from sleeping.

>> No.13093293

read neuromancer & mona lisa overdrive

where to go from here? atmospheric cyberpunk with cool speculative near-future technology is my genre fetish

>> No.13093420

>>13092958
update
>just downloading fucking everything that looks remotely interesting because nothing is hooking me
lol might find something good

>> No.13093445

>>13093293

Snow Crash, Synners, Transmetropolitan, or just read other Gibson novels. What did you think of Mona Lisa? If you liked it, give Count Zero a try.

Also, given that you enjoy the atmosphere, try giving Blame! and Eden a read. Two masterpieces of the genre (personally, Blame! is my favourite cyberpunk work).

Some anon posted a cool list in another thread:
The Artificial Kid
Schismatrix
Islands in the Net
Holy Fire
HeadCrash
Ware Tetralogy
A Song Called Youth/The Eclipse Trilogy
Hardwired
When Gravity Fails
Synners
Metrophage
Mirrorshades (An anthology)
The Shockwave Rider
The Cold Cash War
Dr. Adder
Snow Crash
The Diamond Age
Cryptonomicon
City Come A' Walkin'

Also Altered Carbon if you want some hard-boiled cyberpunk.

>> No.13093479

>>13089504
Why are you so determined on harassing him?

>> No.13093489

>>13088106
Horizon Zero Dawn is pretty good SF. Game play is fun too

>> No.13093501

>>13093445
Not the guy you are responding to, but always a pleasure to meet another BLAME! connoisseur.

I haven;t read Eden of the East, tell me more about it, what makes it a great cyberpunk manga?

>> No.13093517

>>13093420
https://mega.nz/#F!51Q0waSI!4Ut-eePQr9YSjHJJTQs7Ew

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>>13086919
post more space cats

>> No.13093526

>>13093445
Damn, this is super thorough. I'll probably hit up Snow Crash next, since I'm a big VR enthusiast.

Thanks a lot! I also think I'd like BLAME! a lot.

>> No.13093538

>>13093517
you're just posting this to get bullied for the contents of every folder beginning with P aren't you?

>> No.13093557

>>13093108
Yeah, it’s a fun enough sci-fi fantasy mix. It drags a bit around the third book and the ending is pretty meh. Has some pretty great moments though.

>> No.13093602

>ebook release delayed until several weeks after paperback
>still send out hundreds of ARCs to random goodreads users
this is happening more and more with new books, anyone managed to get onto the review copy mailing lists for a publisher?

>> No.13093610

>>13093602
list some authors that do this because this is literally the first time im hearing about this. especially since amazon has a print on demand service that handles hard covers for you. they do all types and sizes. from pocket book to hardback.

>> No.13093722

Should I try and read the expanse books or just watch the show?

The author who wasn't daniel abraham kinda felt underwhelming

>> No.13093822

>>13087450
What the fuck I've had sex multiple times and I still feel like a stranger in this world and society. Did I have sex wrong?

>> No.13093838

>>13087781
>While we're talking about sci-fi, is there any sci-fi author with good prose?
Leigh Brackett. I've read her husband and it was the most trite, drab soup I've ever had the misfortune of laying my eyes on, but she is truly wonderful, huge surprise. Plots suck but I never read anything for the plot anyway, I'm not an adolescent or young adult.

>> No.13093879 [DELETED] 

fao: anyone who has read the third stormlight book

is the murder at the end of the second a big deal? I never got around to the 3rd but I can kinda see it putting me off if it matters

>> No.13093883

>>13093879
spoiler that shit nigger.

>> No.13093893

fao: anyone who has read the third stormlight book

is the murder at the end of the second a big deal? I never got around to the 3rd but I can kinda see it putting me off if it matters

>> No.13093900

>>13093893
No it’s not.

>> No.13093933

>>13091948
pocketbook

>> No.13093948

>>13093893
3rd book is trash. Drop stormlight

>> No.13093995

>>13093948
it's going on as an absolute last resort book and I've already got like 25 in a folder called "Need to Finish" ahead of it
Hopefully the 4th will be out before I consider it but I'll probably break the kindle before then anyway

>> No.13094011

>>13093995
Well expect nothing good. I had low expectations coming in from the WoR and it still disappointed me.

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>haven't read a fantasy novel that has hooked me and left me so absorbed I start to neglect basic hygiene and social interactions

>> No.13094072

Remember that time in Wise Man's Fear when Ambrose slipped a vaccine into Kvoth's beer causing him to develop a raging case of autism the day of a big interview? Good shit.

I like the books but that was just ridiculous

>> No.13094231

There's a French translation of Malazan being done right now by a fan who managed to get himself published professionally, apparently he does an excellent job. They release one volume every six months, and the third one just came out.
Should I get into it? What are the pros and cons?

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Is this good?

>> No.13094327

>>13094072
What? I don't remember this shit. What interview did Kvothe have at the University?

>> No.13094337

>>13093948
>>13093995
>>13094011
Imagine being this snooty
the third book was good. You can't tell me the last act wasn't blood pumping, especially Dalinar's scene with Odium.

>> No.13094352

>>13094327
readmissions.

>> No.13094480

>>13094352
What did Kvothe end up doing under the influence?

>> No.13094501

>>13094322
Yes. Starts off fantastically well but doesn't quite hold that level throughout. Nevertheless, it's a good read, just temper your expectations a bit as it gets tamer as the story progresses.

>> No.13094533

>>13094480
Buy a whole pie, take his shirt off, and tell Fela he wants to take her shirt off and suck on her tits. Luckily she understands something is horribly wrong and trades her timeslot with his so he has time for it to wear off. However, it still has residual side effects, so during the interview he threatens to set professor asshole on fire for calling him a racial slur

>> No.13094549

>>13093110
>photos and media is needed to read files from internal memory. storage is needed to read files from an sd card or if there is more than one partition on the devices for data.
I know. That's why I said it only wanted stuff it needed to function from. Then I saw network access.

>on my phone it only has the two storage permissions and works fine. never even asked about the other permissions besides preventing the device from sleeping.
Use apk permission remover when installing apps. It shows everything.

>> No.13094570

>>13094549
>Use apk permission remover when installing apps. It shows everything.
on android 8+ you can see all permissions an app could request in the permissions settings. theres no need for any extra apks. the permission setting show you which permission an app can utilize and which are granted or rejected. go to an app, select show info, press the permissions tab and there are all permissions that have been granted in that list, if you press the three dots on the top right you can enable it to show you all the permissions that the app can use. permissions not shown in the settings are not granted.
by default only storage should be granted.

>> No.13094582

>>13094549
do you have usage statistics enabled?
theres an option in the readera settings to enable usage statistics to be sent to the developer.
it wont request internet permissions if that setting is disabled. it wont even use a single byte of data.

>> No.13094584

>>13094337
It was a slog. Especially when you had to read through Ms schizophrenia Split personality.
Also Sanderson is being forced by publishers to be "inclusive", so expect a wheelchair bound Knight errant.

>> No.13094618

>>13094570
Oh. So google built inma permissions remover in the os? Neato. But I will still install a firewall app and blacklist any app that I don't want internet access.

>> No.13094669

>>13094549
You can just restrict internet access manually, don't let the app use mobile data or wifi. It still works and you won't have any network issues that you're so worried about. Full network access is quite common among apps anyway, it's the apps that ask for contact data, location data, mic access, permission to make call/messages that are the scary ones.

>> No.13094763

>>13094584
>Sanderson is being forced by publishers to be "inclusive"
wtf

>> No.13094767

>>13094533
Fuck I remember now, I need a big tittie Fela gf

>> No.13094813

>>13094584
>Also Sanderson is being forced by publishers to be "inclusive"
No publisher is doing any such thing, to Sanderson least of all. Mormon boys books are already sanitized to the extreme without the need for any intervention.
You're just telling yourself that because you're probably some weeb trash that likes his books and can't accept that he's a shit writer.
He tried writing a "complicated" character because he was always being criticized for his usual bland af 2d characters and ended up with the mess that is Shallan.

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Are there any novels like Stand Still Stay Silent?

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Any books with a similar feel to the Black Company series? More or less something about a roving band of mercenaries or fighters and their various adventures?

Inb4 Hammer’s Slammers. I’m reading through it right now and it’s good, but with the shift in characters it’s hard to really get into. I finished up what feels like the first set of stories starting with Jenne and ending with Hammer taking over as president and just can’t really get into caring about a new group of characters in the same universe right now.

In return I give you this gem I found in the fantasy section of Seattle Pop Culture museum.

>> No.13095092

>>13094813
If he was weeb trash he’d be singing the praises of Rofthuss. I’m not going to pretend that Sanderson is high literature, but there’s a lot worse you could be reading too.

That being said Shallan is fucking awful. Shallan is so terrible you could replace any of her chapters with another chapter of Kaladin moping about and it’d be an improvement.

>> No.13095101

>>13094813
I couldn't care less about complicated characters I just want plot twists and cool sequences

>> No.13095117

>>13095069
I hate this fatass so much
he's become like Perlman, all he does is shitpost about Trump on Twitter, and does stupid shit like running an LGBT bookshop whatever the fuck that is

>> No.13095168

>>13095117
Hey, if you were a hack who wrote himself into a literary corner wouldn’t you do everything you could to distract people from that fact?

>> No.13095221

>Moonset found me squatting on the paving stones, groaning. Every batch of batter was looser than the last, and tasted fouler. By the time the sun came up, I was trying to bake brown water.

well /sffg/, I was complaining that I wasn't having fun writing. It's certainly something...

>> No.13095319

Are the other Hyperion novels worth it?

>> No.13095323

>>13095168
He can still wrap it up with the last book, make it 1500 pages and conclude the Chandrian stuff, show us the king killing and whatever happened that led him to hide as an innkeeper. These three are the only major plot points that need attention.

>> No.13095333

>>13095069
Try The Grey Bastards. I couldn't get past the first page because all the cussing made it seem really immature, but you might like it.

>> No.13095385

It's time for real birdboi hours.

>> No.13095396

>>13095323
Good luck with that. This whole series was suppose to be what, ten books? He’s already wrote two and hasn’t even moved him out of not hogwarts yet. That means in one book he’d need to move Kvothe out of school, team him up with a legendary band of adventures, have him learn all the other true names, bring the Chandrain stuff to a close, bring the Denna bullshit to a close, become a Kingkiller, and show his fall from grace in 1500 pages. Is that doable? Probably, but keep in mind how the current books have been paced.

Although, I guess the second half of the last book saw him go from relative nobody to a trusted-then untrusted-advisor to a king, who nailed a sex god, and mastered the art of sex crazed not quite ninjas. So maybe he could pull it off, if he wasn’t a hack.

>> No.13095446

I'm 47% through Dune according to my Kindle and man I see the potential in this, but it's so boring when a character other than Jessica is the focus. No spoilers, but does it improve?

>> No.13095481

>>13095446
It has kind of a slow start but revs up quite, I'd say the Harkonen attack is when it really starts to get good.

>> No.13095487

>>13095446
As I rememer, yes, but it's been a while.

>> No.13095536

>>13095319
Fall of Hyperion is, but mostly to close the story. The others are a dumpster-fire.

>> No.13095581

>>13095536
Not that guy but if I read Hyperion and Fall of Hyperion, will the latter end in a cliffhanger of any kind? I have seen people say that only those 2 books in the Hyperion cantos are good, but starting a story that I don't intend to finish seems a bit odd.

>> No.13095591

anybody read pirate freedom? its kinda okay, I feel like it peaked when chris was just a sailor though and doing comfy sailor things. im on chapter 8. does it get a lot better later on?

>> No.13095593

>>13095446
It picks up in the second half but the whole Dune series is kind of a slow burn with a lot of politics and religion in it.
If you wanted something trashier with more explosions I guess you can check out the Dune books written by the son. I hated them.

>> No.13095608

>>13095593
I actually am in it for the politics and have liked what I've seen thus far. My only issue is that the current crop of characters, especially Paul, are uninteresting outside of Jessica and the now dead Duke Leto. Does Paul as a character improve and/or can I expect new characters to make this more interesting?

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Does anyone else feel like this was supposed to end differently, but the author chickened out or the publishers changed it? Because the first 75% was laser focused and on point, but the last 25% meandered to an unsatisfying conclusion. How hard would it have been to keep Floyd in Paris so he could properly absolve Custine and wrap up Greta’s plot, rather than sending him to Tanglewood where he basically does nothing for 100 pages except explain sound waves? Reynolds abandoned so many of his earlier plot elements in favour of a mediocre chase, and he missed a lot of opportunities to give his characters some closure. It just felt really lacking. Hoping the other book of his I bought is more on point.

>>13095608
As the series grinds on (real spoiler) Duncan Idaho becomes a very central (and interesting) character.

>> No.13095813

>>13090278
Are these books sci fi or fantasy?

>> No.13095820

>>13095813
Both, but more future fantasy than anything, really.

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Someone give me a book to read.

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>>13088106
Battle for Wesnoth and... pic related.

>> No.13096008

Any books where the main character or characters are assholes but not the entire world around them too? It seems like it's always a package in grimderp fantasy for some stupid reason, just lessens the pov characters when everyone else is the same exact shit as well.

>> No.13096046

>>13096008
Monument by Ian Graham

>> No.13096059

>>13095851
Dumb frogposter

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>>13095851
Here you go.

>> No.13096134

>>13095813
Both. The genres should never have been separated desu.

>> No.13096397

>>13094813
>No publisher is doing any such thing, to Sanderson least of all.
It shows how much of a newfag you are. He was already forced to put in a gay character, and he will add disabled ones, and other "inclusive" shit later. Hope you enjoy, publishing houses are the bane of creative authors.

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>>13096397
>publishing houses are the bane of creative authors.
Maybe, what does that have to do with Sanderson though?
Ngl, you calling someone newfag while defending Sanderson's bullshit as publisher influence is peak comedy.

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>>13096434
It's ironic that you're using my own picture against me.
Because I'm not saying "sanderhack" you think I'm a rebbit user, newfag? When this general was made we discussed Sanderson every thread. There was a small minority always crying about Sanderson, but they were ignored. Sanderson discussion has fallen off because he is putting out YA books nobody asked for, and oath breaker was a shot show. Now you believe because you post "first for sanderfag" at the top of every thread, the entire general is anti Sanderson? Go fuck your deluded self. The minority autisticly screaming voice doesn't speak for the general.

>> No.13096516

>>13096008
Sandkings

>> No.13096561
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>>13096473
>Sanderson discussion has fallen off because he is putting out YA books nobody asked for, and oath breaker was a shot show.
Sanderson has been putting out trash YA right since the beginning, newfag. What do you think Mistborn is? Thanks to shit eating weebs like you that buy his books, he's the biggest name in fantasy. He doesn't have to give a shit about what any publisher wants him to put in his books, if he's putting in something it's because he wants to, pretending otherwise and believing he has been corrupted by publishers is nothing but your delusion.

He's ALWAYS been the hack that never quite grasped the meaning of "show don't tell". Massive infodumps, awful characters, autistic world building instead of plot and over the top anime sequences to top it all has been his shtick since day 1.

>> No.13096662

>>13096561
Mistborn isn't YA though.

>> No.13096796

>>13094322
I found it to be good
kind of like Latro, if Latro took place over centuries and he had magic powers

>> No.13096843

>ctrl f
>stars my destination
>not found

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>tfw reading a book that contains some romance
>romance takes over the book and the interesting stuff that drew me in gets pushed to the side
What is it with romance and it fucking up perfectly good books? Mind you, a lot of books have some romance that doesn't do this, but what is it about romance?
On a moar positive note, I've read all that's available of the Foreigner series (pic related). Is Cherryh's other work similar to it?

>> No.13096904

>>13096893
>implying not just complaining for the sake of it
what supposed book was it

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>>13096904
sorry for late reply, went to /tg/ and didn't bother to check back til now because slow board
Now I Rise
second book in this series that posed the question, "what if Vlad the Impaler was a stronk wahmen?"
first book wasn't especially cringy, though it's no high, refined art
second book was all jerking off over Mehmet and muh feels (also Constantinople was shit and practically deserved to fall, baka Christfags)
I came for fun times with pyschotic she-Vlad, not her and a literally gay Radu mooning after a conquerer

>> No.13097007

>>13096893
>The Destroyer
>premise is about genociding elves
>best part is the elf romance
I am fine with it. Actually, I love it.

>>13096958
>second book was all jerking off over Mehmet and muh feels (also Constantinople was shit and practically deserved to fall, baka Christfags)
>I came for fun times with pyschotic she-Vlad, not her and a literally gay Radu mooning after a conquerer
Sounds like you are reading literature for womanfolk and complaining about its romance not appealing to you.

>> No.13097017

>>13096958
>Dark, gritty, and seriously badass - Buzzfeed
I would pay to NOT read this.

>> No.13097084

>>13097007
>elv loving
if it works, it works; again, my problem is where everything else moves to the background
>lit for women
Oh god, have I fallen so far? All I wanted was light entertainment
It should have fucking billed itself as romance instead of faking me out with glimpses of something half-decent. it's paranormal romance all over again
>>13097017
>>buzzfeed
that's awful and cringy, what the hell were they thinking. I never bother to look at the quotes on covers, anyway
>pay
I only buy books that I enjoy after reading them, so dodged a shekel-bullet there
>go look at the first cover
>New York Times bestseller
I ignored all these red flags
kill me now

>> No.13097134

>>13097084
>New York Times bestseller
To be fair somehow every book ever published seems to get that accolade.

>> No.13097223

Thread slave get to it. I want to shit on old books.

>> No.13097282

>>13097223
Zoomergang rise up

>> No.13097291

>>13097223
I'm retired, I'm sure the new thread anon's got this.

>> No.13097298

>>13096662
>Mistborn isn't YA though
Bro...that's kinda cringe

>> No.13097316

>>13096561
Who cares, I read fantasy for entertainment not some Iliad tier snooty shit. I want plot twists and action sequences that are memorable

>> No.13097591

>>13095656
>Dune spoiler
That's good to know, I'll keep at it then.

>> No.13097762

>>13097291
You did it for a couple weeks and you're complaining? I made the threads for years. It's on page 8. Get your ass up and make the new thread.

>> No.13097783

>>13096561
>the autistic spreg who likes conan and renames images to Malazan and bean plants is also the "sanderfag a hack anon"
Not even surprised. Only someone with autism levels of obsession would be doing that shit for literal years. I bet you the maas fag too.

>> No.13097847

made a new general because none of you got around to it
>t. lurker
>>13097840

>> No.13097883

>>13097847
New fags. The old thread goes at the top of the previous threads pile.

>> No.13097896

>>13095446
The best books are the 4th and the 5th books. Yep, it improves dramatically but it's a slooooog. I enjoyed every bit though, I'm a sucker for political-maneuvering-scheming player-of-words plots. I'm not much for explosions and shit.

>> No.13097905

>>13096561
Mistborn is in my top 5 best sff books of all time. I don't care what you ignorant idiots think.

>> No.13098249

>>13086919
WAIT GENE WOLFE INVENTED PRINGLES AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA