/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.12894285]

THIS is the greatest novel of all time? What a hack.

[Anonymous No.12894288]

>>12894285
Hackbad the Hailor

[Anonymous No.12894337]

>>12894285
that's...pretty bad...wow

[Anonymous No.12894345]

>>12894285
idk something about that prose is just... hot as fuck

[Anonymous No.12894349]

>>12894345
braaaaaaaaaaaaaap

[Anonymous No.12894350]

He definitely had autism

[Anonymous No.12894355]

I like the "When?" section, but that "With?" section is atrocious

[Anonymous No.12894359]

That takes skill. Every one of those nouns is a real word.

[Anonymous No.12894361]

All of the "novels" like this are worthless. Joyce, Pynchon, etc. They're books that are written to be difficult to read, to exist as "art". They're not organic literary creations, but works of pure artifice.

[Anonymous No.12894454]

Literally incomprehensible and childish writing

[Anonymous No.12894466]

>>12894359
>it takes skill to rhyme with no context

[Anonymous No.12894468]

>>12894359
>Every one of those nouns is a real word.
no they're not

[Anonymous No.12894470]

>>12894359
>using real words to say nothing takes skill

[Anonymous No.12894490]

b... but muh dubliners

[Anonymous No.12894577]

So is the meme trilogy actually just meme books that shouldn't be read?

[Anonymous No.12894583]

>>12894288

[Anonymous No.12894584]

>>12894577
Try reading a few pages of them and find out. Your natural response will likely be, "This is stupid nonsense," which is accurate.

[Anonymous No.12894589]

cool, now i don't feel so bad about the quality of my writing

[Anonymous No.12894615]

>>12894361
You're just too much of a brainlet to understand the subtle intricacies of Sinbad the Sailor and Tinbad the Tailor and Jinbad the Jailer and Whinbad the Whaler and Ninbad the Nailer and Finbad the Failer and Binbad the Bailer and Pinbad the Pailer and Minbad the Mailer and Hinbad the Hailer and Rinbad the Railer and Dinbad the Kailer and Vinbad the Quailer and Linbad the Yailer and Xinbad the Phthailer. You just stick with Dean Koontz and J.K Rowling kiddo, Joyce's genius is clearly too deep for your highway speed IQ intellect.

[Anonymous No.12894654]

>>12894285
I'M A SPIRITUAL LYRICAL MIRACLE INDIVIDUAL SPIRITAL LYRICAL MIRACLE INDIVIDUAL

[Anonymous No.12894708]

>>12894285
WTF Paulo Coelho was right after all?!

>Writers go wrong, according to Coelho, when they focus on form, not content. "Today writers want to impress other writers," he told the paper. "One of the books that caused great harm was James Joyce's Ulysses, which is pure style. There is nothing there. Stripped down, Ulysses is a twit."

[Anonymous No.12894713]

>>12894359
interior crocodile alligator
I drive a Chevrolet movie theater

[Anonymous No.12894755]

Fuck y’all. Beautiful prose beautiful moment in that work. If you didn’t get chills towards the end you have no business reading at all.

[Anonymous No.12894762]

>>12894713
Satirical political lyrical miracle whip
Just like butter, my rhymes are legit

[Anonymous No.12894775]

>>12894708
Coelho is a dumb fuck in a total different way than JJ

[Anonymous No.12894776]

>>12894755
Imagine being this deluded.

>I pooped my pants see poopty the poopjailer saw the poop and said to me yare me pantschanging poop to two too number two where be the bingbadadoodoo? pee pee poo poo

Did that give you chills?

[Anonymous No.12894788]

>>12894776
yeah actually. it's very primal and human

[Anonymous No.12894791]

>>12894755
>y’all

[Anonymous No.12894793]

>>12894755
this
>>12894776
strawman, point at a specific part of Ulysses that is like this

[Anonymous No.12894804]

>>12894468
Go ahead and point out the ones that aren't.

Protip: Phthailer is a real word.

[Anonymous No.12894805]

This thread is honestly so depressing. If you only knew the context of this page, you'd know why it's one of the goat moments in literature. But since you are too insecure to even be curious about it, you honestly don't deserve it.

[Anonymous No.12894806]

>>12894788
Do pseuds have self-awareness?

[Anonymous No.12894813]

>>12894805
What would be depressing would be your attempt to explain what you mean by that, which we'll be spared because you can't

[Anonymous No.12894818]

>>12894813
>falling for bait
maybe you didn't fall for it but I just didn't know the context of your apparently hooked response to obvious bait

[Anonymous No.12894852]

>>12894776
INELUCTABLE MODALITY OF THE VISIBLE: AT LEAST THAT IF NO MORE, thought through my eyes. Signatures of all things I am here to read, seaspawn and seawrack, the nearing tide, that rusty boot. Snotgreen, bluesilver, rust: coloured signs. Limits of the diaphane. But he adds: in bodies. Then he was aware of them bodies before of them coloured. How? By knocking his sconce against them, sure. Go easy. Bald he was and a millionaire, maestro di color che sanno. Limit of the diaphane in. Why in? Diaphane, adiaphane. If you can put your five fingers through it, it is a gate, if not a door. Shut your eyes and see.
Stephen closed his eyes to hear his boots crush crackling wrack and shells. You are walking through it howsomever. I am, a stride at a time. A very short space of time through very short times of space. Five, six: the nacheinander. Exactly: and that is the ineluctable modality of the audible. Open your eyes. No. Jesus! If I fell over a cliff that beetles o'er his base, fell through the nebeneinander ineluctably. I am getting on nicely in the dark. My ash sword hangs at my side. Tap with it: they do. My two feet in his boots are at the end of his legs, nebeneinander. Sounds solid: made by the mallet of Los Demiurgos. Am I walking into eternity along Sandymount strand? Crush, crack, crick, crick. Wild sea money. Dominie Deasy kens them a'.

How can you not see the beauty in this?

[Anonymous No.12894869]

>>12894852
Throngbagaloodoo thwimpy twhock doopdeedoo.

[Anonymous No.12894871]

>>12894285
It's like [s4s] the book

[Anonymous No.12894885]

>>12894813
I'll try, but this book is legitimately hard so I'll undoubtedly stumble. I also don't have much confidence that your question is in good faith but whatever. This page is a representation of Leopold, exhausted, churning his last few thoughts around in his head before he falls asleep. It is a bit nursery-rhyme-ish, but Sinbad the Sailor was a recurring thought in his head throughout the book and some of the other names of legitimate mythological meanings. (The roc's egg is important, too.) He has just experienced an entire odyssey's worth of weight and importance on his life in one day. He has returned to his wife Molly whose soliloquy will burst forth on the next page, rejuvenating him chaotically as a river does. It's the first time we will get her perspective which might just be the most important part of the book. Leopold is falling into the ever growing period, a large dot which represents the sudden clarity and emptiness of his mind, the void, his wife's vagina, the ocean, and the earth mother (in this case Shakti, for Joyce was well versed in Indian religion). It's not easy to describe how I felt when I finally got to this page in the book, but it was like my mind completely emptied itself and I felt a blissful exhaustion. Like being half asleep at 2 in the morning and hearing a distant train's horn while you think about nothing. I think this page and the surrounding two chapters are nothing short of amazing, and if you haven't read them but want to say they're gibberish I kinda have to discard your opinion.

[Anonymous No.12894892]

>>12894852
That's also one of my favorite pages. I have the entire thing memorized

[Anonymous No.12894910]

*ahem*
FUCK JOYCE
FUCK MODERNISM
AND FUCK STREAM OF CONCIOUSNESS

[Anonymous No.12894921]

>>12894910
nah

[Anonymous No.12894922]

>>12894885
Imagine thinking a bunch of nonsense babble is some kind of deep bullshit because you think it will make you seem intelligent and well-read.

[Anonymous No.12894941]

>>12894359
Literally doesn't matter. It would be better if they were all 'fake' words that he invented but had actual meaning to them. As it stands, you could write a simple AI that plays with language like that in much more interesting ways, if you just give a dictionary and a basic grammar to derive structures from.

[Anonymous No.12894944]

>>12894922
You're helplessly insecure, dude. I read Ulysses because I enjoy the experience of reading great works. I don't look around and wonder if people think I have a cultured mien.

[Anonymous No.12894949]

>>12894944
>I read Ulysses because I enjoy reading books that other people tell me are great
Congrats dude

[Anonymous No.12894953]

>>12894285

Isn't this segment meant to represent Stephen's thoughts as he's raging drunk and struggling to get a solid thought together? Pretty good as a representation of drunk nonsense thoughts

[Anonymous No.12894956]

>>12894949
I unironically agree with your greentext, but nice try. Gonna stop replying now because as I said before, you're just upset and arguing in bad faith.

[Anonymous No.12894957]

>>12894922
imagine thinking that a passage is bullshit just because it doesn’t immediately make sense

[Anonymous No.12894965]

But that was hilarious, that was tons of fun to read

[Anonymous No.12894988]

>>12894941
And I would gladly read that. And so would many people.

I mean, I was dancing while I read the OP for the first time, I broke out into a little bobbing motion with my head and started bending my knees on the spot.

[Anonymous No.12894994]

>>12894285
and Benito Mussolini and the Blue Meanie and Cowboy Curtis and Jambi the Genie...

[Anonymous No.12894995]

>>12894957
if anyone else other than joyce had written that bullshit, you would find it ludicrous

[Anonymous No.12895021]

The absolute state of this board that takes a piece of text out of context and calls the best work of the century shit.

I bet not one of you have read Ulysses.

[Anonymous No.12895040]

>>12894910
>FUCK STREAM OF CONCIOUSNESS
I agree

[Anonymous No.12895053]

This nigga can make reading about a kettle boiling fun

[Anonymous No.12895060]

>>12894995
no I would not have, since that author would have had the same acclaim

[Anonymous No.12895076]

[Anonymous No.12895086]

>>12894885
based comment bro
mind sharing your thoughts on Penelope as well?

Currently on the last 40 pages of my first read

[Anonymous No.12895101]

>>12895053
This is fantastic.

[Anonymous No.12895137]

Are difficult works, of any medium, problematic?

[Anonymous No.12895140]

>>12895053
>luminiferous ether

[Anonymous No.12895264]

I can't take Joyce seriously after seeing this.

[Anonymous No.12895305]

now what precisely did Joyce intend with this specific passage

[Anonymous No.12895309]

>>12894466
>>12894468
there’s a context dumbass. this is ithaca right?

[Anonymous No.12895314]

>>12894708
He’s just salty more people lusted after Bloom’s dripping vulva than they did his spiritual mumbjo jumbo. get iq checked ya god damn brownies.

[Anonymous No.12895318]

>>12894791
here we go again. you niggers need to get out of the house

[Anonymous No.12895322]

>>12894776
No, it made me laugh, which only a great piece of art can do. Post the opening section from Nausicca or the end of Penelope or the first five fucking chapters INCLUDING Bloom’s shit scene. But you wouldnt do that because you didnt read it.

[Anonymous No.12895324]

>>12894359
so is "Portable Jizz Compiler"

[Anonymous No.12895327]

>>12894949
t. genre fiction plebbit

[Anonymous No.12895328]

>>12894995
t. goal post mover

[Anonymous No.12895332]

>>12894713
based and btfopilled

[Anonymous No.12895337]

>>12895328
Nonsense babble that is being defended only because Joyce wrote it.

[Anonymous No.12895347]

>>12895053
>ignition was communicated from the faggots
>flaming faggots
umm this is NOT okay

[Anonymous No.12895351]

>>12895347
>he doesn't use pure gay energy™ to heat his water
Never gonna make it.

[Anonymous No.12895377]

>>12895337
u just a lil bitch lol

[Anonymous No.12895688]

>>12894285
to judge a, what, 800 page novel by one half-page of playful exercise seems a disservice to literature as an institution. that being said, that's probably the stupidest thing I've ever read

[Anonymous No.12895833]

>>12895347
really cuddles my cashews

[Anonymous No.12895862]

>>12894285
This has convinced me to finally read Ulysses because I do this kind of thing in my head all the time. Phrases and bits of conversations repeat in my head until they become nonsense. Looks like Joyce has put my inner dialogue on a page and it's a bit spooky.

[Anonymous No.12895954]

I often wonder what women think of Marion's whole speech in Penelope. Do they feel Joyce accurately captured the female mindset? Do you guys feel Joyce had something particular to say regarding women in the chapter?

[Anonymous No.12896043]

>>12895347
>2019
>paying for heating
>not being enough flaming of a faggot to heat your home and produce energy equivalent of a small sun

[Anonymous No.12896081]

>>12894285
I found reading that better then reading most things. I liked it and piked it and diked it. Right? Life write. Bug bite. Can't handle heat, don't mantle meat.

This is fun, you should all try it. It's stream of consciousness writing. It's supposed to be read from one sentence to the next without connected meaning. It's like free form poetry.

[Anonymous No.12896119]

>>12896081
>It's like free form poetry.
I hate this too.

[Anonymous No.12896124]

>>12894285
2deep4u. Stick to J. K. Rowling and Stephen King.

[Anonymous No.12896128]

>>12894285

[Anonymous No.12896129]

>>12894285
Hey, that's pretty funny. Is the rest of Ulysses like this? I read Dubliners a year ago and it was so dry I haven't touched Joyce since.

[Anonymous No.12896140]

>>12896129
I'm also wondering what A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man is like. If it has a good sense of humor, I may pick it up later this year.

[Anonymous No.12896157]

>>12896140
if you want more like op pic read ulysses, portrait is not fun

[Anonymous No.12896163]

>>12894708
>Brazilian
Opinion discarded.

[Anonymous No.12896173]

>>12895862
but anon... you're jimmy joyce

[Anonymous No.12896175]

>>12896157
So Ulysses is consistently funny?

[Anonymous No.12896185]

>>12894285

This is really funny

[Anonymous No.12896189]

>>12896175
>consistently funny
That's a bit subjective, but I'd say no, it's funny in some places but not most. It's almost always interesting though.

[Anonymous No.12896192]

Ulysses is a cuck fantasy by the biggest cuck himself, James Joyce. In the novel he literally leaves home for the day because he knows Blazes Boylan is coming to fuck his wife and he doesn't want to be there. There is even a scene where he seethes at the sight of him in the street. Bloom is a typical cuck and this book has little to say except that it shows an up close perpesctive of different people's thought streams. Essentially this novel is for cucks and pseuds that think it is infallible.

[Anonymous No.12896208]

>>12896173
I'm James Joyce kin

[Anonymous No.12896216]

>>12896208
do u like braps

[Anonymous No.12896241]

>>12896216
I like burps not braps, maybe it's an evolution of words like that passage. Braps and zaps and paps and sups and brups and surps and burps

[Anonymous No.12896248]

Even Carl Jung called Joyce a schizophrenic.

https://carljungdepthpsychologysite.blog/2018/08/23/carl-jung-on-james-and-lucia-joyce/

[Anonymous No.12896259]

>>12896192
Joyce was taking a snipe at the Jewish mindset, Ulysses is based

[Anonymous No.12896268]

>>12896259
wtf i love joyce now

[Anonymous No.12896452]

>>12894359
The fuck is a yailer, phtailer and kailer ?

Shitbag the stainer

[Anonymous No.12896460]

>>12895305
Joyce was actually inspired by Otto Weiniger and his take on the new, feminine, androgynous male, particularly found amongst Jews (Weiniger was an antisemitic jew)

[Anonymous No.12896470]

sneed the feeder

[Anonymous No.12896482]

>>12894285
Shinbad the Shailor.

[Anonymous No.12896492]

>>12896460
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Joyce. The humor is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical metaphysics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Joyce's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation - his personal philosophy draws heavily fromOtto Weininger literature, for instance. Lit understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realize that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Joyce truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Joyce's existencial catchphrase "spluttering fat dirty farts" which itself is a cryptic reference to Ibsen's Norwegian epic Hedda gabler I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as James Joyce's genius unfolds itself on their kindle screens. What fools... how I pity them. And yes by the way, I DO have a James Joyce tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. BRAAAAAP

[Anonymous No.12896523]

>>12896492
This is a meme, but Joyce is legit. For instance, on the very first page of Finnegans Wake is the word
>bababadalg-haraghtaka-mminarronn-
konnbronnt-onnerronnt-uonnthunnt-rovarrhoun-awnskawnto-hoohoorde-
nenthurnuk
which means a thunderclap signaling the fall of adam and eve. this word is made up of a bunch of other words
>French (tonnerre), Italian (tuono), Ancient Greek (bronte) and Japanese (kaminari)
he's a cool author. granted, i never read his works.

[Anonymous No.12896545]

>>12896523
>he's a cool author. granted, i never read his works.

/lit/ in a nutshell

[Anonymous No.12896554]

>>12896523
Nothing personnel kid, just some fun. I like Joyce.

I speak Sanskrit and Hindi, badal gharaghta is Sanskrit for the clouds are thundering. Although it should be gharajta, not gharaghta

[Anonymous No.12896580]

>>12895053
wtf I should read this after all

[Anonymous No.12896583]

Honestly though, can someone explain this passage? I've never read Joyce

[Anonymous No.12897225]

>>12896583
this guy explains it >>12894885

[Anonymous No.12897275]

>>12894708
Alchemist was shit though

[Anonymous No.12897281]

>>12896452
If you don’t know what those words are, maybe you shouldn’t be trying to read Ulysses?

Just a thought

[Anonymous No.12897458]

>>12894995
>>12895337
that doesn't make sense. if some other author penned the exact same words and published at the exact same time, it still would have become popular. why does it matter so much what name is on the cover?

[Anonymous No.12897491]

>>12896163
ad hominem

[Anonymous No.12897510]

>>12894885
God, imagine being this dude. What a fucking wanker

[Anonymous No.12897549]

>>12894359
>zo bad id gud
https://youtu.be/r9lpLm7jwQY

[Anonymous No.12897564]

>>12894804
https://youtu.be/DvqbmGLZ_1Y

[Anonymous No.12897574]

>>12894885

[Anonymous No.12897630]

>>12894359
Bitchnad the bowlailer Milkiead the milkhaler Cerealungenlied the cereal killerwhaler Hot diggity doggenlad the octopussyquiffdoggler Cheese slicinlad the sliceofconceptuallessnessnesslessbusinesslessconceptualazinernessazer Spoony the BRRRRAAAAPPPshartbailer

[Anonymous No.12897642]

>>12897574
at first I thought I was looking at a copy of S

[Anonymous No.12897699]

>>12894885
This guy gets it. I think reading Ulysses in a group was probably the best way I could experience it for the first time. The more people, the more you notice how much shit is packed into that book.

[Anonymous No.12897733]

>>12897574
i can't understand this handwriting at all

[Anonymous No.12897749]

>>12894922
>>12897510
stick to Stoner.

[Anonymous No.12897806]

>No, James, you can keep your nasty ass daughter lmao

[Anonymous No.12897811]

>>12894345
Keruouac must make you ooze buckets

[Anonymous No.12897870]

>>12894776

The Dialectic of Excremental Politics in Anon 12894776's "Pee Pee Poo Poo" Post: An Application of Intersectionality and Post-Colonial Neo-Marxist Theories To Anonian Descriptions of the Body

Forthcoming in a literary journal near you

[Anonymous No.12898784]

>>12897806

Bestkett just wanted to fart and read Dante sure

[Anonymous No.12898795]

>>12894285

[Anonymous No.12898840]

>>12898795
>íiir coats
This is why I don't read ebooks.

[Anonymous No.12898880]

>>12894285
You got ta know that school and the expected nature of knowledge at that time was perpendicular to this all dis free flowing. It's like Henry Miller not being shocking now.

[Anonymous No.12898920]

>>12895086
i'm not that anon but I love penelope. It's Joyce's all-out on woman and the way they think. It's hard corroraly is Chaucer's the Wife of Bath and other stories of that time (and all time, see THE RED PILL) that men of reading and devotion FLOCK to read because the stories either 1) truthfully portray women and 2) help the men feel better about the life they've chosen or 3) a little of both. Molly's thoughts of giving blowjobs to others, including thinking of giving one to Stephen later, are enough to incite a man's natural jealousy, but she's not full Wife of Bath or woman-to-be-hated (I.E., ROASTIE) for what she appreciates in Leopold, the fact she's still with him, and the final yes i said yes I will yes (disagreers will cite the Boylan case and would not be entirely wrong but should at the same time remember Leopold's correspondence with another girl and his jerking-off at Gerty). In short, Joyce captures woman's stream-of-consciousness, and reminds us to not be wholly worried.

[Anonymous No.12898925]

>>12896554
That's pretty interesting, thanks for sharing anon. The amount of languages Joyce knew has always impressed me. If I recall correctly, he even read the Epic of Gilgamesh in its original Sumerian at a young age

[Anonymous No.12898933]

>>12894776
probably one of the best things you have ever written

[Anonymous No.12898941]

>>12897510
>>12894922
did you know that everything is babble when you strip away the context?

[Anonymous No.12898942]

i love joice so much

[Anonymous No.12899015]

>>12897281
what an absolutely reddit tier post. try again.

[Anonymous No.12899213]

>>12894755
I was clinking in the car and drinking in the drawer and blinking at the bar and stinking at the star and minking in the mire admiring the tangy claustrophobic waft her unwashed snatch.
“Beep beep!”
Her eyeballs dragged on the floor, booing, spooling, spoiling, toiling: she looked just like my mother: not noticing the newborn fall asleep with a lit cigarette in her mouth. Contemptable vagina, Virgina? I wouldn’t think of killing a vagrant without having his clothes appraised in Dutch town just two blocks down the street. I had just doused myself in kerosine but I had left my matchbook in my patchbook, and my patchbook in my latchbook, and my latchbook in my hatchbook, and my hatchbook in my snachbook, and my snatchbook in my fletching manual all the way across the designated broken-glass and typhoid prostitute room. Drat! The Irish look white but I’m certain they’re not full-fledged humans with feelings or who are worthy of any moral consideration beyond evenly dividing their squalid plaid plunder underwear among myself and the neighborhood rioters.

[Anonymous No.12899279]

>>12894285
>Ulysses
Into the trash it goes.

[Anonymous No.12899290]

>>12894615
kek

[Anonymous No.12899299]

>>12894708
Yep, he was right

[Anonymous No.12899314]

>>12894885
lmao

[Anonymous No.12899322]

>>12894910
Based and redpilled

[Anonymous No.12899324]

>>12894988
>I mean, I was dancing while I read the OP for the first time, I broke out into a little bobbing motion with my head and started bending my knees on the spot.
You might be legitimately retarded

[Anonymous No.12899333]

>>12895021
>Ulysses
>the best work of the century
Oh no no no no no

[Anonymous No.12899359]

>>12894755
>Fuck y'all
McFucking kill yourself you stupid American.

[Anonymous No.12899363]

>>12896124
Those two are unironically better than this shite.

[Anonymous No.12899386]

>>12894288
Based and OP BTFO

[Anonymous No.12899538]

>>12894285
It's supposed to be Bloom's thoughts as he's falling asleep, and is a pretty good representation of that moment just before unconsciousness actually.

[Anonymous No.12900223]

/lit/ proving that it has the same IQ as /tv/
>the GOAT novel? I don't understand it so it must be bad! Let's all agree with each other so we can hide our laziness and insecurities

[Anonymous No.12900344]

>>12900223
Yeah dude they're too much of a brainlet to understand the subtle intricacies of Sinbad the Sailor and Tinbad the Tailor and Jinbad the Jailer and Whinbad the Whaler and Ninbad the Nailer and Finbad the Failer and Binbad the Bailer and Pinbad the Pailer and Minbad the Mailer and Hinbad the Hailer and Rinbad the Railer and Dinbad the Kailer and Vinbad the Quailer and Linbad the Yailer and Xinbad the Phthailer.

[Anonymous No.12900350]

>>12894713
these lines actually mean something when put together, unlike the OP

[Anonymous No.12900352]

>>12894885
this is neither deep nor complex, the fuck
do pseuds actually praise this shit

[Anonymous No.12900360]

>>12897574
It's not nice to make fun of schizophrenics, anon

[Anonymous No.12900436]

>>12894762
you stole that flow from kanye

[Anonymous No.12900446]

Joyce makes me hopeful that there are people out there that will read my prose which I put all heart into despite some parts of it being a stream of consciousness almost as incoherent as Joyce.

[Anonymous No.12900492]

>>12894361
get that generations of art movement books and their counter culture descendants are just long winded literary versions of memes and shitposts

[Anonymous No.12900516]

>>12900446
You don't get it. You gotta have the blessing of the critics so that the pseuds feel smart when they read you.

[Anonymous No.12900527]

>>12900446
Yeah, but it's like a Hirst or a Picasso. You gotta be a pioneer of whatever literary or artistic movement you're a part of, otherwise it'll be ignored or dismissed as derivative.

[Anonymous No.12900614]

Gonad the ball-bailer

[Anonymous No.12900629]

I didn't feel like making another thread about Ulysses so I'll ask it here.

Are there any books that are similar in style to Ulysses but minus the obscure Irish history references?
Also, the Stephen Dedalus chapters are insufferable wankery. The library chapter almost made me drop the book.

[Anonymous No.12900664]

>>12900629
under the volcano by lowry

[Anonymous No.12900686]

>>12900629
>Are there any books that are similar in style to Ulysses but minus the obscure Irish history references?

Robert Anton Wilson's "The Masks of the Illuminati" and "Schroedinger's Cat Trilogy."
"The Illuminatus" betrays Joycean influence but not as strong as the aforementioned works.
The works are full of references to occult and obscure stuff, but no so much as to detract from reading without having referential literature at hand.
"Gravity's Rainbow" fits the style, too.

[Anonymous No.12900690]

>>12894361
>They're not organic literary creations, but works of pure artifice.
I don't know how you came to the conclusion that art can be an "organic creation" (What could you possibly mean by that? Even your usage of "organic" feels artificial, constructed) but you are wrong.

[Anonymous No.12900741]

>>12900516
>>12900527
Well, it's not the main attraction of the material, but instead serves as an interlude between chapters that don't relate to it.

[Anonymous No.12900752]

In the following example of stream of consciousness from James Joyce's Ulysses, Molly seeks sleep:

a quarter after what an unearthly hour I suppose theyre just getting up in China now combing out their pigtails for the day well soon have the nuns ringing the angelus theyve nobody coming in to spoil their sleep except an odd priest or two for his night office the alarmlock next door at cockshout clattering the brains out of itself let me see if I can doze off 1 2 3 4 5 what kind of flowers are those they invented like the stars the wallpaper in Lombard street was much nicer the apron he gave me was like that something only I only wore it twice better lower this lamp and try again so that I can get up early

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Genius.

[Anonymous No.12900779]

What should I read firsr, Portrait or Dubliners?

[Anonymous No.12900877]

>>12900779
Dubliners.

[Anonymous No.12900900]

>>12899333
Checked ad based.

[Anonymous No.12900915]

>>12895053
These are the people you share a forum with...

[Anonymous No.12900971]

>>12900446

No, it's highly unlikely your work will get the Joyce pass. Please don't think your frantic stream of consciousness ramblings hold enough artistic value to have their incoherence glossed over or ecen applauded. Don't strive to be "almost as incoherent as Joyce" don't even allow that as a motivation until you've incredibly firm footing in the traditional prose form. You learn the technique first, experiment later. And i know i dont know your writing so i cant speak on whether or not you've already done this, but if you're like the majority of writers on this board, particularly Joyce fans, you probably havent.

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[Anonymous No.12902007]

>>12896081
t. wears a scarf as a fashion accessory

[Anonymous No.12902011]

This board is officially daycare for insecure /v/, /tv/, and /pol/ refugees

[Anonymous No.12902192]

>>12894577
at least infinite jest has a story

[Anonymous No.12902466]

I've had this stupid FUCKING rhyme stuck in my head ALL FUCKING DAY at work and you've done it OP. I'm going to read Ulysses and not worry about what I need to "get all of it". I can read it again later. Congratulations you fat fuck. I've finally seen enough snippets to be convinced it really is gonna blow me away.

[Anonymous No.12902475]

>>12902466
Based

[Anonymous No.12902574]

>>12902466
This picture should not exist

[Anonymous No.12902998]

You don't have to like it, but this is what peak literature looks like. unironically

[Anonymous No.12903008]

>>12896081
Ulysses isn't stream of consciousness till the last chapter, it's interior monologue
Very little of the book is the nonsensical babble of wordplay you seem to assume that Joyce writes, it's mainly the humorous, laconic thoughts of Bloom in response to his surroundings

[Anonymous No.12903022]

>>12900223
You can stop samefagging now

[Anonymous No.12903026]

>>12894359
Nouns in English are a meme

[Anonymous No.12903081]

>>12894285
This is literally just a shitpost in book form

how the fuck is this guy famous? I do this kinda shit when I'm bored are you telling me I could have been famous from it?

[Anonymous No.12903160]

>>12899359

I’m not American, I’m Texan.

[Anonymous No.12903336]

>>12899359
obsessed

[Anonymous No.12904456]

>>12894285
So fucking esoteric he had to publish a paper that explained it so people could talk about how fantastic it was... he pioneered stream-of- consciousness with it... OK fine. Point taken. But gibberish is still gibberish, even by a famous author.

[Anonymous No.12904463]

>>12897574
It's like trying to read a plate of spaghetti

[Anonymous No.12904486]

>>12903081
>>12904456
This is 700 pages into the book and attempting to convey falling asleep you intentionally retarded faggots

[Anonymous No.12904507]

>>12895053
>primal source of heat (radiant)

[Anonymous No.12904947]

>>12894285
how about this bit
>Then?

>He kissed the plump mellow yellow smellow >melons of her rump, on each plump melonous >hemisphere, in their mellow yellow furrow, with >obscure prolonged provocative >melonsmellonous osculation.

>The visible signs of postsatisfaction?

>A silent contemplation: a tentative velation: a >gradual abasement: a solicitous aversion: a >proximate erection.

>What followed this silent action?

>Somnolent invocation, less somnolent >recognition, incipient excitation, catechetical >interrogation.

>With what modifications did the narrator reply to >this interrogation?

[Anonymous No.12905088]

>>12894713
exquisite

[Anonymous No.12905095]

>>12904947
>Her antiquity in preceding and surviving succeeding tellurian generations: her nocturnal predominance: her satellitic dependence: her luminary reflection: her constancy under all her phases, rising and setting by her appointed times, waxing and waning: the forced invariability of her aspect: her indeterminate response to inaffirmative interrogation: her potency over effluent and refluent waters: her power to enamour, to mortify, to invest with beauty, to render insane, to incite to and aid delinquency: the tranquil inscrutability of her visage: the terribility of her isolated dominant resplendent propinquity: her omens of tempest and of calm: the stimulation of her light, her motion and her presence: the admonition of her craters, her arid seas, her silence: her splendour, when visible: her attraction, when invisible.

this part is a lot better

[Anonymous No.12905345]

I barely even visit /lit/ and I can tell from looking through the catalog that this place somehow became worse sometime in the past year.

[Anonymous No.12905356]

>>12894713

[Anonymous No.12905371]

>>12894654
Stfu Joji

[Anonymous No.12905379]

>>12894708
Truer words have never been spoken

[Anonymous No.12905383]

>>12894755
I think Sesame Street is more your style loser