How come when the Antichrist writes a book, it possesses all the qualities of youth: enthusiasm, foolishness, and love? And the Bible that of an old man, so much more severe, stern, and weary? Are there honestly people on this board who prefer reading the latter?

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Anonymous Sat Apr 13 02:40:05 2019 No.12926869 [Reply] [Original]

How come when the Antichrist writes a book, it possesses all the qualities of youth: enthusiasm, foolishness, and love? And the Bible that of an old man, so much more severe, stern, and weary? Are there honestly people on this board who prefer reading the latter?

Anonymous Sat Apr 13 02:51:28 2019 No.12926892

You're a retard who can't even form a proper question.

>How come when the Antichrist writes a book,
Who? Neitzche ? He's anti-Christ but he's not "The Anti-Christ" because that wouldn't make sense.

>it possesses all the qualities of youth: enthusiasm, foolishness, and love?
What specific book? Neitzche wrote several different books. None of which seem to carry the traits which you prescribe such a book.

>And the Bible that of an old man, so much more severe, stern, and weary?
The Bible isn't just one book. You need to stop looking it at that way, also all the books in the Bible are much older and less modern.
Also I believe severe, stern and weary is a much better description for a book that puts your soul through an anvil.

>Are there honestly people on this board who prefer reading the latter?

It depends on my current interest and reason to study, but yes the Bible wins decisively when I wish to read for pleasure.

« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE Sat Apr 13 02:56:06 2019 No.12926907
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>>12926869
I wonder this too. I think most of them just LARP it. They've bought into the Leap of Faith meme and stuck in their childhood "trad" programming.
Still so many of them hate Nietzsche without having read him, or read him poorly and misunderstand.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 02:58:58 2019 No.12926916 >>12926907 >If you're philosophically minded you have to believe in The leap of faith process

« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE Sat Apr 13 03:03:11 2019 No.12926923
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>>12926892
>that wouldn't make sense.
Why
>None of which seem to carry the traits
I'm no NIET scholar, but this is the general sense I retain. Read the Tholander essay, he can tell you better.
>The Bible isn't just one book
Cope. It's all decrepit NT and OT

>>12926916
What? Nothing like what I said.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 03:13:34 2019 No.12926951 >>12926923 >They've bought into the Leap of Faith meme and stuck in their childhood "trad" programming. Extrapolate the pathology this leads to >>12926923 So you're OP and you're samefagging your own thread? Fuck off

Anonymous Sat Apr 13 03:14:05 2019 No.12926953

>>12926892
>It depends on my current interest and reason to study, but yes the Bible wins decisively when I wish to read for pleasure.
>Also I believe severe, stern and weary is a much better description for a book that puts your soul through an anvil.

This is the power or bad conscience.

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE Sat Apr 13 03:15:01 2019 No.12926957 >>12926951 >So you're OP Naw

Anonymous Sat Apr 13 03:18:04 2019 No.12926960

>>12926957
Thanks for ignoring my other statement.
You're being shady as fuck.

>>that wouldn't make sense.
>Why
>>None of which seem to carry the traits
I'm no NIET scholar, but this is the general sense I retain. Read the Tholander essay, he can tell you better.
>>The Bible isn't just one book
>Cope. It's all decrepit NT and OT

So you're saying you agree with all of OP and responded to my post that was to OP as if you were OP but you're not OP?

If it quacks like a duck...

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 03:19:06 2019 No.12926964 >>12926953 You can have light reading of the Bible as well as a heavy reading of it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 03:19:30 2019 No.12926966 >>12926892 Zarathustra is an antichrist.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 03:20:35 2019 No.12926968 >>12926964 Why don't you embrace life, instead of denying it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 03:28:57 2019 No.12926984 >>12926968 I don't anon, and I don't think you know what you're talking Bout.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 03:37:47 2019 No.12926997 >>12926984 You know not the Will to Power, and you are not one to laugh.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 03:40:02 2019 No.12927002 >>12926997 I understand the will to power anon, I Do not agree with N's assessment of it's compatibility with God, how ever.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 03:47:03 2019 No.12927020 >>12927002 God is dead. Now stop posting, slave.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 03:59:30 2019 No.12927052 >>12927020 You claim you understand Neitzche and then you apply this idealogy wrongly?

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Anonymous Sat Apr 13 04:07:55 2019 No.12927068

>>12927061
It's funny Peterson is following Neitzche to the T about God being dead, yet Peterson continues to find substance about psychological truth from the Bible while keeping God 'dead'.

Yet if we use the Bible for any discourse we get people harping about appeal to authority, while saying "God is dead" and irrelevant.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 05:58:59 2019 No.12927277 >>12927068 No? He talks about God being dead because humanity killed him. But Nietzsche talks about God being killed out of pity for man.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 06:13:19 2019 No.12927307 File: 88 KB, 587x578, Lamb_of_God.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >ITT: fellow intellectuals of r/atheism

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 06:19:48 2019 No.12927326 File: 779 KB, 1920x1280, ArnoSchmidt_Filmbild1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >/lit/ is still in entry-level mode and not discussing Dya-Na-Sore by von Meyern do you even read?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 06:27:05 2019 No.12927344 >>12927307 Your God is a slave's revenge.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 06:44:19 2019 No.12927379 >>12926957 Butterfly I respond to all of you posts and you refuse to respond. Just send me a picture or something fuck :3

Anonymous Sat Apr 13 06:44:36 2019 No.12927380

>>12926966
No, not really. He's a secular being that embodies radical individualist yearning for reaching the Self in the Hegelian sense. He's not metaphysical. His entire ontological basis is the awareness of mankind's need for a pre-modern axiom system, caused, as you know, by the death of God. Zarathustra is as de-mystified as any other being in the post-enlightenment paradigm that Nietzsche is so worried about.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 06:47:18 2019 No.12927384 >>12927379 Not me :3

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 07:05:48 2019 No.12927422 File: 3.34 MB, 4128x3096, lolBTFO.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12927380 lol ok

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 07:15:03 2019 No.12927434 >>12927422 >what is a metaphor if you actually read Zarathustra, he never calls himself that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 07:20:56 2019 No.12927455 File: 849 KB, 3095x2095, lolBTFO.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12927380 >>12927422 fucking metadata

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 07:22:12 2019 No.12927463 >>12927434 Youre moving goalposts

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 07:32:12 2019 No.12927484 >>12927434 Furthermore, Nietzsche picked Zarathustra as a kind of irony. The one who created Good and Evil is the same one to surpass it. In this way, he is indeed an Antichrist.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 08:08:10 2019 No.12927551 >>12927380 Zarathustra is not a Hegelian being. Nietzsche was absolutely in opposition to Hegel and his phenomenology.

Anonymous Sat Apr 13 08:17:46 2019 No.12927565

>>12926869
nietzsche was dionysus the crucified, not the antichrist. nietzsche said nothing on "enthusiasm," didn't advocate foolishness, and disdained the desire for love (although he did laud falling in love, which is different). your opinion on the bible is just that - your opinion. personally i find christianity to be very youthful. overall you're a brainlet who has misunderstood both nietzsche and the bible! don't even read nietzsche if you're just going to hold it against the bible, especially when it seems like you're only talking about the old testament here, which nietzsche liked... have you even read any of these books?

Anonymous Sat Apr 13 08:21:05 2019 No.12927573
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>>12926869
Turns out old greasy Jewish men hate life and write their holy scripture accordingly. Meanwhile a white man is the polar opposite, therefore deserving the judeochristian smear title: Antichrist.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 08:24:02 2019 No.12927579 >>12927565 What exactly do you find youthful about a 2000 year old religion that offers eternal damnation for lack of guilt?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 08:32:17 2019 No.12927594 >>12927579 is there anything more youthful than eternal life?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 08:42:45 2019 No.12927622 >>12927594 No, there is nothing more world weary and life denying. This world is enough, in fact its plenty already.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 08:50:46 2019 No.12927646 >>12927622 how can the world be enough when there is no world?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 08:52:17 2019 No.12927649 >>12926869 i got hooooooooes calllllliiiiiiing

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 08:54:01 2019 No.12927652 >>12927646 >how can mirrors be real if our eye's aren't real

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 08:54:31 2019 No.12927657 >>12927652 moron

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 08:55:51 2019 No.12927663 I wouldn't call Nietzsche the Anti-Christ. And he's also expanding on ideas in the Bible in many ways. You'll get more out of TSZ if you read the Bible first.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 08:58:24 2019 No.12927676 >>12927622 >thinking Nietzsche is advocating for world-infatuation Retard

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 08:58:48 2019 No.12927680 File: 91 KB, 500x446, 1513140606284.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12927657 faggot

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 09:00:42 2019 No.12927691 >>12927676 I never implied that, bugman

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 09:02:27 2019 No.12927702 >>12927676 Read Zarathustra

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 09:07:07 2019 No.12927723 >>12927680 kill yourself

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 09:08:08 2019 No.12927730 >>12927691 >>12927702 >tips fedora

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 09:12:36 2019 No.12927746 >>12927723 >>12927730 epic win! But seriously, you guys aren't ready for Nietzsche. Go back to Hume, then Kant.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 09:24:48 2019 No.12927797 File: 7 KB, 226x223, abc.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12927746 you don't even understand nietzsche you fucking brainlet. all of us are smarter and have a better, deeper understanding of nietzsche than you. go read jordan peterson

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 09:27:44 2019 No.12927806 File: 754 KB, 607x609, 1554007305902.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12927797 >i was only pretending to be retarded! oof

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 09:30:01 2019 No.12927813 >>12927806 fuck you're stupid

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 09:52:06 2019 No.12927898 >>12927797 and i bet u integrate that function from -1 to 1 :)

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 10:00:56 2019 No.12927933 Great talk guys.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 10:33:58 2019 No.12928073 How come when OP makes a post, it possesses all the qualities of mental impairment: denseness, foolishness, and confusion?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 10:38:06 2019 No.12928094 >>12928073 better than 90% of the catalog tbqhwyf

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 10:38:21 2019 No.12928095 >>12927933 Funny how a dialogue can descent into "you don't know x as well as i, fuck you"... the epitome of someone who is just using words of a philosophy to just win arguments.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 10:40:03 2019 No.12928101 >>12926869 kill the old man inside you and act with unabashed passion I want to be a heart with testicles

Anonymous Sat Apr 13 11:06:50 2019 No.12928188

>>12926892
>Who? Neitzche ?
Yes? You know, the philosopher who wrote a book called The Antichrist, referred to himself as the Antichrist in his writings, and created a philosophy / value system that is the strongest form of anti-Christianity there is? Yes, that fellow.

>What specific book?
There is a specific book in the OP. Pay attention.

>None of which seem to carry the traits which you prescribe such a book.
You have clearly not read any of them from beginning to end, or Thus Spoke Zarathustra at all.

Also, it's Nietzsche, not "Neitzsche." Learn to spell.

>>12926907
>I think most of them just LARP it.
Agree. Judging by the thread, it appears most of the posters attacking Nietzsche / defending the Bible haven't really read much of either.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 11:26:52 2019 No.12928242 >>12928095 Yeah, for example: >>12927380 He uses big boy words to hide his lack of understanding in the matter. There is nothing more pseudo-intellectual than that

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 11:49:33 2019 No.12928308 >>12928101 nothing says unbridled passion for life like shitposting on 4chan on a Saturday

Anonymous Sat Apr 13 14:07:04 2019 No.12928821

>>12928188
>Yes? You know, the philosopher who wrote a book called The Antichrist, referred to himself as the Antichrist in his writings, and created a philosophy / value system that is the strongest form of anti-Christianity there is? Yes, that fellow.
I didn't know one can claim to be a something that already has a definition, and then change the meaning. Any one can be the Anti-Christ by simply denying Christ, but there is a "anti Christ" that is a specific person in revelation ( N isn't him)

>You have clearly not read any of them from beginning to end, or Thus Spoke Zarathustra at all.
I have and it's sad see the an intellectual using their own opinion as objective fact. I was just showing a differing view not claiming my view as fact.
>Also, it's Nietzsche, not "Neitzsche." Learn to spell.
I'm dyslexic, there is no need for such hostility.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 14:13:11 2019 No.12928840 >>12927565 >Dionysus the crucified >the How does it feel to be just as retarded as the guy you're replying to?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 14:20:49 2019 No.12928871 >>12928242 it's funny: you only believe these are "big boy words" because you're a 21 year old STEM sophomore bugman. nobody on /lit/ would call them that.

Anonymous Sat Apr 13 14:36:42 2019 No.12928958

>>12926869
the antichrist was a hedge against inevitable criticism, he is not nor ever will be a real person ("THE" antichrist). it remains a word that can be utilized as needed against any significant threat against the religion.

neitzsche breathed new life into christianity. he demands serious consideration of its foolishness and flaws. reading him will only make a christian better. he is wildly entertaining and witty, quite in opposition to millennia of terribly boring apologetics and metaphysics.

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Anonymous Sat Apr 13 14:55:40 2019 No.12929022

>>12926869
Nietzsche himself said that one shouldn't take him too seriously since he was himself a product of the Christianity he despised. As a Christian I find it highly ironic that he so eminently possesses Jesus of Nazareth's passion for human dignity, even if Nietzsche was deeply warped.

>Youth, enthusiasm, foolishness and love
Have we been reading the same Nietzsche? Nietzsche the militarist? Nietzsche the mad prophet? Nietzsche the man who contracted syphilis from his only sexual encounter and was also a misogynist? Nope.

Anonymous Sat Apr 13 15:01:33 2019 No.12929049
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>In fact, a strange connection becomes apparent between Mors and Amor, Love and Death. The moment of 'extinction' in the pleasure of love resembles that of death, and thus that of the mystic. In mythic terms, Eros and Thanatos are almost twins, for in some cases Death appears as a lovely youth, and Eros as a withered starveling

Anonymous Sat Apr 13 15:03:59 2019 No.12929055

>>12928992
You've never read a word of Hegel. You've never read a word of Adorno. You've maybe read some Nietzsche but deep down you're aware that your understanding of him is very, very poor; you read him and understand very little. You come here to shitpost and you learn nothing, ultimately wasting your time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 15:10:52 2019 No.12929080 >>12928833 Contrary, my stance has not changed and you are trying to argue semantics

Anonymous Sat Apr 13 15:14:47 2019 No.12929091

>>12928821
>I didn't know one can claim to be a something that already has a definition, and then change the meaning.
Well, welcome to human civilization, I guess? How is the meaning being changed anyway when Nietzsche's value system directly opposes everything related to Christ and is the first one of its kind to be formalized to such an unrelenting degree that it devastated Christians ever since?

>I'm dyslexic, there is no need for such hostility.
There is no need for pity either. This is a literature board and a philosophy thread, so make a better effort at proofing if you need to keep up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 15:17:18 2019 No.12929098 >>12926869 The young man thinks the old a fool, whereas the old man knows the young man to be so.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 15:18:38 2019 No.12929101 >>12926997 >>12927020 Cringe

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 15:19:30 2019 No.12929104 >>12929098 If the old man thinks he knows anything, he's a bigger fool than the young man who thinks the same thing.

Anonymous Sat Apr 13 15:52:31 2019 No.12929224

>>12929091
Anti Christ comes from Christianity it self, it would be the same as one changing the term of Brahman in Buddhism. You can do it, but it's stupid.
Like I said, he is an anti Christ but he is not the "Anti Christ".
The Protestant movement is what destroyed Christianity with it's liberal docterines.

I didn't ask for pity, I was giving you a reason for the spelling error.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 16:38:49 2019 No.12929382 >>12929224 >Like I said, he is an anti Christ but he is not the "Anti Christ". Only because you don't understand the implications of his work and how it has influenced Western civilization since the 19th century.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 16:52:16 2019 No.12929426 >>12926869 Since every single word of What you wrote is a lie, i can't answer in any way constructive nor offer an argument. I can only recomend that You hang yourself asap.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 17:22:29 2019 No.12929558 >>12929426 >Capitalizing Random Words Get On My Level, Pleb.

Anonymous Sat Apr 13 19:05:46 2019 No.12930055

>>12928840
nietzsche did sign his letters 'dionysus' and 'the crucified,' but apparently i made a mistake because i'm not sure if he ever signed as 'dionysus the crucified' - his signature at the end of ecce homo was dionysus versus/against the crucified (depending on the translation)

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 22:45:38 2019 No.12930963 >>12929080 >Zarathustra isn't the antichrist! >Well, he is, but only metaphorically! >Well maybe not, be he isn't the antichrist from the bible! pathetic

Anonymous Sat Apr 13 23:23:23 2019 No.12931128

You know funny thing about Nietzsche... he HATED people who read a philosophy as a means to an end, instead of truly living the written thing... that's why he wrote the Antichrist, because he felt the church of Christ was not about the gospel anymore. No he wasn't "Antichristianism", that's the shallowest interpretation of his work, it's like reading "God is Dead" and thinking he was being smug about it, he wasn't a child who discussed his shit unless he had truly something to say or defend. This thread is the most dreadful display of narcissism. I'm not advocating for any of you children here. Don't hijack my words for your own stupid argument, and specially don't dare to suggest that i'm being arrogant, when i say you guys are children, it doesn't imply that i'm mature, just that someone needs to rethink his actions.
Fuck this thread so much.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 00:07:52 2019 No.12931296 >>12931128 >Nietzsche >Not anti-christian wut

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 00:13:17 2019 No.12931319 >>12930963 absolute retard I have been saying the same thing from the beginning

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 01:14:11 2019 No.12931470 >>12931319 You can't think. You can't write. You know nothing about Nietzsche. Don't talk to me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 01:40:19 2019 No.12931551 >>12931470 Awe, sorry to offend your nihilist safe space.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 01:42:17 2019 No.12931557 >>12931296 Read that post again you dim wit

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 01:51:55 2019 No.12931585 >>12929382 Yikes

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 02:07:11 2019 No.12931628 >>12931551 >Nietzsche >Nihilist wew

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 02:17:28 2019 No.12931656 >>12926869 >thinking one is “superior” to the other The mark of a true brainlet.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 02:19:47 2019 No.12931665 >>12926923 >>12926957 >butterfaggot ruins another thread Where the fuck is the bugspray when you need it

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 02:21:45 2019 No.12931671 >>12927020 >God is dead >God is talked about more than ever in endless discussions on a Cambodian fishing forum Pick one

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 02:24:59 2019 No.12931682 File: 12 KB, 408x431, F60E497B-C7DE-4DDB-8DF7-555E41884438.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12927579 >CURRENT YEAR

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 02:27:00 2019 No.12931688 >>12931628 I'm not saying he's a nihilist, I'm saying YOU are.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 02:27:02 2019 No.12931689 File: 349 KB, 350x233, 1528562968207.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12931671 >>12931682 >>>/pol/

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 02:28:04 2019 No.12931691 File: 12 KB, 300x450, 1544438706221.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12931688 Christianity is nihilism.

Anonymous Sun Apr 14 02:28:06 2019 No.12931692

>>12931128
>No he wasn't "Antichristianism"
Yes he was, if you consider that no one uses the term Christian to refer to what he referred to or to what you are referring to. As far as everyone's understanding of Christianity goes, he was anti-Christian. Your assertion will be misconstrued and misunderstood if you try to assert otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 02:29:46 2019 No.12931695 >>12929091 >it devastated Christians ever since Proof?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 02:29:54 2019 No.12931697 >>12931691 Now I know you're just baiting

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE Sun Apr 14 02:30:21 2019 No.12931698 File: 594 KB, 245x136, D4EFE676-9902-41EA-8E1C-4488DAB6CD89.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12931665 >>12931682 Could you just go read something.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 02:32:06 2019 No.12931703 >>12931695 Chesterton, Tolstoy, and Girard for starters.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 02:32:11 2019 No.12931704 >>12931692 He was anti Christian in the sense of it's over reaching establishment, it's constructive hold on philosophy and morals and how it coddled and awarded it's blind followers. You are approaching his view completely wrongly

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 02:32:55 2019 No.12931707 >>12931698 Don’t @ me you fucking insect.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 02:34:25 2019 No.12931711 >>12931703 ?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 02:34:53 2019 No.12931712 >>12931703 But Nietzsche was just the person to point out the fall of Christianity and it's fall into night, past the horizon of the observer of his time. He said others where also aware of it's fall.

Anonymous Sun Apr 14 02:37:56 2019 No.12931722

>>12931704
Nonsense. You haven't read enough of his work. Nietzsche loathes the priest; Zarathustra stands against those who shame the body and who speak of a world beyond this one. He denies Plato entirely, calling the whole enterprise of metaphysics a lie of his making. He also calls the man Jesus immature — a free spirit, sure, but not the Overman.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 02:40:27 2019 No.12931728 >>12931712 >In truth, there was only one Christian, and he died on the cross. The "fall of Christianity" began when Jesus died.

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>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 02:44:10 2019 No.12931741 >>12931722 Obviously he was hyper critical of the Church and held great disdain for the Church at his time, but he did not hate all of Christianity - see his view on the Old Testament

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 02:45:13 2019 No.12931744 >>12931707 >internet tough guy Fucking sad. You're an imbecile.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 02:45:20 2019 No.12931745 >>12931697 >t. didn't read GM

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 02:46:57 2019 No.12931751 >>12931741 The Old Testament isn't the Christian one, buddy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 02:47:24 2019 No.12931753 >>12931728 You're extrapolating into suppositions that differ from Nietzsche's own claims when you say Christianity fell at the death of Christ. > The Only Christian ( Christ ) =/= His followers ( Christianity )

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 02:49:02 2019 No.12931760 >>12931751 It is and this proves you have no idea about Church history. A new religion didn't start with Christ, a religion was fulfilled and transformed by Christ. Have you even read the books for which you contend against me?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 02:51:52 2019 No.12931768 >>12931760 holy shit look at those mental gymnastics how could one be so blinded by dogma?

Anonymous Sun Apr 14 02:53:03 2019 No.12931775

>>12931753
Nietzsche doesn't view anything we know of Christianity to actually be related to Christ. He attributes everything we know to be the responsibility of St. Paul, who combined Greek and Jewish religion and used Christ's name to boost himself. Meanwhile, he psychoanalyzes Jesus in The Antichrist as a man who saw everything the world values as meaningless, and who did not believe in any afterlife at all — rather, that heaven and the escape of death was attainable here, in this life, as a condition of the heart.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 02:53:49 2019 No.12931778 >>12931768 You just claimed the Old Testament isn't a Christian book. Now you're using ad hominem attacks on me to gas light the conversation. Really epic my dude.

Anonymous Sun Apr 14 02:59:19 2019 No.12931792

>>12931775
>Nietzsche doesn't view anything we know of Christianity to actually be related to Christ.
So how does his Christianity ( that has nothing to do with Christ ) fall at Christ's death?
Also, how are we to know Christ except for the only source we know about him?

>He attributes everything we know to be the responsibility of St. Paul, who combined Greek and Jewish religion and used Christ's name to boost himself.
Which is weirdly inaccurate because we have a history of an actual Church starting with Peter, and then the remaining apostles who have a history before Paul even converted.

>Meanwhile, he psychoanalyzes Jesus in The Antichrist as a man who saw everything the world values as meaningless
Which is true in regards to the ways and traditions of man.
>and who did not believe in any afterlife at all — rather, that heaven and the escape of death was attainable here, in this life, as a condition of the heart.
This is a hot take and I see how he can arrive there. But there are instances in the Bible that are counter to this, quotes of Jesus him self.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 03:00:05 2019 No.12931798 >>12931741 I don't think you know what it is you're arguing for. There isn't a single Christian out there who knows their shit who would agree with Nietzsche if they knew his shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 03:00:51 2019 No.12931799 >>12931778 It isn't. It's a Jewish book.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 03:01:06 2019 No.12931800 >>12931798 >there isn't a single one You are talking to one right now bud

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 03:01:07 2019 No.12931801 >>12931792 So you're basically admitting here that you haven't read all that much of him. Why do you people even bother posting in Nietzsche threads? For fuck's sake, go read the man before you post. Such a waste of everyone else's time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 03:02:09 2019 No.12931803 >>12931800 And you either don't know your shit or you don't know his. Fucking read him.

Anonymous Sun Apr 14 03:03:51 2019 No.12931807

>>12931801
I have read him, I'm showing you a fallacy in your logic.

>Nietzsche doesn't view anything we know of Christianity to actually be related to Christ.
So how does his Christianity ( that has nothing to do with Christ ) fall at Christ's death?
Also, how are we to know Christ except for the only source we know about him?

Your claim here

>>12931728
How does something fall because of something, if it is unrelated to the something? Do you see your dissonance?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 03:04:49 2019 No.12931810 >>12931807 >I have read him Not that much of him, dude. Everything I wrote here >>12931792 is from The Antichrist. The answers to your questions are even addressed there. Go read that book and stop wasting my time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 03:04:53 2019 No.12931811 >>12931803 It's pretty obvious I know what I'm talking about as I have read him. I don't agree with everything he says -

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 03:05:03 2019 No.12931812 >>12926869 Isn’t it written by that bitter German LARPing as a Pole who went nutty in the head and died of syphilis? lol

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 03:05:55 2019 No.12931815 >>12931810 >In truth, there was only one Christian, and he died on the cross =/= The "fall of Christianity" began when Jesus died

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 03:06:00 2019 No.12931816 >>12931812 >who went nutty in the head Brain cancer'll do that to you.

Anonymous Sun Apr 14 03:07:27 2019 No.12931821

>>12931815
He regards what Jesus was teaching as being very different from what every "Christian" after him has taught and also superior to what they've taught. Again, stop being a little bitch, and go read The Antichrist if you truly care about this topic.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 03:09:07 2019 No.12931831 >>12931821 So how does Christianity die at Christ's death, if it's unrelated to Christ? These are your words.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 03:10:16 2019 No.12931835 >>12931831 >how does Christianity die at Christ's death By not actually passing down the values of Christ at all and instead passing down unrelated, inferior values, geared towards mob control rather than any kind of spiritual enlightenment.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 03:14:54 2019 No.12931849 >>12931698 >>12931744 Hang yourself and livestream it. See if your wings can help you fly off the noose :^)

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 03:16:16 2019 No.12931855 >>12931849 What's your fucking beef with Butterfly? She posted nothing controversial itt.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 03:19:32 2019 No.12931865 >>12931835 So Christianity is related to Christ? as a weaker wisdom of his own? Because it seems to me the ideas of Christ pass down amicably through the theologian and philosophers of the Church. Not to the general of course, but to those who look.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 03:20:11 2019 No.12931869 File: 35 KB, 600x600, F80F2F12-F6D2-4028-873E-CC8550DCB1D5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12931855 >She

Anonymous Sun Apr 14 03:21:52 2019 No.12931874

>>12931865
>as a weaker wisdom of his own?
As not wisdom of his at all. Hence why Nietzsche thought that Jesus thought of heaven and the escape of death as attainable here and that here is the only place, and why there's no good (as in well-trained) Christian who thinks that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 03:28:03 2019 No.12931896 >>12931855 Buttertranny is a thread-soiling attention whore who deserves to be exterminated. Plain and simple.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 03:28:24 2019 No.12931898 >>12931874 If it's not his wisdom at all, Where does Christianity fall from exactly? You say it fell at his death...but you also claim that it had nothing to fall from, as it was a form of "mob control" from the beginning.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 03:29:07 2019 No.12931900 >>12931898 >Where does Christianity fall from exactly? St. Paul. To Nietzsche, you aren't a Christian, you're a Paulist.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 03:30:05 2019 No.12931902 >>12931900 If it fell from St. Paul, how does the death of Christ have anything to do with it?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 03:33:28 2019 No.12931914 >>12931902 What are you even asking for clarification on at this point? Have I not explained everything to you?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 03:35:02 2019 No.12931921 >>12931914 he's retarded, what do you expect

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 03:36:36 2019 No.12931924 >>12931896 I'd way rather read her posts than yours.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 03:40:03 2019 No.12931932 >>12931914 I just see a split dichotomy going on. I see your personal views conflating with Nietzsche's in the answers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 03:40:36 2019 No.12931934 >>12931932 >I see your personal views conflating with Nietzsche's in the answers. Yeah? Which ones?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 03:43:57 2019 No.12931945 >>12931934 >>12931712 >>12931728

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 03:46:16 2019 No.12931955 >>12931945 His regarding of the teachings that St. Paul propagated as inferior to the teachings of that of "the Redeemer" aka the man Jesus is all over the book The Antichrist. It's not just my views at all.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 03:48:37 2019 No.12931957 >>12931955 so you think what I said was wrong here? Or perhaps you don't understand the context? Because the way you responded doesn't make sense. >>12931712

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 03:53:28 2019 No.12931970 >>12931957 What you said there was pointless and ultimately made no sense as a response to >>12931712

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 03:53:39 2019 No.12931972 >>12926869 learn to write before posting here

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 03:54:29 2019 No.12931977 >>12931970 meant to refer to >>12931703

Anonymous Sun Apr 14 04:02:26 2019 No.12932002 [DELETED]

>>12931970
>>12931977
That was the topic about how N was the anti Christ or not. I was saying he is one in the general sense because he cannot be the specific person in question ( the being found in Revelation ) You gave 3 writers that struggled with N and his philsophy.

With my response I was contending that he was merely acting as a vehicle of the times, and he was an observer of the destitution that befell Christianity under his observance.

You claiming Christianity fell at Christs death instead, is in complete contrast to Neitzches own statements in "The Gay Science, book 5".

Anonymous Sun Apr 14 04:05:45 2019 No.12932011

>>12931970 #
>>12931977 #
That was the topic about how N was the anti Christ or not. I was saying he is one in the general sense because he cannot be the specific person in question ( the being found in Revelation ) You gave 3 writers that struggled with N and his philsophy.

With my response I was contending that he was merely acting as a vehicle of the times, by being a commentator on the destitution that befell Christianity under his observance.

You claiming Christianity fell at Christs death instead, is in complete contrast to Nietzsche's own statements in "The Gay Science, book 5".

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE Sun Apr 14 04:13:03 2019 No.12932031 File: 242 KB, 473x600, US-Roundup-Poison-Ivy-Plus-Tough-Brush-Killer-Comfort-Wand-5203910-Main-Lrg.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12931896 You trolls are the thread stealing attention whoring bugs

Anonymous Sun Apr 14 04:16:26 2019 No.12932043

antichrist is properly translated 'replacement christ' and it is meant in both main senses
the bible uses it to describe the teachings and activities that replace God, and it is also used to refer to a specific person who pretends to be God, and is worshiped in the end days as God
a running theme is both old and new testament is the filthiness of flesh life, its temporary, painful, and meaningless nature, and a permanent reward that is found in the unmerited favor of God
it sounds like he's just trying to start an argument, and smear the bible without discussing it in particulars

Anonymous Sun Apr 14 04:17:54 2019 No.12932047

>>12932011
>You gave 3 writers that struggled with N and his philsophy.
Because you / someone asked for proof that Nietzsche's work devastated Christians.

>With my response I was contending that he was merely acting as a vehicle of the times, by being a commentator on the destitution that befell Christianity under his observance.
Okay. But what's your point here, exactly?

>You claiming Christianity fell at Christs death instead, is in complete contrast to Nietzsche's own statements in "The Gay Science, book 5".
No it isn't. I'm not talking about the death of God here and how the belief in the Christian God became impossible. I was talking about the values of Christ there. Those died when Christ died, per Nietzsche.

Anonymous Sun Apr 14 04:28:24 2019 No.12932067

>>12932047
>No it isn't. I'm not talking about the death of God here and how the belief in the Christian God became impossible. I was talking about the values of Christ there. Those died when Christ died, per Nietzsche.
Exactly. You said Christianity has nothing to do with Christ. I was talking about Christianity, hence why your response here
>>12931728
to mine here
>>12931712
Doesn't make sense.

If Christ was never the Christian God to begin with ( because he thinks Christianity is a subversion of the reality of what Christ taught ), then the death of the Christian God, is the death of Christianity.

"For the few, at least, whose eyes, whose suspicion in their eyes, is strong and sensitive enough for this spectacle, some sun seems to have set just now"

Anonymous Sun Apr 14 04:29:48 2019 No.12932072

>>12932031
I personally have never responded to you but you really are a detriment to this board. I've never thought a single post you have made was worth reading, just annoying and childish self-centeredness. Why do you use the trip whore? That being said, I think anything pushing me away from this site is a good thing.

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE Sun Apr 14 04:42:55 2019 No.12932094 >>12932072 Your copy/pasta is stale and stupid. Go read a book.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 08:22:35 2019 No.12932604 >>12932072 Don't blame her for the increase in low IQ posters on this board who can't stop responding to someone with a trip code, and with no substance in their posts to boot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 09:53:52 2019 No.12932890 What does it mean to be life denying?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 10:00:06 2019 No.12932910 >>12932890 To morally reject one or more categories of meaning in life.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 10:04:28 2019 No.12932919 >>12932910 And what are these categories? How do you know what they are?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 10:06:17 2019 No.12932930 >>12932919 >And what are these categories? There's as many of them as there are perspectives. >How do you know what they are? You observe and think about other perspectives.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 10:07:59 2019 No.12932941 >>12926869 If you're interested in actually reading Zarathustra, /lit/'s new Nietzsche book club is reading Part 1 this week. https://discord.gg/fMJFUwJ

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 10:43:07 2019 No.12933112 >>12931924 >her

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 10:46:02 2019 No.12933122 >>12932047 >how the belief in the Christian God became impossible This seems factually wrong.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 10:48:24 2019 No.12933138 File: 299 KB, 500x375, BE41F2A4-AC54-4E70-B4B0-1ABCC320BBD1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12931924 >>12932604 >her Butterfag is a man my dude

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE Sun Apr 14 10:49:29 2019 No.12933143 >>12933138 Fuck off

Anonymous Sun Apr 14 10:50:02 2019 No.12933146

>>12933122
>The meaning of our cheerfulness.—The greatest recent event—that "God is dead," that the belief in the Christian god has become unbelievable—is already beginning to cast its first shadows over Europe. For the few at least, whose eyes—the suspicion in whose eyes is strong and subtle enough for this spectacle, some sun seems to have set and some ancient and profound trust has been turned into doubt; to them our old world must appear daily more like evening, more mistrustful, stranger, "older." But in the main one may say: The event itself is far too great, too distant, too remote from the multitude's capacity for comprehension even for the tidings of it to be thought of as having arrived as yet.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 10:57:16 2019 No.12933189 >>12933143 Why do you LARP as a girl? What do you gain from it? Attention? This just seems to prove what anon was saying here >>12932072

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 10:58:37 2019 No.12933196 >>12933146 >quotes irrelevant passage containing flowery language What did he mean by this

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE Sun Apr 14 11:00:11 2019 No.12933204 >>12933189 1. YOU are derailing the thread 2. I hid my sex from anonymous: They harassed the truth out of me years ago. 3. That post is some weak ass pasta Shut up

Anonymous Sun Apr 14 11:07:13 2019 No.12933248

>>12933196
When Nietzsche asserted that the belief in the Christian god "has become unbelievable" aka became impossible, he was talking about a select few who already saw the end conclusions being drawn from the history of Western civilization, which that passage states. So it isn't irrelevant and it isn't factually wrong when you understand the context of the claim.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 11:08:45 2019 No.12933254 >>12933248 >a select few Oh I see.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 11:10:17 2019 No.12933267 >>12933204 >I hid my sex from anonymous: They harassed the truth out of me years ago. Bull. Shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 11:12:20 2019 No.12933284 File: 129 KB, 500x485, 3F30B8F1-F29A-4A3A-A40C-612923B7DC64.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >he doesn’t like reading both Nietzsche and the Bible

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 11:40:08 2019 No.12933406 >>12933204 Lmao being a girl and wanting/pretending to be a girl are two very different things

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 12:02:10 2019 No.12933523 CRINGE HAHAHAHA YIKES CRINGE JESUS RIGHT CRINGE?? RIGHT?? YIKES WHY ARE YOU GUYS HAVING A DISCUSSION ON HERE FUCKING CRIIIIIIINGE

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE Sun Apr 14 12:10:29 2019 No.12933565 >>12933267 New. Fag >>12933406 You’d rather I was a trap/tranny. Hey you can be gay, I don’t give a fuck. This is not your safe space with no women allowed. It’s completely open. Get over it or go make your own board.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 12:10:56 2019 No.12933570 >>12933560 Please get out of my board. This is warning number one (1). You don't want to know what happens at number 3

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE Sun Apr 14 12:11:44 2019 No.12933575 File: 15 KB, 150x387, 71DD0A64-8325-48AB-879D-9A8C1EC1E1EE.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12933570 My board

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 12:13:16 2019 No.12933581 File: 1.04 MB, 1280x720, Screenshot_20190327-181307.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12933575 Here goes my warning number 2

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 12:17:45 2019 No.12933606 >>12932043 >antichrist is properly translated 'replacement christ' Where do you get this from? Ancient Greek ἀντι- means "against" according to Wiktionary.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 12:41:17 2019 No.12933713 >>12933523 Based and schizopilled.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 13:40:36 2019 No.12933943 >>12933565 >You’d rather I was a trap/tranny. No, I’d rather you fuck off like the little faggot you are. >women

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 13:51:32 2019 No.12933981 >>12932094 I wrote that just for you. Now go read a book.

Anonymous Sun Apr 14 13:57:27 2019 No.12934010

>>12933565
We wish you would conform to anonymity and using a tripcode for every inane post and anouncing your gender is breaking that. The rules of this website state this pretty clearly. Your massive head has gotten to you and so you convince yourself it's about being a "woman" but if you were anonymous and only stated your gender when it applied there would be no problem. By using a tripcode that everyone recognizes it's like saying you are female with every post. In short, I fucking despise you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 16:10:11 2019 No.12934616 >>12926923 Why do you believe you'll find intelligent debate here? We're all just wasting our time here talking to other equally retarded pseuds. You do know that right?

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE Sun Apr 14 18:19:09 2019 No.12935272 File: 566 KB, 500x269, 79393F2A-0A9C-4FAC-B9E6-92312E959023.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12934010 >conform >your gender Get a safe space board of your own

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 18:33:42 2019 No.12935350 File: 85 KB, 1072x804, mantis eats butterfly.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12935272 I'm coming for you butterfly <3 You dirty bitch

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 18:56:53 2019 No.12935450 >>12935350 I’m the rape referee, don’t forget to call me

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 18:57:55 2019 No.12935454 >>12935272 Are you Brittany Venti?

Anonymous Sun Apr 14 21:29:23 2019 No.12936167
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>At first sight, of course, vice is more attractive. She is sexier, she promises to be better company than her plain sister virtue. Every novelist, and every reader too, has more fun with the villains than with the good guys. Goodness is staunch and patient, but wickedness is vivid and dynamic; we admire the first, but we thrill to the second.

« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE Sun Apr 14 22:55:44 2019 No.12936516

>>12935454
Are you at all familiar with either of us? No. Almost polar opposites. I'd fuck her, but she's not into it.
>>12936167
Who wrote this? Was it pre or post Nietzsche?

>>12934616
Yeah. Coming back, I've noticed that I'm punching down.

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>>12926907
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>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 15 00:31:15 2019 No.12936878 >>12928308 I ran to and climbed a mountain directly after writing that post, it took nine hours, fuck you

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 15 00:31:41 2019 No.12936882 >>12928242 Shit this dude really thinks ontology is a big boy word

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 15 00:47:43 2019 No.12936949 >>12927594 Eternal life is the opposite of youth. Eternal recurrence is youthful.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 15 01:53:30 2019 No.12937220 File: 418 KB, 1280x720, hisdark.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12936516 Phillip Pullman wrote that. Post Nietzsche. Good article - https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/feb/21/three-virtues-delight-liberty

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 15 01:57:29 2019 No.12937232 File: 849 KB, 4032x3024, 92864620.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12936858

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 15 01:58:32 2019 No.12937237 >>12937232 >>12936516

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