Qur'an Group

[Anonymous No.12855883]

Last week we started a reading group of three surahs a day. If you couldn't manage it, that's fine, it is quite a bit for the early surahs. But by all means, discuss what you have read!

You may notice that God tends to refer to Himself in the plural first-person pronoun. I see the reason for this as the same as the Jewish explanation: God is referring to Himself and His angels (who have no free will in Islam and always speak and act for God). Why do I suggest this? Because when God is speaking of Himself in a context that wouldn't involve angels, he uses the singular first-person (examples, 2:33, 86:16).

For translations of the Qur'an I suggest Arberry for secular, Pickthall for Islamic, and The Study Qur'an for extensive traditionalist commentary. I would not suggest Sahih International. Compare
91:5

Pickthall:
>And the heaven and Him who built it,
Arberry:
>By the heaven and That which built it
Sahih International:
>And [by] the sky and He
who constructed it


This is a good introduction to Islamic theology

>Any conception of a being without attributes is mere supposition. Differences in opinion in this regard are nothing in reality and the essence of each opinion is the same. Thus all worthy attributes like creativity, justice, mercy, compassion, knowledge and wisdom are validated as the personal attributes of God and precede their effect because the cause of everything precedes its effect. Consequently, it is said that even after destruction of this world the grandeur and majesty of God shall continue to exist with full grace

https://www.javedahmedghamidi.org/#!/mizan/5aa6a4315e891e8f44a45788?chapterNo=2&subChapterNo=0&subChsecNo=1&lang=en

[Anonymous No.12855897]

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[Anonymous No.12855905]

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[Anonymous No.12856063]

>>12855883
The Surahs vary so much by length, it's meaningless to say 3 per day. How about a set number of verses?

>You may notice that God tends to refer to Himself in the plural first-person pronoun. I see the reason for this as the same as the Jewish explanation: God is referring to Himself and His angels (who have no free will in Islam and always speak and act for God). Why do I suggest this? Because when God is speaking of Himself in a context that wouldn't involve angels, he uses the singular first-person (examples, 2:33, 86:16).
That makes sense. In the Bible God refers to himself in the plural, and probably means himself and his angels (eg. Genesis 1:26). I assume Muhammad picked this up from the language of his contemporaries which probably came from the Bible. From what I understand, there were Jewish and Christian communities in Mecca.

[Anonymous No.12856092]

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[Anonymous No.12856098]

يا أيها الذين آمنوا أستعينوا بالصبر والصلاة< فإن الاه مع الصابرين
>O all you who believe, seek you help in patience and prayer; surely God is with the patient.

It gets better anon brothers

[Anonymous No.12856227]

I'm more fascinated by the cultures upon which Islam has been grafted and adapted, the mountain dwellers, the perpetual nomads, princes, warlords, bandits and all that. Doubtlessly they've heard of Christianity but it did not quite stick in these areas.

[Anonymous No.12856266]

Genuinely fuck off

[Anonymous No.12856843]

>>12856063
Verses vary heavily in length between the Medina and Mecca surahs as well

>>12856098
Tfw