/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.12946765]

Is it immoral to steal a library book? I want this book and it costs like 70 bucks. No one has ever checked it out or would miss it probably, also I don't want to read the pdf I like physical books so don't say that

[Anonymous No.12946767]

>>12946765
>Is it immoral to steal
yes

[Anonymous No.12946773]

>>12946767
College should be free so I consider it part of my tuition. I just don't want to prevent someone from having access to the book since it wont be in the library anymore

[Anonymous No.12946779]

>>12946765
>Is it immoral to steal a library book?
Only if there’s a chance you will suffer. If you’re an atheist, then you should steal it if your chances of getting punished are guaranteed to be zero. But the existence of an afterlife means that you’re always held accountable, since every action you do could affect your future rewards or punishments.

Morality is completely derived from self-benefit.

[Anonymous No.12946789]

>>12946779
the punishment could be secular and come in the form of someone I empathize with being denied access to the book because of my actions if they also prefer physical copies of books and aren't rich

[Anonymous No.12946807]

I bought this from Amazon Marketplace for 3 bucks last month, lmao.

[Anonymous No.12946816]

>>12946807
a physical copy??? damn I gotta check again rq

[Anonymous No.12946817]

>>12946773
If you have made up your mind already, why pose the question to us?

[Not max stirner No.12946818]

It depends on whether you place the intellectual betterment of anyone over yourself; do you think that your inability to access information which may be necessary for the cultivation and manifestation of your potential is justified so long as the average person in your society has potential access to it, regardless of their desire for it, or capacity to comprehend and articulate wisdom from it?

What if no one wants it?

Isn't society better served giving someone no one wants to the one person who needs it?

[Anonymous No.12946820]

>>12946765

Here's an idea - what if you stole it, read it, and then put it back

[Anonymous No.12946822]

nah, libraries are book prisons

[Anonymous No.12946827]

>>12946816
Yeah, physical copy, hardback.

[Anonymous No.12946828]

>>12946820
genuinely got my noggin' joggin there. Problem is, most books have a chip on the cover. In order to steal successfully you'll probably need to remove the whole cover just to be safe.

[Anonymous No.12946829]

>>12946765
just make a pdf and then print and bind it...

[Anonymous No.12946831]

>>12946765
Why don't you just enjoy it then return it?

[Anonymous No.12946832]

>>12946820
lol return to the scene of the crime?
>>12946807
looks like you can get a copy for 10 bucks but it looks sketchy theres no picture of it
>>12946822
the one in my university is totally neglected, I've never seen a book that was checked out anytime in the last several years

[Anonymous No.12946836]

>>12946831
It would take me a while to read, actually hadn't considered just checking it out though desu lol

[Anonymous No.12946840]

>>12946779
>muh heaven
>muh hell
How in the world are religious people even being taken seriously with this kind of infantile reasoning?
Morality hinges on "muh afterlife"?
Get real, buddy

[Anonymous No.12946841]

>>12946828

Oof. Didn't see that plot twist coming. I was assuming you had a way to steal it without damaging it. ... What about dropping it out of a window in a comfy waterproof opaque bag? You could probably just hand it back to the returns desk and they'd assume someone forgot to check you out.

[Anonymous No.12946847]

>>12946818
since it can be accessed online its a specific situation where someone at my uni would have to want to read it (already unlikely, I go to brainlet university) and they would have to want to only read the physical copy, its unlikely but still if they did exist and I denied them the experience I would be fucking over a 'fellow traveler'

[Anonymous No.12946849]

>>12946832
Learn to use bookfinder.com and their "view all matches combined" function.

[Anonymous No.12946851]

>>12946840
>muh
why do retards think this invalidates anything? it just makes you look like a moron who can't legitimately argue their point

[Anonymous No.12946852]

How do you steal a book from the library successfully? You guys got any methods? How do I get past the library falcon?

[Anonymous No.12946854]

>>12946789
The state isn’t a moral authority.

[Anonymous No.12946856]

>>12946836
fucking GOD

[Anonymous No.12946871]

>>12946847

But if there's a digital copy, that fellow traveler can just read it from a computer screen. You would be depriving a hypothetical person only the pleaure of holding the book in their hands.

[Anonymous No.12946875]

>>12946852

Mice. Bring a cardboard box full of mice in with you. They won't even notice you're stealing a book

[Anonymous No.12946879]

>>12946847
I personally have zero qualms regarding pirating music or videos. And that is unequivocally stealing. It's simply that the potential for consequences from society or law enforcement is, demonstrably, for all purposes, practically zero.

Stealing from a library is more or less the same principle action in my estimation; because in each case, the same presuppositions would be used to justify the act morally and ethically. Being, I value my certain gain over a random person's uncertain potential gain.

>Perhaps I'm just an asshole.

[Anonymous No.12946889]

>>12946852
>How do I get past the library falcon?
Impossible. Can't be done. In all my years of library theft I have never heard of even one case of someone managing to get past the falcon. Go to a library without a falcon. Some of the older neglected libraries can't afford to carry a falcon any longer, outside their allotted budget. Got to find one of those. Check inner city libraries.

[Anonymous No.12946894]

>>12946765
I decry the lack of Fourier memes. Not just a foundational socialist thinker but also the originator of the term 'feminism', and he's everything we could wish for.

[Anonymous No.12946896]

>>12946889

Actually, you're allowed to take whatever you want out with you during a fire drill. They turn off the alarms. You just need an accomplice to set it off

[Anonymous No.12946900]

>>12946836
>actually hadn't considered just checking it out

[Anonymous No.12946902]

>>12946773
>College should be free so

[Anonymous No.12946903]

>>12946896
What do you do about the falcon?

[Anonymous No.12946907]

>>12946889
I've found that inner city libraries have started letting in the library trolls from the surrounding dumsters to inspect the underpants of visitors in lieu of the falcon.

[Anonymous No.12946912]

>>12946836
You are a fucking retard, anon.

[Anonymous No.12946915]

Why don’t you just fucking loan it from the library, read it, and then return it

[Anonymous No.12946918]

>>12946894
What an utter retard.

[Anonymous No.12946923]

>>12946836
Do we really share a board with people like this?

[Anonymous No.12946927]

>>12946907
Ah, the library trolls. That's an easy fix. They're very easy to bribe. Just carry some cheap candies in your pocket. They can't resist sweets, and the library staff don't allow them any. When they pat you down they'll feel the sweets in your pockets. They get the message fairly quickly, they'll let you carry anything out, but make sure to bring enough for all of them. Library trolls are very communitarian. They share everything.

[Anonymous No.12946933]

>>12946903

Do library falcons not leave with the librarians during fire drills in Europe? In America we don't leave birds behind

[Anonymous No.12946940]

My highschool constantly fucked me over because I refused to bend to their bullshit proto-SJW stances and I got detention often despite high marks. So I stole pretty much every astro-physics, vaguely-urban legend or conspiracy, or comic compendium they have. I guess I was just punishing then younger students but those zoomers have 4g internet and don't give a fuck about anything I took anyway so no harm no foul.

[Anonymous No.12946949]

>>12946933
I'm afraid that working conditions for French falcons are not quite up to American standards. They don't even allow the falcons to organize any unions! Barbaric customs, really. I hope one day we'll make the sort of strides in civil rights that America has pioneered.

[Anonymous No.12946950]

>>12946851
Great job at entirely missing the point and getting butthurt over stylistic choices.
Consider this: Why should kind of morality ultimately hing on some abstract cosmic standard of good and bad? That doesn’t help anyone except cause people to blindly follow some authority which claims to possess the knowledge of these "standards" out of fear that if they don’t little men in devil costumes will poke them with pitchforks for all eternity once the die.
Shouldn't morality rather be based off how our actions affect others?
You can make a case against stealing because having things stolen from you fucking sucks, it makes you paranoid and feel horrible, isn’t that reason enough to say stealing is "bad“?

[Anonymous No.12946951]

>>12946940

Give us some smuggling advice senpai

[Anonymous No.12946957]

>>12946940
I don't believe you.

[Anonymous No.12946966]

>>12946950
Your tone with respect to theological moral archetypes is indicative of a low resolution comprehension of the metaphysics of morality.

Nerd.

[Anonymous No.12946977]

I probably shouldn’t tell this story, but once I witnessed a man sneak past the library falcon with a stolen book. Now, this happened on tuna Wednesday and the falcon was being fed his tuna while my friend was in the philosophy section and was checking out The Ego and It’s Own. He slipped it under his arm and walked over the the library hotdog stand while another friend (we’ll call him Friend B) bumped into him and made Friend A drop the book. This drew the attention of the falcon away from his tuna as a third friend (Friend C) snuck a copy of Kant’s 2nd critique past the falcon desk and through the front door. Upon hearing the book alarm the falcon started to chase Friend C while we ran out the door with our stolen book.
When the falcon caught friend C, he showed the falcon the cameras and the falcon understood that it was just a prank. Or so he thought.

[Anonymous No.12946992]

>>12946951
Pretend to read it and shove it in your bag? If you have some kind of electric tag idk, I didn't care that much
>>12946957
You don't believe some edge fag stole 30 books from a school in 2008? I was getting arrested for posting on 4chan on 2008, much less exacting retribution against the school library

[Anonymous No.12946995]

>>12946977

Career criminals. Savage. Nihilistic. And with a wicked sense of humor. You have a bright future ahead of you. Just remember to avoid the stool pidgeons.

[Anonymous No.12946996]

>>12946966
So you have no argument and are just getting more assmad?
good job retard

[Anonymous No.12947000]

>>12946977
Wow, that's a pretty elaborate scheme. That wouldn't work for me though, since I generally work solo. I hope your friend wasn't too badly injured by the falcon...those talons, man...sharper than a motherfucker.

[Anonymous No.12947014]

>>12946996
Imagine if you said something retarded about physics to a physics professor and he responded "You sound like you don't even know the basics of what you're talking about." And your response was ...

>So you have no argument and are just getting more assmad?
>good job retard

[Anonymous No.12947022]

>>12947000
You must be a euro. In America it’s really quite easy to sneak a book past the goblins who guard the exits to the library sulphur mines. Sometimes they will have a falcon down there though, it’s not common however

[Anonymous No.12947023]

>>12946992

Maybe you could get a small flat iron (for straightening women's hair), take it and the book with you into a single person library bathrom, and gently heat up the tag beween the tongs and peel it off.

Actually, to liberate knowledge, you could just start doing that with every book in the library. Stick the tags on people you dislike and walk past all smug while they get searched by the falcon

[Anonymous No.12947024]

>>12946950
no one cares, retard

[Anonymous No.12947039]

>>12946950
>Shouldn't morality rather be based off how our actions affect others?
Why? Everything we do is based on self-benefit. Morality is the same. Those with power and influence can act “immoral” but still thrive. They will have their reward! But religion attempts to prevent this lifestyle. Why does this bother you so much?

[Anonymous No.12947041]

>>12947024

Actually, I care.

[Anonymous No.12947048]

>>12947014
Are you dumb? Slow? An imbecile?
You’re a faceless nobody on here unless you can actually proof your "expertise"
Everything you said so far has amounted to
>no u

[Anonymous No.12947055]

find it used. one time I found a book on morphosyntax going for over $50 on Amazon, and looking around other websites led me to a $15 used copy in good condition

[Anonymous No.12947057]

>>12947048
>proof your "expertise"

[Anonymous No.12947059]

>>12946765
Fuck no, steal that shit, just pants the books, you’ll get dicky sweat but you can clean it off when you get home

[Anonymous No.12947073]

>>12947039
My point was that the whole reward/punishment argument is not useful or insightful.

[Anonymous No.12947078]

>>12947048
I'm a /lit/ celebrity; everytime you see an insightful and philosophically 100% correct statement in a post, it's me.

[Anonymous No.12947081]

>>12946765

[Anonymous No.12947084]

>>12947057
>>12947078
>no u

[Anonymous No.12947099]

>>12947073
But that’s what morality is derived from. The only reason people don’t do what is considered “immoral” is because of the consequences, not because of pure selflessness. The reason philosophers and politicians and laypeople alike all try to impose morality on society is because they believe their proposed systems will benefit society and therefore themselves and their species. If you view morality any other way, you’ll never have a clear grasp of anything and the debate will always be blurry.

[Anonymous No.12947143]

>>12947099
Yeah, right because the moment religion vanishes we'll start stealing and killing each other indiscriminately.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.12947171]

kleptomania is a homosexual tendency.

[Anonymous No.12947175]

>>12947171
b-butterfly! I trusted you!

[Anonymous No.12947176]

>>12947143

[Anonymous No.12947184]

>>12946765
why not just borrow it tho??? it's a library????? borrowing them is literally what you do?????

[Anonymous No.12947186]

>>12947176
>>12947143
>>12947099

Get a room, lovebirds

[Anonymous No.12947210]

>>12947186
>moment religion vanishes we'll start stealing and killing each other indiscriminately.
Point is that's literally what happened but it's of course more complex than that.

[Anonymous No.12947217]

>>12947143
No, obviously, because there are still punishments in this life. No one’s just gonna kill when prisons exist. But sexual immorality and other not-so “immoral” sins in this life would be committed far more often in the absence of religion. A Christian is far more likely to not be a drug using faggot who gossips and obsesses over his appearance and gets emotional too easily.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.12947226]

>>12947175
Trust no one my fine dude.

[Anonymous No.12947231]

>>12946765
morality doesnt exist, besides if someone needs the book the libary will just order a new one

[Anonymous No.12947248]

>>12947143

>>12947231

Well that’s interesting isn’t it

[Anonymous No.12947266]

>>12947210
Why should the atrocities of an atheist state be counted as the product of irreligion?
Are the atrocities of a state which recognizes religious authority the product of religion?

[Anonymous No.12947271]

>>12947248

We've been over this. There's a digital copy on the university servers, and we're trying to have a serious discussion here about birds

[Anonymous No.12947289]

>>12946765
it costs money to check out library books? what?

[Anonymous No.12947295]

>>12947217
>the capital G man in the sky said sex out of wedlock is bad
This is what I mean by what fucking standard is something immoral?
You could make an emotional argument or rely on reason to declare something immoral but simply pointing to hell is unconvincing, and again not helpful at all.

[Anonymous No.12947327]

>>12947295
It’s very clear how sins are immoral. When you’re obsessed with pleasures at the expense of actually improving your life (what good is recreational sex?) then you just end up on a slippery slope, getting farther and farther from God. Because who cares about his soul when he has material pleasures? What’s interesting is that someone who lives a sinless lifestyle will benefit in this life! They will have a clear and honest conscience and positive and practical outlook on life. To think that we aren’t sinning is one main reason for disbelief. Why believe that what you do is wrong? No! I want to keep doing it! Therefore God doesn’t exist! I am using a human argument here, though no one dare say it aloud. We are full of sin and we know it on some level, but few are willing to openly admit it and repent.

[Anonymous No.12947332]

>>12947266
You really need to think deeper than the Dawkins types and I'm not in the mood for a discussion at this level - I'm sure you'll find a suitable antagonist on here. The actual reasons are very complex but there would be the simple point that there were targeted mass crimes against priests and believers in the name of 'scientific atheism'.

>In the years 1917–1935, 130,000 Russian Orthodox priests were arrested; 95,000 were put to death, executed by firing squad.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union

[Anonymous No.12947379]

>>12947332
Society in the Soviet Union still didn’t break down just because they abolished religion.
Murder of dissidents is hardly an argument.

[Anonymous No.12947383]

>>12947327
lmao, have a nice second death

[Anonymous No.12947387]

If it's a public library or community college, then yes.

If it's some gate keeping university library, fuck them. Just donate it to a local library when you're done having it on your bookshelf.

[Anonymous No.12947389]

>>12947248
but morality never existed its always been a social construct, and for every wolf there will be a million sheep, society doesnt need Christianity anymore to uphold morality giving breakthroughs in police work

[Anonymous No.12947396]

>>12947332
>>12947379
The state didn't give a rat's ass about religion, it was an excuse to seize church property and send vast numbers of obedient Christians to the forced labor camps, which were considered indispensible to the socialist "economic development plans". They were convenient cannon fodder, they died of starvation and exposure and overwork without much protest, and their numbers were inexhaustible because faith springs eternal.

[Anonymous No.12947615]

>>12946894
Pretty sure it was champagne not lemonade. There are lots of Fourierist memes but you might kill yourself if we put up clips from Metropolitan

[Anonymous No.12947731]

>>12946818
This sounds dangerously close to Raskolnikov's theory

[Anonymous No.12947772]

>>12946765
> steal from library
very immoral. just borrow it, scan for yourself, then return the book.
> steal from bookstore
go for it

[Anonymous No.12947775]

>>12947772
It's out of print, anon. Where are you going to steal it from if the bookstores don't have it?

[Anonymous No.12947783]

>>12946765
no

also, there's libgen.io

[Anonymous No.12948117]

>>12946765
as a criminal, I suggest you think about it for a week and then make a good plan on stealing it if you still want it
if it is on government property don't feel remorse

[Anonymous No.12948124]

>>12947772
this
scan it, three hole punch, and put it in a binder. costs 4-5 bucks using low ink methods/efficient printing and someone else like you in the future can steal the actual book

[Anonymous No.12948127]

>>12946773
No college shouldn't be free, it should be expensive enought to lock You entitled little shits out. It would even be good for the job market.

[Anonymous No.12948131]

>>12946779
>Morality is completely derived from self-benefit
Fallacy upon fallacy upon fallacy in an endless stack. Please shot yourself in the head and plead self defense.

[Anonymous No.12948153]

That's the point of a library anon, you take the book, read it, then you return it and because it is not a demanded book then you'll be able to take it whenever you want.

Hope this helped.

[Anonymous No.12948195]

Utilitarianism: yes, it is immoral because you may get some joy from keeping it but in doing so you are depriving countless others from also getting joy from it

Kant: yes, it is immoral because if everyone did it library’s wouldn’t be able to exist and they are generally thought of as a good thing to have around

Nicomachian: yes, it is immoral because it isn’t virtuous to steel goods and thus does not aim at the overall good

[Anonymous No.12948264]

>>12946773
It is immoral only if you do not borrow it, report lost, pay for the loss.

The library wasnt funded and stocked so that (You) can just come in and nick shit like a fucking nigger.

People like you are why i can never find Campbell at my local even though listed in inventory and "NOT ON LOAN"; why every /fit/ mag i see on the shelf right fucking now has the workout of the month ripped out the middle.

You godless barbarian asshole. Forget this book, read a book on manners first, you son of a shit.

Air should be free too; also restful nights. Therefore if i am your neighbor and you like to smoke and have mariachi mixes of linkinpark playing at 10pm, i am entitled to steal your morning paper as recompense?

Jews cheat; niggers steal. If you must, be a fucking jew, not a goddamnd nigger.

[Anonymous No.12948379]

>>12948264
>Mariachi mixes of linkinpark
Who hurt you?

[Anonymous No.12948398]

If it's from a uni library, i.e. Not open to the public anyway, go ahead and take that fucker, just don't be surprised if it gets tracked down to you at some point lol

[Anonymous No.12948452]

>>12948379
Replace mariachi linkinpark with folk religion buddhist chanting at 9-11pm, replace cig smoke with bonfires of jossgoods one and a half months in the year.

I loathe it, lodge complaints, get the error resolved, not help myself to their shoes and potted bonzai using rationalization to cover up my coveteousness.

The chanter stops fucking howling for the gods, the bonfires stop being recreations of apocalypse.

[Anonymous No.12948459]

>>12946765
Just checked ebay, and saw it available for as low as $27. Just buy it you fag.

[Anonymous No.12948473]

>>12948459
Lol cheapass nigger cant afford 27 for a book he wants badly enough to steal.

That mean OP just wanna steal.

[Anonymous No.12948488]

>>12946836
>College should be free

[Anonymous No.12948571]

Yes, and it's just viscerally gross for guy to do. Stealing is a very feminine type of behaviour.

[Anonymous No.12948590]

>>12946765
cute hands

[Anonymous No.12948739]

>>12948264
You're a bitter misanthrope and bigot, but a good and amusing writer.

[Anonymous No.12948814]

>>12946879
>And that is unequivocally stealing
No, it actually is not similar to stealing in any way whatsoever, you fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.12948821]

>>12948127
>poor people shouldn’t be allowed to go to the college
Kill yourself my dude

[Anonymous No.12948832]

>>12948264
>i am entitled to steal your morning paper as recompense?
yes, absolutely, how is this even a question

[Anonymous No.12948854]

>>12947731
>Implying Raskolnikov was wrong

[Anonymous No.12948875]

>>12948832
It is unhelpful; now the neighborhood has a mariachi devilworshipper AND a shoe/newspaper thief.

The mariachis also have no idea their papers go missing directly because of their nightly blockparties; they will keep being a racket until they are told or compelled by authority.

I recognise the karmic weight might be similar (newspaper vs 'quilatime), but the problem remains unsolved. I dont want to hear Fred Durst crawling in my sleep any more i got work tomorrow cholo.

[Anonymous No.12948921]

>>12948739
Very nice of you to say so.

Guilty on all counts.

[Anonymous No.12948943]

>>12946765
Transcribe it and post to libgen if you want to atone for your sins.

[Anonymous No.12948947]

>>12948943
Yes this.

[Anonymous No.12948954]

>>12948131
Not an argument

[Anonymous No.12948980]

>>12948571
>t. virgin neet
obeying laws and following orders for the sake of it is biologically female

[Anonymous No.12949011]

>>12946765
>pdf is available
>wants to be a nigger anyway
Fuck you, OP.

[Anonymous No.12949117]

>>12946765
Just pirate it lmao quit being a nigger.

[Anonymous No.12949126]

Yes it's immortal even more so if it's from the library because you are stealing from the community.

[Anonymous No.12949132]

>all the idiots ITT saying it’s immoral without explaining why

[Anonymous No.12949150]

>>12949132
>reading all those posts and not one registered
You've already decided.

Just steal it and pat yourself on the back.

Have a (You).

[Anonymous No.12949241]

>>12946765
print out the pdf?

[Anonymous No.12949310]

>>12948821
You genuinely should be excluded from having access to bourgeois society because of your mindset. Poor people shouldn't go to college unless they have deemed themselves worthy via meritorious acts which would incentivize someone to sponsor them through the process. The very debasement of higher learning to being an act of the common people rather than those who are truly capable has reduced its utility to the point of absurdity.

[Anonymous No.12949326]

>>12946765

Literally just steal it and don't look back.

t. Library technician.

[Anonymous No.12949361]

>>12949310
Or you could go fuck yourself and wait for the angry masses to knock on your door and make anon on a stick

[Anonymous No.12949411]

>>12949361
The angry masses should be angry at the people pulling the strings economically to make college an essential requirement for the vast majority of professional positions which otherwise shouldn't need them. If there should be any revolt it shouldn't be against the people wish to preserve college as a functional institution, it should be against the people who wish to make it easily available through guaranteed loans/government reimbursement and thus a requirement for entering into the professional class.

[Anonymous No.12949419]

>>12949361
Also, the angry masses aren't going to come knocking on my door. They're too busy using Uber eats to get Buffalo wild wings delivered and getting Chinese made Amazon prime sex toys they can use after they smoke pot. They've effectively been pacified from meaningful action (or even understanding who is truly lording over them) by the very vices leftists push to normalize.

[Anonymous No.12949423]

This thread reminds me of my last year of high school when I borrowed "How to read a book" from my pseud lit teacher's shelf (she never touched it) and came extremely close to slipping a $20 where the book was to make up for snatching it. In the end I put it back before graduation though, so I never finished the book. It's good though, I recommend it.

[Anonymous No.12949437]

>>12949310
>rich people can get into college by virtue of just being rich even though they didn't earn it
Die prole

[Anonymous No.12949568]

>>12946836
>actually hadn't considered just checking it out though desu lol

[Anonymous No.12949777]

>>12946765
You could see if the library would lend it to you for a few days to read?

[Anonymous No.12950124]

>steal a book from a library
>steal
>from a libary
>a place where you can read the book for free
come on

[Anonymous No.12950143]

>>12949437
High IQ is strongly correlated with wealth. IQ is also strongly hereditary. Rich and smart people breed rich and smart people.

[Anonymous No.12950149]

>>12950143
>all rich people are smart

[Anonymous No.12950150]

Nigga, go on the staples website, upload the pdf and they will print it out and spiral bind it for you for like 20 bucks.

[Anonymous No.12950155]

>>12950149
most are

[Anonymous No.12950158]

>>12946836
Maybe higher education isn't for you. Have you considered a janitorial job?

[Anonymous No.12950165]

>>12946765
You don't look black OP.
Just borrow it.
What's with this need to posses everything, I swear I only own like 5 books but I've read hundreds borrowed and in digital form

[Anonymous No.12950192]

>>12946765
Why do you want to steal/buy the book?
If you have a library card you can just check it out. If not, try telling the librarian that you just don’t have the money to buy it and want to borrow it for a while, and maybe they’ll be sympathetic.

[Anonymous No.12950604]

>>12950149
They're certainly smarter than you, that's pretty apparent.

[Anonymous No.12950632]

>>12949437
You seem like a totally intelligent person worthy of spending educational resources on. I'd highly recommend actually trying to experience the world beyond the boundaries of your own vanity, though you don't seem to be the type to actually learn from your experiences.

[Anonymous No.12950701]

>>12946765
Yes it is immortal.
That's why you should do it.

[Anonymous No.12950711]

>>12948488
>college shouldn't be free

[Anonymous No.12950753]

>>12950632
Not him but what limited educational resources are there besides
>paywalled textbooks
>lecture seats
>office hours
Every educational text may as well be online with all the online-integrated assignments nowadays. Then every third-worlder can elevate themselves to a post-secondary westerner's level of knowledge without excuses. Standards of living soar across the world. That's what I thought the information age was going to spearhead. Instead we have aforementioned moodle quiz bank garbage and new editions of Textbook every other year barring Professor's own 400-page copypasta he stapled together himself and is selling at 3,500% markup.

No, no, no. That's all wrong. Alas, we must go into five figures of denbt to get the full college experience of Marxist indoctrination and STIs. Anti-intellectualism is just a phase you will ride out.

[Anonymous No.12950828]

>>12946765
Do it. I stole many books from my college lirbary. they were still on the old stamp card in the back method so I could see they hadnt been checked out for their entire 9 year stay in the system, now they live where someone appreciates them.

[Anonymous No.12950835]

>>12946779
this is not how ethics and morality works, start with the greeks you retard

[Anonymous No.12951067]

>>12950835
Not an argument. Would the ancient Greeks not agree to the idea of being a moral person in order to be more virtuous, which benefits you, which aligns with my position? Why would anyone want to be moral if it didn’t benefit him in some way?

[Anonymous No.12951786]

>>12946765
you may only steal from goyim libraries

[Anonymous No.12952093]

>>12946765
>should I steal this book from the library if I can't buy it?

They will let you take it home for free dipshit.

[Anonymous No.12952097]

>>12946836
You should feel bad anon

[Anonymous No.12952434]

>>12950149
Yeah, because we all know how it's always the mogoloids oppressing and exploiting the geniuses.

[Anonymous No.12952493]

>>12950753
Educational institutions use a massive amount of power and are generally very expensive to upkeep, let alone actually improve as is generally required to stay up to date technologically for the fields requiring that.

Also, your utopian ideal of the information age is a pipe dream. Most "first" world Hispanics who were born and raised here will likely never actually read a book voluntarily, and the idea that they will get anything meaningful out of your idealized automated "education" system is just as laughable as the idea that standards of living increase as the population becomes more educated.

This idea that standards of living follow education rather than the other way around (that improved standards of living allow for more space that education can occupy) is precisely the backwards reasoning that got us into the mess we're in today where we have a "knowledge based economy" where many post college professional careers provide less economic stability than working a labor position at a grocery store 40 years ago.

While your complaints about the unnecessary nonsense that has accompanied modern "higher" education are certainly valid, they entirely misunderstand how these circumstances came to be in the first place. The bottleneck on an educated population is first and foremost students who are capable and genuinely interested in higher learning rather than simply a higher economic status. Most universities have become a cargo cult in which professors who don't know how to teach go through the motions for a massive body of students who have no interest in learning, and the only way they can even attempt to weed out the students who will not perform well professionally is by making things logistically difficult because they cannot directly test for aptitude in any meaningful sense. A well educated general population is a pipe dream, and that we have even achieved the abysmal rates of literacy and academic engagement we have today is a reflection on how truly bourgeois and economically privileged things have been the last 80 or so years.

[Anonymous No.12952501]

>>12951067
Most people aren't autistic like you and they feel a compulsion to not want to be ostracized from society. Yes, you could frame acting upon responsibilities to the group as being tangentially related to self interest, but that fundamentally misses the point. Your group is just as critical to you surviving as you are to your group, and just because at the moment we have a society that is luxurious beyond imagination which has allowed people to bask in alienation and hyperconsumerism, that doesn't mean these instincts towards group preservation that you have had evolved into you don't hold water.

[Anonymous No.12953883]

>>12946773
>college should be free
this is something i dont understand, outside the context of state schools, which yes, should be state funded

[Anonymous No.12953905]

>>12946765
boy the book goes for 12 euros ffs
https://www.amazon.de//gp/offer-listing/0826204260/sr=/qid=/?condition=used&tag=bookfinder-de-test-a-21

[Anonymous No.12953934]

>>12947731
Teens comparing political situations to Harry Potter-tier opinion