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>Isaiah 14:12 New American Standard Bible (NASB)

>“How you have fallen from heaven,
O [a]star of the morning, son of the dawn!
You have been cut down to the earth,
You who have weakened the nations!

>a. Isaiah 14:12 Heb Helel; i.e. shining one

Who does "star of the morning, son of the dawn!" refer too?

>> No.13025637

>>13025633
Satan

>> No.13025644

>>13025633

TO LUCIFER, BUT THE PHRASE «YOU WHO HAVE WEAKENED THE NATIONS» IS INDICATIVE OF CONFLATION WITH SATAN, AS IS ORDINARY IN JUDEOCHRISTIANITY.

>> No.13025645

Christ is descending to save Sofia. (Holy Wisdom)

>> No.13025689

It refers to Attar from Caanantie, and wider semitic mythology. In most myths he replaces or usurps the head of the pantheon but is quickly ousted or found unworthy and is linked to the the planet Venus or the morning star. This basic dynamic of a god attempting to replace another was retained when the Hebrews transitioned toward monotheism and eventually became the basis for Satan's rebellion against El/Yahweh.

>> No.13025720

>>13025644
It says Lucifer in the KJV but it seems to be an awkward translation of Helel. Who is Helel? Is it really Satan?
>>13025645
Why would Christ weaken nations?

>> No.13025774

>>13025720

«HELEL», OR «ELELETH», IS ONE OF THE NAMES OF SATAN; IALDABAOTH FASHIONED HIM TO MINISTER THE KOSMOS, BUT ELELETH/SATAN REBELLED AGAINST IALDABAOTH, IN A FAILED ATTEMPT TO USURP THE LATTER'S POSITION AS SUPREME DOMINVS, AND WAS CAST DOWN FROM HIS POST IN THE FIRMAMENT, VOWING TO DESTROY HUMANS.

EVENTUALLY, IALDABAOTH, AND SATAN/ELELETH, ENTERED IN MUTUAL CONTRACT, IN WHICH IT WAS ESTABLISHED AN ALLIANCE BETWEEN THE SATANISTS, AND THE IALDABAOTHISTS, CONSISTING IN LICENSE TO ELELETH/SATAN BY IALDABAOTH TO DO AS HE WILLS, UNDER THE CONDITION THAT ELELETH/SATAN ESTABLISHES A SYSTEM IN PRO OF IALDABAOTH'S DOMINION —THE ZIONISTIC WORLD ORDER IS THAT SYSTEM.

>> No.13025898

>>13025774
Stop screaming you pseudo-gnostic faggot

>> No.13025933

>>13025898

?

THE ONLY SCREAMS ARE THE ONES IN YOUR MORBID LITTLE MIND.

>> No.13025954

>>13025633
Probably some ethnic foe to the east of whoever wrote the passage if we're being mundane and serious. Otherwise, it's something-something The Devil.