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12952978 No.12952978 [Reply] [Original]

>leader of rebellion against a mad ruler
>it's the fucking prince

Is this the most used model in the whole fiction?

>> No.12952995

>>12952978
Rebellion of prince pretending to be mad against his supervisor(often uncle from maternal side) who usurped a crown after killing prince's father(while also raping his mother) is more common.

>> No.12953003

>>12952978
>it's a "no one minds the guy who looks stereotypically evil while he's welcomed into the court, and then he ends up killing the king and becoming ruler" episode

>> No.12953008

>>12952978
The mad ruler is illegitimate, remember.

>> No.12953184
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12953184

>>12952978
It's common, but most used in all fiction? Nah

>> No.12953226

>>12953184
We already have a thread shitting on that book.

>> No.12953241

>>12953008
this is a very good trope and much preferable to the alternative.

>> No.12953468

>>12952978
>follower of conformity for a sane civilization
>it's the fucking commoner
that's the stuff of good fiction

>> No.12953652

>>12952978
Art imitates life op. Who tf else besides a prince or king-regent or some such individual located very highly in the line of succession would be apt to successfully lead a rebellion against a tyrannical monarch? Some literally-who count or grand duke of randoland?

>> No.12954596

>>12952978
Dumb frogposter

>> No.12954630
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12954630

>>12952978
>The rightful heir gets assassinated by a postal service on his way to reclaim the throne

>> No.12955654

>>12953184
Haven't read it but does he actually back his claim and name a thousand protagonists that are very similar?

>> No.12955679

>>12953652
In our lifetime in the past hundreds of years most rulers due to inbreeding were either crazy, retarded or weak so not sure how well that corelates in Ancient/antiquity times but suffice to say Royals were always shitty leaders so actual tyrants not from the Noble line might actually be a benefit really. Reason enough why OP's trope is prevalent in fiction.

>> No.12955692

>>12953652
I'd like to write a story about a revolution led by some fat pervert with a cocaine addiction who leads only by mailing letters to a group of college students. He sees only a few of them and does nothing but write, fuck underage girls, and eat buttery pastries. The revolution begins to fall apart as a Chad in the student group starts to lie about what is written in the letters in order to create a more egalitarian society and flush out corruption. Panicked, the fat perv then has to leave his disgusting home and try to gain control of the situation, only to be arrested and executed. The population, thinking the students were the leaders of the revolution, pay the execution no mind and it is reported in the party papers as "Influential academic and adviser to [Chad] arrested on charges of corruption."

>> No.12955724

>>12954630
That's why you shouldn't antagonize the horn