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I swear the trial in Brothers Karamzov is making me fall asleep. I don't give a shit about the prosecutor's statement.

>> No.13003251
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>>13002130
I skimmed all that. However the ending is very moving, so stick it through if you like a good tearjerker.

Are you fairly new to literature or is this your first time delving into the Russians?

>> No.13003271

>>13003251
I delve into plenty of Russians. Namely, their vaginas.

>> No.13003276

Im really struggling to understand the point of the trial sequence. Theres no way its 100 pages of filler.

The two lawyers seem to represent something in relation to the Brothers.

There may be some relationship to Jesus before Pilate.

>> No.13003284

>>13003276
Russian publishing houses paid more for longer books

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>the prosecution is making me sleep
>I skimmed through all of that
Fucking brainlets, abandon brainletism and move towards patience you fucking termites

>> No.13003363

>>13003276
It could easily be that the book was published in serial format and Dostoevsky was just trying to meet a deadline. It's a common problem in 18th and 19th century novels.

>> No.13003369

>>13003271
what did he mean by this

>> No.13003392

>>13002130
The prosecutor's statement was beautiful

>> No.13004648

>>13003251
Yes, I've only read Crime and Punishment before this, but I was fully engaged from start to finish in that one. But I'm definitely not dropping it or anything. I know the end of Crime and Punishment had bawling, and I don't expecting this one to be disappointing either.

>>13003276
That's possible, but I personally doubt it. It really does seem like filler to me.

>>13003353
Dude, it's literally repeating everything we already know about the case

>>13003392
Different strokes, I guess?

>> No.13004657

>>13004648
Had me* bawling
I don't expect*

Excuse the illiteracy.

>> No.13004673

>>13004648
C&P was his most "casual" book so not surprising you feel this way if it was your first Dosto.
Mine was The Possessed so everything after was a breeze

>> No.13004691

The strength of the trial is to show how weak our knowledge of the truth and human justice is. Both lawyers have a diferent interpretation of what hapened and the reader becomes doubtfull, although he that dimitri is innocent. If a lawyer can be so conivincing and yet wrong, it means human justice is flawed.

>> No.13004740

>>13003284
Hey its you shilling again for no reason. How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man!?

>> No.13004766

>>13002130
>tfw first Dosto
i find this whole book hard to grasp. Maybe i'm just /lit/-let

>> No.13004888

>>13003276
>>13003284
>>13003363
Everything has a simple, suitable, incorrect explanation.

It is a complete shame that there are posters on /lit/ who don't understand that statements like these can be (and have to be) easily proven, and that there are shelves full of books organizing even the smallest details of authors' biographies, and shelves full of books that analyze the smallest details of their works. There also are people on this planet who can casually describe what had been happening in some famous salon decades or centuries ago as if they can get into its members' heads.

>> No.13004889

>>13003369
Have sex

>> No.13004906

Also, you should at least have noticed the attack on contemporary psychology (and deduce its talking points from that).

>> No.13004909

>>13002130
READ BAKHTIN
>>13003251
READ BAKHTIN
>>13003276
READ BAKHTIN
>>13003284
READ BAKHTIN
>>13003363
READ BAKHTIN
>>13004648
READ BAKHTIN
>>13004673
READ BAKHTIN
>>13004691
READ BAKHTIN
>>13004766
READ BAKHTIN
>>13004888
READ BAKHTIN
>>13004889
READ BAKHTIN

YOU MUST ALL READ BAKHTIN

>> No.13004913

>>13004889
Sex is a social construct.

>> No.13004940

>>13003363
He didn't have deadlines around the times he wrote Brothers K.