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What is his best work? Anonymous Mon Apr 1 16:53:21 2019 No.12863402 [Reply] [Original]

What is Shakespeare's most based work?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 16:55:22 2019 No.12863417 >>12863402 manlet

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 16:56:59 2019 No.12863427 Basedlus and Bethesda

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 16:58:38 2019 No.12863437 Toreyoumyanus

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 17:01:00 2019 No.12863453 The Blaming of the Jew

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 17:02:45 2019 No.12863464 >>12863402 reminder that Dante > Shakespeare

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 17:03:24 2019 No.12863470 >>12863464 prove it

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 17:03:41 2019 No.12863471 >>12863464 Are Italian school kids forced to read dante against their will?<div class="like-perk-cnt"><img alt="" width="451" height="75" src="//s.4cdn.org/image/temp/dinosaur.gif"></div>

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 17:04:10 2019 No.12863475 the colony of bears

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 17:04:50 2019 No.12863479 Henry IV, part 1 Falstaff is the the most based character in all literature.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 17:05:52 2019 No.12863483 >>12863464 You're not wrong, but that feels like a very unfair comparison. They both accomplished wildly different things

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 17:16:29 2019 No.12863556 File: 3.56 MB, 900x3462, 1508431804332.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone got a legitimate Shakespeare chart? Not the one I've posted

Anonymous Mon Apr 1 18:42:56 2019 No.12864026

>>12863556
If you like anime, start with: Richard II, Tito Andronicus.
If you like Seinfeld, start with: The Taming of the Shrew.
If you like Friends, start with: Midsummer's Night Dream.
If you already like things like Whitman, Dostoevsky or the Greeks, start with: Julius Caesar, Hamlet, Macbeth, Otello or King Lear.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 18:44:04 2019 No.12864039 The King James Bible.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 18:45:21 2019 No.12864044 File: 952 KB, 500x685, 1551959754193.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12864026 And what if I hate every one of those?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 18:46:19 2019 No.12864046 >>12864044 Read Timon of Athens. He hated everything.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 18:48:47 2019 No.12864058 >>12864044 What kind of things do you like? Try to give me at least 5 examples.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 18:49:05 2019 No.12864060 >>12864044 That gif is so unsettling... Why doesn't his face move???

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 18:49:24 2019 No.12864063 Friendly reminder that John Fletcher was as famous as Shakespeare until the mid eighteenth century.

Anonymous Mon Apr 1 18:51:56 2019 No.12864072

>>12864058
The fact you like anime, Seinfeld, and worst of all Friends, tells me you're not qualified to opine on literary tastes. As such, Why should I tell you my preferences? The opinion generated from it will, no doubt, be very bad, and devoid of value aside from my own personal curiosity of seeing what the output is being satisfied.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 18:53:06 2019 No.12864075 >>12864060 Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 18:55:01 2019 No.12864084 >>12864072 he never said he liked those things, he said "if you like..." you absolute brainlet

Anonymous Mon Apr 1 18:57:08 2019 No.12864093

>>12864072
I do not like Friends. Therefore, I'm not into Midsummer's Night Dream. However, is very similar to Friends, and that's the reason behind their "normy" popularity.

I wanted to know your nature. You will probably enjoy Measure for Measure or any of the so called Shakesperean problem plays.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 18:57:33 2019 No.12864095 >>12864084 How would he know unless he first watched them? Why mention them as delineating archetypes on which to group people? Obviously a predilection for these is the best explanation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 19:05:16 2019 No.12864136 >>12864095 Definitely kind of smart conclusions. However, the real reason behind my examples was that I though it was more probable to appeal to USA taste and culture with them. That's to say, homeland of a lot of 4chan's users.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 19:07:26 2019 No.12864144 >>12863402 Best and based are not the same thing. Hamlet or King Lear for the former. Othello or The Merchant of Venice for the latter.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 19:08:47 2019 No.12864150 >>12864136 And what land do you come from, friend?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 19:12:43 2019 No.12864177 >>12864150 México.

Anonymous Mon Apr 1 19:33:22 2019 No.12864285

I know nobody asked for this, but recently I've had some toughts about Romeo and Juliet, and I'd like to share them... and I think it would be on topic in this thread.

Romeo and Juliet is definitely the most popular Shakespeare play. You can see this in their influence around pop culture since XVI century. So, can we say that Romeo and Juliet could be the best play to start with Shakespeare. I wouldn't recommend that.

As Romeo and Juliet is the most popular Shakespearean play, also is the most misiterpreted one. In my opinion, that play is also one of the most overrated things in media. However, I do not consider Romeo and Juliet a bad play at all. I would even call it a 10/10... but it's so overrated that our vision is already misinterpreting it. I'm talking by my own experiencie, but I think this may apply to a lot of people too... we expect great things from Romeo and Juliet, and those expectations may be betrayed by the actual reading of the play. And, by extending, we may think Shakespeare isn't that good... and that's a shame.

So, what's an actual classic by Shakespeare, that non even popularity can dismiss their greatness? I would say Hamlet. Hamlet is almost as popular as Romeo and Juliet... but the difference is that we also expect great thing from Hamlet... and Hamlet definitely deliver.

Anonymous Mon Apr 1 19:38:10 2019 No.12864306

>>12863464
don't think they're really comparable desu, but both are very enjoyable
as for OP's question I'm not sure, I've only read the most popular ones like Macbeth, R&J and Hamlet, are there any others in particular that are worth picking up? was feeling in the mood for some recently

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 19:55:51 2019 No.12864394 Henry IV Part 1

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 19:58:45 2019 No.12864408 Sonnet 130

Anonymous Mon Apr 1 20:00:45 2019 No.12864417

Things I do not like about people talking about Romeo and Juliet.

1. Romeo and Juliet is a Tragedy about two unlucky lovers.
What does even that mean? Are they really implying that Romeo and Juliet were victims of their circumstances? That's kind of simple and Melodramatic... and that's what people always like.

I think Shakespeare is great at showing us the subtle consecuences of our thoughts and our actions, and Romeo and Juliet is a great example of that (but of course, not quite as good example as his later tragedies).

2. It was the Capuletos and the Montagues (and their family fight) fault.
If you pay attention to the play, the only characters who believe this shit are the poor ones, the populate and the brainlets like Mercutio. Juliet's father even recognice Romeo at the dance, and it's obvious he likes Romeo despite being a Capuleto. In fact, Juliet's father doesn't care at all for the Capuletos.

3. Poor little Juliet
Juliet is always portrayed as an fragile beauty... but in fact she's a fuckin' shrew. She even has a scar made when she was a little girl making a tantrum. Both her mother and her father are affraid in her company.

4. Romeo did nothing wrong
"Oh, I am fortune's fool", says Romeo after killing Tybalt. Of course he is not! He decided to kill Tyobalt. Why? Because he was affraid of marriage. And he's right in being affraid... marriage is just a very bad idea perpetrated by habit. The thing is that Romeo choosed to kill and get exiled over confront Juliet... no, no even confront Juliet... he's affraid to recognice that he's not into Juliet that much. And the same happen to Juliet... she's affraid to admit herself she's not into Romeo that much.

That's to say... the play show us the catastrophic results of what people do... not for love... love makes you want to live... but what we do in the name of love: "Yeah, I definitely love him... even if I don't really know what love is"

Anonymous Mon Apr 1 20:21:58 2019 No.12864560

>>12864417
Shakespeare does something only the greatest storytellers can do, he writes about characters and makes fun of them, points out their farcical qualities, while also loving them and seeing the value in them. Yeah, Romeo and Juliet were two kids who were idiots and fell in love too quickly, but perhaps the rest of the humanity is the worse for it because they've abandoned innocent, unrelenting, completely devoted love. In our most honest moments, do we not all wish we could retain that innocent goodness and purity of youth?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 20:33:11 2019 No.12864631 >>12863402 Merry Wives of Windsor

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 21:09:55 2019 No.12864844 >>12864026 I'm not the autist who responded to you, I like the Greeks and Friends so I'll start with what you mentioned, thanks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 21:10:23 2019 No.12864848 Timon of Athens.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 21:13:20 2019 No.12864865 >>12863464 Agreed 100%.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 21:19:05 2019 No.12864900 >>12864285 So what was the undiscussed point of Romeo and Juliet? What are we overlooking? This post was long and said almost nothing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 21:19:48 2019 No.12864908 File: 21 KB, 300x304, harold-bloom_300x304.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12863464 pre-human

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 22:32:29 2019 No.12865319 >>12864560 Testing

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 22:33:14 2019 No.12865324 >>12863471 Yes and Petrarch too

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 22:40:44 2019 No.12865354 File: 488 KB, 630x1903, best of Shakespeare.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12863402 Comedy of Errors because of this one scene

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 22:47:45 2019 No.12865376 >>12864026 this is the most reddit post I've ever read.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 23:12:24 2019 No.12865501 >>12865324 What do you think about Petrarch? I've read some sonets by him in spanish and I don't really like them that much. However, maybe they work better in italian.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 23:25:29 2019 No.12865575 >>12865501 I liked Petrarch, but I've heard that there aren't very many good translations of him.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 23:55:35 2019 No.12865737 >>12864095 >if you watched something that means you liked it Do you suffer from brain damage?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 06:45:45 2019 No.12866837 File: 1.78 MB, 1999x1439, Miranda.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12863402 >ctrl f >Tem >0 results plebs

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