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[Anonymous No.12964371]

it's over boys, he lost, communism is dead, fuck my life

[Anonymous No.12964407]

>>12964371
>He believes this when the only thing he needs to do to win is not cry and keep making coherent points.

[Anonymous No.12964468]

>>12964371
F

[Anonymous No.12964641]

>>12964371

[Anonymous No.12964678]

>>12964371
How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man?

[Anonymous No.12964693]

>>12964371
hoped for zizek to obliterate lobsterman but he just shat himself while reading from a sheet.

[Anonymous No.12964696]

>getting btfo by a fucking self help con artist

Time to pack it up commies

[Anonymous No.12964719]

>>12964371
His wife's tits are great, so in the end who is the real winner?

[Anonymous No.12964743]

>>12964693
He even took the lobster pill
>I don't think the main lobster has authority
He'll have to explain then what makes it "the main lobster"

[Anonymous No.12964751]

>>12964371
I'll admit I used to be a Marxist, but the reality of the matter is Marxism died after the failed revolutions in Europe after ww1. Only the first world would have been able to change the direction of history. Obviously there have been other impactful communist movements throughout history, but most of them were ultimately just nationalist movements that aligned with the Soviet Bloc against the first world. Fascism is where it's at now, but only if you can swallow the black pill.

[Anonymous No.12964755]

peterson is getting BTFO
literally said zizek was "too complex" to respond to

[Anonymous No.12964762]

[Anonymous No.12964767]

Is this a debate or a nice morning coffee between two friends who agree on 99% of their ideas?

[Anonymous No.12964782]

>>12964755
not really, he was repeating the same old points from his youtube meme videos.

[Anonymous No.12964796]

i like how this debate had a topic and everything but instead Peterson is just rambling about the communist manifesto and attacking zizek on general communist points that he never made

in peterson's fairness, its difficult to take any point from anything zizek says

[Anonymous No.12964818]

>>12964762
key-key-key-key-key-key-key

[Anonymous No.12964820]

>>12964782
He's so old he can't come up with new stuff and just rambles like a retard.

[Anonymous No.12964823]

>>12964782
yeah and peterson obviously didnt do the barest modicum of research, hes rambling right now

literally didnt use all of his time

[Anonymous No.12964835]

>>12964767
It's a self help guru with sober lvl 1 talking points against a coked out, rambling self-hating communist reading out the same notes and examples he has given 20 times before.

They are talking at different wavelengths, this is inherently boring.

[Anonymous No.12964848]

>>12964796
Peterson's mistake was not doing his homework and realising that Zizek is a conservative social democrat and not an actual communist

[Anonymous No.12964851]

>>12964782
Zizek, like most philosophers, think one thought and it is typically the thought of their age. Why would you expect him to come up with new material at all?

[Anonymous No.12964867]

>>12964371
>Dr. Peterson my argument isn't against you, its against happiness itself
hahaha what the fuck
who thought this "debate" would actually work

[Anonymous No.12964869]

Am I the only one that absolutely does not give a shit that this debate happened?

[Anonymous No.12964875]

>>12964371
Goddamn it this guy is a meme.

[Anonymous No.12964911]

https://www.strawpoll.me/17849644

[Anonymous No.12965045]

>>12964869
no. I don't too

[Anonymous No.12965107]

>>12964371
t. OP who replied 90% of the posts in thread to seem like Peterson had a coherent discourse in the debate (yes, less incoherent than Zizek who is so dynamic and ambiguous, that he may lead to confusion)

[Anonymous No.12965138]

Why is Peterson shaking?

[Anonymous No.12965800]

>>12964848
Yeah exactly no communist is going to waste their time debating Kermit the frog. Zizek is just a charltan who tries appeal to college kids because they are the ones who buy his books.

[Anonymous No.12965815]

>>12964371
Apologize.

[Anonymous No.12965824]

>>12965800
Who are the serious communists youre thinking of that are above this?

[Anonymous No.12965995]

>>12964869
I did until I started watching it.

[Anonymous No.12966003]

>>12964371
I was not looking to spend my night fucking watching this bullshit, but here we go.

[Anonymous No.12966011]

>>12964762
holy shit im ded

[Anonymous No.12966030]

>>12964743
the first lobster

[Anonymous No.12966036]

>>12964820
we know that

[Anonymous No.12966041]

hmm what are we talking about why not just some grammathica applied science

[Anonymous No.12966060]

>>12964371
Watch the debate again, basedboy.

[Anonymous No.12966197]

>>12964743
he was saying that lobster hierarchy was based on actual, immediate physical merit or superiority. True authority in the way we understand it should be able to survive without its physical justification.
That's why he used the example of "if I said 'father, i trust you because you are wise or w/e' that would be an affront to paternal authority"

[Anonymous No.12966251]

>>12964848
back to discord

[Anonymous No.12966447]

Fuck, communism is dead? But I've already committed to being a tranny

[Anonymous No.12966530]

>>12966447
>communism has anything to with trannies
2010s were a mistake

[Anonymous No.12966571]

>>12964762
Top kek

[Anonymous No.12966604]

>>12966197
>>12964743
Ziziek talked about how leaders function as people who bring about the movement/potential on individuals.
This means they don't have to be qualified in the areas where they lead as long as they can bring out the best of their followere. It was perfectly explained in the jesus example, there were and are people way more capable then jesus to explain christianity , but jesus had the charisma to keep his followers.
The hierarchy legitimises itself not because the leader is qualified, but because he is a good leader and what makes him a good leader is his followers believing in him. This goes in opostition to lobster ideology or natural selection as where the leader is selected by excelence in the important aspects of being a lobster. This, however does not the guarantee the best outcome for the other lobsters. A good leader is born when the followers belive him a good leader and maximise their eficiency, in a way the followers are the real leaders.