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How accurate is this picture? It is in a textbook and being taught to young people at an esteemed university, after all

>> No.12812871

>>12812856
>Look at this highly arbitrary arrangement and see if you agree or disagree.
Nice try anon.

>> No.12812877

>>12812856
The later GTAs and Zootopia have more literary merit than anything above them except for hamlet which was still a low culture piece for drunk peasants

>> No.12812890

>>12812856
Gta4 was a literary masterpiece.
too bad the rest of the franchise (minus maybe San Andreas) is shit.

>> No.12812895

>>12812856
in what world is boxing considered the lowest of the low culture while NYT is high culture? I disagree with this picture.

>> No.12812899

>"Why do we classify cultures in this way? Who controls this process? Is control of making cultural categories important? Why or why not?"
Does anyone actually have a logical retort to this? And please, dont make a feelings argument.

>> No.12812901

>>12812890
The world around GTA5 and all of the little touches in it more than make up for the weak story. I got a 2 billion dollar bounty hacked on me in the online and bought literally everything before the devs took my ill begotten money so I just did that until it got old.

>> No.12812902
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>Miles Davis
>high culture

>> No.12812907

>>12812856
>Kanye a third of the way up
>GoT and NPR two thirds of the way up
It's all so tiresome.

>> No.12812908

>>12812856
I agree with this. To answer the questions on the left, culture is organized by impact, difficulty to produce, novelty, aesthetic value. "Who" controls the process is less important than what: societies will always be stratified by intelligence and everyone will be aware of this. The more intelligent will naturally seek out high culture. Control of cultural categories is important because it keeps trash from being pumped out constantly. As a society becomes more warped and backward, it will begin to produce more garbage and destroy anything worthwhile e.g. America

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>>12812908
>The more intelligent will naturally seek out high culture.

>> No.12812921

>>12812901
Yeah I prefer gta5 for the car collecting and the ability to actually swim which is absent in a lot of Rockstar games.
I own so many fucking cars.
had to quit playing because of the update with the car gladiator fights because of how now everyone was just a griefer and it also lagged my computer a lot.

>> No.12813017

>>12812856
>Game of Thornes above Fargo
>Finnegans Wake

>> No.12813026

>>12812907
They didn’t list Kanye West as ‘low culture’. That’s all you get. Be happy

:3

>> No.12813044

>>12812856
Everything from Game of Thrones down is low culture

>> No.12813045
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>finnegans wake

>> No.12813115

>>12812899
>why do we classify cultures in this way?
Becuase “High culture” expresses emotion/ideas in a more subtle and beautiful way than “low culture.” I put quotes around them becuase I believe that more often than not high culture and low culture mix together and neither is purely refined or barbaric.
>Who controls this process?
Nobody, it is a fluid process that doesn’t have a group of leaders. Good art will be recognized by good artisans and cultured men as well. Moby-Dick, for example, was one of Melville’s worst revived books by critics when it was released, over time it received the recognition it deserves becuase not only critics reserve the right to dictate the value of art
>Is control of making cultural categories important?
No, art has value regardless of the boundaries you set around it. While it is handy to know what is “high culture” and what is “low culture” neither of these distinctions are necessary. A rock has qualities of a rock regardless of your observation.

>> No.12813150

>>12812856
>Emily Dickinson being the staple "high tier" poet
>The Voice being any different than Dancing With The Stars
This whole thing is skewed so people disagree with it and claim that everything is subjective.

>> No.12813159

>>12813150
You can tell it was made by a woman by the way GTA and MMA are at the very bottom.

>> No.12813168

>>12812890
>Gta4 was a literary masterpiece

I AM UNHEPPY BECAUSE OF WAR IN HOME COUNTRY.

>> No.12813199

>>12813168
The game itself was also dogshit
>small
>clunky
>NICO MY CAUZEEN TAKE ME BOWLING
>oh look there's more brown and green over there

>> No.12813584

>>12813168
GTA4 more had themes of not being able to escape your past and/or essential nature.
Same as 5
And RDR 1 & 2

>> No.12813601

>>12813199
>not liking the aesthetic
ummm hunny... Visit NYC for a change... It'll do ya good... :////

>> No.12813676

>>12812902
>Beethoven
>high culture

>> No.12813685

>>12813601
NYC is a fucking dump dude. The only good thing about that place is times square at night on LSD.

>> No.12813709

>>12813685
>uses LSD and complains about low brow

Found the liberal degenerate

>> No.12813713

>>12813685
That sounds absolutely nightmarish.

>> No.12813719
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>>12813709
I can see why you'd make that assumption but its actually wildly incorrect. Notice that I do not like JYC.

>> No.12813747

>the top of the tower is five hundred pages of gibberish and a play written by a peasant for other peasants
what did he mean by this?

>> No.12813751

No joke, this looks like a textbook they would issue you at Prager University

>> No.12813757

>>12813751
Anon... Prager University is not a real place....

>> No.12813764

>>12813757
you act like i don't know that

>> No.12813781

>>12812856
Kanye is definitely more high culture than any Dick Wanker and the Gay BDSM Hallows.

>> No.12813800

>>12812856
>Kanye West lower than some meme tv show
Definetely not accurate, Kanye is based.

>> No.12813802

>>12813757
>would
>not realizing that use of the conditional mood in this case indicates that he's talking about a hypothetical scenario where PU is a real university

>> No.12813851

>>12812856
"high" and "low" culture don't exist.

>> No.12813856

>>12812856
>New York Times that high
I think I know who's behind this one...

>> No.12813858

>>12813851
Yes.

>> No.12813871

>>12812916
He's not wrong, but high culture need not supplant low either.

>> No.12813874

>le easy (You)s picture
back to plebbit, OP.

>> No.12813898

>>12813874
leave

>> No.12813914

>>12813045
This.

>> No.12813938

I'm certain everybody would agree that The Big Bang Theory should be in low culture.

>> No.12814834

>>12812856
>It is in a textbook and being taught to young people at an esteemed university
I know this is bait, but it seems more like a middle school or highschool textbook than a university textbook.

>> No.12814836
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>>12813719
Ey 'T this is a family rest'raunt

>> No.12814849

>>12813938
BAZINGA

>> No.12814877

>>12812856
Are young people this retarded where this is deemed educational for them?

The caption is equal in retardation to the image.

>> No.12814904
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>

>> No.12814916

>>12814877
American young people are. It's a feedback loop of stupidity. Low test scores lead to the simplification of material, the simplified material produces people incapable of thought, the material is further simplified, etc.

>> No.12814930

>>12814916
I feel that, in America at least, there is a notion that the solution to all of society's ills is for every one to go to college, no matter how pointless it is for them to be there. If this were not the case I wonder if college coursework would be less retarded.

>> No.12815017

>>12812856
>Fargo below Harry Potter and GoT
>Harry Potter, Transparent and GoT in the upper half
>GTA near the bottom

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>>12812856
Grand Theft Auto is one of the greatest satires of our time and should not be that low

>> No.12815039

>>12812856
>ultimate fighting.
Pretty sure it's actually WWE that should be there.

>> No.12815067

>>12812856
>”ultimate fighting” on the bottom

The state of plebs

>> No.12815174

>>12815039
WWE is compelling theater and also based

>> No.12815206

They should've put the Big Bang Theory on top for memes.

>> No.12815219

>>12812856
OP you're missing the point, didn't you read the caption. It literally says "highly arbitrary". It didn't even have the balls to say arbitrary it went full non-argument.

It's simply a thought experiment, nothing more. The whole point of it is to ask "WHY would society/culture arrange it this way" hypothetically, arbitrarily or otherwise. To just say, oh yeah, this should go up here, and I don't like this thing - move this down here..

You've missed the point entirely.

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>>12813856

>> No.12815729

>>12815067
>>12815039
the "ufc" is quickly becoming as cheezy and corrupt as boxing. the last great champion was lyoto machida, everyone since then has been a chump (maybe excepting mighty mouse)

>> No.12815756

>>12815729
I met a boxer trying to go pro who said that there are people who get paid to lose for sure. I almost fucked his wife who is still the most beautiful woman I've met but the dumb bitch messaged me heart emojis and i was slacking and we got busted. Never worried about the boxer because they were irish immigrants and aware that I was a gun owning american. I was told the irish were sexually unappealing but this gym bunny blonde was a knock out.

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>>12812856
>new york times

>> No.12815918

>>12812856
>"Emily Dickinson poem.
>New York Times.

Looks like some woman got a Communications B.A. or something and is making textbooks now.

>> No.12815924

If I wasn't busy procrastinating on an assignment I'd start making photoshops of this graphic.

>> No.12816317

>>12812856
>Fargo below Harry Potter and GoT
What a weird choice of movie to put there, that's generally regarded as a masterpiece of American cinema.

>> No.12816380

>>12816317
it's because one is movies and the others are books fuckhead.
do you really not see how this shit? it's pretty intuitive in it's autist-logic.

>> No.12816546

>>12816380
Are you retarded?

>> No.12816551

>>12816546
no i don't think so.
Maybe i'm actually a genius, but it seems painfully obvious how someone could come up with a chart like this.
It's retarded, but it's normie-think. Sorry you're an autist and can't choose to engage with things like that.

>> No.12816598

La Traviata >>>>>> Aida

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixbrot9hq5U

>> No.12816623

>>12816598
Senpai, the chick who made the picture just listed the shit she knows about.

>> No.12816643

>>12813713
you just gotta dodge the shivs and leering bodies that jump from the bushes to grab you and pull you in.

>> No.12816652

>>12813045
based

>> No.12816663

>>12813871
he's completely wrong, that sounds like something a 19th century aristocrat would say while making his way to the opera as he pushes a child beggar back into the gutter with his cane.

>> No.12817008

>>12812856
>using pop culture references in instructive literature that has too last atleast a couple of years.
I shiggy diggidy.

>> No.12817023

>>12816663
>a 19th century aristocrat making his way to the opera as he pushes a child beggar back into the gutter with his cane
wow based

>> No.12817059

>>12813044
more like everything created in the last 150 years

>> No.12817063

>>12816663
you only are making him sound even more right, anon

>> No.12818000
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>>12812856
'Twas always thus, my dear anon. There is nothing new in the world. New generations are just copying old shit and claiming it as a "new" discovery.
>i.e. same shit, different day

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>>12818000

>> No.12818020
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>>12818008

>> No.12818027
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>>12818020

>> No.12818035
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>>12818027
I am not a listener of NPR, but I will post this just to "rustle the jimmies" of those with hair triggers.

>> No.12818044
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>>12818035
This one, just because "Alabama".

>> No.12818058

>>12818035
nice bait and nice detail that PBR is both at the top and the bottom but not at the middle

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>>12818058
I try to use superior, fresh bait at all times.
PBR has it's ups and downs in different crowds. Just like 4chinz, "it used to be good". I liked it way back inna day, because it was cheap and out of favor with beer snobs.

>> No.12818230

>>12812856
Kanye West should be higher, Yeezus is an avant-garde masterpiece of sorts and MBDTF is an interesting character study