/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.13019880]

FEMALE AUTHORS EDITION
>What are you reading?
>List some books you liked that were written by female authors.
>Are there any good modern female writers?

Monthly Reading for April: We by Yevgeny Zamyatin

Monthly Reading books: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/15ZwgDZVXB-nLqjbgcqgntZDyTddd0eqP

Fantasy:
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Flowchart:
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Science Fiction:
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General:
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NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
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SF&F author listing with ratings and summaries:
http://greatsfandf.com/authors-full-list.php

Previously:
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[Anonymous No.13019887]

Are there any female Hard SF authors? It's probably the single most male dominated (fans and authors alike) genre so it would be interesting to see a female take on the genre.

[Anonymous No.13019906]

>>13019887
>Are there any female Hard SF authors?
Quite a few pre-70s.

[Anonymous No.13019909]

>>13019887
I've heard of Elizabeth Moon, but I haven't tried her. Hard scifi is already an extremely niche genre, I can't imagine that it sells too well.

[Anonymous No.13019913]

>>13019887
Uklg

[Anonymous No.13019921]

WTF? Have I been meme'd into reading Kane? Fuck you faggots.

In the first story I read, Kane is the biggest cucklord of all cucklords. His woman goes around town fucking strangers over and over and he allows it because he loves her.

In the second story I read, Kane is the midget sidekick bitch to a giant who dies fighting while Kane watches like a little bitch instead of helping him. His only contribution in the story is to moan and whine.

You assholes keep talking about manly protagonists and how nobody writes good ones anymore and THIS is your frame of reference?

[Anonymous No.13019928]

>>13019887
Judith Merril
Clare Winger Harris
Miriam Allen deFord
Gertrude Barrows Bennett

>It's probably the single most male dominated (fans and authors alike)
Horror has proportionally more male writers.
https://web.archive.org/web/20160307070541/http://www.torbooks.co.uk/blog/2013/07/10/sexism-in-genre-publishing-a-publishers-perspective

[Anonymous No.13019929]

>>13019921
Have you tried reading Boku no Pico?

[Anonymous No.13019938]

How much would people call me on my bullshit if I write a book where the main character is a human-chameleon capable of changing form at will?
I know
>tleilaxu face dancers
But I really, REALLY motherfucking love the concept of such a creature.
Well, I'm already almost finished with the book, but I have finished a second rereading of the dune series and it seems that the concept is already done and perfected and people would just jump on me for stealing.

[Anonymous No.13019940]

>>13019909
She writes Military sci-fi, wouldn't say it's hard though. She served in Marine Corps so she knows her shit so she knows her shit from an armed forces point of view and it comes across in her books.

[Anonymous No.13019943]

>>13019928
Thanks for the names and thanks also for the link.

[Anonymous No.13019945]

>>13019880
>Le Guin
>Fantasy
Le Guin was anything but SF and fantasy. The only thing she did was to push her bullshit feminist hippie agenda and promoting that cancer as new age literature.

[Anonymous No.13020009]

but you could pick up any of these, as they're all self-contained stories.

[Anonymous No.13020038]

>>13019928
Another reason horror is the best genre.

[Anonymous No.13020047]

>>13019945
>new age literature
Amen. Post-Yourcenar madness. Women and Spirituality, amirite ? Une vilaine chose.

[Anonymous No.13020063]

>>13019945
Agreed. Le Guin is just post-modern literature veiled under fantasy genre.

[Anonymous No.13020067]

>>13019150
>Denisovan type
I see you are a joe rogan fag.

[Anonymous No.13020076]

>>13019929
So you're the faggot that renames those open mouth male pics to some shit, then posts it when someone talks about kane and conan.

[Anonymous No.13020079]

>>13019945
>I'M SO TRIGGERED, TRIGGERED BY EVERYTHING I WET MY NAPPY
You know what /pol/tards and SJW retards have in common?

[Anonymous No.13020093]

>>13020079
>pulling the /pol/ card
wew.

[Anonymous No.13020106]

>>13020093

[Anonymous No.13020108]

>>13020093
>bullshit feminist
Means you are a /pol/tard.
>altright nazi
Means you are a tumblr retard.
Get that right in your triggered cunny?

[Anonymous No.13020113]

>>13019921
You should stick to Sanderson, incel.

[Anonymous No.13020118]

>>13019921
>In the first story I read, Kane is the biggest cucklord of all cucklords. His woman goes around town fucking strangers over and over and he allows it because he loves her.
lol that's not true at all.
>In the second story I read, Kane is the midget sidekick bitch to a giant who dies fighting while Kane watches like a little bitch instead of helping him. His only contribution in the story is to moan and whine.
Also not true. Did you just skim through these while jerking off to Blacked?

[Anonymous No.13020125]

>>13019945
She is the epitome of everything that went wrong with SF&F.

[Anonymous No.13020131]

>>13020113
>incel
>not wanting a woman who openly cuckolds you makes you an incel
I never read any Howard or Wagner books, but if this is the mentality it's fans has, I don't think I ever will. With all the recent shilling I was going to pick it up, but this will make me strike it off my reading list.

[Anonymous No.13020132]

>>13019921
If you can't read classics, then why don't you stick to Harry Potter, faggot?

[Anonymous No.13020139]

>>13020132
>>13020118
>>13020113
>>13019929
samefag

[Anonymous No.13020145]

>>13020139
Imagine having this much of a triggered inferiority complex. Here's your (You)

[Anonymous No.13020147]

>>13020131
You are very retarded and I don't you want anywhere near Howard or Wagner's books. Context is everything and since this retarded faggot >>13019921 couldn't grasp the context of the story, or even the character of Kane himself, I'm sure you will be no different. So yes you should stick to reading stories written for children like the schlock Sanderon writes. Those are much, MUCH simpler for you idiots to understand.

[Anonymous No.13020191]

>>13020113
>Disliking some cuck shit makes me an incel and a sandafag lover
Kane fag retarded logic at its best.

>>13020118
>lol that's not true at all.
Have you even read the short stories, that's exactly what happens. If anything this is proof you fags don't even read the shit you shill. kys

>>13020147
>but muh context

>Dragar's calloused hand imprisoned her slender wrist as she sought to rise from the rumpled bed. "Don't prance away like a contrite virgin, girl. Your rider has dismounted but for a moment's rest—then he's ready to gallop through the palace gates another time or more, before the sun drops beneath the sea." "Pretty, but I have to go," she protested. "Kane may grow suspicious..."

[Anonymous No.13020202]

>>13020191
lol you are so goddamn stupid. You really don't understand the context at all do you? I mean... AT ALL. Either you are genuinely stupid, or skimmed through the story, or didn't even finish it. Could be all of the above though I guess. Either way you're definitely retarded.

[Anonymous No.13020218]

>>13020202
To expound on this: Kane is the VILLAIN of the story. His SLAVE is trying to escape him and does so by attempting to seduce men to help her. If you can't see this obvious context then you are beyond help. This isn't some cuckold fetish shit you think it is. It's a tale of a woman trying to escape an evil man and trying to enlist the help of other men by seducing them.

[Anonymous No.13020225]

>>13020218
Also Kane DOES NOT love her. He has enslaved her for her companionship. Kane is incapable of loving anyone or anything.

[Anonymous No.13020237]

Oh and the story with the giant? Kane was injured and trapped so he couldn't have helped the fucking giant, you moron.

[Anonymous No.13020275]

Predictions for the final installment of the Firefall trilogy?
Here goes:
>Set several years after Blindopraxia
>Humans have completely lost control of vampires
>Portia running amok on Earth
>Remnants of the major governments moved to nearby colonies (the moon, stations, mars, planetary moons and asteroid belt)
>'Siri' returns and a recovered Jim Moore is at first overjoyed, but realises that it's not the same Siri that left on Theseus; Rorschach has gutted him or is mind controlling him or just straight up built a simulacrum
>First vampire child is born (not sure if major or minor plot point, but in there to show that the crucifix glitch, the alpha-cadherin pathway and the hardwired aggression have all been overcome or edited out of the vampire biology)

[Anonymous No.13020289]

>>13019945
You need this, anon. Apply liberally, until attitude change.

[Anonymous No.13020317]

>>13020202
>>13020218
>>13020225
Imagine being this much of a fucking retard that you're clueless about the shit you shill.

She's not his slave and Kane keeps her close because she will literally fucking die if she leaves him and it's implied that she has fucked a lot of different men over time and Kane allows it because it amuses her to taunt him and her amusement is reason enough for him to let her do as she wants.

Just admit you like reading cuck shit anon.

>>13020237
>Oh and the story with the giant? Kane was injured and trapped so he couldn't have helped the fucking giant, you moron.

He wasn't trapped, just useless. Be truthful anon, have you read the story or just skimmed it? This is straight from the book, before the fight.

>Dwassllir shoved his torch farther down the passage, then bent to Kane. A heave of his mighty shoulders drew back the imprisoning stone.

More proof that you're a brainlet shilling garbage,

[Anonymous No.13020330]

>kane and conan shills btfo
Damn. Today is a good day. I got to fuck this bitch that was teasing me for a year and now the homoerotic faggot soiboi shill gets btfo.

[Anonymous No.13020342]

>>13020317
>She's not his slave and Kane keeps her close because she will literally fucking die if she leaves him
She is his slave, you fucking idiot, and she has no idea she'll die if she leaves him. Kane literally stops her from leaving with the men she seduces until Kane finally had enough and told her to fuck off. He didn't love her; he just enjoyed her companionship until it became too much of a hassle even for him. And like I said; you don't even understand the context of Kane's character. Kane wouldn't give a shit about her sleeping with other men in and of itself because Kane has no feelings towards her. He's a villainous immortal incapable of love and couldn't care less about jealousy.
>He wasn't trapped, just useless.
>DURR OKAY YOU'RE RIGHT, BUT F-FUCK YOU
Seriously; stick to Sanderson. If something like Kane is 2deep4u then you're better off reading only plebbit recommendations.

[Anonymous No.13020347]

>>13020330
>too stupid to understand context
>I SURE SHOWED DEMZ
lol

[Anonymous No.13020351]

>>13020330

[Anonymous No.13020357]

>>13019938
anyone can tackle this dilemma?

[Anonymous No.13020360]

Is this what I have to use to get the audio version of this book? http://unsong.libsyn.com

[Anonymous No.13020375]

>>13020342
>>13020147
>>13020132
>>13020113
>such seething that you just keep repeating sanderson like it's some insult
Seething

[Anonymous No.13020385]

>>13020351
Hello >>13020076

[Anonymous No.13020399]

>Kane wouldn't give a shit about her sleeping with other men
Guys...should we tell him?

Besides, you're the dumb fuck that insisted that Kane didn't help the giant because he was trapped, your words not mine.
What actually happened was Kane stood and watched with a sword in his hand because he was scared shitless while the based giant fought barehanded (because he gave up his axe earlier to save Kane) against a giant sabercat, killed it and died from the battle wounds.
Truly the manliest of protagonists. What a shame they don't write them like that any more.

[Anonymous No.13020410]

Last thread before discussion, get hype!

[Anonymous No.13020414]

>>13020342
>Kane wouldn't give a shit about her sleeping with other men
Guys...should we tell him?

Besides, you're the dumb fuck that insisted that Kane didn't help the giant because he was trapped, your words not mine.
What actually happened was Kane stood and watched with a sword in his hand because he was scared shitless while the based giant fought barehanded (because he gave up his axe earlier to save Kane) against a giant sabercat, killed it and died from the battle wounds.
Truly the manliest of protagonists. What a shame they don't write them like that any more.

[Anonymous No.13020443]

How is the wagner shill still breathing?

[Anonymous No.13020474]

>>13020289
>>13020108
>>13020106
>>13020079
The amount of liberal studiesfags in this thread is astounding.

[Anonymous No.13020532]

Saw this shilled here a while back. I'm about to start, what am I in for?

[Anonymous No.13020541]

>>13019913
le guin is not hard sci fi

[Anonymous No.13020549]

>>13020532
~1800s america on a different planet. lots of warfare and tacticool historical shit. bit of romance and introducing chemistry to said primitives.

[Anonymous No.13020594]

>>13020474
>if you don't like pol you're a liberal
>if you don't like pol you something else political
Kys now.

[Anonymous No.13020597]

Bpoks thats capture this aesthetic 5his kind lf sci fi

[Anonymous No.13020615]

>>13019887
>>13019887
Ada Palmer, though it's not strictly hard science fiction but hard humanities fiction.

[Anonymous No.13020636]

>>13020615
I guess it is
Watts -> Hard biological scifi
Reynolds -> Hard physics scIfi
Palmer -> Hard Humanities scifi

[Anonymous No.13020650]

>>13020410
Didn't realise it we were finishig before the end of the month. Guess I should start it then.
>221 pages
>20 page introduction
I think I'll be fine.

[Anonymous No.13020668]

>MC fucks a 15 year old and then ends up eating her
What the fuck did I just get myself into?

[Anonymous No.13020833]

Ok, it was just those first couple NOT SFF stories jammed in at the beginning that weren't for me. The rest is decent.

[Anonymous No.13020838]

>>13020668
>eating your own cum from a used snatch.

[Anonymous No.13020866]

>>13019880
LeGuin was good until she started writing androphobic propaganda.

[Anonymous No.13020890]

>>13019945
Her early stuff was pretty good, but then she started on that man hating propaganda, like retconning the Earthsea universe to make all men evil and all women their perpetual victims...

[Anonymous No.13020915]

Andrew Rowe and Will Wight are the same person. Does he have any other pseudonyms?

[Anonymous No.13020920]

>>13019921

Just wait until you get to bloodstone, Kane doesn't conquer the world with an army of slave lizardmen because hes too busy beta orbiting a stronk woman who is a bigger badass on the battlefield than all the men

[Anonymous No.13020925]

>>13020915
>Andrew Rowe and Will Wight
Bullshit

[Anonymous No.13020942]

So, I've found with my writing - people really like how I do characters and descriptions of people, but one thing that I think I lack is the ability to paint a vista.

Mainly, because I don't know the words for things. I don't know the names of different formations of trees and rocks. I don't know the terms for different kinds of ceilings or windows or structures. I don't know my cisterns from sewers. My parts of a city.

Is there a good cheat sheet for stuff like that? I need to learn how to describe places.

[Anonymous No.13020959]

>>13019938
second bump for this.

How would you go around writing a main character that has the ability to completely change their appearance? How do you avoid it being endlessly compared to tleilaxu face dancers of Dune? How do you tackle their origins? Mythological fae creatures? Genetically altered beasts? Aliens?

[Anonymous No.13020974]

>>13020650
Well, if we blast through the thread I guess it'll be the thread after the next but they usually last a couple of days.

[Anonymous No.13020980]

>>13019880
>What are you reading?
The Doomed City by the Strugatsky brothers.
>List some books you liked that were written by female authors.
Image related.
>Are there any good modern female writers?
Ada Palmer.

[Anonymous No.13021013]

>>13020915
William D Arand and Randi Darren are the same person.

I think Andrew Rowe is what will uses for his faggot books. Like how William uses Randi for his perversions.

[Anonymous No.13021047]

>>13019880
>List some books you liked that were written by female authors.

[Anonymous No.13021065]

>>13020980
Is Mists of Avalon that good, then? I've been looking to read into the Arthurian mythos, and am looking for a great starting point. Also I haven't read any lady authors since I was like 14 lol

[Anonymous No.13021068]

>>13020866
Why is it okay to write heterosexual propaganda but not androphobic propaganda?

[Anonymous No.13021084]

>>13020594
Hating Le Guin and her shitty lukewarm feminist "fantasy" literature has nothing to do with /pol/ you sperg. I simply don't like her prose. Why is this too hard to comprehend for you?

[Anonymous No.13021089]

What's the Primer equivalent of /ssfg/? AKA a complex and grounded time-travel story.

[Anonymous No.13021090]

>>13020597
Darkover,maybe
Leigh Brackett,Tanith Lee,C.J Cherryh,Jo Walton,Andre Norton.Space fantasy had a lot of female authors,specially back in the dinodays.
Also play Star Ocean or Rogue Galaxy for vydia

[Anonymous No.13021099]

>>13020915
>>13021013
You dumbfucks realise these people actually go to cons and shit right? If you're going to spin autistic conspiracy theories at least make sure they can't be disproven with 10 seconds of research.

Speaking of pseudonyms, Miles/Christian Cameron are the same cuck faggot but that's well known around here I think.
Another one I know, Daniel Abraham(Long Price Quartet) is James SA Corey (Expanse)

[Anonymous No.13021102]

>>13021099
pic related

[Anonymous No.13021106]

>>13021068
Heterosexual propaganda at least has a plausible outcome in fantasy genre.

[Anonymous No.13021111]

Someone recommended 'A soldier's Duty' last thread to someone else asking for military science fiction I think it was, and I read it.
It was kind of shitty. Do noy recommend.

[Anonymous No.13021247]

I hope anon is around to see this:

>>13010870
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_of_Heaven

[Anonymous No.13021255]

>>13021068
>heterosexual propaganda
It doesn't exist

[Anonymous No.13021315]

>>13021099
ignore the guy. hes posting almost every other thread about how william d. arand is every author ever.
funnily enough. william is randi darren. thats about it though. most all indie authors on amazon know each other. william d. arand, daniel shinhofen, will wight and blaise corvin once were at the same dragoncon.

[Anonymous No.13021367]

is this the part of /lit/ with the least number of pretentious wannabe writers?(actually just failures in the making)

[Anonymous No.13021369]

>>13021255
>what is sanderson
Literal mormon preaching about the benefits of a cis marriage.

[Anonymous No.13021374]

So I am reaching a point where I have a pile of finished short stories, a finished manuscript, and a mostly finished second one. How do I actually go about trying to get these published? Is there a guide anywhere or is the best way literally just sending out fleets of emails?

[Anonymous No.13021375]

>>13021099
I was making a deliberately sarcastic remark to note the similarity between their works, and in hopes to get recommendations.
But I suppose you are too stupid to consider the possibility that anything may have a different meaning besides the literal one, you dumb fuck.

[Anonymous No.13021379]

>>13021367
It used to be.

[Anonymous No.13021389]

>>13021379
What changed?

[Anonymous No.13021402]

>>13021389
The strength of the peasantry failed and they were no longer chased out.

[Anonymous No.13021410]

>>13021367
The only wannabe writer we tolerate here is birdboi.

[Anonymous No.13021420]

>>13021402
i dont get it

[Anonymous No.13021462]

>>13021367
Yes, because our wannabe writers are autistic rather than pretentious.

[Anonymous No.13021463]

>>13021420
The walls were breached
their ruins lay
unseemly heap
despised of all
trod underfoot
barbarian horde
master now the keep

[Anonymous No.13021472]

>>13021410
Literally everytime birboi comes up, the discussion goes like this:

1) OH LOOK AT WHAT BIRBOI HAS BEEN DOING ON WORLDBUILDING DISCORD AGAIN HAHA
2) >1 No one cares
3) >1 *Some generic question about birboi*
4) >2 Fuck off
5) >PRAISE BIRDBOI
6) >1, >2, >3, >4, >5 Am birdboi. I have overstayed my welcome, please do not talk about me.

[Anonymous No.13021525]

>>13020532
Good Lord, that cover is hideous.

[Anonymous No.13021529]

>>13021472
I honestly can not tell why birdboi spammer continues to post about him when the guy himself asks people not to.

[Anonymous No.13021569]

Paul Atreides
>muh jihad
Elric of Melniboné
>muh Cymoril
Tyrion Lannister
>muh wits

What else?

[Anonymous No.13021572]

>>13021529
The first part of your statement answers the second part. This is 4chan, buddy.

[Anonymous No.13021587]

>>13020942
Whilst reading Malazan I picked up a lot of words for shit like that. It was just about the only use I got out of those books.

[Anonymous No.13021602]

>>13020942
yeah same problem here mate. i can't for the life of me describe a fucking mountain, river or vale, not to mention castles and houses.

[Anonymous No.13021607]

>>13021602
>The mountain is large much like a hill isn't.
There, done.

[Anonymous No.13021624]

>Bought R.A. Laffertys short stories
>Every story has an introduction

Hate this shit, if you took them out I could get a another story or two.

[Anonymous No.13021716]

>>13021607
but that's poor writing, anon.

[Anonymous No.13021722]

>>13021716
>thinking that is poor writing
That's high art fag.

[Anonymous No.13021763]

>>13021065
I personally think it's incredible. It have beautiful imagery and one of my favourite depictions of magic.

[Anonymous No.13021840]

>>13020942
I can’t write characters, and I can’t describe people, but above all, I can’t describe locations. My advice for you is to set your entire story in an endless void which your characters tumble through aimlessly, and indefinitely. Nobody cares whether your characters fuck on the side of a cool mountain or in the void, so just set it in the void. I myself have written thousands of stories in the void. It’s also a good narrative tool, because you can just have the characters float away from each other when you want a scene to end. Removing the restrictions of three-dimensional space makes writing a lot easier.

[Anonymous No.13021864]

>>13021084
I was the "hello pol" pic.
Anyone that talks about pull in a positive light is pol, it had nothing to do with the original statement. It was the
>>13020093
>pulling the /pol/ card
Post that made me post

[Anonymous No.13021878]

>>13021089
>AKA a complex and grounded time-travel story.
The stars my Destination.

[Anonymous No.13021887]

>>13021102
>trench coat
Which one of you was this? I bet you had a fedora too.

[Anonymous No.13021907]

>>13021878
What happened? You used to be able to spoiler each word in a sentence years ago, now the spoiler gets broken.

[Anonymous No.13021916]

>>13021907
Howaboutthis?

[Anonymous No.13021925]

>>13020915
are andrew and will actually friends? I read that advanced magic series from rowe and enjoyed it well enough to just roll my eyes during all the SJW fag shit. Funny reading all the amazon comments about people feeling the same way. At least if will shares the same views he doesn't incorporate them into his books.

[Anonymous No.13022010]

>>13020980
How do The Long Tomorrow, and Black God's Kiss stack up on the decent-amazing axis?

Also, of those eight books posted, which would you say is the best and which is the worst?

[Anonymous No.13022108]

>>13019880
am I the only one who saw that robe and thought >TN: Menacing

[Anonymous No.13022112]

>>13022108
also, what the fuck happened to my newline

[Anonymous No.13022131]

Whole thread was some retarded ass /pol/ talk
/sffg/ going to shit

[Anonymous No.13022186]

>>13021916
Based
>>13022131
That's what happens when the Dinogang and the Zoomergang fight.

[Anonymous No.13022303]

>>13021916
Hmm let's see if it works.

[Anonymous No.13022308]

>>13022303
>spaces
YOUSUCK

[Anonymous No.13022369]

>>13022308
Maybe that was the problem before.

[Anonymous No.13022377]

>>13022369
Let me see if this works.

[Anonymous No.13022392]

>>13022377
Don't know what happened with >>13021878 then.

[Anonymous No.13022411]

>>13022392
You just don't know how to do this.

[Anonymous No.13022413]

What amazon work are you guys expecting next month?

[Anonymous No.13022428]

WOLFED!

[Anonymous No.13022467]

>>13022411
[spouler]yes[/spoler] [poiler]I[/spolier] [spheuler]Do[/touler]

[Anonymous No.13022480]

>>13022467
Not how you do it.

[Anonymous No.13022582]

watched the dune movie in preparation for reading the books but I really didnt' like how the bad guy was literally a fucking evil gay(aids included) caricature. literally like stopped watching the movie midway through because it was just too much

is it the same in the books?

[Anonymous No.13022614]

NK Jemisin

[Anonymous No.13022645]

>>13022582
No. The Baron is a scheming smart evil guy. Though the first book is not even the best out of the 6. If you can easily read through the first book, most of what comes afterwards would feel good and fulfilling.
I finished the first book in a day though.

[Anonymous No.13022649]

>>13022582
Hope the new Dune movie won't suck ass dicks.

[Anonymous No.13022700]

>>13020375
>>13020385
>>13020414

[Anonymous No.13022735]

>>13022582
>literally like stopped watching the movie midway through because it was just too much
Are you a butt boy? Didn't like how they portrayed your faggot ilk?
That is how the world sees you and your fellow bedmates.

[Anonymous No.13022739]

>>13022614
WE WUZ LOVECRAFT

[Anonymous No.13022742]

>>13022700
>seething this much

[Anonymous No.13022755]

>>13022742
>>seething this much

[Anonymous No.13022760]

>>13022735
i'm a straight woman

it's just that i have compassion and principles

[Anonymous No.13022769]

>>13022760
can I do it? Can I be the one saying it?

L

[Anonymous No.13022779]

>>13020079
Go back to discord tranny you aren’t fooling anyone

[Anonymous No.13022788]

>>13020108

[Anonymous No.13022802]

Note to the one making the future OPs
NEVER fucking tackle a political subject like women writers and shit. This one has been one of the less constructive and interesting threads we've had in a long time. Just a bunch of idiots throwing buzzwords at eachother. Fuck you all, absolute glue-drinkers

[Anonymous No.13022806]

>>13021369
They’re nothing healthier than a heterosexual marriage. And there’s no such thing as cis

[Anonymous No.13022849]

How Gary Stu is Linley throughout Coiling Dragon? I'm okay with him being super strong because he trains so much but is he going to trounce everything he comes first try across or

[Anonymous No.13022866]

>>13022849
>sanderson has become so poor at releasing works that people actually want to read that cosmerefag had to resort to reading wuxia webnovels
Sad.

[Anonymous No.13022869]

>>13022849
damn, your picture reminded me how fucking good was Elantris even though it's sanderson cliche royale 101

[Anonymous No.13022876]

>>13022866
More like what I read when taking a break from the Dick.

>>13022869
SEQUELS NEVER EVER

[Anonymous No.13022981]

>>13021925
All the amazon indie authors in this genre who have “made it” know each other to one degree or another.

[Anonymous No.13022986]

>>13022760
Gays can be evil too anon.

[Anonymous No.13023010]

was just thinking about tolkien and why i don't enjoy his works, and i came to the realization that i don't like his stuff because it's not couched in reality. i know they're fantasy books so that's weird but he doesn't do much to flesh out the world. like why does he never mention how big aragorn's penis is? why don't we ever get any scenes of the hobbits going through mundane stuff like taking shits or filing their taxes?

[Anonymous No.13023087]

>>13023010
It's because tolkien's shit is dated as fugg :DDD

[Anonymous No.13023109]

>>13019880
Here's a chart an anon was working on long time back.

[Anonymous No.13023128]

Someone post catfag's female author chart.

[Anonymous No.13023145]

>>13023010
Low tier bait. Have a (You).

[Anonymous No.13023154]

Got any pulp recommendations

[Anonymous No.13023158]

>>13023109
No C.L Morre?

[Anonymous No.13023172]

>>13023128
Oh yeah, I forgot, haven't posted it in a while. Only the first part though.

[Anonymous No.13023174]

>>13023109
>no Leigh Brackett
>no CL Moore
>no Tanith Lee
What a shit fucking list.

[Anonymous No.13023185]

>>13023158
>>13023174
It's obviously not exhaustive. We'd love to see any new charts if you want to rectify these oversights :3

[Anonymous No.13023199]

>>13023154
Darkness Weaves by Karl Edward Wagner.

[Anonymous No.13023275]

>>13023185
I'd rather rectify your booty.

[Anonymous No.13023283]

>>13020541
Social science is science.

[Anonymous No.13023459]

>>13022645
I just finished the first one. Which one is better? I asked in the previous thread where should I stop with the sequels. God Emperor of Dune maybe?

[Anonymous No.13023542]

>>13019880
Has anyone read this? The premise is very interesting, thinking of giving it a go.

[Anonymous No.13023623]

>>13023542
Yeah, but it's been a while. I don't remember disliking it. I vaguely recall there being less scifi than the cover indicates.

[Anonymous No.13023686]

>read good recs about Desolate Era
>just read FOURTEEN HUNDRED AND FIFTY CHAPTERS FUCK YOU
>do it bro
fuck you

[Anonymous No.13023699]

>>13019880
>List some books you liked that were written by female authors.
>tfw C.S. Friedman wrote two great trilogies and then fell off the face of a cliff and was never heard from again

[Anonymous No.13023715]

>>13023686
I'm sorry anon, I'm the one who keeps shilling Desolate Era here, although its been a while.

Don't remember how many chapters it has but I do recommend finishing it if you haven't as the last 25% or so(Nuwa arc) is fucking epic.

[Anonymous No.13023730]

>>13023715
Oh I haven't even started it. I just got to v4 of Coiling Dragon and I was on the hunt for whatever else he wrote with familiar names. That's too long, maybe in the far future but no time soon.
I forget: is CD wuxia or xianxia? I'm still a bit unfamiliar with the terms.

[Anonymous No.13023872]

>>13023730
Dunno, didn't last very long in CD, wasn't for me. Does it have cultivation/daoism/taosim shit? Then it's xianxia if not it's probably wuxia or xuanhuan.
Check novelupdates, it's like goodreads for chinkshit, you'll get an accurate answer. They even define genres iirc, making them easier to understand.

[Anonymous No.13023877]

>>13023010
Get off /lit/ and get back to writing, George.

[Anonymous No.13023889]

>>13022649
History will judge Villeneuve to be this generation’s Kubrick. Even if the writing is weak, the cinematography will be fucking incredible.

[Anonymous No.13024063]

>>13023172
Based chart and based covers.
Why can't book covers be like this anymore?
every bookcover now has a hooded dude dual-wielding

[Anonymous No.13024079]

>>13024063
Stop reading fantasy then, you fucking faggot

[Anonymous No.13024084]

Hey nerds, I need your spookiest sci-fi horror and/or cosmic horror
GIVE ME YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS

[Anonymous No.13024115]

>>13024084
The Broadsword by Laird Barron.

[Anonymous No.13024132]

>>13024084
Nightingale by Alastair Reynolds

[Anonymous No.13024148]

>>13024063
>dude
Don't be a bigot, this is the female authors edition. Girls can wear hoods and dual wield too.

[Anonymous No.13024170]

>>13024148
It's okay if mommy maas does it

[Anonymous No.13024454]

>>13020067
Abbo denisovans are worse than niggers

[Anonymous No.13024462]

>>13020317
Based cuckhunter

[Anonymous No.13024468]

>>13021529
>>13021572
>>13021472

Cringe samefagging antibirdboyists
Day of the beak is coming.

[Anonymous No.13024470]

>>13023109
Holy shit, I remember that guy. Anyone have his Arthurian chart?

[Anonymous No.13024539]

>>13023730
>>13023872
Isn't xianxia anything with batshit crazy powerlevels and wuxia more grounded (relatively)?

[Anonymous No.13024580]

>>13024462
>Based cuckhunter

[Anonymous No.13024702]

Question for the fantasy people: Is Ivanhoe worth trying to read? Kino fantasy?

[Anonymous No.13024766]

Recommend me some comfy fantasy please.
I know comfy is sort of a buzzword, basically I want to read something lighthearted in which characters have (mostly) a good time. Think that chapter of Fellowship of the Ring in which they describe their stay in Rivendel.

[Anonymous No.13024788]

>>13024766
The Ecology of the Unicorn by Schuyler Hernstrom.

[Anonymous No.13024842]

The shills have won me over, what am I in for? I haven't read all that much fantasy.

[Anonymous No.13024923]

>>13024842
You need to trade that in for the Del Rey collections instead.

[Anonymous No.13025310]

>>13022649
Villeneuve has a good track record. It will at the very least be watchable.

[Anonymous No.13025361]

Drugs are the real world equivalent to the magical herbs n shit that will improve cultivation in xianxia but cripple you if you can't handle it. Prove me wrong.

[Anonymous No.13025379]

>>13024766
The Colour of Magic, if you haven't already read some discworld. The Rincewind stuff is all pretty comfy.

[Anonymous No.13025382]

>>13025361
How many marijuana's did you smoke to cripple your brain?

[Anonymous No.13025414]

>>13025382
>smoking marijuana instead of injecting it directly into your eyeballs
ISHYGDDT

[Anonymous No.13025511]

>>13025414
>eyeballs
Wrong balls m19-11.

[Anonymous No.13025794]

I just bought The Dispossessed. I'm not correct in thinking some elements remind me a little of Arkady's Hard to be a God, correct? Also where the hell do I start with Terry Prachett? I bought two of his books today but I remember reading The Colour of Magic and not really liking it all that much but I'm willing to give him another chance. Pratchett books I have on hand:

The Colour of Magic/The Light Fantastic
Making Money
Guards, Guards!
The Fifth Elephant

[Anonymous No.13025808]

>>13020594
>disagree with /pol/
>like /pol/ anyway because they're unironically hillarious

What should I do?

[Anonymous No.13025821]

>>13024470
It appears I do, if this is the one you mean.

[Anonymous No.13025835]

>>13025821

I think starting with Sir Gaiwan and the Green Knight would be the best place. Something about it feels accessible and entry level but it is a very good read and I've loved The Green Knight's entrance into the feast.

[Anonymous No.13025880]

>>13025794
I'd say Small Gods is one of the best Discworld books to start with. It doesn't tie into any of the character series so you don't need prior knowledge or feel you have to read more to see what else happens to the characters, and it's well into where the books are good rather than okay. Colour of Magic and Light Fantastic are probably the worst books as they're just parody fantasy without much story.
But of those books, Guards, Guards! is the first Watch book and pretty decent, so I'd say that. Making Money and Fifth Elephant should both be perfectly coherent without reading earlier stuff, but you'll be lacking the prior character and setting development.
Also see >>13020009

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13025940]

>>13020125
>woman innovates a lackluster genre
>becomes popular
>doesn’t make him a sandwich
>”She’s what’s wrong with SF&F”

I hope most of you are mature enough to see this for immaturity it is

>>13021084
Using the “/pol/ card” is shorthand for the type of person. The only place that bullshit is welcome.
Post about what you like not about what you’ve heard threatens your imagined and real status

>>13021106
And we all read sf&f for its predictable plausibility

[Anonymous No.13025963]

>>13023283

non-continental social science is a joke

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13025980]

>>13025963
Social-science-fiction is a genre

[Anonymous No.13026056]

>>13025940

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13026069]

>>13026056
That’s nice, thanks. Not Le Guin, thread or board related though.

[Anonymous No.13026098]

>>13026069
If you're the real butterfly (which I doubt because she accidental her trip years ago and then left lit when everyone was impersonating her), then you are female. And if you are female on lit, you are some one of the stages of feminism.
So it fits perfectly with this thread's topic. Seeing as most female authors are feminist, or appeal to feminists through their character's decisions and traits, to get their book sales up.

[Anonymous No.13026119]

>>13025382
Not marijuana. Cocaine and psychedelics.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13026121]

>>13026098
You want to talk about feminism, start a thread on it. Le Guin isn’t feminism and certainly not divisive “third wave” liberal psyops feminism.

I never leave because people impersonate me. I “leave” on my own terms for my own reasons.

Read any Le Guin of women sff writers?

[Anonymous No.13026151]

>>13023172
>pinata

[Anonymous No.13026165]

>>13024842
>what am I in for?
The INCOMPLETE & ABRIDGED chronicles of Conan

[Anonymous No.13026170]

>>13025821
No Chronicles of Amber?

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13026181]

>>13023172
>About women, for women, by a woman
The maker of the chart was a woman? I thought it meant all the authors would be women.
I’ve read some of those. Nostalgia

[Anonymous No.13026237]

>>13022108
No, I was thinking the same thing.

[Anonymous No.13026250]

>>13021369
>cis
You don't need to invent new words for "normal and healthy".

[Anonymous No.13026260]

>>13022760
>he's gay so he can't be evil
This is your brain on woman.

[Anonymous No.13026348]

>>13022582
???
Yea, he was evil and happened to also be gay - what's the problem?

[Anonymous No.13026367]

is le guin the only good token female scifi writer?

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13026391]

>>13026367
I read a short by James Tiptree jr. which was good

[Anonymous No.13026449]

>>13026181
It's a poor design decision. That isn't the subtitle of the entire chart. It's just the first grouping.

[Anonymous No.13026451]

>>13025821
Why does all the cover art for Warlord Chronicles make them look like they're knights when they're actually half naked welsh savages who consider themselves lucky to have a chain shirt?

[Anonymous No.13026463]

>>13026451
Because Arthur and his cavalry are basically knights

[Anonymous No.13026464]

>>13026367
Used to read Mccaffrey, but... she's not exactly good. Not terrible, I suppose, but I was in high school when it started seeming over-simplistic. Interesting world at least. Haven't read many others except Leguin and Shelley, both obviously good (haven't read later leguin, though), but this thread has me planning on getting mists of avalon.

[Anonymous No.13026483]

Any novel similar to New Paris?

Summed up; Surrealism meets the Occult in 40s Paris.

Cheers.

[Anonymous No.13026485]

>>13026451
They're Cornish actually.

[Anonymous No.13026504]

>>13026367
*dabs in Latin*

[Anonymous No.13026525]

>>13026485
Explain

[Anonymous No.13026529]

>>13026525
They're from Cornwall.

[Anonymous No.13026540]

>>13026529
Kek. What about the fact that the majority of the story takes place in Wales and the more important kingdoms are places like Powys and Gwent?

[Anonymous No.13026546]

>>13026540
Leaving Cornwall doesn't result in having your Cornish card revoked anon.

[Anonymous No.13026562]

>>13026121
I have no problem with LeGuin or most female authors on the whole, I'm attacking you personally as a tripfag, not LeGuin

[Anonymous No.13026575]

>>13026546
But why specifically Cornish? I assumed that the characters were generally "Britons" and that the story takes place prior to the strict delineation of Welsh/Cornish/Breton/Cumbric as separate cultures/languages.

[Anonymous No.13026579]

Has anyone ever fell in love with or had a crush on a female character?

[Anonymous No.13026591]

>>13026579
Anon, take a moment and check what site you’re posting about it. Think long and hard about it, and don’t post again until you can come up with better recommendation bait than this.

[Anonymous No.13026592]

>>13026579
Pygmalion did

[Anonymous No.13026610]

>>13026575
Dumnonia is the main kingdom isn't it?

[Anonymous No.13026644]

>>13026579
I inexplicably want to fuck Weather from the Alastair Reynolds short story. I think it's the high-and-mighty attitude of the conjoiners, always going on about how cool it is to be one of them, "nobody has EVER changed their mind about joining us!", and shit. You just KNOW they don't fuck, ever, because they're weirdos like that. They probably get off to Einstein’s physics or something. To a conjoiner, fucking a non-enlightened plebeian would be an inherently degrading act, therefore, I want to fuck one of them. It's a bit like fucking an elf. Conjoiners are Sci-Fi elves, and must be fucked.

[Anonymous No.13026650]

>>13026610
Right, but as I remember, the placement of the kingdom in the books does not coincide with real-life Dumnonia (or the historical distribution of the Dubmnonii, for that matter). If I remember correctly, it's placed in south-western England, while Cornwall proper was controlled by some other minor lord.

[Anonymous No.13026681]

>>13026650
huh
Fuck you they're still Cornish

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.13026689]

>>13026650
Ah. Like T*rks aren’t in Turkmenistan

[Anonymous No.13026692]

>>13023459
I personally liked Heretics the most. It had the best premise to be honest and before that we haven't explored the Bene Geserit much at all (not to say the Bene Geserit always were the antagonist lite of the books beforehand). I always wanted to know and see what makes them tick and the inner workings of their society. Also Teg's awakening has been the most dramatic in any of the books. It had more impact, a better "ooph" so to speak even than Leto II. Oh, and it introduced the Honored Matress. Deadly sadist crazy adrenaline-junkie Bene Geserit on roids, basically.
All in all
Heretics>God Emperor>Dune>Messiah>Chapterhouse>Children
Not to say Children of Dune is bad, but parts of it are a slog and I had the most "trouble" finishing it (trouble as in I not feeling like continuing slogging through anymore)

[Anonymous No.13026700]

/sffg/, im having problems balancing something. part of the conflict of my setting is that the MCs don't have a reliable source of food. there's no crops, no shops, and most wild animals and plants are inedible. I decided to include "mana" as a filling but unsatisfying food substitute, but the problem is mana is also the setting's main source of magic and is in extremely high demand to the point of violence by the sentient wildlife. I could add more edible nonsentient wildlife, but then there isn't really a food shortage

the way I see it I have two options: either I make the main characters gatherers or craftsmen who trade for a meager amount of mana, which is boring, or make the edible wildlife deadly, which makes it unlikely that the human cast, most of whom are under 15 could have survived.

what do you recommend?

[Anonymous No.13026708]

A GOT reboot based completely on the GRRM books would be something out of this world. Prove me wrong.

[Anonymous No.13026714]

>>13026681
I don't have a horse in the game, anon. They could be Cornish for all I care - I just thought I might have missed some obvious in-world evidence.

[Anonymous No.13026728]

>>13019880
Are all low fantasy books edgy cunt shitstorm made by paranoid fucks or are there great exceptions?
If so, could you give an example?

[Anonymous No.13026729]

>>13026708
You're wrong because GoT sucks, books or no

[Anonymous No.13026752]

>>13026708
*teleports behind your terrible idea*

[Anonymous No.13026761]

>>13026367
James Tiptree jr and Joanna Russ are good
Also Gertrude Barrows Bennett/Francis Stevens is pretty underrated

[Anonymous No.13026768]

did anyone else imagine soulcatcher as female(male)

[Anonymous No.13026976]

>start reading xianxia
>want to talk about xianxia
>nobody talks about chinese shit anymore
pull me through the gateway and abandon me, /lit/ must be full of women

[Anonymous No.13026981]

>>13026700
Hi with Mana. Mana is the source of magic, ok it's expensive, bit if it's also a source of food I'm case of need (which it seems the characters really need) then it becomes even more expensive and important, and in a pinch they have to chose, ok do I use Mana to defend myself with magic, and face hunger later, or do I try to talk my way out of this situation and preserve Mana?
It's also realistic. If Mana is so expensive, then it makes sense characters don't just use it every time and will only consume it when in danger or when facing starvation.

[Anonymous No.13026998]

>>13026700
You could make parts the inedible wildlife tradeable. Eg, Tigers/wolves/chipmunks/whatever you think your cast can hunt aren't edible but their balls are an aphrodisiac which gives them trade value.

[Anonymous No.13027004]

>>13026483
most of China Meiville's stuff is like that in one form or another. he's currently THE surrealist in the fantasy community

[Anonymous No.13027023]

>>13026728
nein?

[Anonymous No.13027025]

>>13026768
I imagined Soulcatcher as a skinnyfat manlet to be honest, because the author didn't make it clear enough that it's a woman. To be honest, women disguised as men never fucking work in real life, as the particularities are too aparent to anyone.
Also I indistinctly remember her being described as a guy but I might be wrong and I can't be arsed enough to go look it up. Either way it makes no fucking sense that a hot woman can so easily disguise herself as a guy, or fool everyone and make them think that she's a guy.

[Anonymous No.13027047]

>>13026504
That's fantasy

[Anonymous No.13027066]

>>13026981
that was the thought. my idea is that the human cast barely have enough mana to do magic. The MC is pretty important in that respect because both his mind and magic are wired for finding creative solutions to culinary problems, meaning that while he's useless in combat, he's able to slowly chip away at the food problem with his own wits.

of course, if there's no food problem, there's no need for a solution

[Anonymous No.13027069]

>>13027025
It's just poorly written. Croaker directly describes her feminine characteristics - something about her tits and hips I think - but then goes on with his "Haha I just think of him as a man because it totally doesn't matter and it'd be weird to think of one of the Taken as a guy". Then he meets another of the Taken and calls her "she". I think it was Stormcaller, but who the fuck cares? Then he's told directly that the sex of the Taken is critically important because the females are traitors, and fails to even think about whether that might include Soulcatcher.

[Anonymous No.13027119]

>>13027069
>Croaker when he finds Soulcatcher is a woman
>Imagine the smell haha amirite wouldn't that be weird haha?

[Anonymous No.13027192]

>>13020890
Supposedly there was a specific feminist essay she read that caused her writing to go to shit.

[Anonymous No.13027205]

>>13026367
I don't like C.J. Cherryh, but she's objectively pretty good.

[Anonymous No.13027254]

>>13026976
We are women but that doesn't mean we don't read xianxia.

[Anonymous No.13027441]

>>13026700
It's your setting. You can make it however you want. Just make edible wildlife exactly as rare as needed so that your characters don't starve to death while still posing a problem.

Why is it rare? Probably because the inedible wildlife finds it particularly tasty. So your characters have to compete with said wildlife for food.

[Anonymous No.13027455]

>>13027025
>>13027066
I think she was described as a feminine body shape but no (or very small) breasts

[Anonymous No.13027703]

Why was this so bad bros?

The 1st two books were so refreshing.

He went from anime straight to a shitty RPG

[Anonymous No.13027763]

Any fantasy or sci fi similar to this?

[Anonymous No.13027852]

>>13027763
The Bible. Except it's not fantasy. And you're going to Hell.

[Anonymous No.13027853]

>>13027763
>>>/cgl/

[Anonymous No.13027880]

>>13027703
I don't know, I couldn't stomach more than a few pages. I basically dropped as soon as Kalladin revealed himself to his family and whatnot. It all seemed so uninteresting. I did not give a fuck at all man, you feel me?
God damn I want more Elantris and Mistborn in the Lord Ruler's time. Never liked Stormlight Archive, to be honest.

[Anonymous No.13027919]

>>13027880
Mistborn should have ended with the 1st book.

[Anonymous No.13027929]

>>13027880
>>13027919
All his books are subpar

[Anonymous No.13027940]

>>13019880
What should I read, mistborn or prince of nothing trilogy?

[Anonymous No.13027947]

>>13027929
It's a shame, his concepts are really good.

[Anonymous No.13027951]

>>13027940
Do you want anime girl or suffering and ntr?

They couldn’t be more different series.

[Anonymous No.13027956]

>>13027940
>prince of nothing

Don't do this to yourself.

The author is literally the "let's try every single thing to be different from everyone else" guy.

While he does succeeded in being different, reading him is painful.

[Anonymous No.13027962]

>>13027951
I'm trying to read all the most well known authors in modern fantasy. Sanderson and Baker are next on my list.

[Anonymous No.13028012]

>>13027956
>The author is literally the "let's try every single thing to be different from everyone else" guy.

But that’s Joe Abercrombie

[Anonymous No.13028016]

>>13028012
But I like that about Abercrombies books because he does it well.

[Anonymous No.13028041]

>>13028012
At least he went to English Class.

[Anonymous No.13028048]

>>13028016
>because he does it well
>laughing_girls.png

[Anonymous No.13028054]

>>13028048
Out of the entire grim derp sub genre, Abercrombie is the only one that's enjoyable to read.

[Anonymous No.13028061]

>>13026708
the more she drank the more she shat on his fat pink mast

[Anonymous No.13028084]

>>13027962
You poor soul

[Anonymous No.13028121]

How many books long is Cradle supposed to be, and at what book does shit start getting wacky?(i.e., past the exposition/'tutorial', growing up-part of the series)

[Anonymous No.13028126]

Give me one good series please.

I've read every single shit the genre has to offer and nothing's good.

Everything you spam here is trash.

[Anonymous No.13028133]

>>13028121
Unknown. And after the second book he actually starts learning, if that’s what you mean.

[Anonymous No.13028139]

>>13028121
I feel like I've heard the number 14.
Also you seem hilariously new to xianxia if you think that'll ever end. Learning the ropes and growing is the entirety of it, if you don't like that part you fucked up

[Anonymous No.13028145]

>>13028126
You read all off masters of rome??

[Anonymous No.13028156]

>read The Accursed Kings
>Realise GRRM ripped all of his (good) characters straight out of it

[Anonymous No.13028157]

>>13028139
I meant the adolescent stage by 'growing up'.

[Anonymous No.13028166]

>>13028126
Chronicles of Amber

[Anonymous No.13028175]

>>13028157
There's never a long time skip. He's an adolescent in the latest book

[Anonymous No.13028184]

>>13028157
He’s only gone from 16-18 agewise so far I think.

[Anonymous No.13028207]

>>13028175
>>13028184
Alright. With the sporadic release schedule as well, I don't even see a reason to prioritize this series any time soon.

[Anonymous No.13028291]

I read House of Suns and Revelation Space recently. That's some damn good stuff. It was especially good to read after loving A Fire Upon the Deep and then being very disappointed by the following books in that series. God damn, Children of the Sky was so fucking bad.

[Anonymous No.13028366]

>>13024788
>>13025379
These sound right up my alley, thank you.

[Anonymous No.13028393]

>>13028207
>sporadic release
Pretty sure will averages 6 months between cradle books so it's hardly sporadic. Wacky isn't the word I would use but things sort of ramp up around book 3 when lindon stops being as useless

[Anonymous No.13028395]

>>13026700
Wow flavours anon, you've gone through so many iterations. What about the edible stone thing you were working on. What about altering food on a molecular level to adjust it's taste?

[Anonymous No.13028400]

>>13028126
Dumb frogposter

[Anonymous No.13028424]

>>13028054
You mean gloktha and west. Everyone else was a chore.
>tfw you will never have a thicc brown beauty with no remaining family and pregnant with someone else's get look after you lovingly

[Anonymous No.13028450]

>>13028424
Go down to Texas, you might have to compromise on the beautiful part

[Anonymous No.13028476]

>>13027956
>The author is literally the "let's try every single thing to be different from everyone else" guy.
What? He's the complete opposite in that he's doing everything that already has been done before; just a whole lot edgier and more boring.

[Anonymous No.13028590]

>>13028450
Not in Klapistan, but will she love me and be faithful?

[Anonymous No.13028696]

does this remain a slog all the way through
I want to know if it's worth sticking with or if I should drop it and read something else

[Anonymous No.13028761]

>>13027956
He's actually
>let's do everything that was done before, but let's be really honest about it
And so...
>murdering barbarians are really murdering barbarians, not some noble savage shit
>tortured old mages are really tortured, not jolly old gandalfesque fellers
>women are whores, but real whores, not le harsh past bullshit
>bad guys literally wear dead bodies as clothes and are proud about it
>lying manipulative bastard is really a lying manipulative bastard
>war is shit, but real shit not pretend. Like, Bakker specifically described the smell of everyone's anus multiple times

[Anonymous No.13028876]

>>13028761
>Like, Bakker specifically described the smell of everyone's anus multiple times
So deep.

[Anonymous No.13029023]

What happened to the MEGAS???

[Anonymous No.13029142]

>>13028696
Every Tad Williams book is overly long, massively so. He's a good writer and there's lots to like in his books but holy fuck does he need a better editor.

[Anonymous No.13029155]

Reading epic fantasy and complaining that it's a slog is like eating a shit sandwich and complaining it tastes terrible. I mean what did you expect?

[Anonymous No.13029188]

>>13027962
fucking rip

[Anonymous No.13029286]

Tiptree and Russ are both very good, though probably more enjoyable to read as a woman. Russ especially has a real lezsep vibe, which I am all for but isn't for everyone.

[Anonymous No.13029344]

>>13029155
you gotta strap in and enjoy the comfy journey

[Anonymous No.13029434]

>>13028696
It is long, but I found it enjoyable. While it does meander, there are many memorable events that I look back on and am grateful for sticking with it

[Anonymous No.13029456]

>>13029344
That's what I tell my rape victims.

[Anonymous No.13029504]

This way to reach the new Heinlein boys club

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[Anonymous No.13029708]

>>13020959
culture book 1 has changer---honestly I can't see anyone caring but I'm not that keyed into the SFF world

[Anonymous No.13030572]

>>13020410
60 p/w, y'all retarded or something?