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13060283 No.13060283 [Reply] [Original]

Is there a bleaker fantasy series?

The Second Apocalypse impressed me with how depraved and doomed things could get without degenerating into "Everyone is a murdering nihilist or gray-morality mercenary in *this* fantasy universe, this is all brutal and bloody and shit"-shtick or generic grimdark.

>> No.13060290

Butterfly is now thinking about my big cock. She can’t stop thinking about it!!!!!! :3

>> No.13060373

It's one of the most original fantasy works in decades, unlike GRRM the darkness has something to say

>> No.13060532

I wasn't impressed by it. I decided not to continue the series after that prostitute finally sees that guy she was looking for and fails to get his attention because he was distracted. Instead of acting like a human being, she assumed the worst and ran off crying like an idiot. Other than that I was bored and finding out the entire next novel consisted of the army just moving from point A to B was enough.

>> No.13060724

>>13060283
>The Second Apocalypse impressed me with how depraved and doomed things could get
Why is that a good thing?

>> No.13060925

> character name: Anasûrimbor Kellhus
immediately dropped

>> No.13060934

>>13060724
Because the material is more depraved than GRRM while actually being more substantial.

>> No.13060993

>>13060934
I don't know what the substance is.

>> No.13061031

>>13060993
the Hundred are Gnostic archons, metaphysics of time, language, magic as ontology, ontology as magic, eschatology, the death of meaning, transhumanism, the confluence of faith, belief, and determination with free will and agency, the application of his Blind Brain Theory to divinities, etc.


There's so much.

>> No.13061044

>>13060925
Same here. The cover looked classy and the description was encouraging, but I would feel embarassed reading a book featuring someone called Anasûrimbor Kellhus.

>> No.13061052

>>13061031
I'm talking about the "depraved and doomed things" in itself. What is the good or substance of that? These things you list can be in a novel that isn't depraved.

>> No.13062004

>>13060925
What's wrong with it?

>> No.13062016

>>13062004
Not him, but I don't like obviously made-up fantasy names that I have no idea how to pronounce. Either go to the linguistic lengths Tolkien did and make names that feel believable, or do something like ASOIAF and base names around English words.

>> No.13062675

>>13062016
Bakker is fantastic with names, guess you got autism filter'd

>> No.13062711

I'm beyond exhausted of unrelenting edginess in modern fantasy. If you want to read a story about impending doom that isn't a slog and horribly edgy then check out The Broken Sword by Poul Anderson. There's two versions: the original written in the 50s and a revised version from the 70s. I've only read the 70s version which is apparently more "mature" and written to make better sense than the original, but the original is apparently more poetic and "pagan." So choose your poison.

>> No.13063599

>that part where his mom is coming on to him but he realizes she has a dick