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Which authors address this? I am specifically thinking of the Christian/Catholic tradition. I'm interested in how moderns have been convinced that sin is good, and goodness or wholesome suffering is to be avoided.

>> No.12961694

(I've already read Aristotle's Ethics)

>> No.12961747

>>12961667
St. Aquinas. Can't go wrong with St. Aquinas.

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I'd recommend Boethius' "The Consolation of Philosophy" Basically, the whole book is Boethius, while in prison and sentenced to death, trying to make sense out of evil why it is happening and the idea of goodness, why we should be good, and so on. It is religious and Christian but the whole religious thing is more subtle and almost nonexistent in Boethius than it is in say St. Augustine. If you want classical religious texts on this then read St. Augustine's "Confessions" or "The City of God"

>> No.12961976

>>12961667
Budziszewski.

>> No.12962137

>>12961976
exactly what I was looking for, thanks based anon.

>>12961747
>>12961833
thank you lads. please send more recommendations.

>> No.12967222

>>12961667
Yes I wrote about it uwu
I'd read Parmenides or Plato if u want the nuts and bolts, Augustine is well too but in a less secular way but his emphasis on silent reading vs out loud reading is divine in a purely rational way

>> No.12968544

>>12961667
anime strikes again
another piece of art disfigured another greek depiction cute-fied
will they even stop?

>> No.12968884

>>12961667
No, Eutyphro dilemma shows divine command theory to be false and Bart Streumer BTFO's both moral naturalism and non-naturalism in his book 'Unbelievable Errors' and those are the only moral realist options. Error theory is the only metaethics in town.

>> No.12968914

>>12961667
Perfect morality exists only as a duality. First one must understand the rules before they can be broken. Creative destruction is still creation. Communion with the creator is birth of creation. There is a time to kill and time to save.

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>>12961667
Ayn Rand

>> No.12970851

>>12967222
>read Parmenides
Parmenides, Sophist, Statesman, Laws in that order
Then Republic (Gerasimos Santas explained version if you're pleb)
Then you move past Plato & only then

>> No.12970859

>>12970851
instead of reading ethics he should be readin some metaethics like moore and all the philosophers that came after him

>> No.12971437

>>12970851
Having just read Sophist/Statesman/Parmenides can you explain how they’re related to absolute morality? I didn’t pick up on any ethical subtext, if anything Parmenides was Plato pointing out the flaws in his theories. Maybe I’m a brainlet but I read them all as simply dialectic exercises. Would probably recommend dialogues like Phaedo or Symposium instead.

>> No.12971455

>>12969667
>Do you make money? This is objectively good
>Do you give away money? This is objectively bad