/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.12841019]

If you don't smoke you're never gonna make it as a writer. Daily reminder.

[Anonymous No.12841035]

>not wanting to be a bard

Writing effects no one

[Anonymous No.12841068]

Is smoking coming back in vogue

[Anonymous No.12841083]

>>12841068
It disappeared in the States due to muh health muh fitness, but it's pretty much still present in the rest of the world.

[Anonymous No.12841094]

>>12841019
Smoking doesn't make you a good writer. Not having any money because you spend too much on cigarettes makes you a good writer.

[Anonymous No.12841107]

>>12841094
A standard pack of Camels costs like 2.5 bucks in my country.

[Anonymous No.12841115]

>>12841107
So smoke more.

[Anonymous No.12841124]

If you were born after 1980 and still smoke then you are literally a fucking retard

[Anonymous No.12841126]

>>12841124
t. millennial American

[Anonymous No.12841135]

>>12841124
If you were born after 1980 and don't smoke but judge people who do then you are literally a fucking puritan American cunt.

[Anonymous No.12841140]

>>12841124
Spoken like a true dyel burgerboi

[Anonymous No.12841149]

>>12841019
I become so intense I put the lit end in my MOUTH

[Anonymous No.12841156]

>>12841126
>>12841135
Get mad. Doesn't change the fact that you're spending money to spend money. It's not bon vivant to be a fucking retard. It's not writerly to pay Phillip Morris.
It isn't puritanism to point out what a twat you are for falling for a meme.
No sympathy, no understanding, no compassion. If you smoke you're a fucking dipshit, full stop

[Anonymous No.12841161]

before you an hero, take up smoking
coffee and a cigarette, nothing like it

[Anonymous No.12841172]

>>12841156
Calm down, faggot lmao people are free to do whatever the fuck they want with their lives

[Anonymous No.12841177]

>>12841172
Calling me a faggot and then limp wristing into live and let live relativism
Hitchhike back to San Francisco cunt

[Anonymous No.12841184]

>>12841177
I'm not even in the US, you angry cunt lmao

[Anonymous No.12841230]

>>12841019
Books helped me quit smoking. I spent all the time in bed reading.
/lit/ made me spend more time on the computer and start smoking again. Now that I have a rough idea of what I'm gonna write, i'm afraid I'm gonna keep smoking. Even more when Borderlands 3 is released.
Shit.

[Anonymous No.12841252]

>>12841230
Quit in your thirties like my grandpa did and you'll be fine.

[Anonymous No.12841257]

>>12841094
Idk how are "farias" called in English (cigarettes that use tobacco leaves instead of paper, like cigars with filter) but they cost like half the price of a regular industrial pack, so I can smoke twice as much before being ruined.
Also cigars are pretty cheap if you don't care about the brand.

[Anonymous No.12841369]

>>12841257
Cigarillos? If that's what you mean, in America only actual ghetto trash smoke them. They unroll them and add weed. Cigarettes are considered pretty trashy and lower class by anybody under age 50 here, but cigarillos are indisputably for garbage poor people. People who smoke cigarillos and people who have or will go on to have multiple felony convictions are the same group.

[Anonymous No.12841441]

>>12841369
>Cigarettes are considered pretty trashy and lower class by anybody under age 50 here
America is funny.

[Anonymous No.12841449]

vaping looks cooler tho.

[Anonymous No.12841465]

>>12841449
There's nothing cooler and more kino than lighting a cigarrete, though.

[Anonymous No.12841481]

>>12841252
yeah well I was in my thirties when I quit

[Anonymous No.12841487]

>>12841441
I appreciate the aesthetic of them but being addicted to tobacco, turning your nails and teeth yellow, being irritable and miserable until you get your fix, and fucking your lungs beyond repair is all inarguably trashy
American is generally leagues behind in terms of culture but this is one thing we got right man

[Anonymous No.12841513]

>>12841487
It's only trashy because you live in America. No one outside of America sees it that way. Bad? Yes. Unhealthy? Totally. Trashy? No.

[Anonymous No.12841571]

>>12841124
t. Never looked at the evidence for himself.

[Anonymous No.12841579]

>>12841252
And my grandpa never quit and lived until 100.

[Anonymous No.12841610]

>>12841369
Those look like blunt rolls and, as I read in the Wikipedia, usually come without filter and are larger than cigarettes. Don't you have anything like the ones on the pic?

[Anonymous No.12841617]

http://www.rjgeib.com/thoughts/tobacco/tolstoy-on-tobacco.html

[Anonymous No.12841634]

>>12841617
Tobacco is the opposite of the drugs he mentioned so the point is not valid.

[Anonymous No.12841638]

>>12841513
>Trashy? No.
Yes.

[Anonymous No.12841641]

>>12841638
t. American

[Anonymous No.12841644]

>>12841638
Like I said, it's a cultural thing. Not that I expect you to understand other cultures, burger, but what I said is the truth.

[Anonymous No.12841659]

I just wanna be like Donna

[Anonymous No.12841663]

>>12841659
>Amerimutts would argue this is "trashy"

[Anonymous No.12841667]

>he's addicted to a LEAF
>a LITERAL PLANT

lmaoing at your life, pathetic

[Anonymous No.12841670]

>>12841667
Not any worse than any other addiction.

[Anonymous No.12841684]

>>12841667
Tobacco is less addictive than coffee.

[Anonymous No.12841685]

>>12841670
>what is lung cancer
>what is breathing problems
>what is heart disease
>what is rapid aging
>what is bad withdrawals
>what is smelling like shit
>what is wasting your money as a slave to a PLANT

but, it's cool, right bro? see we're edgy and not like them

[Anonymous No.12841692]

>>12841684

coffee doesn't give you lung cancer

[Anonymous No.12841694]

>>12841692
Neither does tobacco smoking.

[Anonymous No.12841698]

>>12841694

t. Philip Morris

[Anonymous No.12841717]

>>12841685
>but, it's cool, right bro? see we're edgy and not like them
All my friends smoke and they're not at all edgy. It's a normal thing outside of Burgerland. Eating burgers is just as bad as smoking, tbqh.

[Anonymous No.12841726]

>>12841717

>burgers don't give you cancer
>smoking tobacco gives you cancer

Yep, totally the same

[Anonymous No.12841727]

>>12841019
TFW get spooked by advertisment industry and become a smoker

[Anonymous No.12841732]

>>12841659
if I decide to an hero, I’m starting smoking
I’m smoking in the mornings
I’m smoking in the afternoon
I’m smoking in the evening

[Anonymous No.12841733]

>>12841694
You realize even the tobacco companies themselves admitted smoking gives you cancer as part of the 1998 settlement right?

[Anonymous No.12841743]

>>12841694

We get it, you're addicted, relax

[Anonymous No.12841744]

>>12841726
The excess of bad shit gives you cancer, m8.

[Anonymous No.12841750]

>>12841744
And what do you think tobacco is?

[Anonymous No.12841751]

>>12841726
>eating processed meats is totally healthy, bro.
Americans, everybody.

[Anonymous No.12841762]

>>12841744
>>12841751

they're both garbage idiots

[Anonymous No.12841780]

For me smoking is just a really slow and expensive way of commiting suicide. It is great if you don't have the guts to an hero and also you expent your money before dying.

[Anonymous No.12841786]

>>12841019
Meh. Alcoholism is better.

[Anonymous No.12841803]

For those whining about, "muh price," just roll your own. It's incredibly cheap and the quality and strength of the tobacco are greatly improved.

For those whining about, "muh health," reconsider your values. Life isn't made worthwhile by doddering around with arthritis and dementia in your 80s. "Hooray, I made it to 90 after doing absolutely nothing worthwhile but endless doctor's visits for the last two decades!" Seriously, our society's obsession with living longer with an ever lower standard of living is fucked.

[Anonymous No.12841816]

>tfw tobacco is the cheapest anxiety drug
>gov trying to make it illegal
Fucking jews.

[Anonymous No.12841843]

tao lin doesn't smoke
aristotle didn't smoke

[Anonymous No.12841853]

>>12841803

cancer in your 60s isn't a pleasant way to die, even from a utilitarian view

[Anonymous No.12841855]

>>12841803
As with everything else, no one gives a fuck if you die of cancer or waste money. That's just the meme you fall for and what makes you a retard.
But it's very easy to critique your pretend bon vivant life-is-more-than-health style. For example with the fact that cigarette butts are the most common form of waste worldwide, they are the most common trash found in the ocean, they are the most socially acceptable form of littering. So not only do you faggots fall for the meme, you literally fuck the world up by doing it.
Smoking isn't trashy. This is not just a class issue. Smoking is something retards fall for, and it's something that signals you out as a dipshit. There's no proving that wrong. You can like being a fucking dipshit but it doesn't make you any less of one. And that would be one thing if you big gang of dipshits weren't polluting the world with your shit.
très european duurrrr

[Anonymous No.12841917]

>>12841156
lunglet calm down

[Anonymous No.12841926]

>>12841855
>you're a retard because worldwide oceans and littering!
Reddit tier sperging right there. Commit suicide immediately.

[Anonymous No.12841933]

>>12841926
What the fuck did you just cough fucking say about me you cough little bitcough cough cough cough ack ack ack

[Anonymous No.12841934]

>>12841917
LUNGLET!
roughly .5 of /lit/ is suicidal, but don’t smoke a cigarette before the firing squad

[Anonymous No.12841961]

>>12841855
show us on the doll where the smoker touched you

[Anonymous No.12841963]

>>12841961
KEK

[Anonymous No.12841976]

>>12841019
I strongly associate smoking with skinny meth addict dropouts (that also smoke tobacco) and cancer, as that has been my exposure to it, so nah I will never smoke.

[Anonymous No.12841987]

>>12841961
lmao absolutely and irrevocably BTFO

[Anonymous No.12842009]

Sorry bud, my body is reaching perfection. Enjoy being a gay addict.

[Anonymous No.12842011]

>>12841976
>another burger has outted himself and his cultural prejudice
Okay.

[Anonymous No.12842018]

>>12842011

go back to cancerville vlad

[Anonymous No.12842021]

>>12842009
>guy who is obsssed with his body has the audacity to call others "gay"
You can't make this shit up.

[Anonymous No.12842023]

>>12842018
Already there, burger.

[Anonymous No.12842032]

>>12842009
>my body is reaching perfection
Is there anything more cringe than a vain man?

[Anonymous No.12842093]

>>12842032
Yeah an ugly man
>>12842021
>being dyel

No thanks, bud.

[Anonymous No.12842098]

>>12841019
Are nicotine pills equivalent? I don't want lung cancer.

[Anonymous No.12842110]

>>12841124
everyone that responded to you before me is either retarded or laughably edgy, cheer up

[Anonymous No.12842138]

Is regularly using an onahole /lit/?

[Anonymous No.12842832]

>>12841513
Buddy, you look and smell like shit. Have some self respect.

[Anonymous No.12842868]

>>12842832
I don't, kid. I smoke 2 cigs max a day, it's not like I'm constantly smoking.

[Anonymous No.12842870]

>>12841019
if you don't die in a gutter, you're never going to make it as a writer. daily reminder

[Anonymous No.12842948]

>81 relies
>mostly people wanting to give themselves love cancer so they can look cool.
Remember when this was literature board?

[Anonymous No.12842956]

>>12841083
Mark my words zoom zooms are gonna bring cigs back in a big way in the states

Half my friend group is addicted to nicotine as a result of vaping in high school and 3-4 have already transitioned to occasionally smoking cigs

[Anonymous No.12842994]

>>12842868
You smell homie.

[Anonymous No.12842996]

>>12841019
vices might shape how a person writes, but taking on vices in order to prop up the illusion of being a writer is sheer immaturity

>>12841135
>>12841670
>>12841684
>>12841694
>>12841717
>>12841744
>>12841751
>>12841961

The absolute cope in this thread. I say without a shred of arrogance or irony that I was 22 the last time I thought it was cool and worth it to smoke. It took me a couple years to successfully quit, but at no point after that did it feel "worth it" to smoke.

I can't fathom anyone other than a literal teenager suggesting it is a good habit to pick up, and they would only do so because they still have the teenage nihilistic feelings that characterize youth. But any adult who smokes or has smoked for a period knows how unpleasant it is and how it gets continually worse and worse. Emphysema is a terrible disease that sometimes takes thirty years to kill you, so you just spend your time wheezing and coughing every day for the rest of your life. It's difficult to sleep. Running for more than ten seconds is absolutely devastating. And don't get me started on lung cancer.

The incredible lack of wisdom in suggesting serious, deadly vices like smoking and alcoholism confirms my suspicion that more than half of /lit/ is underage.

[Anonymous No.12843008]

>>12842994
Don't call me homie you fucking nigger.

[Anonymous No.12843036]

>my Kaczynski thread gets taken down but this stays up
I like culture threads too, but golly.

[Anonymous No.12843063]

>>12842996
Maybe you should steal some of the shreds in this thread and use them to cloth your naked, flabby body.

[Anonymous No.12843064]

>>12842996
hello plebbit
> lack of wisdom in suggesting serious, deadly vices
you will only be a mediocre person at best, but you already realized that

[Anonymous No.12843069]

>>12843036
Nobody gives a shit about some schizoid murderer lmao get fucked

[Anonymous No.12843076]

>>12843063
I don't know what this means.

>>12843064
This is exactly the type of thing I'm talking about...people thinking that picking up banal and suffering-causing vices will make them more interesting people. So, so childish and so incredibly naive.

[Anonymous No.12843096]

>>12843076
>I don't know what this means.
Ok, not bad. But do you have the conviction to take it all the way?

[Anonymous No.12843098]

I support smoking as it's part of natural selection

[Anonymous No.12843106]

>>12842956
this is true... :(

[Anonymous No.12843108]

>>12843096
I recognize a pun in your original post, but only from the shape of the sentence, not from the usage of the words.

[Anonymous No.12843115]

>>12843076
>people thinking that picking up banal and suffering-causing vices will make them more interesting people
name an artist without a vice

[Anonymous No.12843122]

>>12843108
Evidently, you do. This is even pseudy. Top marks, keep it up.

[Anonymous No.12843124]

>>12841926
I lol'd

[Anonymous No.12843126]

>>12843115
Jebus

[Anonymous No.12843131]

>>12843115
That is putting the cart before the horse. The creative and intellectual pursuit might create the "need" for the vice, but to pick up a vice in the hope that it will make you more like a writer or a better thinker is absolutely absurd.

>>12843122
I don't understand your tone. Like you're replying to statements no one made.

[Anonymous No.12843137]

>>12843131
>The creative and intellectual pursuit might create the "need" for the vice, but to pick up a vice in the hope that it will make you more like a writer or a better thinker is absolutely absurd.
I agree with you, but your rejection of vice is how I know you're a pathetic troglodyte who will amount to nothing

[Anonymous No.12843141]

>>12843137

>h-ha im not addicted, I can stop if I want to!!!

this is you

[Anonymous No.12843142]

>>12842956
this is, and only is facts. I graduated at 17 and made horrible friends with people in my HS but going out with them again made me realise I was lucky.
Half of them are nicotine addicted the other half are old enough to buy cigarettes, i don't think nicotine addiction has stopped at all, in public schools this "juul meme" is real as it comes. Also being from S. Florida all the hispanics smoke straight cigarettes and skip the juul shit, I don't smoke, I dont think I ever will its just so time consuming for no reason.

[Anonymous No.12843148]

>>12843141
>I wish I were creative, but instead I'll just shitpost
this is you

[Anonymous No.12843162]

>>12843131
"Maybe you should steal some of the shreds [of irony] in this thread and use them to cloth your naked, flabby body" means "You are a fucking idiot to take any of this seriously." You're so stupid I even have to translate English into English for you.

[Anonymous No.12843163]

>>12843137
How can you possibly agree with what I said while simultaneously believing the parallel example? If you admit that the vice is typically not the force behind the creativity, how can you suggest that the lack of the vice implies a lack of creativity or intellectual productivity?

Just to put this in context, I'm a former smoker and entering my tenth year of alcoholism and my body is falling apart.

[Anonymous No.12843179]

>>12843163
>how can you suggest that the lack of the vice implies a lack of creativity or intellectual productivity?
Evidence.
>Just to put this in context, I'm a former smoker and entering my tenth year of alcoholism and my body is falling apart.
Sorry you're dying, we all are. Plebbit might care more though

[Anonymous No.12843182]

>>12841571
Okay, lad. What is the evidence?

[Anonymous No.12843183]

>>12843162
Are you angry because your post didn't get quite the attention it deserved? It is pretty clever now that I understand what the first "shreds" referred to.

[Anonymous No.12843209]

>>12843179
Let's hear the evidence. You're relying on a logical fallacy to defend a vice that, by ALMOST ALL ACCOUNTS causes tremendous suffering, and don't even have the decency to provide the evidence without arm-twisting. Let's go, man.

>so you're dying
Dying of something you did to yourself for no reason that stifled almost all creative and social pursuits for a decade is awful. If it results in a great work, that would be wonderful, but the years of suffering are hard to justify. I know I'm going to end up killing myself when I can't take it anymore.

[Anonymous No.12843223]

>no one mentioning the patrician /lit/ choice of smoking a pipe

If you don't want to fuck up your lungs pick up a pipe or small quality cigars or cigarillos like café crèmes, the longer burn time is conducive to long reading sessions rather than feverishly puffing away at cigs

[Anonymous No.12843233]

>>12843209
Everyone dies. Life is suffering. The difference is you're upset your vices distracted you; a real artist works in spite the vices. There's no arguing with you because you keep irritably reaching for fact and reason when the truth of life has always escaped you. Sorry but no one wants your wisdom

[Anonymous No.12843236]

>>12843223
But if we aren't feverishly puffing away at cigs, how will any members of the public know we're writers and give us the proper degree of status and respect?

[Anonymous No.12843243]

>>12843142
Yeah juuls aren’t really a “meme”. I graduated high school last year and if you walked into any of the schools bathrooms during class or passing period you would be literally guaranteed to walk in on a circle of kids juuling. My state raised the nic age to 21 to try and fight it but it didn’t make much of a difference for me since we lived a 20 min car drive away from a legal state. The mango pod ban is also pretty stupid since everyone I know now just vapes those high mg knock off lune pods or something equally random.

Personally I think it’s tough because who are we kidding, cigs are fucking nice. The smell and taste isn’t even that bad and I think kids start off juuling as a meme or because it’s cool or w/e and then try a cig because why not and realize they’re smooth as fuck and will get you a nice buzz going for 10x as long as a shitty juul. They also don’t make you look retarded like vaping does and in today’s hyper reality looking nice and edgy on your sinsta with a fag outweighs what they told you in the same dare class that said taking lsd ten times would make you “legally insane”.

[Anonymous No.12843248]

>>12843233
This reads like it was written by someone who's early enough in his vices that they haven't yet caused any serious suffering. I'm not talking about hangovers and headaches or mild congestion.

I just think it's a shame that young people keep clinging to these vices not because they became addicted from their parents smoking, or because they came from a society where smoking was pervasive and normal (as I'm sure the writers you're imagining did), but because they think it's a meaningful accessory.

I get the romance of intentional self-destruction, but it's not worth it IMHO.

[Anonymous No.12843265]

>>12843248
This reads like it was written by someone who was all dried up even when they were young.
And I'm definitely older than you, pathetic plebbit limpwrist.

[Anonymous No.12843268]

>>12843265
how long have you been a smoker?

[Anonymous No.12843269]

>>12843243
desu in uni this is the same shit just not as ambigous, my roommate had a vape thingy bullshit and it stuck for me but vapes taste like artifical dogshit dispenser so much so I throwup nearly everytime i hit any one of those vapes. Vapes taste so much like shit that It made me start trying parliaments....then i dropped those after trying some psychs and im happily sober now

[Anonymous No.12843280]

>>12841019
i bought a pack while fucking wasted last saturday and smoking honestly hurts my tongue now
also i drank too much and puked... i can't drink or smoke anymore wtf

[Anonymous No.12843281]

>>12843268
I've been smoking WEED for two and a half decades now faggot. 420 blaze it

[Anonymous No.12843305]

>>12843281
Lucky you: pot smokers are known for their strong literary output.

[Anonymous No.12843337]

>>12841019
I don't smoke because, for one I was raised in a christian household; for two I make only dollars a week; and for three I jog multiple times a week and it actually helps my brain sift through my creative thoughts like you wouldn't fucking believe, so obviously I need to keep my lungs strong and tarless.
If you need to smoke, it's because your body is already lacking something. Maybe you're getting too burned out over something or I don't know, you know your life better than I do.

[Anonymous No.12843348]

>>12843337
>thinking the only form of smoking and tobacco consumption is inhaling smoke into your lungs

[Anonymous No.12843380]

>>12843348
Oh hey, found you on google.

[Anonymous No.12843434]

>>12841449
zoom zoom

[Anonymous No.12843461]

Pipe smoker here, I'm laughing at all of the ciggers in this thread.

[Anonymous No.12843462]

>>12841487
that's really only if you smoke a lot. light smoking barely increases heart disease or cancer probability, can only really push you over the edge if you're already unhealthy. as long as you take care of your teeth and again don't smoke too often your teeth/mails won't go to shit.

[Anonymous No.12843467]

>>12841610
haven't seen those in burgerland, they probably have them in tobacco shops but the markup would defeat the purpose of them being cheap.

[Anonymous No.12843469]

>>12843461
thats a beautiful setup

[Anonymous No.12843475]

>>12841726
>what are nitrates
>what are absurd amounts of sugar and fat
>what are huge portion sizes that lead to obeisity
Heart disease is the biggest killer here in burgerland and while smoking can cause it, it's pretty much always in fat people

[Anonymous No.12843480]

yoo just get a juul bro fr fr haha looool niggas in here really be smelling like that stanky ass smoke damn b haha

[Anonymous No.12843488]

>>12843480
die
reductivism is cancer

[Anonymous No.12843493]

>>12843488

chill son fr

[Anonymous No.12843499]

>>12843493
>reductivism is cancer

[Anonymous No.12843503]

>>12843499

dunno what dat means

[Anonymous No.12843506]

>>12843503
how about livid?

[Anonymous No.12843509]

>>12843506
? bitch i ain't playing

[Anonymous No.12843526]

>>12842948

[Anonymous No.12843532]

>Paying to die sooner.
>Paying to get addicted.
>Paying to risk snowballing your addiction.
>Paying to turn into a coughing weakling.
>Paying to smell worse.
Hmmmmm...
Is being a complete cuck /lit/?

[Anonymous No.12843536]

>>12843532

[Anonymous No.12843644]

>>12843536
More pro-smoking lit?

[Anonymous No.12843670]

>>12843644
not on me sadly
read a lot though, went through a bad area in my life and needed to develop vices
this helps me justify it
its out there if you look, just like every other opinion

[Anonymous No.12843983]

I smoke without filters because they don't actually do anything but dilute your smoke and burn it faster

[Anonymous No.12843990]

>>12843532
>paying to test your vitality and will
now this is /lit/

[Anonymous No.12844068]

>>12841124
this, I can't believe these cunts have to go this far to make up excuses for smoking.

[Anonymous No.12844082]

>>12844068
>>12841124
what's wrong with smoking though?

[Anonymous No.12844124]

>>12842011
No, I'm a lowerclass Australian, hence the meth addicts and resulting aversion. They would offer me cigarettes when I was walking home from primary school, but most of my family were smokers so I always refused simply on the basis of the smell, coughing, and expelment of tar. Recently smoking is no longer fashionable here, but in my class and age group it very much is (I'm 19). Elders tend to consider their health, breaking the habit if able.

[Anonymous No.12844132]

>>12841068
I tried smoking because I enjoyed cigars.

I had dipped beforehand so I fucked up and didn't see if I could feel the nicotine.

I smoked 2 more that night and gave my pack to someone else.

If the stigma was gone then I'd most likely smoke again, but that was a few months ago. Haven't had any nicotine since. Overall 7/10, better than dipping.

>>12841107
I'm jealous.
>>12841124
Who cares?
>>12841161
I'll probably try smoking again just to try that.
>>12841465
Although I have no fucking clue where kino came from, I agree.
>>12841732
That's the spirit.
>>12841733
So?
>>12841853
Just die before then, simple.
>>12841933
kek
>>12842996
Smoking is cool, though.
The "cool" factor s that the people don't care about getting diseased.
Thing is, cool doesn't last forever.
>>12842956
Maybe then the stigma will be gone.
>>12843348
Dipping was meh at best for me, but I dipped Grizzly long cut wintergreen to start out with, only having smoked cigars before. Any recommendations for stuff that's actually pleasurable? Since dipping doesn't make me smell and I take good care of my teeth, I've been considering it.
>>12843475
Since smoking inhibits hunger, maybe we should just tell people to start smoking again. Unironically.
>>12843644
I'm pro-smoker even though I don't identify myself as one. Tired of all the shit they get for it.

[Anonymous No.12844189]

>>12844132
>I'm pro-smoker even though I don't identify myself as one. Tired of all the shit they get for it.
Means a lot man

[Anonymous No.12844226]

>>12844124
>>12841976
Gov't propaganda is working, I see. Australian smoking laws are hot garbage. I can't believe we're paying $40 for 20 packs of absolute bottom-tier tobacco.

[Anonymous No.12844242]

From what i've seen most people started smoking as a social thing and couldn't stop.As a 19 yo social outcast i see no reason to start smoking now(although i do smoke weed but havent tried a cig once)

[Anonymous No.12844281]

>>12841019

I smoke a pipe sometimes. Am I cool? Sometimes I smoke cigars. I enjoy sitting outside and smoking.

[Anonymous No.12844297]

>tfw picked a random brand and started smoking last year
>now smoking 10 cigarettes a day
>on the verge of accepting that my addition isn't ironic

[Anonymous No.12844355]

>>12844297
Is it a German brand?

[Anonymous No.12844367]

>>12841019
will smoking stop me from taking days or weeks off from writing at a time where I can't even be bothered to even lift up a pen?

[Anonymous No.12844421]

>>12841156
>Judging people over consumer choices

I bet you also hate vegan proselytes, but you're not that far from them. Get a grip faggot, don't define yourself through consumer behaviors

[Anonymous No.12844429]

>>12842948
When even body builders smoke tobacco then you know (((they))) have been lying to you

[Anonymous No.12844445]

>>12844297
>only 10 a day

[Anonymous No.12844463]

>>12841369
it's no wonder you got niggered by 13%.

[Anonymous No.12844472]

>>12844367
it pretty well could as it does for me.

all the anti-smokers here just have no idea. yes, of course I won't actively advise people to start smoking, since it is simply bad in so many ways and it feels immoral to shill it.
But: it's unironically the greatest pleasure I have in life (and I don't have a miserable, self-loathing life but quite a good stance actually), and if I could choose one "drug" for the rest of my life I'd choose cigarettes. just nothing comes close.

[Anonymous No.12844524]

>>12841156
imagine being this onions, enjoy your clean air mouth-breather

[Anonymous No.12844527]

>>12841156
look at this prole, financially secure and in the flush of his health. pathetic

[Anonymous No.12844558]

>muh smoking causes cancer
Smoking does not cause cancer, period.
All claims alleging carcinogenicity stem from flawed non-randomized epidemiological studies, where the participants self-select. They seldom correct for lifestyle factors (occupational hazard, exercise, diet, alcohol consumption, etc). These are also contradicted by what are now referred to as the Japanese Smoker's Paradox studies of the late 90s and early 2000s.

There is not a single experimental study to date that shows tobacco smoking inducing cancer at statistically significant rates in any healthy test animal relative to control.
Dr. Whitby is a great resource for those who do not entirely understand the above. We still rely on the same sort of studies so his books are still valid.

>The Smoking Scare Debunked
http://wispofsmoke.net/PDFs/Whitby.pdf

>Smoking is Good For You
https://www.scribd.com/document/44685607/Smoking-is-Good-for-You-William-T-


I enjoy a bowl of pipe tobacco or a handful of unfiltered self-rolled cigarettes with organic tobacco everyday. It has only improved my health and life. I am happier and have less joint pain. It inclines the mind to contemplate deep philosophical questions.

[Anonymous No.12844566]

>>12844242
>i see no reason to start smoking now
Here's at least a dozen.

[Anonymous No.12844606]

>>12841156
>>12841685
>>12841855
It is actually astonishing to me how poor the arguments against smoking are from those who vilify it. Honestly reminds me of hardcore homophobes

[Anonymous No.12844626]

>>12844606
There are very rational reasons to be opposed to homosexuality. Your comparison is therefore faulty.