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Anonymous Mon Mar 18 01:34:32 2019 No.12782547 [Reply] [Original]

Fresh take: it is pretty much necessary to be university educated in philosophy to be a halfway decent philosopher. Philosophy is too difficult and vast a subject to be able to come to grips with it by yourself, reading alone. You will be reinventing the wheel, thinking that you have come up with some new train of thought that has already been discovered thousands of years ago, unless you are properly educated on the history of philosophy, which requires the assistance of a professor, back and forth conversation with peers and more highly educated people to check your understanding. You will also not learn to articulate your thoughts, or to reason and back up your arguments thoroughly, to the extent that the greatest philosophers do, unless you are aided by others, and receive constant feedback and peer reviews of your work. I do not understand why people on /lit/ seem to think that if you simply read some philosophy on your own, that you will be able to actually be able to be a decent philosopher, or to come up with good philosophical writing. Sure, it's possible, but it's extraordinarily difficult. I don't know why it is that people seem to think that you need a Phd in physics to be a physicist, but you can be a philosopher by reading a few Nietzsche books on the side --it's time to dispel this myth. To further emphasize this fact, just take a look at any philosopher worth his salt: they all have phd's in philosophy.

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oEULhtSEDhe Mon Mar 18 01:38:19 2019 No.12782558 File: 33 KB, 400x389, 3CCB657A-1382-436E-B063-475CBE6A30B7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Fresh II: there are no openings for philosophers. All positions have even filled

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 18 01:43:24 2019 No.12782567 >>12782558 No worries, there are plenty of positions where philosophy graduates can throw their life away for money outside of academic philosophy

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 18 01:48:21 2019 No.12782584 >>12782567 Yeah, like machine learning for example.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 18 01:49:41 2019 No.12782590 >dude academia is a social club thanks for the stunning insight there shakespeare

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Anonymous Mon Mar 18 02:20:59 2019 No.12782688
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>>12782547
>data archivists
>lovers of wisdom
Fucks are going to be so blown away in the coming years there will be no going back. If not by the writings of some NEET then by the catastrophe of anti-humanist interest securities.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 18 02:23:45 2019 No.12782696 Fresh Take: There has never been a philosopher

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 18 02:25:29 2019 No.12782701 File: 13 KB, 300x173, bricks-2-300x173.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12782688 The academic revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 18 02:30:21 2019 No.12782710 >>12782701 >the academic revolution please, tell me more.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 18 02:50:55 2019 No.12782747 >>12782547 A great philosopher and a wonderful man. Rest in peace, Mr. Parfit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 18 03:03:17 2019 No.12782785 >>12782747 he was the absolute real deal. Probably was one of the most patrician people alive. The man would literally read Kant while brushing his teeth.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 18 03:05:28 2019 No.12782788 File: 588 KB, 1600x2136, holmes_2-112416.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >encouraging mediocre people who need such supports

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 18 03:14:26 2019 No.12782804 >>12782710 https://youtu.be/4IeyljeRAJQ

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Anonymous Mon Mar 18 03:19:02 2019 No.12782813

>>12782547
Corollary: Academics, grad students, and undergrads outside philosophy departments -- especially other humanities and the social sciences -- should not be able to touch philosophy at all without at least undergraduate and continuing post-graduate study in philosophy (this includes continental philosophy).

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 18 03:19:28 2019 No.12782814 File: 444 KB, 1366x768, 29.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12782804 Or

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 18 03:20:38 2019 No.12782815 File: 495 KB, 1198x1166, ExistenceIsKristallnacht.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12782814 or

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Anonymous Mon Mar 18 03:28:03 2019 No.12782829

>>12782813
Coronary: Burn down the museums.
"They have established time as a barometer of understanding. When a work wallows in the monstrous and inept brain of public opinion for an impressive number of years, then this work that has not been eaten but soiled by the saliva of society is accepted in the museum. It is recognised."

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 18 03:40:24 2019 No.12782854 it obviously isn't necessary. it's just a lot more difficult to properly educate yourself without any sort of curation or social support system. clearly some people do, though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 18 05:41:52 2019 No.12783159 >>12782788 based

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Stupid Fucking Moron !!ZP/J8RCepYY Mon Mar 18 06:08:19 2019 No.12783235

>>12782547
philosophy is nothing more than an unnecessary recursive exploration of simple things that are not difficult to understand. its embarrassing really. what has philosophy contributed to the world other than more suffering and more blowhards?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 18 06:13:16 2019 No.12783244 >>12783235 >philosophy is nothing more than Stopped reading after that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 18 06:14:39 2019 No.12783246 >>12782547 Nowadays you have to get a PHD just to be poor The world sucks

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 18 06:27:59 2019 No.12783277 so should I just not read Plato, Aristotle et al.?

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Anonymous Mon Mar 18 10:45:17 2019 No.12784019

>>12782547
Nah, this is bollocks; academic philosophy only values certain kinds of philosophy and labels all others as 'esoteric' or 'wrong think'. They do not approach every new form of philosophy with an open mind, they all have very similar opinions to one another and they are groomed to not come up with new ideas or thoughts but instead just muddle over what the semantics of long dead men used to say to one another.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 18 11:48:05 2019 No.12784249 >>12782547 Opinion DESCARTED.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 18 11:52:17 2019 No.12784270 >>12782547 Plato, Aristotle, Epicurus, Epictetus, Plotinus never went to university. Those people over here did https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/philosophy-jason-stanley/

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 18 11:56:57 2019 No.12784293 >>12784019 >t. never took a philosophy course

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 18 11:58:22 2019 No.12784299 >>12782547 I'm kinda split on this. On the one hand I agree that the unexamined life is not worth living and that philosophy is the greatest thing you can study but on the other hand I dont want to end up as a wagecuck working menial jobs.

>>	Stupid Fucking Moron !!ZP/J8RCepYY Mon Mar 18 15:17:28 2019 No.12785344 >>12783244 thanks for reading

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Stupid Fucking Moron !!ZP/J8RCepYY Mon Mar 18 15:19:50 2019 No.12785359

>>12784293
I mean I spent 4 years studying it so I should know, right? Phil study is either masturbating the literary ghosts of long dead mean, rarely women, or writing masturbatory fan fiction about it.
you might end up feeling worse, or better, but practically speaking philosophy does nothing for you except train your mind to be critical of what it absorbs.