Eco-Fascism Thread

[Anonymous No.12787758]

Post book recommendations for starters

[Anonymous No.12787765]

go out into the woods and blow your brains out
your body will eventually turn to humus, providing nutrients for your plant brethren

[Anonymous No.12787794]

>>12787765
fpbp

[Anonymous No.12787797]

Ahh, I know how to save the ecosystem, a giant human machine!
*shits pants*

[Anonymous No.12787827]

The Art of Being Ruled

>but there's nothing about ecology in that book

read it under a tree

[Anonymous No.12787855]

>>12787765
>>12787794
cringe

[Anonymous No.12788007]

Just post book recommendations pls

[Anonymous No.12788047]

>>12788007

[Anonymous No.12788051]

>>12788047
Thanks

[Anonymous No.12788137]

The Great Replacement by Brenton Tarrant

[Anonymous No.12788173]

Will the term "ecofascism" become widespread and then be twisted by the normies, like "incel"?

[Anonymous No.12788181]

>>12788173
Ecofascism was made to meme environmental regulations in the first place. Calling yourself an ecofascist is doing what oil companies want.

[Anonymous No.12788205]

incel tier political system

[Anonymous No.12788244]

>>12788047

[Anonymous No.12788248]

>>12788244

[Anonymous No.12788254]

>>12788248

[Anonymous No.12788258]

>>12787758
Has Linkola commented on the shooting yet?

[Anonymous No.12788344]

>>12787758
Jews hate nature

[Anonymous No.12788409]

Stop pretending to care about things

[Anonymous No.12788458]

[Anonymous No.12788545]

>>12788205
It's quite possibly the best way to fix the environment
But I'm sure you'll vote the right guy in next time huh

[Anonymous No.12788565]

>>12788181
But I literally am a fascist + enviornmentalist. What else would I call myself?

[Anonymous No.12788574]

>>12788565
a moron desu

[Anonymous No.12788601]

>>12788574
Fuck you, fuck niggers, and save the bees

[Anonymous No.12788633]

>>12788545
fuck the environment

[Anonymous No.12788723]

>>12787758
How is eco fascism any different than the green new deal? Is the aussie in cahoots with AOC?

[Anonymous No.12788734]

fascism is for faggots
kill yourself asap

[Anonymous No.12788926]

>>12788047
Did any of you read Darre or is this all just a meme.

Hipsters are ruining my enjoyment of reading advanced nazi literature.

[Anonymous No.12789176]

Read this:
https://c4ss.org/content/50888?fbclid=IwAR0sPWdD4qvOrqPCK89USQoJu4OdrcZpm_66HlfXywXuUiRfXIK4PyjCICg

[Anonymous No.12789179]

>>12788633
Fuck you and humans

[Anonymous No.12789180]

>>12789176
Ecocide is an illusion. The plants have already beaten technology evolution wise. Humanism is behind though.

[Anonymous No.12789184]

Gravity's Rainbow

[Anonymous No.12789208]

>>12788723
Green new deal is bullshit globalist measures desigend to siphon off more power to the UN and wasteful socialist bullshit, with forceful displacement of people from the cs to large controlled megacties.

Ecofascism is killing non-whites and promoting decentralization and rural self sufficiency, thereby reducing need on long supply lines, mass agriculture and unsustainable pesticide use, as well as overal rejecting overly materialistic consumption patterns.

Do it for the bees anon

[Anonymous No.12789210]

>>12789208
wow it's like im really on pol

[Anonymous No.12789218]

>>12789210
If you want literature go ans read paris agreement and un agenda 2030 and see what hell awaits you.

[Anonymous No.12789234]

>>12789218
do you have any actual issues against them or are you just polposting?

[Anonymous No.12789327]

>>12789234
So you havent read them. Got it.

Issues:
Annual 100 billion climate tax on usa and eu to pay 3rd world
UN control on national co2 output, controlling industry and economies
UN control on "climate refugees", with forced quotas on the US and EU
UN control on who has acces to airplane transportation
Forced shutdown of coal plants and other undesirable industries in US and EU, cart blanche for China and India until 2030-2040.

Now go read nigger.

[Anonymous No.12789334]

>>12789327
Seems fine to me dude, we need to stop polluting with impunity

[Anonymous No.12789417]

>>12789334
I know right. Fuck racists not wanting to pay 100 billion a year and break their economies so a global goverment can arise from their ruins.

[Anonymous No.12789422]

>>12789417
Im pretty sure if the economy depends on the planet becoming a dead husk by 100 years then it's broken ;)

[Anonymous No.12789718]

>>12788565
a fascist.
in my experience you retards don't actually take environmentalism into account when forming your retarded aesthetics based, propaganda fueled political beliefs. You just happen to tack on a "i'm an environmentalist too" afterwards and somehow conclude that it's X race who should be genocided for ecological reasons

[Anonymous No.12789741]

>>12788633
This is the kind of thinking that will inevitably lead to our destruction.

[Anonymous No.12789749]

>>12789741
That's exactly what needs to happen to preserve the environment though.

[Anonymous No.12789765]

>>12787758
Stop wanting to join "movements" only because you think the name is cool

[Anonymous No.12789768]

>>12789422
Yeah thats why its a good idea to give africa 100 billion annually instead of developing thorium reactors for clean energy, or develop better agricultural practices.

Please note the whole bullshit is focused only on centralizing power and reducing co2 while destroying the west.
Also please note you are retarded and must kill/sterilize yourself.

More Co2 wont end the planet you fucking retard

[Anonymous No.12789794]

>>12788545
>dude we can plant more trees at the expense of human misery

no

[Anonymous No.12790495]

Here’s my thoughts on the climate change, nature vs culture and so on.

Number one: In regards to the OP, eco-fascism, as with any other form of fascism, is pure aesthetics and only useful for LARP’ing. (No, killing all non-whites won’t stop climate change).

Number two: Climate change is more or less a sham. Humans have always been changing the
environment around them, which has been a catastrophe for all the plant- and animal life surrounding humans, both primitive and civilised.
The best example of this, would of course be the old world, Europe. I live in Denmark, which might be the biggest climate disaster in the world. Not a single old-growth forest remains and the bio-diversity is a joke. Yet when it comes to climate change, our attention is always diverted as far away as possible, whether it’s deforestation in the amazon, or the all-consuming apocalyptic climate disaster that’s been looming in the distance since at least the 80’s. Meanwhile, Denmark is praised for its rolling green hills, long stretches of grassland, fields and heath, (all of them man-made).

[Anonymous No.12790504]

>>12790495
Number three: Our current climate philosophy is a conservative one,
And in the case of climate, conservatism is by default a losing ideology. All living things, like us, want to prosper, thrive and spread. If our only goal is to conserve nature, as we humans view it, it won’t have long to go. Our ideology needs to be revolutionary, if nature can’t prosper by itself in the age of humans, we need to help it. Our minds have evolved to be quicker than natural evolution, so that leaves us with two options: Slow down, or bring nature up to speed.

Number four: How to stop climate change sorta,
First step is of course to smash the state, which is conservative by default. True change always comes from the bottom and up, and the climate won’t have time to wait for politicians. Mass-production and capitalism, (a highly in-efficient and anti-ecological system), can only be maintained through the state. I’ll take Denmark and its meat industry as an example. It has always made good sense to keep livestock in the colder regions of the world, keeping live animals was a sure way of getting food through the winter. But eating meat was always either a luxury or a necessity, today it is neither. When you look at the numbers, livestock-farming is way more inefficient than simply farming crops. Denmark is a huge exporter of meat, but its agriculture is billions of danish crowns in debt. That’s why the state and the EU is funnelling money into inefficient agri-cultural practices, to keep the export going and the capitalist system of producing more than needed running.
Other examples include: States funding the automobile industry by building roads and bridges using taxpayer money, along with other infrastructure such as airports, harbours and so on…
Distributing land rights to already wealthy corporations and people, (in Denmark, the state even gave Denmarks only oil reserves to Mærsk, a multi-billion dollar company :)
Preventing decentralisation and a peer-to-peer production economy through copyright and intellectual property laws.

[Anonymous No.12790524]

>>12788205
Aren't trannies basically genetic incels?

[Anonymous No.12790532]

>>12788633
People in the oil industry used to commit to dumping a barrel of oil into a stream for every direct action committed by radical environmentalist groups.

[Anonymous No.12790533]

>>12789718
I don't believe in genocide and I would like to believe that most other serious fascists don't either.

[Anonymous No.12790589]

>>12790533
But it makes sense if you follow it to its natural conclusion. Or at least that nature will do the job for us and that's a good thing. What's wrong with that?

[Anonymous No.12790953]

>>12790495
>>12790504
ty for these brief but thoughtful posts

[Anonymous No.12791010]

I am reading Linkola's "Can Life Prevail" right now and while it's really comfy to listen to him talk about old life in Finland and all the types of animals, it feels like it lacks the depth that Ted has. I'll definitely finish it because I like his writing style, but it is a lot different than I expected it to be. The fact that it is divided up into small essays is also unexpected.
I'd like to read about religion and ecology so if any anons have any books about that let me know.

[Anonymous No.12791360]

>>12791010
Linkola isn't a deep writer desu but he's really fun/"fun" to read. He's not a great thinker and doesn't really even try to be, most of his writings have been originally published in various magazines and such. This is also the reason why his books are collections of essays. What I really like about him is that he is just an admirer of beauty at heart and most of his resentment towards the modern way of life seems to come from its ugliness.

I just ordered a new Linkola today (Unelmat paremmasta maailmasta), can't wait to read.

[Anonymous No.12791377]

>>12791360
Are you Finnish? It is really unfortunate that so little of his work is available in English. I tried looking up him on YouTube but most interviews aren't translated.

[Anonymous No.12791436]

>>12791377
Yeah, I'm Finnish. The rest of his work will be probably "more of the same" tier except for his very early stuff when he was a pacifist. Still good though, he's a great writer and apparently it shows through the translations too. The publisher of the English edition of Can Life Prevail seems super niche but maybe they will translate another work some day.

Also I find it amusing that the English cover is as edgy as it is considering the Finnish edition looks like this

[Anonymous No.12791444]

>>12787765
THAT'S WHERE HUMMUS COMES FROM?

[Anonymous No.12791456]

>>12789417
>>12789327
>>12789208
>tfw this made a lot of sense and now I'm questioning my beliefs

They really are trying to use the slow death of Western nations as an excuse to create a "post-national" oligarchy oh my fucking god those crafty jew fucks

It's literally WORSE than heidegger et al. predicted

[Anonymous No.12791966]

Is anyone here familiar with Fukuoka-style natural farming? I was reading a lot about it and it seems very interesting. Where do you lads reckon would be the best place in America for farming, somewhere where Monsanto and the like haven't destroyed the soil or run all small farmers out of business?

[Anonymous No.12792050]

>>12791456
Dude don't base your life off /lit/ posts.

[Anonymous No.12792071]

>>12792050
>it was posted on /lit/ therefore it's wrong

[Anonymous No.12792113]

[Anonymous No.12792116]

>>12791436
Arktos always has atrocious covers. I hope if more Linkola gets translated and published it's by someone else

[Anonymous No.12792117]

>>12792071
pretty sound heuristic desu

[Anonymous No.12792126]

>>12792113
Source?

[Anonymous No.12792129]

>>12792126
Gravity's Rainbow

[Anonymous No.12792151]

[Anonymous No.12792157]

do you know who jonas salk was?
he was the jewish scientist that cured polio. he created the march of dimes to raise millions to fund his research.
polio was a crippling and deadly disease putting children all over the world into a wheelchair or an early grave. the vaccine for polio was one of the greatest medical achievements of the last century. its a globally essential medicine.
and this guy jonas salk?
he could have made billions from it. he could have patented it and made actual billions of dollars.
you know what he did? he waived the patent. he gave up billions just to make sure as many people who could be helped got the help they needed. he became a celeb after that even though he hated it. truly a great man and he left the world a better place than he came into it.

If I had a choice between polio existing in the USA/world and jews. I would choose polio every single time and twice on sundays. I would infect myself with polio and tour america spreading the disease in a custom built wheelchair or crutches if it meant all the jews and their influence were excised from my country like the cancer they are.
polio is nothing compared to the harmful effects of jews on the USA and world.I would give anything to live in a world where our biggest problem was building access ramps and compliance with the civil disabilities act.

that sounds like hyperbole. it is not. 100% authentic feelings. I cant sleep at night anymore. I wish I never started questioning things. I wish I was still a dumb rube out there able to laugh at things instead of a woke misanthrope. I envy the dumb.

[Anonymous No.12792177]

[Anonymous No.12792183]

>>12792157
>a jew gave up money to help people

Fuck

How do we get this strain of Jews back? Were they eliminated by the Foxman types? Were they somehow related to polio? Did Salk inadvertently delete benign Jews from the Ashkenazi gene pool by destroying polio?

[Anonymous No.12792191]

>>12792177
good stuff in there mixed with wingnut shit

[Anonymous No.12792254]

>>12788734
there is absolutely nothing wrong with being a fascist. fascism is the only way to avoid total assimilation into the managerial liberalism globohomo leviathan ZOG machine. You can't have difference without hierarchy. the machine tolerates no divergence from its party line, you can't even study greek and roman classics without having to write disclaimers about your white privilege and Plato being racist and fatphobic and whatnot. All values rejected as arbitrary and oppressive constructs, because only the victimhood of the weak is real. And what is left? a world of mindless consumers and slaves, kept in line by fear of the nazi boogeyman, no opinions of their own. A society is only as strong as its weakest members, if we let neurotic trannies dictate our social norms its game over for western civilisation, these people want to drag us down to their level and i just wont have that. The best argument for fascism is just taking a look at the people who call themselves antifascists. If these are the freaks who are vocally against 'fascism' then 'fascism' can't be all that bad, can it?

[Anonymous No.12792272]

>>12792151
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and ask, why should I read this guy? Democracy and any movement that aligns itself with the people seems to be the reason why consumption reached such abhorrent levels. I can hardly see any derivative of political liberalism, even if ecologically minded, as solving the problems which have alienated the world in the first place. I disagree with democracy for other spiritual reasons as well, but I won't bring that up here.

[Anonymous No.12792339]

>>12788181
>>12788565
It was coined as a pejorative to try to stop right wing people from influencing green parties and groups, and some conservative deep ecologists went with it

[Anonymous No.12792349]

>>12792151
In practice, any wester leftist will end up a secular slave morality theocracy of the managerial class and for the managerial class. Why is it that the shrillest and most snivelling control freak leftists always end up on top? when power, all in the name of progress, is taken away from traditional local structures such as family and religion a and successively granted to academics, bureaucrats and finally to extremely online trannies you end up in a secular theocracy of guilt and total social control and surveillance. at least you could rebel against older forms of local authority, but those bureaucrats and guiltmongers will follow you to the end of the earth , they always know what's best for you, making sure you dont say or do anything that could even be construed as not being enthusiastically progressive enough. The establishment is pushing transgenderism so intently, precisely because it functions as a means to consolidate totalitarian bureaucratic power, trashing free speech, freedom of association and eventually freedom of thought and belief, sucks that your mental illness is being used as a pawn by the elite, that your particular demographic was chosen by the left as the one to sit at the center of its shiny panopticon but that's just how it goes. as far as i am concerned, we are enemies. Its no longer a question of left vs right, but one of pitting the financial, corporate, military academic governmental hegemony versus its enemies, those who refuse assimilation into the machine.

[Anonymous No.12792429]

>>12792126
Vineland

[Anonymous No.12792430]

>>12790533
anyhow, point still stands that fascism doesn't offer any theory or new insights about environmentalism and has no serious course of action.

[Anonymous No.12792450]

>>12787758
Ecofascism is a contradiction within a contradiction.

[Anonymous No.12792492]

>>12792430
Why are the teachings of Charles Manson so malligned by the media and the establishment? what are they so afraid of? Manson's ATWA is the clearest blueprint for radical ecological action out there. fascism, nazi and satanic imagery is about appropriating fear symbols, you gotta take the biggest fear symbol there is because your fear is your power and my power is your control. Ted K, James Mason, Linkola, Dugin, Devi, Serrano, Jim Jones, David Myatt (O9A) all serious ecofascist theorists proposing far more practical and spiritual solutions than anyone out on the left
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-OSU9ZMRSM

[Anonymous No.12792520]

>>12792430
>no serious course of action.

"obliterate consumer capitalism," "drastically reduce human populations," and "prevent capitalist and neoliberal ochlocracies from saturating the globe with teeming hordes of pill-popping, junk food-addicted, conspicuously consuming niggers and chinks" seem like pretty concrete courses of action to me

[Anonymous No.12792530]

>>12792492
Ted K is not an eco-fascist. He is quotes Jefferson and the American founding fathers heavily; his entire purpose for resenting technology is that it diminishes individual freedom. Also, I don't understand how you say they provide "spiritual" solutions. Ted purposefully avoids any metaphysical topics in his manifesto and takes no stance on it. Linkola on the other hand is even worse and is an outright atheist.
You don't understand these authors and are just trying to put anyone under a category if they have vaguely similar principles.

[Anonymous No.12792545]

>>12792520
Medice, cura te ipsum

[Anonymous No.12792550]

[Anonymous No.12792551]

>>12790495
>>12790504
mostly agree, but I think bottom-up change and smashing the state, is ideal to the point of idealistic.
Only pragmatic answer is a full blown communist world government désú

[Anonymous No.12792554]

>>12792545
did you just want to use 101 latin or do you have a more specific point about how the internal logic of what i'm saying applies to me as well?

[Anonymous No.12792555]

>>12792430

>The ONA promotes the idea that human history can be divided into a series of Aeons, each of which contain a corresponding human civilization. It expresses the view that the current Aeonic civilization is that of the Western, but claims that the evolution of this society is threatened by the "Magian/Nazarene" influence of Judeo-Christian religion, which the Order seeks to combat in order to establish a militaristic new social order, termed the "Imperium". According to Order teachings, this is necessary in order for a Galactic civilization to form, in which "Aryan" society will colonise the Milky Way. It advocates a spiritual path in which the practitioner is required to break societal taboos by isolating themselves from society, committing crimes, embracing political extremism and violence, and carrying out an act of human sacrifice. ONA members practice magick, believing that they are able to do so through channeling energies into our own "causal" realm from an "acausal" realm where the laws of physics do not apply, with such magical actions designed to aid in the ultimate establishment of the Imperium.


>The O9A believes civilisation must be undermined and destroyed from within, so adherents are encouraged to be as grubby and horrible as they like – committing crimes, random acts of violence, sexual assaults, and even the “culling” of human victims.

>The three volumes of The Black Book of Satan are considered so extreme that they are kept is a special section of the British Library and not available to the general public. There is repeated talk of “culling”, committing acts of violence and destabilisation and even terrorism. In the The Dreccian Way, an O9A training manual written by leader Richard Moult, followers are encouraged not just to commit crime, but to “spread it, encourage it, incite it, support it”.

>O9A literature regularly advocates ritualised rape, random attacks on innocent victims and “human culling”. The Black Book of Satan volume 3 describes how the Spring Equinox should be celebrated by a human sacrifice of somebody who volunteers for the role by their bad deeds, which, it suggests, could be “a Nazarene, such as an interfering investigative journalist.”
“Culling is natural and necessary,” wrote Moult in The Dreccian Way. “To cull humans is to be the ONA. To cull – according to our guildlines and tests – is what makes us ONA.”

Members, who can be fairly described as accelerationists, believe that violence, depravity and degeneracy are the only sure way to establish order in their dystopian and apocalyptic vision of the world.”

[Anonymous No.12792578]

>>12792554
see >>12787765

[Anonymous No.12792593]

>>12792578
transgender people are an objectively greater threat to humanity than ecofascists. if trannies are so good then why aren't we allowed to criticise them?

[Anonymous No.12792608]

>>12792593
transgender people aren't advocating genocide
i don't see how you could pose much greater a threat to humanity if you are calling for the violent elimination of--most of humanity

[Anonymous No.12792612]

>>12792578
that's disappointing, i actually wanted to talk about the tension between well-reasoned action vs. immediate praxis in emergency situations with existential stakes, like conservationism

>>12792608
most of humanity is subhuman

[Anonymous No.12792628]

>>12792608
its more merciful to kill a human than allowing that same human to fall under the influence of the capitalist machine, to the aforementioned human to grow fat, to be confused and perverted into a gross tranny by the propaganda of the leftists. that is why my friends, we must choose fascism and why we must uphold the noble truths of the ecogfascist idea. honor power and brutality, we must worship and honor the revolutionary legacy of the manson family.

[Anonymous No.12792639]

>>12792612
you don't care about the environment, or anything
i doubt you know the first thing about ecology, let alone something as delicate and difficult as conscientious land management
or even waste management
do you know how your city's sewage system works?
you're a fucking nihilist punk faggot
and a lost soul
but still mostly trash

[Anonymous No.12792649]

>>12792639
woah you must be such a caring and empathetic person so concerned about the plight of those poor, poor, blue hair 'marginalised folx'.

[Anonymous No.12792664]

>>12792639
i'm the opposite of a nihilist, i have specific values i am willing to defend a priori

you are the one whose soul has been so rotted by neoliberal complacency that you think the "default" state of humanity is to live in megacities and continue multiplying hedonistic retards while whole species are being holocausted out of existence every day. your indecisiveness is a decision.

[Anonymous No.12792674]

>>12792450
t. libertarian socialist

[Anonymous No.12792676]

>>12792664
humans are not distinct from nature; there is not natural anything
you are calling for genocide on purely aesthetics grounds, mistaking your personal taste for a moral law

[Anonymous No.12792680]

>>12792450
beats spending your life hauling rocks around at the communal farm, bossed around by trannies

[Anonymous No.12792683]

>>12792628
This is bait

[Anonymous No.12792689]

>>12792676
all politics and all morality are ultimately all about aesthetics. I prefer the aesthetics of purity, youth and strenght to those of disease, weakness and perversion. does that make me a bad person?

[Anonymous No.12792690]

>>12792683
no way, how'd you figure?

[Anonymous No.12792706]

>>12790495
>climate change isn’t real but it is
Yeah, just because we cut down trees and still live means if we keep pumping carbon into the atmosphere things will just work out.

[Anonymous No.12792734]

>>12792689
>all politics and all morality are ultimately all about aesthetics.
you don't actually know what this means, so you're excused for this idiocy.
no, you are not a 'bad' person for your stated preferences. but you are a creep, and should be neutered.

[Anonymous No.12792744]

>>12792689
>does that make me a bad person?
Yeah, because you have no idea what you’re talking about.

[Anonymous No.12792775]

People who think Ted's an ecofascist make me laugh. You guys realize that hating leftists doesn't make you a fascist, right? He thinks grand, overarching, "humanist" narratives like "nationality" or "racial purity" are just as groundless as Communism or whatever. Ted would laugh at everyone in this thread.

[Anonymous No.12792872]

>>12787758
Eco-Facism stems in the egoic desires of man, like all ideology, it will fail.

The world will survive humans, humans will not survive themselves, so long as they strive to achieve non-existent ideals.

[Anonymous No.12792874]

Hey /lit/, I'm starting a movement called Chemmunism. Now I failed out of chem 101 freshman year, but my knowledge of communism includes extensive readings of leftypol and the communist manifesto. What are some epic books that I can namedrop to suck anons down my mental toilet?

[Anonymous No.12792917]

>>12792520
oh sure, anticapitalism is a fascist thing now! lmfao. You all pretend to take over socialist anticapitalism but are completely oblivious to the real functionings of it because you straight up refuse to read theory. I have never seen a fascist say how exactly they plan on "opposing capitalism" since none of them seems to plan on eliminating the profit motive, the law of value, or any capitalist tenets really. Your anticapitalism seems to be "make unions stronger" or "the state acts as an arbiter lmao", honestly even more pathetic an limp than the "democratic socialism" of chapofags. You propose to stop capitalism's effects without disposing with capitalism and it's laughable.

>>12792492
you criticize the mainstream left for having no serious solutions (which they don't) but then you show me a video of Charles Manson saying "maan you gotta fix the water like, there's so much trash in the water man" because you unironically can't see how that's "dude weed" speech, on top of seriously misunderstanting every author you quote like the other poster said. sad really.

>>12792555
i don't even think i need to bother responding to this one

[Anonymous No.12792934]

>>12792450
This. Whether you take it as paid trolling by corporate psychopaths to discredit any practical measures taken to limit & reverse damage, or as spontaneous extremist reaction against industrialization and its consequences, one detects the same kind of thuggish cult-leader protagonist, promising relief from the very abuses his system is setup to cause. From the outset, neither give a rat's ass for remediation, much less posterity. So as life imitates art, the lowest human form of it is the living meme.

[Anonymous No.12792946]

>>12792492
and also, like the other poster said, and something most of the semi-ironic fascism of 4chan seems to forget, is that opposing the left doesn't turn you into a fascist. Just into a right winger with an autistic obsession with nazi imagery, who then exposes himself to so much nazi propaganda that they unironically fall for it and retrospectively become racist.
and the whole "appropiate fear symbols" thing is beyond retarded. it serves no purpose and actively, if you're not an actual internet fascist, will undermine your movement.
I can see that you may be in the "ironic" branch of the 4chan fascist larping party

[Anonymous No.12792950]

>>12792917
>i don't even think i need to bother responding to this one
o9a pisses off all leftists because they know they will never come up with something as edgy or transgressive. we won the arms race of counterculture cool, give up already gramps.

[Anonymous No.12792958]

>>12792872
Buddhists cannot be chantards

[Anonymous No.12792969]

>>12788633
Based and Blackpilled

[Anonymous No.12792970]

>>12792734
>>12792744
>muh humanity muh let's hold hand together
if you aren't Christian don't ever talk about being moral

[Anonymous No.12792972]

>>12792950
lol i actually agree with you on this one. the right has won the counterculture war because it's actually able to not take itself seriously (which, as a political movement btw, is abominable, but as a method of demagoguery is very useful) and turn to irony when disengaging from argument.
the left really can't fucking meme. every leftist "meme" is just filled with so much spite and anger, and is clearly a reaction to a right-wing meme, it's just not humor. whatever laughter people get on twitter from shitty leftist meme is not actually humorous but this sort of cathartic revenge, justice-porn, anger-release

[Anonymous No.12792979]

>>12792946
it's about being transgressive and breaking all the rules, we need to terrorise the mundanes and promote a general state of apocalyptic hysteria, so as to pave the way for revolutionary change.

[Anonymous No.12792987]

>>12789417
It's less than what you mutts pay to Israel

[Anonymous No.12792989]

>>12792979
that's a retarded plan though.
there's literally no reason it should work

[Anonymous No.12793025]

>>12790524
No, trannies can still find a mate even if they will never procreate. The incel is several tiers below them in the social hierarchy and is doomed to fix himself or die alone.

[Anonymous No.12793029]

>>12792874
Just say that you've read das kapital to other college communists, college communists don't actually read that shit.

[Anonymous No.12793130]

>>12787758
The Limits to Growth, 1972

https://www.clubofrome.org/report/the-limits-to-growth/

It's crazy, the conspiracy theorists/alt media are now peddling the ideology of the elites. I stopped washing know arms in 2013, but I remember this was big.

[Anonymous No.12793141]

>>12787758
The Limits to Growth, 1972

https://www.clubofrome.org/report/the-limits-to-growth/

It's crazy, the conspiracy theorists/alt media are now peddling the ideology of the elites.

[Anonymous No.12793174]

>>12792429
Check's in the mayo

[Anonymous No.12793188]

>>12790495
>denies mans impact on the earths climate
>"Humans have always been changing the
environment around them"
>>12790504
>"Number four: How to stop climate change sorta"

What the hell are you doing? I "climate change" fascist innuendo for manning the government now?

[Anonymous No.12793312]

>>12787765
>your body will eventually turn to humus

[Anonymous No.12793318]

>>12792917
>oh sure, anticapitalism is a fascist thing now! lmfao.

[Anonymous No.12793337]

Isn't any sort of ridiculously aggressive ideology just antithetical to human happiness? :3

[Anonymous No.12793381]

>>12793318
wow guess im proven wrong, thank you!

[Anonymous No.12793416]

>>12788565
an idiot

[Anonymous No.12794565]

>>12792989
brainlet read lenin

[Anonymous No.12794579]

>>12790532
Is this actually true? Someone could shoot up an oil company office tomorrow

[Anonymous No.12794586]

Is there a way to promote grass roots activism, reclaiming sustainable farming practices, and environmental concern as a number one priority without the fascism genocide seems a bit harsh. Plus I wanna grow pot so I need black people to bolster the market.

[Anonymous No.12794658]

>>12792706
>>12793188
I think I worded myself badly, climate change is ofc man-made, the sham is the popular medias solution/portrayal to climate-change.
Instead of advocating grass-roots activism and retaking nature on a local plan, our attention is always diverted as far away as possible.
Slowing the death of the planet, but making no attempt to stop it.

>>12793188
I was just advocating what I think will be the most effective way to impact the climate positively. Most people don't know that the state is all about breaking your legs and then giving you crutches. It's impossible for them to make anything other than band-aid solutions. I'm not a fascist btw.
There's a lot you can do, especially on a personal level, for this I really like this quote by Ursula Le Guin: “You cannot buy the revolution. You cannot make the revolution. You can only be the revolution. It is in your spirit, or it is nowhere.”

I think veganism has the potential to become one of the most interesting philosophies of the 21st century, and I think, if treated right, it could be massive in combating climate change and changing our view in regards to nature.

[Anonymous No.12794661]

>>12794565
Nigger

[Anonymous No.12794667]

>>12794661
you too <3

[Anonymous No.12794701]

Would you consider Varg an eco-fascist?

[Anonymous No.12794777]

>>12790495
>>12790504
Wow, the first post I’ve known to be from a Dane on 4chan that was actually good.

t. Fjældabe currently in Esbjerg waiting for my helicopter to one of your oil rigs.

[Anonymous No.12794792]

>>12794701
yes, he might be closer to a tribalist though.

[Anonymous No.12794799]

>>12788254
>isaif in pollution

[Anonymous No.12794801]

>>12794701
he’s whatever the terrorist is. plus a nordicist and he believes nords are pure neanderthals

[Anonymous No.12794813]

>>12787765
5 wp racists triggered

[Anonymous No.12794867]

>>12794658
The problem with you revolution fetishists is thinking that a better world will come if only we rip up the current one. The fact is that things are incredibly now likely too get worse, not better, after any revolution.
>Veganism could be the most important philosophy
Oh, you were just retarded all along

[Anonymous No.12794893]

>>12794867
I think you misunderstood my post, I'm not for neither reform or revolution, and honestly hate that kind of thinking.
I'm way more into grassroots activism, agorism, building a new society in the shell of the old etc, hence the quote highlighting the revolution as an individual endeavour.

>Oh, you were just retarded all along
You could try and ask me questions or argue against me if you don't agree with me, instead of just resorting to name-calling.

>>12794777
Ty :)
Really should go to Norway soon, such a long time since I've been there. I work with traditional folk music and norwegian is probably my favourite.

[Anonymous No.12794934]

>>12794801
He's discredited the madlad, though. Says NZ is for maoris and Europe is for europeans. And that the only right path is boycotting globalism by living primitive and rural.

>>12791966
>The best place
I don't know, but Montana comes to (my) mind; Lowest pop density in USA, inland (no coast = no dense commerce), but of course the cold winter could make it hard for you. Alternately, I would go for one of the inland southern states east of the Mississippi River. Preferably in a corner that's far from Mississippi River.
Oh by the way, I don't know what Fukuoka-style farming is. Sorry.

[Anonymous No.12794950]

>>12789768
As if the money would be spent otherwise. Also the money would to prevent destructive industrialization in the Global South, since that is what will fuck us big time.

[Anonymous No.12794955]

>>12792970
Okay, I'll so that then because you certainly can’t.

[Anonymous No.12794974]

>>12794867
This. You should just ride the tiger and let everything else decay around you. There is no need for any revolution, and people will simply submit to your will when it's plainly superior.

[Anonymous No.12794975]

>>12789768
>More Co2 wont end the planet
Sure it won’t but you will complain when your house gets flooded for the fifth time a month.

[Anonymous No.12794979]

>>12792950
Clearly someone haven’t heard of the Posadist international

[Anonymous No.12794981]

>>12794975
This is only a problem for people who live about 1 mile within the coastline. There shouldn't be any houses there to begin with. The buffer zones are invaluable for biodiversity and shielding our civilization against storms.

[Anonymous No.12794982]

>>12794867
t. comfortable bourgeois
you will become fertilizer for a tree soon enough

[Anonymous No.12794989]

>>12792674
>implying that’s not the only tenable alternative

[Anonymous No.12794991]

>>12794981
Flooding's gonna be a problem for anyone who lives near a river, but anyway floodings are not the only thing that will become more intense like storms, blizzards, hurricanes, droughts and wildfires.
And that’s just in the short term.

[Anonymous No.12794994]

>>12794981
My nigga at least 20% of people live by th coast

[Anonymous No.12794999]

>>12794893
Cool beans, I didn’t think you had any apart from Kim Larsen (pbuh). I’m somewhat into the scene myself, it’s quite comfy.

[Anonymous No.12795012]

>>12789718
>muh esthetic
As if that wasn't a good point on them if anything.
>rest of the post
Yep, you totally psychoanalyzed them and revealed that they don't care about what they say they care but about something else. Truly btfo, how will they ever recover.
How can you fail so much as to be incapable of giving a sound critique of a meme movement?

[Anonymous No.12795020]

>>12794994
This is impressive when you consider the fact that 50% of people are mathematically defined retarded. The situation isn't hopeless.

[Anonymous No.12795023]

>>12792349
>extremely online
Fuck, it hasn't even been a few days yet.

[Anonymous No.12795026]

>>12787765
Why stop at myself when the remains of countless kikes and bugmen will provide much more?

[Anonymous No.12795027]

>>12794991
Rivers get water from rain, springs, and so on. Co2 is not likely to impact rivers much. The storms only appear to be more intense now because we don't have buffers to weaken them before they reach us now.

[Anonymous No.12795031]

Redpill me on nuclear and reneweables. Why are they both shilled so much and are they actually good? Which is better?

[Anonymous No.12795032]

>>12795020
Nobody planned on the fact that they would cause the ice caps to melt when they built the cities you retard.

[Anonymous No.12795036]

>>12787765
/thread lmao

[Anonymous No.12795037]

>>12795031
Nuclear is good idea, as long it's executed correctly (this is the hard part). Only solar power out of all renewables appear to be worthy compromise between environment destruction and benefits. The nature needs isolated space first and foremost. Solar panels can be placed on top of the man-made structures and this is why it's good for nature. If you're clearing out the existing natural spaces to place panels, then you're no better than the oil industry.

[Anonymous No.12795041]

>>12795032
Well, we know now. Why are we sitting around and making a bad situation worse? Just ban building along coast lines.

[Anonymous No.12795047]

>>12795041
Good luck relocating populations and wealth en masse from those areas to inner areas. Might as well fix the environment while you are at it. FFS use your fucking brain.

>>12795031
Nuclear fission has some implementation problems but worth it and fusion is still very far away. A more decentralized energy distribution system should focus on renewables though.

[Anonymous No.12795058]

>>12795047
Ban new building, and the cities will slowly decay and people will relocate on their own will. I am using my brain and you aren't.

[Anonymous No.12795066]

>>12795027
Higher ocean temperatures = more rain, you bumbling retard

[Anonymous No.12795119]

>>12795058
That sounds fucking retarded

[Anonymous No.12795128]

>>12794893
Ok Anon, I apologize:)

[Anonymous No.12795152]

>>12795012
You yourself called it a meme movement.
My point is that there is nothing to "critique" when there's evidently no eco-fascist theory to begin with. Just shallow statements about the need for authority, which in itself doesn't imply fascism

[Anonymous No.12795377]

>>12792680
hot

[Anonymous No.12795685]

>>12787765
>>12787794
cringe

[Anonymous No.12795769]

>>12794701
He's just a socialist

[Anonymous No.12796425]

>>12792126
the lorax

[Anonymous No.12796452]

>>12792608
trannies regularly call for the death of the cisgender, bruh. their entire rhetoric is one of domination and violence, you probably don't notice because they look like clowns

[Anonymous No.12796463]

>>12788545
You fix the environment via solar and nuclear power, not hugging trees. Become an engineer.

[Anonymous No.12796470]

>>12794579
100% fake, environmentalists are delusional

[Anonymous No.12796717]

>>12792349
bookchin doesn't have a good explanation for how to accomplish it, but he is against most of the things you listed. he wants to end the managerial class and decentralize

[Anonymous No.12796757]

>>12787758

Join WWOOF and go live and work on an actual farm, OP.

[Anonymous No.12797089]

Hans Jonas is really great

[Anonymous No.12797859]

>>12792272
Don't. I've read through most of his work and his ideas about localism aren't bad however there is nothing ecological about it.

For some reason Bookchin is obsessed with pushing everyone into big cities and making them eco friend through technology.

Humans aren't meant to live in such close proximity and technology is not good for ecology.

He's also a jew

[Anonymous No.12797870]

>>12797859
This was basically my take on Bookchin. His ideas are ultimately self defeating.

[Anonymous No.12797873]

>>12797859
You sound stable

[Anonymous No.12797881]

>>12797873
Seemed like a legitimate criticism to me. Aside from the last sentence.

[Anonymous No.12797896]

>>12797873
do you have any actual criticism of my analysis or are you just a butthurt leftist?

[Anonymous No.12797909]

>>12792775
Who the fuck are you talking to?

[Anonymous No.12797912]

>>12797881
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murray_Bookchin

[Anonymous No.12797915]

>>12792872
>Eco-Facism stems in the egoic desires of man

Such as?

[Anonymous No.12797920]

>>12797909
>He doesn't know Uncle Ted

[Anonymous No.12797948]

>>12797912
I get that he's a jew. But pointing out that he's a jew isn't a legitimate criticism of his ideas. It's like when black people get upset about the fact that the classics were written by white people. It's not legitimate criticism.

[Anonymous No.12797952]

>>12797920
The “he doesn’t know Uncle ted” meme. Nice. This ain’t /pol/ faggot.

I was asking who he was replying to. Nobody was even talking about Ted.

[Anonymous No.12797955]

>>12792872
based

[Anonymous No.12797962]

>>12797915
Thinking that the fate of world depends on the actions of humans.

[Anonymous No.12797998]

>>12797948
>I get that he's a jew. But pointing out that he's a jew isn't a legitimate criticism of his ideas. It's like when black people get upset about the fact that the classics were written by white people. It's not legitimate criticism.

when did I saw it was? It is more of a warning label. You can choose to heed the warning or ignore it. No where was it passed off as criticism but knowledge of what his views are inspired by

[Anonymous No.12798023]

>>12797998
Fair enough

[Anonymous No.12798643]

>>12791010
"The Biocentric Worldview" by Ludwig Klages.

[Anonymous No.12798677]

>>12797896
TECHNOLOGY BAD

[Anonymous No.12798684]

the next mass shooter ITT

[Anonymous No.12798695]

>>12798023
Not really, but whatever

[Anonymous No.12798998]

It's written by a leaf but technology and empire by George Grant could probably fit in with this

[Anonymous No.12799189]

>>12792151
Cringe. You will never be a real woman.

[Anonymous No.12799500]

>>12795026
baste

[Anonymous No.12799555]

>>12792550
What The

[Anonymous No.12799563]

>>12787765
do this OP. it's the ecofascistest thing you can possibly do

[Anonymous No.12799576]

Fascists are retards who should be shot. The ultimate cuckolds to authority.

[Anonymous No.12799597]

Also, Americans are the worst polluters in the world. The American military is literally the worst polluter on the planet. If you want to start fixing the environment then you need to either kill all the Americans, help the Americans kill the capitalists, or just nuke America. I don't care which happens but that'd start off saving the world. Not only would Americans be dead (which is always a good thing) but we wouldn't have to suffer anymore retarded posts like anyone who agrees with fascism or thinks non-whites pollute the most. Even the Chinese aren't the worst polluters and consumers per person.

[Anonymous No.12799615]

>>12792917
>I have never seen a fascist say how exactly they plan on "opposing capitalism"
Read Mein Kampf. You should easily derive Hitler's complete lack of preparation to deal with this topic - but you will also see that he does address the topic and make an attempt at solving the problem. This is not new.

[Anonymous No.12799630]

>>12799597
This is completely false. Might have been true in the 50s

[Anonymous No.12799634]

>>12799597
china

[Anonymous No.12799638]

>>12799576
>t. 16 year old communist/anarchist

[Anonymous No.12799660]

>>12799630
>>12799634

Still true today. Americans, per person, are the biggest consumers which leads to the largest waste. The American military is still the largest polluter.

You cannot just say "china" and make it right, you baboon.

[Anonymous No.12799670]

https://www.ecowatch.com/military-largest-polluter-2408760609.html

:thinking:

[Anonymous No.12800104]

>>12788458
aral sea

[Anonymous No.12800335]

>>12799597
I truly believe the world would be a better, less materialistic place if the British never ceded global hegemony to the Americans.

[Anonymous No.12800831]

>>12797920
>he doesn't know about Pynchon

[Anonymous No.12800907]

>>12798695
yes really

[Anonymous No.12801269]

>>12787765
humus

[Anonymous No.12801326]

>>12800907
nah

[Anonymous No.12801425]

>>12794994
and everytime a hurricane happens huge resources are wasted on coastal retards. only small fishing cities are useful

[Anonymous No.12802614]

I'm reading Mengele Zoo at the moment. It's p fun but lighthearted, anyone have any similar fiction to recommend?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mengele_Zoo

[Anonymous No.12802928]

>>12790589
If people stay in their own countries then populations will level out and everything will be fine.