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>didn't start with the greeks
I went straight into Evola/Nietzsche/Guenon/Spengler when first getting into literature. Should I go back and start over with Plato?

>> No.13046255

>>13046246
you've already lost

>> No.13046284

>>13046246
Start with the Five Dialogues collection

>> No.13046310

>>13046246
you gotta reread all that shit except for the traditionalist

>> No.13046478

>>13046284
Could I start with the last days of socrates? I hear that's good

>> No.13046697

>>13046246
What do you have to lose from reading it? Every retard undergrad has read it anon its not hard

>> No.13046708

>>13046246
No shit
All of those people are in one way or another responding to Plato
The Republic is arguably the most important work of political philosphy in history

>> No.13046727 [DELETED] 

>>13046246
>I went straight into Evola/Nietzsche/Guenon/Spengler

>>13046255
>>13046310
this

>> No.13046746

Read it and watch this along side it.
https://youtu.be/nVQKbQVc2_w
After which you will probably need to re-read all of those people, since they are all building off Plato.

>> No.13046763

>>13046746
Btw forgot to add
Starting with the Greeks isnt a meme its always said for a reason, philosophy is all building blocks, if you dont start with the foundation how do you expect to fully comprehend the roof tiles? Sorry for the shitty analogy.

>> No.13046892

Since you have to ask to make yourself do it, don't bother with Plato yet.

>> No.13047053

>>13046246
Most of the republic is shit you only need some of it (this goes for most of his dialogues)
Read Meno -> Phaedo -> Republic -> Sophist -> Parmenides but you really only need like 10 pages of each of them

>> No.13047085

>>13047053
yeah this is the impression I get from skimming the book

A lot of it looks redundant since a lot of it is ingrained in culture probably

>> No.13047098

>>13046246
you scared of a book? read it.

>> No.13047127

>>13047085
I find aristotle's ideas are more so ingrained into the western education system at least.

>> No.13047193

>>13046246

PARMENIDES

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>>13047053
>>13047085

>> No.13047411

I would suggest you to start with Meno. It's much shorter and easier.

>>13047193
That is one of his more difficult dialogues

>> No.13047462

>>13047411
>I would suggest you to start with Meno. It's much shorter and easier.
dude thank you for the suggestion, I found a $5 copy of it and ordered it. I didn't feel like reading through the republic right now

>> No.13047465

honestly it’s better to have read those dudes first than to have started plato and gotten bored.

>> No.13047507

Which would be the best editions of Republic and other playing work? In terms of quality and translation

>> No.13047627

>>13047411

Yes, once you know everything you can then know anything.

>> No.13047634

your understanding of plato would be tainted by all that trash you read so there's really no point desu

>> No.13047714

>>13046246
I think you should read plato anyway because he's fun to read

>> No.13047795

>>13047462
I hope you'll like it. It's a good entry point into Plato work.

>> No.13048476

No. Just go to Nietzsche.