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Hey niggers I wanna start reading
Is Don Quixote a good place to start that book seems interesting
How many books do I need to read before my brain is big enough for Infinite Jest since that one also seems interesting

>> No.12930217

Yes but don't get a shit translation
420

>> No.12930220

>>12930214
It's pronounced nigga.

>> No.12930231

>>12930217
Which ones are shit
I've been thinking about reading the Grossman translation

>> No.12930240

>>12930231
Grossman is a pretty good choice. Honestly your best bet is to read samples from a few and see which one is easiest and most enjoyable to read. It's difficult to get through a long book when you're just starting to read and there is no reason to make that task any harder than it needs to be.

>> No.12930245

>>12930214
>Hey niggers
based

>> No.12930249
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>anglos reading translations
Hispanic master race

>> No.12930298

>>12930231
Read Grossman if you want a "Don Quixote for dummies" version. If you want something closer to the original, read the Ormsby translation.

>> No.12930317

>>12930214
once your brain gets big enough for infinite jest you won't have the urge to read it

>> No.12930339

>>12930214
A bit of potential advice - Auerbach in his book "Mimesis" had an interesting view of DQ - that it's not really the parody of knighthood and chivalric ideals that is the point of the novel, but, simply put, how humane and comfy the whole experience of reading it is.
I hope you'll like the book, it's one of my favourites.
Regarding IJ, don't worry too much about getting or not getting the references and such shit, nobody can do that completely. If you think it looks interesting, just try reading it.

>> No.12930348

>>12930214
>>12930231
Your best options are:
John Ormsby, Edith Grossman, and the Orsmby revision that Joseph Ramon Jones and Kenneth Douglas did in 1981.
Ormsby is the most accurate, but his prose is a bit archaic. Grossman is the easiest to read, but she's the least accurate of the three. Jones and Douglas provide a nice middle ground (less archaic than regular Ormsby, more accurate than Grossman). Take your pick.

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>>12930317

>> No.12930379

>>12930214
>Is Don Quixote a good place to start that book seems interesting
>How many books do I need to read before my brain is big enough for Infinite Jest since that one also seems interesting
What have you ever heard about literature that make you think you would pass through Don Quixote on your way to Infinite Jest??

protip: you'll find Infinite Jest at the basecamp, if you ever get to the peak then you can read Don Quixote

>> No.12930402

>>12930214
>>12930231
If you're new to reading and really want to read Don Quixote, go for the Grossman translation. Her translation has its flaws but it's a fun read.

>> No.12930408

>>12930240
>Honestly your best bet is to read samples from a few and see which one is easiest and most enjoyable to read
Follow this advice, OP.

>> No.12930415

>>12930348
>Ormsby is the most accurate, but his prose is a bit archaic.

That's a good thing. A Spanish speaking person reading Don Quixote today also finds Cervantes' prose archaic and difficult. Ormsby's archaic prose gives you the feel and atmosphere of the original.
Grossman is a translator of modern latin american literature, she has no idea about the language of the 17th century so she gets a lot of expressions and words wrong.

>> No.12930446

>>12930402
Grossman's Don Quixote shouldn't have Cervantes name in it, to be honest.

>> No.12930449

Stop treating books like video game achievements, moron. Also stop watching anime.

>> No.12930453

>>12930449
I only like Evangelion, which is art

>> No.12930458

>>12930415
Yeah, I know. I'm just giving OP a warning since he's new to reading. I don't want him to read part of the Ormsby translation, say "this is too hard," and give up on reading Don Quixote.

OP, go here: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/5921/5921-h/5921-h.htm

Go to chapter 1 and read the first few paragraphs. Then go to chapter 2 and read the first few paragraphs. Then compare and contrast Ormsby to other translations. Go with whichever one is the most enjoyable.

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>>12930453
Check out Gravity's Rainbow my man

>> No.12930582

>>12930557
what happens in this passage? what is the raketen-stadt?

>> No.12930602

>>12930214
just read Crime and Punishment like the regular newfag

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>>12930582

>> No.12930682

>>12930214

If this is a real request, honestly start with shit like "The Phantom Tollbooth" and "The Hobbit". Then never read fantasy again and switch to classic novels.

>> No.12931173

>>12930458
This doesn't seem too hard. Definitely doesn't feel like modern English but I can understand it at least.

>> No.12931269

>800 page book as your first foray back into reading
stupid
fucking
weeb

>> No.12931275

>>12931269
>number of pages = difficulty

>> No.12932181

>>12931269
you seem like the stupid one desu