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What books would cause the most social conflict if the masses read them? By conflict I mean a an uprising against the current establishment whether justified or not, shootings, etc.. What would be the worst books for a mass of people to read and act out it's philosophy? Let's assume the books are not misinterpreted as well

>> No.13039123

>>13039117
SCUM manifesto

>> No.13039131

>>13039117
Stranger in a strange land

>> No.13039136

WH40K lore.

>> No.13039157

are we assuming they suddenly have the ability to understand difficult texts? that's the main problem, they're too dumb to understand anything truly revolutionary, which is why they remain the way they are, not knowing any better.

if they are all suddenly genuises though, just make them read the bible. normies generally do not larp in religion, they keep their sensibilities mainly because they got unironically baited by this shit. so now everybody is a genius, they lose faith in god since they don't do the intellectual larp, become fedoras, and society goes further into the humanistic hellscape and thus niggers are setting cars on fire in downtown NYC by this time tomorrow unto perpetuity because morals are completely dead and everyone has embraced the beast

>> No.13039169

>>13039157
i think you are the one who has trouble understanding difficult texts

>> No.13039183

Plato's Republic

>> No.13039186

>>13039169
I think you are gay and your digits confirm this

>> No.13039198

My diary desu

>> No.13039207

>>13039117
Probably still the Communist Manifesto

>> No.13039213

>>13039131
second post worst post

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13039221

>>13039117
White majorities across the west would wake up sharpish and the results would be quite ugly.

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13039277

>> No.13039289

Industrial Society and Its Future

>> No.13039296

>>13039207
probably. It's directed AT the masses so I think this is the best answer itt

>> No.13039404

>>13039123
/thread

>> No.13039466

>>13039277
based

>> No.13039514

>>13039117
structure of scientific revolutions by tom kuhn.

>> No.13039535

>>13039221
Why do you say this?

>> No.13039549

Quran. And I say this unironically.

>> No.13039556

>>13039117
Mein Kampf and Genealogy of Morals, Culture of Critique and Capital

>> No.13039563
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13039563

The Antichrist (pic unrelated)

>> No.13039788

>>13039117
the Bible

>> No.13039794

>>13039157
>>13039277
>>13039788
samefag, cringe and cuckedbyjewspilled
>inb4 mspaint screenshots

>> No.13039803

>>13039289
This is the one...

>> No.13039988

>>13039117
siege

>> No.13040083

>>13039117
THE FUCKING BIBLE LOL

>> No.13040266

>>13039117
prolly Mao or some shit

>> No.13040617

>>13039136
THIS

>> No.13040650

>>13039289
Came here for this
>>13039277
This would have the biggest impact but not cause the most havoc

>> No.13040665

>>13039289
Based.

>> No.13040697

>>13039221
This is the correct answer.

Schmitt is complicated. This book is a right wing super weapon. I’d hope it could inspire something better than Hitlerism or basic bitch ethnonationalism, maybe for something more in line with the vision of his biggest influence, Juan Donoso Cortes, but I think you’re right and his ideas would light whatever powder is dry and lying around. Could be horrible, or brilliant.

>> No.13040700

Industrial society and its future

>> No.13040704

>>13039117
Haven't read a book that would cause havoc in that sense but I haven't read many. maybe something conspiratory

>> No.13040720

great thread.
the Anarchist's cookbook.
also this: >>13039157
holy mother of based.

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>> No.13040731

>>13039289

Didnt read the og manifesto but read Antitech Revolution. It is extremely weakly argued in a lot of respects. The most solid argument is the idea of a self propagating systems ruling society and how little we actually influence them.

His argument for a revolution is delusional and srlf contradicting according to his own precepts and rules. Beyond that his own argument of self propagating systems defeats a revolution of that type.

Lots of important ideas but normies will reject it for being too obscene and most intelligent people will reject a lot of it, especially the revolutionary agitation, and for good reason.

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13040732

>>13040700

>> No.13040739

>>13039183
Why? I want an explanation for this one

>> No.13040760

No book could do this today cause of the way I see it either people are too stupid to produce their own actions are to happy with the status quo or are to untrusting of actions or ideas that come from an outside source

>> No.13040822

>>13040739
It's a base argument for system of totalitarian utopia as a direct criticism of democracy. If most people read Plato and internalized his arguments, the blind worship for our western democracy would diminish in favor of some sort of enlightened dictatorship.

Of course Mein Kampf or Starship Troopers present similar argument, but I'm not convinced the overemphasis on race or militarism respectively would make it that palatable for the masses - Plato being much more sober when it comes to that.

>> No.13040897

>>13040732
Doesn’t refute any of his points

>> No.13040915

>>13040732
Any retard can see this. People just like him because "muh nature good, city bad"

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13040920

>>13040732
>mfw I was in that thread
>mfw I was in this one

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>>13040723

Karl Marx stole all of his decent ideas from Friedrich Schiller and the German Romantics.

Communism is a Jewish plot to facilitate the creation of a New World Order in which every Jew will have 2,800 goyim slaves, as according to the Talmud. It is no coincidence that the vast majority of communist revolutionaries in Germany and Russia were of Jewish ethnicity.

The Communist Manifesto is trash for edgy undergraduates.

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13041021

>>13040997
Have sex

>> No.13041067

>>13039131
Dude hippie ayy lmaos
lmao

>> No.13041083

>>13039157
Poorly written post
I feel compelled to inform you that we've been in the end times for about 2000 years now.

>> No.13041089

>>13041021
When is this "have sex" posting going to end, it's so tediuous and boring
I swear I'm not baiting for a "have sex" (You)

>> No.13041096

Imagine thinking that you yourself are somehow above "the masses," and that people just blindly believe the last thing they read with no material, cultural, or social basis shaping and filtering their worldview

>> No.13041099

>>13041096
Ok now what?

>> No.13041101

>>13040997
Even if you are being ironic just take it back to /x/

>> No.13041119

>>13041099
Someone could read every book listed here, and page A1 of yesterday's New York Times would still cause more destruction.

>> No.13041123

>>13040920
>tfw i was post 1300..001

>> No.13041132

Proudhon, Marx, Bakunin.

>> No.13041158

>>13040997
and what would that matter to the masses?

>> No.13041198
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13041198

>muh social theories
>muh political theories
So far, everyone here is wrong.
There is only one thing that would cause radical change, and that is minimizing the amount of people working. A book like pic related, if even a quarter of everyone took advantage of it, would fundamentally change society.

This, unlike the useless drivel presented thus far, requires nothing drastic, and people have a rational incentive to engage in it--- FREE MONEY.

This would cause the most havoc all without a revolution, without even lifting a single finger.

>> No.13041257

>>13040822
>I'm not convinced the overemphasis on race or militarism respectively would make it that palatable for the masses
The masses are currently conditioned. Once the conditioning is changed/broken they will adapt. Many would be willing to try something new if they could escape their fear of the status quo checking them.

>> No.13041274

>>13039117
passing of the great race

>> No.13041276

>>13040732
This is probably the worst post ever screencapped.

>> No.13041302

>>13041257
Of course democracy is conditioned. However the illusion presented by democracy is at least somewhat congruent with almost universal values of decency.

When it comes to ethnic genocide and militarism, most people will recoil on the grounds of basic golden rule - it's not very nice to genocide populations based on race (separation/segregation, on the other hand is almost inverse sentiment - see white flight, apartheid). Neither perpetually initiating pointless conflict as a matter of central policy would fly anymore.

>> No.13041319

>>13041198
Wait... Does this book basically teach you how to fake a disability for NEETbux?

>> No.13041469

>>13041319
Of course not. Disability fraud is an egregious and serious problem and the authors of this fine tome would never encourage their seminal work to be used for such nefarious and evil ends.

>> No.13041473

The cringe pedo book they posted yesterday

>> No.13041482

>>13041473
You mean A Walking Aphrodisiac? That shit is harmless, it aint even as pedo as it is sacrliegious but of course in the wrong hands...

>> No.13041499

>>13041473
>>13041482
I have so many questions on what this even is.

>> No.13041510

>>13041499
The shit they posted on another thread look it up on the catalogue

>> No.13041556

>>13041510
Thanks, anything that makes it noteworthy?

>> No.13041608

>>13041556
Saying that the age of consent will be lowered due to all the celebrities normalizing it and comparing homosexuality's journey to acceptance to pedo's hypothetical future acceptance. But thats just on the first part of the book

>> No.13041614

>>13039117
Dumb frogposter

>> No.13041615

>>13041608
>dude the celebrities and fags say it's ok!
Cringe, bluepilled, and retarded.

>> No.13041626

>>13041615
Yup, but its not like its a serious book either

>> No.13041637

>>13041608
Reminds me of thurston moore voting j mascis for president

>> No.13041639

>>13041626
>I was only pretending to be retarded, it's not serious guise!

>> No.13041686

The anglo-american establishment and maybe that other book that Carrol wote but its name ishard to remember

>> No.13041703
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13041703

>>13040731
>no proofreading
>no specifics
>appeals to intelligence without rationale
Weak

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13041746

>>13041198
i like the cut of your jib

>> No.13041839

>>13040920
ayy same for both
how many people browse /lit/ wtf it doesn't seem like many people actually post here. 99-1 rule.

>> No.13041890

>>13040732
This post was typed by roastie hands

>> No.13041902

>>13040731
I read the og, i find his criticism of technology totally agreable, but you're right on wrt its problems. In one of the early chapters he makes a distinction between small changes that only forestall the inevitable trend of history, and large changes that dramatically alter its course forever.

He provides no rational argument for why his revolution would be that large change, when it clearly would be the small change potentially writ large, in how many years it takes humanity to recover.

But as long as pursuing technology gives some individuals/population an advantage, it is pretty much inevitable it will be picked up on again after the revolution.

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13041946

Hegel

>> No.13041958

>>13039289
it would get a big ‘so what’
i think the way it was written, it’s extreme logicality would actually be a turn off
hearts and minds, right?

>> No.13041972

>>13039123
>scum manifesto
kek what an insane incel that broad was. fuckin creep couldn't brain up enough to live in a man's world so she decides to burn it down. absolutely bottom of the barrel tier feminism.

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13041987

Ahem

>> No.13042002

>>13041987
ecology is the most brainlet shit ever

>> No.13042052

>>13039131
>Dude space Jesus but we have tons of phy sex

>> No.13042170 [DELETED] 

Was it Nexon or Regan who talked shit about the jews

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>>13042002

>> No.13042677

>>13039117
The holy Quran.

>> No.13042680

>>13040997
The manifesto sucks, but Kapital is a good time

>> No.13042986

Such a book doesn't exist. Plenty of deeply controversial and eye-opening literature exists, and yet it's not like society has sprung up into a new revolution every time one gets published. For better or for worse, most people simply don't give a fuck about these sorts of issues.

>> No.13042998

>>13042002
Your post takes that particular honour

>> No.13043088

>>13039117
any of them? the masses are woefully stupid, anon. if say, 90% of the global population were literate there would be havoc of the highest degree. you would be amazed at the number of citizens who haven't read a single book in their lives.

>> No.13043343

Behold a Pale Horse

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13043382

> /lit/ thinks it is above the masses because it reads some books literally no one cares about

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13044056

>>13039117
Definitely "Industrial Society and Its Future" There's absolutely no question here. But also really anything written by Kaczynski in the last 25 years since his arrest, like his books "Technological Slavery" and "Anti-Tech Revolution"

>> No.13044064

>>13039117
Gravity's Rainbow

>> No.13044105

>>13043343
based

>> No.13045378

>>13043382
The masses are retards, that's why they don't care, this is a fact.

>> No.13045388

>For Christians
The Subversion of Christianity by Jacques Ellul
>For everyone else
The Bible

>> No.13045391

>>13043382
See >>13041198

>> No.13045444

Max Stirner
Nick Land
Philipp Mainländer
Georges Bataille
Jerome

>> No.13045495

>>13045378
NOT AN INSTRUCTION MANUAL!!!!!!!1

>> No.13045551

>>13045378
See >>13045391

>> No.13045554

>>13039556
>Nietzsche
lol

>>13039988
>>13039136
these

>> No.13045609

>>13039117
Libido Dominandi

>> No.13045788

>>13045609
Is this just a meme or is it actually worth a read. I saw it on a chart with some Guenon-related materials .

>> No.13045965

>>13043343

>> No.13046015

>>13041890
Based beyond measure.

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13046076

>>13039289

>> No.13046109
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13046109

>implying it's not le ego and its own

>> No.13046417

>>13045788
It's really worth it imho.

>> No.13046427

>>13039556
Imagine if the Talmud was translated honestly and everyone read it after learning about the history of Jews in Europe

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>>13046109
lmao what anime is this from?

Or is it an edit? :(

>> No.13046597

>>13039157
If people are so smart, wouldn't they have the intelligence and empathy to live according to some sort of Hegelian-esque morality of empathy?
Religion's only necessary to pacify dumb people, imo.

>> No.13046634

>>13040997
If only this is how Peterson's critique of the communist manifesto could've gone down. Shit would've been way more entertaining than what we actually got.

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>>13039117

>> No.13046658

>>13041096
they do?

>> No.13046906

1984

>> No.13047224

Magna carta.
Literally has nothing to do with the foundation of a free society. In fact it even has policies in it designed to oppress jews and peasants. Only 3 clauses of the magna carta are still legal. In fact magna carta only became relevant after the 1900s when esoteric liberals strawmanned it into a holy relic of ancient english liberalism. At the time no one knew how to read it due to the antiquated language so everyone just believed whatever they heard about it was true.

>> No.13047238

>>13039556
>Nietzsche and Nazis lol
This meme has to die

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13047355

>>13047238
Leave Nie-Chan alone!

>> No.13048317

>>13047238
>Capital
Was Marx a nadzi too?

>> No.13048593

>>13039117
The masses actually reading any books.

>> No.13048993

>>13047224
>"Jews can't prey on the children of deceased debtors with usury"
>oppress jews

>> No.13049837

>>13041096
>people just blindly believe the last thing they read
You have just described most conservatives in the southeastern U.S. Rednecks will believe anything they're told.

>> No.13050073

wish the masses read democracy the god that failed

>> No.13050568

>>13039221
I was pleasantly surprised when my professor included this book in my 19th 20th cent phil class. This book doesnt have to be viewed as right wing facist shieet

>> No.13050572

>>13050073
Any sort of libertarian mass movement would cause much havoc right now because state power is large and big segments of the population have become dependent.
Hoppe could be good, but Schmitt also as another anon posted.
Basically anything that btfo the claims of 'we live in a society' and reveals power structures.

>> No.13050619

>>13046472
fucking idiot