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12792271 No.12792271 [Reply] [Original]

who kill they dad?

>> No.12792277

The incel

>> No.12792282

>>12792271
Smerdiakov obviously, but Ivan also has a moral responsibility, as he aptly understood himself.

>> No.12792285

>>12792277
who?

>> No.12792295

Why do so many people ask this question when Smerdyakov outright admits to it in his conversation with Ivan?

>> No.12792337

the /r9k/ poster

>> No.12792347

The Virginal Male

>> No.12792385

>>12792295
There’s a pretty persistent theory that Dmitri did it and Smerdyakov was just fucking with Ivan in an attempt to dismantle the family.

-Destroy Ivan’s mind and credibility by claiming responsibility for the murder
-Dmitri’s already fucked
-Dad is dead
-He has no grudge against Alyosha

>> No.12792665
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12792665

>> No.12792741

>>12792271
>>12792337
this guy

>> No.12792749

>>12792385
I hate this as it really fucks Dmitri's character up for the entire 4th book.

>> No.12792918

>>12792271
Smerdyakov

>> No.12793220

All points lean to Smerd but there is a small implication it could've been Dmitri. You'd really have to believe though that Smerdy had enough spite in his heart to ruin the Karamazov family. Of course, that slightly may be true, being bred from a base alcoholic and a retard, living life as a consumptive, weak, unintellectual cook for said man

That vagueness is important because although I believe Smerd killed him, it makes Dmitri's guilt a powerful tool for displaying the consequences of being base/immoral.

>> No.12793352
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12793352

>tfw you realize Smerdyakov is the 4th brother

>> No.12794609

>>12792271
The real answer is God, actually.

>> No.12794624

>>12792271
Smerdyakov Dimitry is too proud not to admit the murder

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12795148

Gotta keep philosophy away from the proles. They might not get the joke.

>> No.12795361

My bet it was Grushenka

>> No.12795690

That kid who threw rocks at Aljosha. He really seemed to have it in for the Karamazovs, for some unexplained reason.

>> No.12795846

>>12795690
He was actually fond of alyosha but hid it under jealousy and contempt. By the end, he loves him

>> No.12797152

>>12793220
It doesn't have to be spite, Ivan's nihilistic influence that everything is permitted can lead smerdy to do it "just because money" and have no real emotional sentiment involved. He spoke with that girl about how he wanted money to go to France or whatever and leave everything behind.

>> No.12797158

Its irrelevant

>> No.12797175

He made it painfully obvious. I can't believe I read the same book as you guys