is his manifesto the most lack luster?

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is his manifesto the most lack luster? Anonymous Sat Mar 16 00:37:36 2019 No.12770256 [Reply] [Original]

One of the most generic Ive ever read. Just a copy and paste /pol/ack. No introspection, nothing mildly interesting to say, just shit you’ve heard a million other retards say.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 00:41:10 2019 No.12770267 He admitted that he is a working class bloke in the beginning. It was generic, but straightforward enough. Were you looking for something more esoteric?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 00:41:29 2019 No.12770269 It's almost like people who go for infamy don't have the requisite talent for plain old fame. Imagine that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 00:43:37 2019 No.12770273 >>12770267 working class doesn't mean "nothing to say". dude phoned it in. mass-murdering gunmen have jumped the shark.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 00:43:44 2019 No.12770275
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>>12770256
bottom tier manifesto desu. But is almost as funny as My Twisted World knowing the guy unloaded into a fucking mosque.

Most well thought out,decent literature=The Unabomber Manifesto

Funniest,yet sad=My Twisted World

In-between the other two=The Great Replacement

Also ranked in best to worst ^

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 01:02:25 2019 No.12770323 its something that had to be done, its nestedly settled down like a bird whom had ist hatchlings. it is a bar. from now on no kekkers will kek that kek

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 01:07:45 2019 No.12770330 >>12770256 I could only make it 11 pages in.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 01:17:06 2019 No.12770343 Anyone have a link? The site I was reading it on took it down.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 01:19:13 2019 No.12770347 BUT THE BIRTHRATES

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 01:20:29 2019 No.12770351 >>12770256 the fact that he deleted his original 240 page manifesto pisses me off. theres no such thing as a manifesto thats too long. its literally the last thing you will ever be able to say to the world

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 01:24:16 2019 No.12770356 >>12770343 Go to the Kiwifarms thread on him. It has it in pdf format.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 01:28:31 2019 No.12770363 >>12770351 He's not dead, though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 02:06:49 2019 No.12770440 File: 1.76 MB, 3218x6480, nzshoot.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12770343

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 02:14:34 2019 No.12770455 >>12770256 >Just a copy and paste /pol/ack. No introspection He seemed pretty self-aware to me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 02:16:01 2019 No.12770461 he was mossad

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 02:17:01 2019 No.12770463 >>12770455 This. Dude was fully aware of his actions and got his point across.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 02:23:11 2019 No.12770477 >>12770440 >yes, Im a fascist >the nation closest to my social and political views is the People's Republic of China wew lad

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 02:39:57 2019 No.12770506 File: 51 KB, 1200x674, 1494269648654.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12770477 The NazBol gods have awakened.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 02:49:19 2019 No.12770521 Cho did it better

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 02:49:28 2019 No.12770522

>>12770477
China's state corporatism and nationalism makes it looks preeeetty close to a postmodern fascist nation. It lacks the "war all the time" obsession that fascism uses to force everyone to work within the system, but it's sort of replaced by east asias conformist culture.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 02:55:50 2019 No.12770533 >>12770256 It was metamodernist self-aware irony, think Sam Hyde crossed with the Order of Nine Angles

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 02:57:00 2019 No.12770536 >>12770477 desu its probably the closest state on the planent to being fascist, nowhere near an actual fascist state though, just authoritarian state capitalism

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Anonymous Sat Mar 16 03:09:08 2019 No.12770559

Time will tell if this is shit tier or not, you can pan it by default just because you can't abide the violence it's attached to, but if you try to separate, and just read it objectively, or better yet, from the perspective of an impressionable malcontent western male, of which there are millions, it's actually decently coherent.

I couldn't even make it 1/4 of the way through the Supreme Gentleman ER's bullshit manifesto, and yet, people found in him the hero they were looking for.

This one to me has the potential to be much more dangerous, or the opposite of dangerous, depending on your world view.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 03:12:38 2019 No.12770565 >>12770275 >almost as funny as My Twisted World Nowhere near it. Elliot came up with some genuine OC funny. The Australian guy has worse bantz than bantz, and they accept clobber.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 03:13:21 2019 No.12770567 >>12770565 you just didn't get the humour

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 03:19:54 2019 No.12770577 >>12770567 its literally just 4chan humour regurgitated. the dude gave off the vibe has never had an original thought in his life

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 03:20:31 2019 No.12770580 File: 119 KB, 1009x650, general ripper.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12770440 >Birthrates, Mandrake. It's how they are infiltrating and impurifying our precious racial hegemony.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 03:20:59 2019 No.12770581 >>12770546 What happened to his face? Did he block all of us on all our social media?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 03:22:19 2019 No.12770586 >>12770440 doesn't turkey extend like several hundred miles west of the bosphorus strait? does he expect the turkish government to just voluntarily surrender that territory? and half of istanbul?

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 03:23:22 2019 No.12770587

>>12770559
>Time will tell if this is shit tier or not, you can pan it by default
>on /lit/
/lit/ is the only reason anyone else knows Elliot listened to his hapa sister getting fucked by her brown man. They could tell it was good before the news stations he sent it to got to the MGTOW gay paradise he envisioned, and declared him the new Proust the first night. You just need to be told what is good because you can't make it a quarter of the way through a novella. This one isn't good literature. Both fake and real Rupi poems are better literature to give you a scale of how bad, and real Rupi is probably more dangerous (to good taste) or the opposite of dangerous (to braindead memesters)

Nobody finds Elliot the hero by the way unless you mean an hero. He's not even the hero in his own story unless you count splashing randos with tea to be a heroic act.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 03:23:35 2019 No.12770588 File: 214 KB, 1200x1200, ted-kaczynski-578450-1-420.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Bombers are better than shooters

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 03:24:24 2019 No.12770590 >>12770567 It's the same humour, just with less top tier bantz and less ponies.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 03:29:12 2019 No.12770607 >>12770587 >not even the hero in his own story But he was gonna win the lotto, anon.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 03:29:38 2019 No.12770608

>>12770256
well he did admit, he just did this up in a couple of weeks and didn't try hard, he claimed he had a well written 240 page one but deleted it out of insecurity, desu tho with the amount of typos you can see he took as little time as possible to write it up

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>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 03:32:07 2019 No.12770616 >>12770477 He's right, though. Funny how this supposed retard knows more about politics than /lit/.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 03:32:48 2019 No.12770618 >>12770608 >he claimed he had a well written 240 page one but >tho with the amount of typos you can see he took as little time as possible to write it up Now you know how his English teachers felt. It's like someone asked a 12 year old what is /pol/

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 03:33:50 2019 No.12770622 >>12770616 I doubt he knows how often Mao wrote about frogs, anon.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 03:42:25 2019 No.12770641

Anyone who thinks "the west" is something worth killing anyone over is retarded. I wouldn't even work hard enough to break a sweat for it. Why would anyone care about a place where people don't even bother to go to church anymore, where abortions outnumber live births, where little boys are brainwashed by their kindergaarten teachers into becomming drag queens who cut their own dicks off, where soldiers are sent off to die and drive others out of their countries into the ruins of their own nations to make way for Greater Israel? That place isn't even worth living in. Dying or killing for it? Don't make me laugh. Muslims in the west are just maggots feeding on the corpse of a society. I moved to Asia years ago. Not perfect, but at least I don't have to see morbidly obese bulldykes with rainbow mohawks parading each other around on leashes everytime I go out. This idiot threw his life away for nothing, and all he managed to do was murder a bunch of people who had formed an actual community with shared values amid the godless degenerate dystopian hellscape apostasy from Christ and the metastasis of insane liberalism have wrought around them. Imagine killing in the name of a civilization that's already dead. What a fuckup.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 03:45:02 2019 No.12770649 The internet was a mistake

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 03:46:19 2019 No.12770653 >>12770440 It's like he doesn't realise New Zealand isn't actually an European country

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 03:47:01 2019 No.12770655 File: 46 KB, 630x486, images.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12770477 And he's not just a fascist. He's an ecofascist. He had to be trolling.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 03:47:07 2019 No.12770657 >>12770607 kek shit I'd forgotten about that

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 03:50:20 2019 No.12770662 >>12770641 >I moved to Asia years ago Where? What do you do?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 03:50:26 2019 No.12770663 >>12770641 At least he isn't a traitor who ran away from his countries problems. I'm guessing you're also married to some ugly chink? But don't worry guys, she is a Christian.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 03:50:43 2019 No.12770664 >>12770653 Well, you can't expect him to read the whole guide book introduction before going on holiday. That's like expecting him to have read Land before declaring himself an accelerationist.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 03:51:45 2019 No.12770665 >>12770663 >who ran away from his countries problems NZ isn't in Australia

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 03:55:24 2019 No.12770672

>>12770665
Personally I think any whitey who is worth a damn lives in Europe but that's not my point. I just hate these fucks who pretend to care about white people, or christianity, or western civilization or whatever but then go off to fuck some asian chicks. These are the same guys who say "White woman are all whores".

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 03:55:26 2019 No.12770673

>>12770522
>It lacks the "war all the time" obsession

Apart from the constant hacking, economic warfare, South China sea stuff, industrial warfare with the west, resource warfare in Africa, aggressive diplomacy, backing Naxalites in India, dissident gulags, Tibet, and so on.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 03:58:24 2019 No.12770681

>>12770672
>just hate these fucks who pretend to care about white people, or christianity, or western civilization or whatever but then go off to fuck some asian chicks. These are the same guys who say "White woman are all whores".
>on 4channel
>A site founded by one New Yorker obsessed with Rei in NGE
Where the fuck do you think you are?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 04:00:31 2019 No.12770690 >>12770681 >Rei >site founded by one New Yorker obsessed with Rei in NGE >Rei Tone back the trolling >>12770672 has no fucking clue you're being this retarded on purpose.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 04:02:14 2019 No.12770693 >>12770690 >letting him know of a best girl Shh

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 04:05:08 2019 No.12770702

>>12770663
>At least he isn't a traitor who ran away from his countries problems.
To betray a group you actually have to belong to a group the first place. I was born into a vacuum. It takes a village to raise a child. Where was my village? I was raised by wolves that only ever wanted to devour me. I didn't abandon Canada. Canada abandoned me. If my entire "country" (if that's what you call it) burned down I wouldn't even bother returning to piss on its ashes. Its name means nothing to me but some letters printed on my passport.

>I'm guessing you're also married to some ugly chink? But don't worry guys, she is a Christian.
If I wanted to marry a chink I didn't have to leave to do that. I'd have an easier time meeting genuine Christians here than back there, though. Oh, and fuck the white race.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 04:07:32 2019 No.12770709

>>12770673
Nooo. That is not what I meant. The "war all the time" is literally about mobilizing your own people for war and conflict. It is in this "war state" that the masses, the private sector, the military, the unions, and the state work as one and make the necessary sacrifices to achieve the goals of greatness. That is not the role of postmodern imperial warfare that the US and China do at all... The regular citizen is meant to be detached and unconcerned with the constant war the State has exported abroad. This is the opposite of war in the fascist sense.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 04:08:31 2019 No.12770711

>>12770672
>pretend to care about white people, or christianity, or western civilization
I'm telling you how much I care about white people and western civilization: 0. I only care about Christianity. Which isn't particularly white or western, especially these days. And guess what? I've never fucked an Asian. And white women are indeed all whores. Cheers.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 04:10:03 2019 No.12770714

>>12770533
>the Order of Nine Angles
This is something I don't think anyone has picked up on yet. His manifesto and other stuff is packed with o9a symbolism, especially the atomwaffen stuff (which we now know from the last year or two was an o9a operation). One big thing the media misses is these o9a guys aren't fascists for the sake of being fascists. They are fascists for the sake of being extremists, which is why there is also the other stuff about ecofascism (which is another thing o9a having been pushing for awhile, along with the North Korea stuff, which the manifesto guy had visited). The major reason for these idiots jumping all over the place with this extremism, which is exactly what he does in the manifesto, is because o9a are a satanic group who want to bring back the true horrors of satanism. If you read the o9a manifestos they talk about this stuff. They call groups like nazis, ecofascists, etc. as having "sinister potential" to cause war and horror. They are vehicles for satanism.

Absolutely no one in the media, or anywhere else, want to talk about this, because it sounds crazy. People will be like "haha, it's not satanists, tips fedora."

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 04:11:45 2019 No.12770717

>>12770641
This is the crux of it. Even if he somehow successfully drove Muslims out of majority white countries, it would do nothing to solve the actual modern problems that motivated him to action (death of mass religion, atomization of the social unit, social stratification that leaves those below the upper middle class in a state of constant uncertainty).

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 04:12:27 2019 No.12770718

>>12770702
>>12770711
If that is how you feel I'm sorry for you. You're childhood must have been pretty rough to leave that bad of an impression on your own race.

But still. You are everything I hate about modern society. You are worse than the liberals who are trying to destroy us. You obviously had the potential to choose to do something, but you chose to do something worse than doing nothing would have been.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 04:12:33 2019 No.12770719

>>12770709
>The "war all the time" is literally about mobilizing your own people for war and conflict. It is in this "war state" that the masses, the private sector, the military, the unions, and the state work as one and make the necessary sacrifices to achieve the goals of greatness.

This is what they are doing tho. See the hacker patriot groups, as one example. You are using "war" in a very narrow sense.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 04:14:03 2019 No.12770722 >>12770577 > the dude gave off the vibe has never had an original thought in his life What does this even mean? What truly original thought have you had? Nothings new under the sun, anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 04:17:37 2019 No.12770727 >>12770718 >You are everything I hate about modern society. Not him, but can hardly have been fucking up your life for long, you only met in this thread. Plus, you might want to leave some room for hating mimes. They still exist, you know.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 04:18:21 2019 No.12770729

>>12770722
This, everything worthwhile to be said has already been said. I read books to gain the wisdom of dead people, imagine if I thought it would be more worthwhile to come up with all the wisdom just by trying to have original thoughts instead. We are all just regurgitating old opinions.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 04:19:00 2019 No.12770730 >>12770722 >makes himself a walking meme >Anon refuses to notice Good work not giving in to what the mass shooters want, anon.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 04:24:18 2019 No.12770742

>>12770722
his whole character was a copy and paste /pol/ack with no variation. he was so devoid of personality that even the jokes he made were just regurgitated memes from here. the ultimate npc. reading through his generic ass manifesto i assumed that his political ideas were just masks and he was simply using this force fed ideology as vehicle to express his repressed violent nature or he was extremely low iq. probably both.

you have a problem when your whole outlook on life just happens to be a perfect replication of the ideal a anime forum you happen to visit says is the correct one.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 04:25:57 2019 No.12770744 >>12770742 >a copy and paste /pol/ack You seem to think this phrase is much more clever than it is

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 04:27:01 2019 No.12770748 >>12770744 I found the /pol/ npc

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 04:30:46 2019 No.12770758

>>12770744
You seem to be redditspacing and not realize >>12770742 is being descriptive. The manifesto is copypasta from infinitychan's pol and bits of Kipling and the guy even included a lot of his sources for his pastas. He even used the navy seals pasta for the attack. You look like you came fresh from reddit to outside observers.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 04:34:49 2019 No.12770762

>>12770718
You're clutching at straws when you should be learning to swim. It's been a long road to get where I am. You want some advice? Know when to hold em, know when to fold em. If you're interested in the survival of any aspect of western culture, you need to recognize that the opportunity for mass politics or states or wars or revolutions has long passed. The course is locked. The enemy is jangling the keys to the kingdom in your face. You can't hold onto everything. Lower your expectations. You need to pare down what you think is worth saving and get out. For me that's the Christian faith. Next you need to realize that what you place into your ark will only survive into the far future at most in the form of scattered enclaves. The rest will burn. Think of seeds thrown to the wind before the first chill of winter. What's coming will either be a decline into new dark age or the reign of the antichrist. Either way you can't stop it, just put by what you can before the final collapse or the boot comes down.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 04:35:59 2019 No.12770764

>>12770655
I think its refreshing to see someone happily claim the title of ecofascist actually. not that I have any respect for the ideology but I do feel that someone claiming it and becoming the most well known person who can be called an ecofascist is very interesting.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 04:39:16 2019 No.12770767 >>12770440 > open picture > click zoom at random spot. "The radicalization of young western men is not just unavoidable, but inevitable ..." Why am i annoyed that the guy isn't smarter then he is?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 04:39:24 2019 No.12770768 >>12770764 >I do feel that someone claiming it and becoming the most well known person who can be called an ecofascist is very interesting. Did Linkola steal your pet to release him back to nature or something?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 04:40:13 2019 No.12770772 >>12770714 Where did you guys get this idea of the Nine Angels from ? Any specific passage of the manifesto that relates to them?

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 04:43:37 2019 No.12770781

>>12770719
I am using it in the narrow sense because I was using it in the fascist sense.

Imperial powers, regardless of fascism, are always at war. US, Russia, China are the imperial powers. Their war posture is not like the fascist motivation for war hence why I am separating it. No one is claiming China isn't a belligerent actor.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 04:44:44 2019 No.12770783

>>12770768
Linkola isn't really remembered by folks for the most part. I'm not saying he's the SMARTEST of the ecofascists, just going to be the most well known.

Also, due to being unfamiliar with his work I don't know that Linkola would consider himself an ecofascist.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 04:50:39 2019 No.12770794 >>12770783 He's a deep ecologist. I assumed you want them to be hated and invaded by trolls, since the term is mainly used by people who say it's a bad thing.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 04:50:39 2019 No.12770795

>>12770762
You are probably right, I just feel like it is wrong to go down without a fight. Maybe I just have to learn to ride the tiger.
I'll choose white people over Christianity any day though, without whites no one would give a shit about Jesus today.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 04:52:18 2019 No.12770797 >>12770795 The Irish aren't white.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 04:54:06 2019 No.12770803 >>12770797 Wanna expand on that or are you just saying random shit?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 04:56:00 2019 No.12770807 >>12770803 It's a /pol/ meme started by braindead germanic supremacists.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 04:56:02 2019 No.12770808 The amount of people on pol who are genuinely happy that toddlers got killed is insane. What kind of fucked up so you have to be to think that way.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 04:57:13 2019 No.12770810 >>12770795 The city is lost. Go start a village, one that can raise a child. You aren't welcome in mine, though. I don't give a shit about whites without Jesus.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 04:59:22 2019 No.12770814

>>12770803
>>12770803
Ireland preserved most of Christianity since 410AD, and wrote in that they were the only white people on earth through dodgy etymologies in the middle ages.
>>12770807
That too, but a lot of countries only started considering them to be white c1920s

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 05:02:09 2019 No.12770818 >>12770810 Fair enough, I'm sure if my parents raised me with Jesus I would be a Christian. It would not feel authentic at all if I tried to convert today. >>12770814 Interesting, I didn't know that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 05:03:33 2019 No.12770820 >>12770808 trump killed /pol/. its populated by a bunch of morons now. i posted there from 2013-2017 the iq decreases on /pol/ every year. absolute maggots

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 05:05:04 2019 No.12770823 >>12770622 You realize that things happened since Mao, right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 05:05:42 2019 No.12770824 >>12770794 I am not interested in smear campaigns :) Out of curiosity, what do you feel about groups like ITS in Mexico?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 05:08:34 2019 No.12770827 >>12770818 My parents were atheists. I converted when I was 19. With God all things are possible.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 05:11:58 2019 No.12770834 >>12770827 >With God all things are possible. holy jesus my friend you need some satan in your life

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 05:13:44 2019 No.12770838 >>12770808 They're just being edgy teens, at least I hope.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 05:13:45 2019 No.12770839

>>12770818
>>12770818
Ask Google if the Irish are one of the lost tribes of Israel and you'll get all kinds of weird goodness. The English maintained for longer than most that the Irish weren't white, because Aldous Huxley's grandfather TH Huxley was the Richard Dawkins of his day. He went around arguing with bishops about how Darwin was right, but also came up with this weird explanation how the Irish were "dark whites" and therefore less evolved than the English or Germans. Lots of newspapers used depict them as still being apes because of that, especially when they wanted independence.
>>12770823
Mao on Japanese Imperialism is the closest to what the pastashooter's views were, and it contains a lot of frogs. Read more instead of hoping books aren't relevant.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 05:17:51 2019 No.12770845 >>12770824 >Out of curiosity, what do you feel about groups like ITS in Mexico? Not much.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 05:19:48 2019 No.12770847 >>12770845 Not much because you don't know about them, or not much because you don't care about them? If it's cause you don't know about them, I highly recommend looking into them purely for the effect they've had on the worldwide anarchist community.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 05:21:29 2019 No.12770851 >>12770839 But he wasn't talking about Mao, he was talking about current China. Mao wouldn't be enough, Xiaoping happened too

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 05:22:26 2019 No.12770852

>>12770256
I agree, but it's also due to our proximity to the memes. Other manifestos attract people due to the faux-mystique they build around them. With this one, it's embedded in meme culture and so are a significant chunk of younger generations, so no mystery here.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 05:22:45 2019 No.12770853

>>12770838
They're not even teens. They're the manchildren you've been hearing so much about. Some throw tantrums over y ppl no respet wombyn sniff and some throw celebrations over dead babies, but it's all adults who never got past the age of three mentally and have no idea what empathy for a dead child is like.

A deaf girl dying was a fucking revelation of sadness for the shooter, and seems to be the first time he thought about maybe it's sad when terrorists kill people. He immediately decided to throw a tantrum upon this revelation. They're all three year olds in adult bodies who would probably throw a baby in the bin if it stopped breathing while they were babysitting it.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 05:27:06 2019 No.12770861

>>12770851
>No he must have meant something which fits his views expressed even less
He probably did but that's because he's an idiot spouting off words he heard from the internet. Still, Tactics on Japanese Imperialism is closest to his outlined beliefs, and while he probably never read it, it's been influential enough that he could pick the main points up through osmosis. Doing that deprived him of knowing how many frogs there were in Mao's work though, like I said off the bat, and he was probably utterly unaware of the origins of his ideology. Which is just what Mao would have wanted to be fair.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 05:28:31 2019 No.12770863 >>12770847 >worldwide anarchist community. I care even less now and not out of opposition to anarchy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 05:30:00 2019 No.12770867 >>12770863 lol, it's not important by any means, just the drama is hilarious. I understand wanting to not read about the anarchists though- what a pathetic bunch they are.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 05:30:54 2019 No.12770871

>>12770440
>sitting outside a walmart and seething at the mere presence of minorities
>Australia and Bavaria are the same people and the same culture because both white
>includes the entire navy seal pasta
Okay, I'm laughing.

And as expected, he says nothing about what is actually worth defending about western culture or the white race except that they're his, in fact he says whites are degenerate, nihilistic, dominated by evil individualism, and says the nation that best embodies his political and social values is China. I'm convinced these people don't really like the west or white people, they just hate brown people.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 05:34:19 2019 No.12770876

>>12770867
>>12770824
>am not interested in smear campaigns :)
>Out of curiosity, what do you feel about groups like ITS in Mexico
>>12770867
>the drama is hilarious
>what a pathetic bunch they are.
There are other boards for your ever changing shower thoughts where people will pretend you don't sound like a chick trying to get laid by pretending she really loves [sports team] too

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 05:37:19 2019 No.12770881 >>12770876 What 'sports team' am I pretending to love?

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 05:37:22 2019 No.12770882

>>12770808
>>12770853
>>12770871
You would do yourself and everyone else a favor if you just stayed on reddit where you quite obviously came from.
Your posts are shit, you have no insight into 4chan culture and you're just wasting everyone's time.
At least lurk more before you start posting. Have some fucking respect and humility.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 05:39:19 2019 No.12770885 >>12770882 CRINGE

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 05:40:46 2019 No.12770888 >>12770881 Whichever one the dick you want to ride says, even if he changes it to fuck with your game. >Oh yeah no I meant [sports team #2] >No really!! :3 Learn to read or go watch your dramas.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 05:42:47 2019 No.12770889 >>12770882 >no we're all about dead babies and gore >We'd even kill a cat we're so edgy Fuck off back to pleddit, the adults are talking.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 05:43:04 2019 No.12770890 >>12770882 Excuse me, I've been here as long as 4channel has existed. Why don't you go back to 4chan?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 05:43:33 2019 No.12770893 >>12770888 Nice trips but I am still unsure what you're trying to say, I never said I liked any of the groups I've talked about. Maybe you should learn to read?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 05:46:50 2019 No.12770897 >>12770893 >no but really my sportsball knowledge is so complex I just brought up that other team to see if you were listening I still don't care.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 05:50:29 2019 No.12770911 >>12770897 I brought ITS and the anarchists up cause I thought you might be interested, and I explained as much when I brought it all up. I think you're making a bit more out of this than there really was.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 05:53:09 2019 No.12770918 I agree with /pol/ on most issues but I feel that killing innocents is disgusting. I genuinely wonder if both /pol/s are filled with FBI glow in the darks for thinking this massacre will turn into something positive.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 05:53:17 2019 No.12770919 >>12770911 > I thought you might be interested, You thought wrong.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 06:04:18 2019 No.12770945 >>12770882 Lmao Neo Pol cancer is so pathetic. You mongoloids really managed to drive out everyone with half a brain.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 06:05:42 2019 No.12770950 >>12770256 Just look at the cunt, classic anglo inbred.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 06:09:58 2019 No.12770958 >>12770871 >Australia and Bavaria are the same people and the same culture because both white Extreme cringe at your gross misreading, he says ausTRIan you dumb amerimutt tranny. Australia - NZ Österreich - Bayern See the point he’s making?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 06:12:20 2019 No.12770962 >>12770586 He probably got that from the Golden Dawn Party. They want to exterminate the Turks in that region. Their anthem is literally the Horst Wessel Lied in Greek. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNCOSLR3v-I

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 06:14:19 2019 No.12770969 File: 73 KB, 675x592, t.boomer.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >The gun owners of NZ are a bunch of beaten, miserable baby boomers Based zoomer bringing the truth to light, was this guy a 4channeler by any chance?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 06:17:17 2019 No.12770975 >>12770455 >>12770463 he's a white dude in Oceania claiming non-Europeans have no business living in Europe or culturally European nations self aware my ass

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 06:18:12 2019 No.12770977 >>12770882 >implying /pol/ if you actually believe that the cesspool you crawled out of is representative of imageboard culture as a whole you're at least as much of a retard as le Doomguy mosque shooter

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 06:18:19 2019 No.12770978 >>12770477 you missed the best part dude, he actually says he's an ECO-fascist

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 06:18:42 2019 No.12770979

>>12770256
>muh birthrates
Imagine, this whole thing could have been prevented if this idiot had only read a book/paper on the relationship between birthrates and wealth. It's somewhat fascinating to see normies try to deal with his accelerationism and nitpicking what parts of the manifesto to believe based on their own beliefs but overall it's a shit tier manifesto without any value. The only thing making it different from some random shitpost is that it was written by a terrorist.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 06:19:01 2019 No.12770981 >>12770958 You're right, my bad. In my defense, it is an easy mistake given he was talking about Australia in the same sentence.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 06:19:06 2019 No.12770982 >>12770958 Still a very ignorant opinion that shows he never got into the southern german culture at a level deeper than Weißbier und Oktoberfest. The ultimate "Let me tell you about your country"

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 06:23:42 2019 No.12770989 >>12770663 >>12770665 And what more, NZ doesn't have a problem with muslims.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 06:25:28 2019 No.12770995 File: 45 KB, 320x309, ver2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12770838 that's what it used to be, but pic related applies as usual by now the vast majority of /pol/ is genuine shit for brains

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 06:26:58 2019 No.12770997 >>12770808 It's your brain on "we and them" mentality overdrive.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 06:29:06 2019 No.12771003

>>12770714
Should be noted that Atomwaffen is connected to ONA via their association with The Temple of Blood, an American ONA offshoot that offers a much less structured system than that of the mainline order and is almost entirely devoid the original's intellectual and artistic temperament. The ToB is also also likely an operation run by the same people who are responsible for The Rural People's Party who are/wear in turn sympathetic to and in contact with the Government of North Korea. This particular operation comes across as a useful idiot factory, likely federal, to me. I suspect if there is ONA influence it is indirect and via ToB, and, although they have been producing a synthesis, I would suspect the direct influence on the shooter was most likely Siege. The ONA values manipulating others in to conducting attacks rather than doing it themselves.

I have seen people mention that the shooter also spent a lot of time in Pakistan with Nizari, which is interesting considering the supposed British Intel connection, but not a lot of follow up on that thread.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 06:29:19 2019 No.12771004 >>12770989 Not defending the shooting here, but one of the mosques he targeted has been involved in producing extremists.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 06:30:52 2019 No.12771007 >>12770995 Stop posting that cringey image.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 06:32:11 2019 No.12771009 >>12770440 >muh building

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 06:32:26 2019 No.12771010 >>12771003 >The Rural People's Party who are/wear in turn sympathetic to and in contact with the Government of North Korea The DPRK funds a white supremacist group? Why?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 06:33:25 2019 No.12771014 File: 148 KB, 500x500, 664.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12771007

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 06:37:10 2019 No.12771024

>>12770546
>white power gesture
Jesus Christ. The media feels the need to immediately vilify everything it doesn't understand. Like a toddler who thinks brussel sprouts are evil. I'm actually amazed at how using such an innocuous gesture he's managed to expose their idiocy. Their processors overload. True Derridean deconstruction right there.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 06:37:28 2019 No.12771028 >>12771004 sauce?

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 06:38:13 2019 No.12771030

>>12771004
One of the mosques he first thought about targeting had shared some sharia tier video on Facebook, but he then picked two others because he wanted more targets. I'm not defending islamic extremism but someone sharing a video on Facebook, or even sympathizing with extremists, does not mean a country have a problem with said extremists. If it did almost every country in the world would have a white people problem considering the scattered support the retard this thread is about have gained. I don't think Australia (or NZ) have a problem with eco-fascist extremists just because this one terrorist.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 06:38:32 2019 No.12771033 >>12770882 I can guarantee you didn't browse this website before 2015.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 06:39:26 2019 No.12771037 >>12770546 Why is he dressed like some kind of monk?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 06:41:15 2019 No.12771040 >>12771037 He's trying to show off his hourglass figure

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 06:41:18 2019 No.12771041 >>12771024 Ironic white power gesturing is still white power gesturing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 06:41:50 2019 No.12771044 >>12770808 "Happenings" are a core part of /pol/.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 06:42:09 2019 No.12771046 File: 190 KB, 901x600, 1552732929044.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So many weakling fags in this thread, I have no choice but to post this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 06:42:52 2019 No.12771049 >>12771037 That's the prison uniform or something.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 06:43:11 2019 No.12771050

>>12771003
ONA is becoming one of the more genuinely dangerous groups. They are everywhere on /pol/ and /x/ (and on here sometimes). Anytime you see someone posting "read siege" stuff or the fashwave propaganda with skullmasks, they are either an ONA puppet or ONA. There is a thread over on kiwifarms documenting all these guys. It pisses me off that they've been relegated by the media and the left as nazis foremost, when the ONA have done similar stuff with islamic terrorism like myatt. It's only a matter of time until the ONA switch things up and start attacking under the false flag of some other extremist group like antifa, which ONA have said they may do. Such a tactic would work in riling people up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 06:46:05 2019 No.12771059 File: 32 KB, 413x549, finger-hole-game.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12771041 I thought he was playing the hole game. Turns out it's an actual white power gesture lol It's still funnier to believe he's just getting us good

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 06:47:10 2019 No.12771061 >>12771059 what a stupid thing to become a white power gesture.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 06:47:48 2019 No.12771063

>>12771010
Been a while since I was reading up on this rabbit hole, but I think they ( the Koreans) were unaware that the group they were associating with had other identities and dropped them when they realized they were operating out of a trailer park. I to be clear I didn't say they funded them, I think the North Koreans were just, at least on the surface (which is the only info we have access to), happy to use them as propaganda back home. "Look at how even in America they are beginning to acknowledge the glory of Dear Leader .etc".

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 06:48:28 2019 No.12771067

>>12771030
>I'm not defending islamic extremism but someone sharing a video on Facebook, or even sympathizing with extremists, does not mean a country have a problem with said extremists
Maybe not now, but as someone said in a post yesterday there is a world of difference between Islam and these ecoterrorists in terms of support and the future. Ecoterrorists don't have the equivalent of a public church or support from political states. With the way things are going, the far right extremists will likely get cracked down on (which I have no problem with, as many of them are nutjobs). But places like that mosque will still be proselytizing 40 years from now, and if places like France and England are any indication, will have grown much larger. Are you ok with such a future?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 06:56:09 2019 No.12771096 >>12770808 It's war.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 06:59:30 2019 No.12771105

>>12771050
Sure but there are layers and the outer layers are most likely things like the creation of "useful idiot factories". I if you read their earliest public release, NAOS, you realize it is a sacralized step-by-step guide to forming autonomous cells, with you at the center pulling the strings (in theory). Even when they bring up the necessity of culling they encourage manipulating others in to doing your work for you, or joining mainstream organizations like army/police where a killing can be legally justified. Walking in to a building an shooting it up fits the bill of a patsy not someone seriously committed to walking their particular initiatic path. Not that they could not be involved in an event like that in some manner though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 06:59:41 2019 No.12771107 >>12771050 heidegger should be banned desu

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:03:13 2019 No.12771119

>>12771067
>Are you ok with such a future?
I'm not. I'm just saying that muslim immigration is not a problem in NZ specifically (in contrast to some European countries where it undeniably have caused actual, ongoing conflicts) so even if shooting up a mosque were a viable solution to it this retard did not solve his countries problem.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:04:24 2019 No.12771121

>plans to be left out in 27 years
>in NZ
Should have picked up a law book. One premeditated murder is a mandatory life sentence with a minimum of 17 years served before a parole board will look at you. People who have killed one person with premeditation have been sentenced to 17 years before parole, and then had it bumped up to 20 years before parole when they appealled.
Even if he could convince a parole board he didn't mean it, he'll have to wait til he's dead for 400 years for them to look at his case again.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:04:38 2019 No.12771122 >>12771096 No it's not. It's a few empathy deficient nutjobs lashing out, retaliating and repeatedly harming innocents.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:07:36 2019 No.12771127 >>12770256 It's so repetitive and full of typos. He probably wrote that thing the days before the attack.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:08:26 2019 No.12771132 >>12771121 He thinks that people will see the error of their ways and let him go like how Mandela was considered a terrorist under Apartheid but afterwards was considered an hero.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:13:20 2019 No.12771140

>>12771132
NZ only got rid of hanging in 1989 because the mandatory life sentences were going some of the harshest in the world and mean life in most cases. If anything changes in the law after this case, it'll be bring back the noose not let my people go.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:14:29 2019 No.12771142 >>12771127 He did. It says he had a 240 page book written, but he deleted it and wrote this in two weeks to replace it. Probably for the best as far as making it worth reading, but the lack of proofreading is inexcusable.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:19:23 2019 No.12771156 File: 393 KB, 567x430, dfw.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12770440 >first page >wikipedia link

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:20:07 2019 No.12771159 >>12771050 Is there real evidence for what you're saying or is this speculation?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:20:19 2019 No.12771160 >>12771127 that's literally what he says

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:29:07 2019 No.12771178 >>12770256 you'r thinking style over substance.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:29:18 2019 No.12771179 >>12770641 >where abortions outnumber live births gonna need a source on that one champ

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:34:17 2019 No.12771183 >>12770711 you are quintessentially a jew. congratulation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:35:04 2019 No.12771185 Seriously though why did the worshiper say "Hello Brother" to the shooter? He didn't think it was weird the guy had a gun and was menacingly approaching him?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:35:15 2019 No.12771187 File: 249 KB, 466x660, 1489715813327.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12770256 What a philosophic unsophisticate. Thinks only in memes. This is the state of modern thinking

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:36:55 2019 No.12771191 >>12770641 Yeah the west is degenerate as shit but its the only place with white people so by default worth saving. I mean do you really want to live in a nation of nothing but swarthy aggressive hook nosed Arabs? Or emotionless worker drone gooks?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:37:43 2019 No.12771195 >>12771185 last hope appeal to common humanity?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:37:45 2019 No.12771196 >>12770267 We're looking for something philosophic valid or even a bit developed. This is pathetic.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:38:04 2019 No.12771198

>>12770795
I’ll never understand this way of thinking. You clearly don’t actually believe in god and Jesus, because if you did you wouldn’t be putting the white race over them, so what is the logic here? I can’t imagine living with the cognitive dissonance that’s caused by modeling your life after a religion while not actually believing what it says. Do you pray? Do you worship?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:38:09 2019 No.12771199 >>12771187 ironic

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:38:46 2019 No.12771202 >>12771185 Maybe he was truly enlightened. After all, getting shot is a spook.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:39:11 2019 No.12771203 >>12771185 He probably tried to talk him out of it. Calling someone your brother is a pretty good humanizing move. Actually pretty smart, though it obviously didn't work.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:39:20 2019 No.12771204 >>12770711 Bitter fox and grapes. Ressentiment as Nietzsche said.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:39:43 2019 No.12771206 >>12771191 sadly, this

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:39:49 2019 No.12771207 He needed to come up with something that wasn't >I needed to go somewhere with a high score smaller than Port Arthur Strip away all the idiocy and memes and that's the reason, not being white but being a gamer

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:40:01 2019 No.12771208 >>12770440 Reddit spacing and low IQ stylometry. This is atrocious and cringeworthy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:40:59 2019 No.12771211 >>12771207 ?? hes in the top 5 highest death toll mass shootings in history dude

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:42:41 2019 No.12771216 >>12771211 Not even. Bath school attack, Breivik, Las Vegas A lot more that I'm not thinking of too. That's just off the top of my head.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:45:53 2019 No.12771227 >>12771211 >>12771211 That's not being #1 anywhere. He wasn't going to be #1 at home, in the US, in Europe, or anywhere that isn't a peaceful backwater.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:46:05 2019 No.12771229 >>12771185 obviously appealing to some kind of empathy that the shooter obviously completely lacks

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:47:16 2019 No.12771233 >>12771216 >>12771227 yeah ok hes tied at number 8, nothing really to scoff at

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:47:37 2019 No.12771236

>>12771187
>pic
When is /lit/ going realize Rand is right about literally everything and you can see everything Rand is not in this sad joke of a man? What else do you think would happen when you purposefully degenerate philosophical development in the minds of our young dear elites?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:47:45 2019 No.12771237 >>12770711 You better not call all white women whores and in the same post say that you care about Christianity. Jesus loved even Mary Magdalene, whats your excuse?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:49:10 2019 No.12771244 >>12771185 Have you even watched the video? Nobody said that. Wikipedia are just being lefties.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:49:24 2019 No.12771246 >>12771233 Yeah, try explaining that is a special place to a gamer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:50:17 2019 No.12771249 >>12771227 He killed 49, that would be the deadliest mass shooting in Australian history if it were to happen here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:51:48 2019 No.12771253 >>12771233 >Look, Ma, I came in joint eighth! These spergers are annoyed they're tied at number eight for everything in life.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:53:00 2019 No.12771257 >>12771244 I watched the video and one guy says that line when the shooter first enters the church, right before he starts shooting

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:53:01 2019 No.12771256 >>12771253 50 people is a lot of people for one man to kill, with nothing but a rifle

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:53:05 2019 No.12771258 >>12771237 They won't sleep with him though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:54:02 2019 No.12771261 >>12771257 but he started shooting before he even entered the church? he killed like 2 people with a shotgun before he was even in the mosque

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:56:53 2019 No.12771263 >>12770978 People are all over this, muddying the water even here on lit. He wasn't an ecofascist but what does truth matter anymore

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:57:54 2019 No.12771265

>>12771249
Port Arthur was only so deadly because it's remote, peaceful, and was full of people on a day off. You need enough people but not the usual security you get anywhere that has already had an attack.
Pull a gun replica near Port Arthur now and you'll be arrested before they see the orange tip, and wind up going to jail anyway. Most of the guns he couldn't get in Australia, and armed response units would have taken him down for walking around like that in any city used to violence. He might get a few lucky shots off, but not two mosques or schools or any population dense place worth of bodies.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 07:58:07 2019 No.12771266 >>12771061 Rogan was wrong, and Poole is now fully exposed

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:00:17 2019 No.12771269 >>12771263 > In the manifesto he states that he was previously a "communist", an "anarchist", and a "libertarian", but then turned to "racist" views and became an "eco-fascist" concerned with global warming.[47][48][49]

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:00:53 2019 No.12771271 >>12771265 dude you could literally drive out to lakemba and easily be within 5 minutes of 3 different mosques, not to mention hundreds of potential targets on the street source: live in sydney

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:02:16 2019 No.12771274 >>12771256 I'm sure he's thinking that too. Until the next guy, then he'll be pissed he's joint ninth or something.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:03:07 2019 No.12771278 >>12771263 He explicitly says he was and talks about ecofascism multiple times in the manifesto.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:03:27 2019 No.12771281 >>12771261 6:35 in the video >>12771263 It's in his manifesto. And it didn't read like a joke. Maybe it was one, who knows.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:04:56 2019 No.12771285 File: 10 KB, 200x200, yikes.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >The manifesto is riddled with references to 4chan memes, and urges people who agree with the shooting to make more memes. Damn, that is just so cringey.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:05:30 2019 No.12771286 >>12771041 >>12771059 >>12771061 >>12771266 I bet you brainlets also think the shooter is a supporter of pewdiepie and candace owens

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:05:47 2019 No.12771288 >>12771271 You know Lakemba police station is used to being shot at right? They will fire back before you get that far.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:06:28 2019 No.12771290 >>12771274 you dont think breivik will be overtaken one day? still impressive

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:10:10 2019 No.12771299 >>12771290 I'm sure some sperger gamer will find the next island with low security and high population someday when they need to feel like he's #1 in something and fails at everything else, yes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:10:53 2019 No.12771301 >hopes his attack will escalate the 2nd amendment debate in the US to the point of civil war >implying Americans give a shit what happens in New Zealand

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:11:43 2019 No.12771305

>>12771288
we're not talking about targeting a police station tho? response times are still a thing and it takes a while for people to realize whats even going before they call police, a lot won't even notify authorities but just get the hell out of there

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:12:07 2019 No.12771306 >>12770882 Maybe you should fuck off since you need a safe space for your trash ideology

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:12:40 2019 No.12771308 >>12771301 I think he was actually trying to help the right wing with that by sort of false flagging. "I WANT you to ban the guns." He probably wouldn't include in his manifesto what he actually wants to happen.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:13:38 2019 No.12771312

>>12771301
It will generate more tension in the west, won't be surprised if there are some revenge attacks from the Muslim community, they almost always react to any slight attack against them, its really unlike any other group. Just look at the Cronulla riots.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:14:06 2019 No.12771315 >>12771179 1/4 of pregnancies end in surgical abortions. The morning after pill no doubt dwarfs that number.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:15:43 2019 No.12771322 >>12771236 Not when it is infested with /pol/ echoesposters and r/philosophy commies

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:16:08 2019 No.12771325 >>12771305 You picked a bad area, because that police station took on DK's boys who made five witnesses go into protection and still killed in singled digits. If you're a gamer looking to shoot fish in a barrell on God mode, Lakemba is not the place.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:16:39 2019 No.12771326 >>12771281 >6:35 in the video You can't really tell who says it, for all we know the guy saying "hello brother" was talking to another Muslim in the entry hall.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:18:13 2019 No.12771330 >>12771024 >The media feels the need to immediately vilify m8, if anyone's vilifying the gesture, it's him, by associating it with an actual villainous act.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:19:30 2019 No.12771334 >>12771325 I know about the DK hit, but that was poorly planned by lebo retards, on a fucking police station, not an unarmed large gathering of civilians. This attack was well planned, well prepped and well armed, with easy targets.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:19:50 2019 No.12771337

>>12770808
they genuinely have never spoken to a muslim in their lives and their world view is based around screencaps of news stories from breitbart on /pol/

the craziest thing about the killings is imagining all the experiences the people who had been shot had, from being born to that very moment where they were killed unexpectedly by some subhuman low IQ /pol/tard

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:20:18 2019 No.12771338 >>12771326 The guy turns to the shooter and yells it pretty loudly, which would fit the distance between the two. But in the end the quality of the recording is too shit to say with 100% certainty.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:22:03 2019 No.12771344 >>12770890 underrated

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:22:21 2019 No.12771345 >>12771334 You mean, he was looking to shoot fish in a barrell? Yeah. Which is why Lakemba won't work. He couldn't risk "only" getting 34 deaths, no matter how many casualties. That is still second place.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:22:59 2019 No.12771349 >>12771325 They shouldn't have stolen his bananas.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:25:01 2019 No.12771354 >>12771349 Kek'd desu

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:26:20 2019 No.12771356 >>12771096 Literally no muslim terrorist attack in New Zealand in history. It's a war, a war between normal society and mutt white-supremacist subhumans.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:27:34 2019 No.12771357 >>12770969 https web archive org web 20190315031654 https 8ch net pol res 12916717 html

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:27:47 2019 No.12771358

>>12771345
Why not? He did the whole hit in like 5 minutes and fucked around as well shooting pellets up the street, as if trying to draw attention. It doesn't seem unrealistic to do this in Lakemba, only the you might get shot at because everybody has a gun around there, then again, he did get shot at by somebody at the second mosque he hit, apparently.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:28:48 2019 No.12771361 >>12771338 Ye it was a bit louder which would fit the distance between the two, but the quality is so poor, I can't really tell if anyone turns around.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:29:02 2019 No.12771362

>>12771337
I interact with them daily (I live in between two cities with very large Muslim populations), and most are perfectly fine people. Those who care about individuals in what is fundamentally a clash of civilizations are fools with their heads in the sand.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:30:08 2019 No.12771365

>>12771183
But Jews are racists who support an ethnostate. Don't you have more in common with them?
>>12771204
Are you really suggesting that western women post-1968 aren't whores in general? I don't really blame them. The birth control pill was invented by men.
>>12771237
>During the Middle Ages, Mary Magdalene was conflated in western tradition with Mary of Bethany and the unnamed "sinful woman" who anoints Jesus's feet in Luke 7:36–50, resulting in a widespread but inaccurate belief that she was a repentant prostitute or promiscuous woman.[4][2]
Not all whores are repentant. And recognizing a whore as a whore doesn't mean you hate her for being a whore. Do you believe that any criticism of women is hatred? Are you a liberal or communist by any chance? Are you a woman?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:30:21 2019 No.12771366 >>12771122 What you refer to as empathy is so consciously structured that it's meaningless. You're just feeling with an agenda, and it isn't even genuine feeling.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:31:54 2019 No.12771371 >>12770256 It was very kosher

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:32:44 2019 No.12771374 >>12771237 Christ can redeem even the most despicable, but I am not Christ.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:33:00 2019 No.12771375 >>12770347 Unironically having 5 white kids though.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:33:27 2019 No.12771377

>>12771362
Depends on the "Muslims" you're talking about, the mostly westernized ones who go out clubbing but mumble a fews word about Allah at their wedding? Yeah they don't give a shit. The ones who devoutly follow the creed and attend Mosque? Yeah they all secretly want Islam to dominate and support most terrorist attacks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:34:25 2019 No.12771380 >>12771361 The guy on the left turns to the shooter and walks a bit towards him I think. When the shooter goes into the mosque, the position of the corpse suggests he turned towards him as well. But again, hard to say for certain.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:35:33 2019 No.12771384

>>12771362
>Those who care about individuals in what is fundamentally a clash of civilizations are fools with their heads in the sand.
So basically all of western civilization any most of everyone else who's been subsequently westernized.

Individualism is THE defining trait of modernity.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:35:40 2019 No.12771385 >>12771366 all feeling is mediated by intellect, brainlet-kun

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:37:19 2019 No.12771391 >>12771385 I think that's his point

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:37:42 2019 No.12771392

>>12771374
This poster isn't the anon you were responding to, by the way.

I think it might be uncharitable to even call white women whores. A lot of prostitutes resort to that profession out of economic necessity because they're from poor countries with no other option. White women don't even get paid for it. They don't have that excuse.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:39:05 2019 No.12771396 >>12771385 Empathy is a learned trait. Young children and newborns do not posses it. Many do not learn it at s young age or are simply biologically incapable of learning it. Make of that what you will.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:42:33 2019 No.12771406 >>12771396 Everything is a learned trait, it doesn't mean there isn't any sort of an intrinsic trait there, you may however encourage certain traits.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:44:20 2019 No.12771412

>>12771365
>women don't want to sleep with me1 they are whores1 all women are this tumblr strawman i have in my head1

You losers are so see through that it's painful. I don't even give a shit if you want to mock them. Most people in general are morons but the ressentiment you hold is just so see through it hurts and makes me cringe.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:44:33 2019 No.12771414

>>12771377
I've met many different kinds of Muslims (one of the cities has a large number of NOI members), some more pious than others, and I've seen every few events that would make me dislike them. But the process that puts us in conflict is cold and impersonal. Individuals are part of it, but what is at stake is greater than that any individual.

That's where I really disagree with this man and the white power crowd in general. They just want to lavish white bodies with comfort and provide for them opportunities to dominate the other. I'm more interested in protecting the non-corporeal aspects of civilization.

>>12771384
It's fair to say modernity was a mistake. Even Pico bent his knee to Savonarola in the end.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:44:57 2019 No.12771417 >>12771412 You too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:46:36 2019 No.12771424 >>12771014 we're not in jp

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:47:35 2019 No.12771427

>>12771385
I agree. But those who trot out the term "empathy" see it as the inherent quality that makes them better and more compassionate than their opposition, but that's delusion. Their opposition simillarly feels with an agenda, but it's for different targets.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:47:39 2019 No.12771428 >>12770664 you should see the andrew yang retards on twitter right now jumping on the acc bandwagon without the slightest idea of what that even means

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:48:55 2019 No.12771432

>>12771391
I'm pretty sure he claims that empathy isn't a genuine feeling because it is consciously structured.
>>12771396
empathy is a fairly complex problem: as a young child you learn to mirror what grown-ups are doing, as you approach puberty you learn to simulate what might be going on inside their heads in specific situations, and as you approach adulthood you figure out how to model other peoples internal emotional world as a totality... but it only 'works' because all of those levels are real. Other people do act in a way that can be emulated, and they do have an internal world that can be understood and interacted with.
To argue that empathy isn't real because it only appears in a differentiated, self-aware form at a later developmental stage is just fucking stupid.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:50:09 2019 No.12771436

>>12771414
Individuals who are deeply invested in a community and ideology are apart of that stake, just because some have westernized and absorb into other subcultures and communities doesn't mean most haven't stayed within their already prestablished culture. I've just recently left a heavily Muslims area (80ish%) where I had been living for two years and had many acquaintances who were Muslims, so I like to think I have a fairly good understanding of western Muslims. They'll be friendly but at the end of the day they have their ideology and know what their endgame is.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:50:20 2019 No.12771438 >>12770664 Nick Land didn't invent Accelerationism.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:50:22 2019 No.12771439 File: 64 KB, 211x215, 1527996792840.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12771424 and an okay sign isn't a hate symbol

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:51:03 2019 No.12771441

>>12771432
>I'm pretty sure he claims that empathy isn't a genuine feeling because it is consciously structured.
I think it's constructed in a very cynical, politically motivated manner (particularly when it's done by leftists). Genuine wasn't the right word, but that was more of a response to rhetorical purpose of trotting out the term.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:51:17 2019 No.12771444

>>12771414
>They just want to lavish white bodies with comfort and provide for them opportunities to dominate the other.
Mainstream left wing does the same thing with non-whites, and its much more widespread with institutional power, yet you aren't complaining about that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:52:32 2019 No.12771448 >>12771428 A large amount of pine tree twitter and alt rightists who match up to the retard in the OP are part of the "yang gang". Once the media figures out the connection, Yang is finished.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:53:03 2019 No.12771449 >>12770533 No, Sam Hyde was sincere

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:53:11 2019 No.12771450

>>12771432
>empathy is a fairly complex problem: as a young child you learn to mirror what grown-ups are doing, as you approach puberty you learn to simulate what might be going on inside their heads in specific situations, and as you approach adulthood you figure out how to model other peoples internal emotional world as a totality...

People without empathy can do those things too. "Empathy" does exist but what it is changes from person to person.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:55:58 2019 No.12771457 >>12771427 No, you don't need an agenda to feel empathy for innocent people getting gunned down. You could be completely anti-immigration and still find this horrible. See the beginning of this reply chain.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:56:51 2019 No.12771461 >>12770641 I think you're overreacting a bit there bud.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:57:04 2019 No.12771462 >>12771441 I don't see how the description of 'nutjob without empathy' is a cynical, politically motivated category, all that's politically motivated is the way in which it is directed..

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 08:58:23 2019 No.12771465

>>12771428
Yeah. The word has been taking off the last few weeks among people with zero clue what it even means, and this connection with this mass shooting has just accelerated it.

>>12771448
There's a significant number of people who are purposefully trying to damage his reputation mixed among those who genuinely support him. I've seen a couple articles from the media that have already taken note of this, and they didn't seem to hold it against Yang.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:00:34 2019 No.12771472

>>12771450
sure. there's another side to empathy that's equally important. by understanding other people you form a relationship with them. you have to decide in what manner you should interact with the inner worlds that you have discovered outside of yourself. how you do that is an ethical problem, and doing so well is also generally described as 'having empathy'.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:00:51 2019 No.12771475 >>12771465 >and this connection with this mass shooting has just accelerated it. What if that was the real accelerationism?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:02:26 2019 No.12771478 >>12771185 probably thought he was a fellow jihadi

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:03:47 2019 No.12771484 >>12771475 What if the real accelerationism was the friends we met along the way?

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:03:58 2019 No.12771486

>>12771444
>Mainstream left wing does the same thing with non-whites, and its much more widespread with institutional power, yet you aren't complaining about that.
The left as we know it is a very is a fairly ideologically diverse coalition of people holding fairly different beliefs. It's unfair to make such broad claims about their beliefs. I think if the left has a general ideology, it is to ensure that all bodies receive the appropriate amount of comfort under the banner of "humanity." How they wish to achieve this would bring a wide variety of answers from them too, and while I'm sure there are some among them who would like to see some bodies ultimately more comfortable than others, I don't think they're significant in numbers or influence.

but this thread isn't about leftists, it's a bout a a shallow white nationalist and his dumb beliefs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:04:41 2019 No.12771487 >>12770546 >>12771024 i'm surprised /pol/ hasn't started using corporate logos and media to """whistle-blow""" or whatever, at this point they can basically redefine anything to mean anything they want

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>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:05:45 2019 No.12771491 >>12771487 They did do that. They tried turning google into an ethnic slur for black people a few years ago.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:06:31 2019 No.12771494

>>12771457
I think their point is that the empathy of lefties is always directed in a political manner. A lot of far rightists on /pol/ are vicious dumb cunts, but normie cons, tradcons, and others that aren't on far right (but are called fascists but mainstream leftists) generally are not and you can find them decrying attackers and empathy for victims in both far rightist shootings like this as well as islamist attacks. The left however always reacts in a manner that has no consistency in the alleged "empathy." Take a look at any major Islamist attack from the last few years. The empathy immediately shifts from the non-Muslim victims to Muslims in general. But if an extremist white guy on /pol/ does something? It's time to blame white people in general. Or guns. Or something else that fits in with left wing ends.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:06:47 2019 No.12771495 Not going to lie, I felt pretty excited watching the video.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:08:20 2019 No.12771501 >>12770461 Weird that he doesn't mention Jews in the 71 pages.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:08:22 2019 No.12771502 >>12771486 >I don't think they're significant in numbers or influence. You're either got your head stuck in the sand, or you are being disingenuous. This stuff is everywhere in the media, in academia, in HR, and it's spreading.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:08:28 2019 No.12771504 ITT discord trannies trying to use midwit dissociation propaganda

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:08:40 2019 No.12771505 >>12771462 Because their feeling of empathy is politically motivated to being with, any use or invocation of it is also going to be political.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:09:06 2019 No.12771507 File: 69 KB, 700x420, 616f11a8-7941-4de6-84e8-3497e5d23f9d-2060x1236.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12771486 If the left has a general ideology, it is to ensure that there are as many bodies as possible.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:09:19 2019 No.12771508 >>12771494 And that double standard does more to radicalize people than any of the scapegoats they are currently going after in the aftermath of this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:09:38 2019 No.12771510 >>12771495 Counter-Terrorists win

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:10:12 2019 No.12771513 >>12771494 get off the internet centrist

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:10:12 2019 No.12771514 >>12771059 The funny thing is this gesture, in Brazil, is synonymous with a butthole. A literal, dirty, stinky butthole.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:11:24 2019 No.12771517 >>12771486 >The left as we know it is a very is a fairly ideologically diverse coalition lmao

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:11:25 2019 No.12771518

>>12771185
If you're standing in a dark hallway and looking out into a bright street, you're not going to be making out every fine detail of that person's attire. I imagine, as a silhouette, combat gear doesn't look that different from Muslim religious dress. As for the guns, well... They're not the sort of thing most people would be familiar with in NZ. You ever look at something struggling to work out what it was, and then your brain suddenly made sense of it and it became obvious? Dude in the doorway probably didn't expect guns, so his brain was seeing something else in the shooter's hands. Also the approach wasn't menacing, he walked up like it was the most normal thing in the world.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:13:09 2019 No.12771527 >>12771505 fuck off with that foucaultian bullshit. everyone has political views, that doesn't mean that their words can't transcend the political every once in a while.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:13:36 2019 No.12771530

>>12771502
>This stuff is everywhere in the media, in academia, in HR, and it's spreading.
They're for the most part just egalitarians using intense language to gain attention and feel radical. If you've ever been around the actual anti-egalitarian groups that are associated with the broader left, you'll know the difference.

There's a difference between a lecturer telling you about deconstructing whiteness and a 5%er giving you a lecture about Yakub. I've experienced both.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:14:05 2019 No.12771531

I don't know how sunk in your own worldview you have to be to actually think you are going to start a global race war by doing some basic tribal revenge killing. Why the fuck don't these absolute madman target political or business figures? Electrical grids or important buildings? Imagine if Osama's master plan was just to shoot up some random fucking mcdonalds.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:17:31 2019 No.12771542 >>12771517 I don't agree with much of what he said but he is right that communists, soc dems, neolibs, etc. are all extremely different.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:23:37 2019 No.12771557 File: 447 KB, 725x468, xcst4kzcmcm21.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] He posted on 8ch's /pol/. http://archive.is/AlIX8

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:25:04 2019 No.12771559 >>12771531 They're too cowardly to go after anyone or anything with actual security.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:26:16 2019 No.12771564

>>12770256
It's because retards like this are just low IQ. Killers like Ted K at least went after vaguely political targets and put some thought into their methods. Dumbass mass shooters that just want to mow down brown people aren't going to have anything interesting to say.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:26:33 2019 No.12771565

>>12771531
If you actually read his manifesto he seems pretty down to earth.

A bit which struck me is that he compares himself to Mandela .He expects to spend a few decades in prison with the hope that in the eventuality of a race war he will be liberated and hailed a hero.

Also he actually does advocate for the killings of Merkel, Sadiq Khan, and (for some reason), Erdogan.

Granted some parts of the manifesto were pure /pol/faggotry, such as the part about taking back Constantinople.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:27:05 2019 No.12771567 >>12771414 >>12771486 >bodies >bodies >bodies This word gives me diarrhea. It's even worse than "narrative" and "structure" when they're overused by humanities students.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:27:30 2019 No.12771569

>>12771263
>He wasn't an ecofascist but what does truth matter anymore
I fucking hate you bitches who just gloss over things and your first impulse is to prove your superiority to something. Yet people like you can't even do that against a mentally challenged lunatic, and have to scramble together a misinterpretation (because you can't find any glaringly wrong talking points first). So you type some dumbass shit like above. If you thought about the issue even a little, you would realize he claimed to be an ecofacist because HE WANTED TO LOWER THE BIRTHRATES WHICH WOULD THEN CAUSE THE POPULATION TO GROW AT A SLOWER RATE AND FUTHER PRESERVE NATURE.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:28:11 2019 No.12771571 >>12771531 Those people have well trained armed security and would no doubt waste someone like Tarrant very quickly. Like what happened in Texas to the two Jihadis.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:28:57 2019 No.12771575 >>12771542 but they all have been neutralized by intersectional progressives, no left wing organization can survive in 2019 without being either irrelevant or taken over by trannies

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:30:13 2019 No.12771579

>>12771358
Yeah five minutes where you don't have to go through shoppers and cunts who will shoot anyone and where there is no police station and where mosques aren't used to shit starters. Christchurch is not Sydney. If he wanted to shoot fish in a barrell in Sydney he'd be better off going to a lot of other places. It didn't matter to him whether they were Muslim fish or not, it's the numbers.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:31:09 2019 No.12771581

>>12771530
Pro-tip for dealing with people: Don't listen to the words that they say. Instead observe their behavior. Note their facial expressions and body language. Look for tells of deception, artifice, insincerity. Pay attention to their actions and lifestyles, where they sit in a room, how they dress, their posture, and most importantly how they act when they believe they are not being observed. That will give you insight into their souls. What they say is meaningless, except to give clues via verbal affections and tone of voice and where they falter. They can even deceive themselves about what they think and feel to a degree, but their actions are what count. I've never met anyone with as pitch black souls as utterly consumed by superbia as the people in academia who prattled on about equality and their own humility and grace at the greatest volume with the most sophistication and passion. There is no doubt in my mind that these people would murder huge masses of innocent people if they somehow came into power. I believe that is their sole end goal in itself regardless of whatever else they say.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:31:20 2019 No.12771582 >>12770982 Austria and Bavaria is more similar than Bavaria and the rest of Germany, why the fuck are you disagreeing with him when you have zero clue what you're talking about?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:32:07 2019 No.12771583 >>12771438 That's the kind of accuracy he does not give a shit about.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:32:44 2019 No.12771584 >>12771582 But Bavaria and Australia are more similar than Bavaria and Turkey, despite Autralia being a lot further away geographically, wouldn't you agree?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:32:55 2019 No.12771585 >>12771285 The funny thing is it isn't filled with any 4chan memes. He just threw a few shitty memes in there and people are finding any way they can to connect it to 4chan further (even though he actually went on /pol/).

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:33:59 2019 No.12771588 >>12771567 I used the term do describe the prioritization of the corporeal that defines much of politics today. I you should have discerned, I'm not a fan of it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:34:35 2019 No.12771590 >>12770767 He obviously meant it as >Unavoidable: Whether it happens or not is beyond your control >Inevitable: It will happen, no matter what you do What do you gain by refusing to interpret his writing as you'd interpret your own?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:35:00 2019 No.12771591 >>12771527 Maybe you're right, but this isn't one of those cases. This term has gained an almost explicitly political usage. That's what I was commenting on.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:36:52 2019 No.12771596 >>12771584 Yes, I do. Why did you introduce this statement with a conjunction that implies relevance to previously made points?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:37:29 2019 No.12771598 >>12771037 Because he has ascended

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:40:45 2019 No.12771610 >>12770440 >carrying out an attack for fame would be laughable >proceeds to livestream it and fill the video with le epic internet meme references XD lole why do /pol/tards have such poor self awareness?

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:41:00 2019 No.12771611
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It's kinda depressing reading posts from people who just don't get it. I guess Haidt was right when he said that liberals don't possess the full range of moral senses.

God forbid you don't agree with their lame ass analysis of this event, like one you'd get from a CNN commentator or some heavily upvoted reddit comment. Because that means you support this vile act or something.

Ironically you need to listen to Jordan Peterson. Not sure if that will help, though, but you can try.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:43:29 2019 No.12771615 >>12771565 you realize he was just memeing about mandela?

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:46:25 2019 No.12771621

>>12770586
>did this murderer of 49 people, who preached for more violence, expect to get what he wants peacefully?
What do you think?

>>12770767
This is just embarrassing

>>12770871
And this even worse, holy shit

>>12771208
>I for one refuse to structure my essays, to signal my loyalty to my fellow 4channelers

Litlets demonstrating their litlet reading comprehension, is there anything worth reading in this thread?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:46:41 2019 No.12771622 >>12770641 This, the destruction of the West is unironically a good thing for mankind but will suck for us. Good riddance.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:47:07 2019 No.12771624

>>12771611
I've seen lots of dull redditors on /lit/ recently. At least the commies of old were pretentious and not just midwit centrists who are only centrist by their very shallow understanding.

You can always tell a redditor by their prose, it's less about the ideas they express but how they express them and why they express them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:48:18 2019 No.12771630 >>12771611 Has Peterson commented on this yet? because I'm fully expecting a brainlet, CNN commentator tier response from him.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:48:43 2019 No.12771631 >>12771610 >"I did not do X for Y, but for Z." >proceeds to do X >"lol he mustve done it for Y, no other explanation in sight" This thread holy fuckkkkkkkkk

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:49:33 2019 No.12771633 I love how he thinks Muslims are the problem. I think once he meets his Maori or Samoan roommate he's gonna think less Murrican about race and religion.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:49:36 2019 No.12771634

>>12771591
nigga I feel empathy for the poor backward sods who were shot down through no real fault of their own by a self-important anti-reason fucktard, and the same is true for most regular people who hear about this incident, just like it would be if they heard more about muslim terrorism.

no term can be used in an almost explicitly political manner while the lives of normies aren't primarily political.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:49:55 2019 No.12771635 >>12770871 hating brown people is a perfectly sound and internally consistent political view

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:52:01 2019 No.12771639

>>12771630
IDK. But while Memerson's political orientation is neo-liberal (just like reddit and all the chapo "leftists"), he's still a good psychologists and understands these things much better than them.
His mainstream job prevents him from saying too much in the MSM sometimes, but if you watch his lectures you know the guy knows. You can tell the guy experienced depression and alienation first hand.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:53:17 2019 No.12771643

>>12771633
Muslim is code for non-white. The worst thing that can happen to the west is non-whites "assimilating" no one who is actually right wing could have particular vitriol for islam by it's own principles. At worst it's cucked and low IQ, but its evils don't compare to anything in modernity.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:56:04 2019 No.12771656 >>12771633 >once he gets some more anectodal reference he'll see his statistics based reasoning doesnt hold Yeah I'm out. Literally do not have the time to handhold half of you out of some logical misunderstanding. God I hate seeing low IQs on lit

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:56:59 2019 No.12771659

>Spyro taught me Ethno-Nationalism and Fortnite taught me to floss over the corpse of my enemies

We have a comedian here then. Well I do have less doubt of him being a Mossad agent after reading most of his Manifesto although it is still coincidental that this attack occurred within Christchurch which happens to have many strange connections, such as Pizzagate, Freemasons and Mossad agents.

Although if he is not then he did what he thought was right for his people and he is honourable for that, but the actions taken could be strikingly detrimental to our cause.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:57:30 2019 No.12771665

>>12771634
>the lives of normies aren't primarily political.
there is no mode of existence which is completely neutral, and the pressure that identities exert onto society makes life inherently political. What causes you to feel for them is the belief that their suffering was fundamentally unjust.
>>12771643
> no one who is actually right wing could have particular vitriol for islam by it's own principles.
Much of right-wing politics is concerned more with aesthetics than with the actual structure of society. I think that's why there were so many references to minarets in his screed. I think this is something leftists really don't comprehend, and when they try, they dismiss it as mere racism.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:58:24 2019 No.12771668 >>12771041 >hurrdurr irony isn’t even real

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 09:58:55 2019 No.12771670 btw where is the video?

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:00:34 2019 No.12771676

>>12771643
>>12771656
>I don't want to have to talk about Maori violence
>I'll pretend they're not more than half the prison population
Yeah Murricans are used to fat fucks who can't tackle a bus. I get it. You only like talking about the people who use violence you recognize. Not the ones whose actual tribal culture is to make war.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:00:45 2019 No.12771678 >>12771670 You can find it easily on 8ch /pol/

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:02:12 2019 No.12771682 >>12771191 Imagine thinking there is anything good about "white people" in 2019. Arabs and Asians are more moral than Westerners.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:03:50 2019 No.12771687

>>12771665
off by one, satan

yes, existence is inherently distorted by power relationships. no, that does not mean that a person who has no real interest in politics is, first and foremost, a political agent. when regular people feel for the victims of a terror attack they do so not on a political basis, but on a basis of personal kinship and shared humanity.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:04:35 2019 No.12771690
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>>12771059
It's the hand gesture for 'ok.' /pol/ memed the press into thinking that it's a white power gesture, and now I get dirty looks whenever I want to give someone a hand gesture that's basically the equivalent of a thumbs up.

Sad.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:04:42 2019 No.12771691

Will this be broadly categorised as mental illness, much like they do with many Islamist attacks? Not saying this mental illness isn't one dimension of this tragedy. The guy clearly has low levels of empathy, his composure during the event shows it, but it is scary what how a specific set of circumstances can transform an individual. We're all capable of so much evil. Most are incapable of comprehending their own volatility and how under certain circumstances that play into their temperament, it is frightening how susceptible to evil they might be. Will there ever be a coherent conversation on the power of belief and how it leads to praxis? Are polarised groups going to keep treating every massacre as a hot potato they can throw into the lap of their political enemy? Will we ever learn? Pretty pathetic rant I know, but this meme-inspired hyperreal massacre really fucking hit me hard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:05:06 2019 No.12771694 >>12771682 By your retarded standard maybe

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:06:30 2019 No.12771701

>>12771185
>His voice seemed about to crack and the grandmother's head cleared for an instant. She saw the man's face twisted close to her own as if he were going to cry and she murmured, "Why you're one of my babies. You're one of my own children!" She reached out and touched him on the shoulder. The Misfit sprang back as if a snake had bitten him and shot her three times through the chest. Then he put his gun down on the ground and took off his glasses and began to clean them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:07:00 2019 No.12771703 >>12771676 be fair man most of the time they try rocking a bus or some shit they're just drunk and upset, and when they beat on people it's their own. tho yea he's gonna get sat on

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:07:05 2019 No.12771704

>>12771687
They are unironically just NPCs feeling a shallow version of what the herd expects them to believe. They will forget about it once it's socially acceptable to forget about it. There is no "personal kingship" or "shared humanity" amongst golems.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:09:20 2019 No.12771712

>>12771687
>not on a political basis, but on a basis of personal kinship and shared humanity.
Give me a fucking break. When "evil" people get killed (happens all the time, even by US bombs that kill kids), nobody gives a shit.
Of course, who is "evil" and who isn't is determined by politics and ideology.

(I'm not justifying this attack, BTW, because I know you retards cannot into nuance.)

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:09:28 2019 No.12771713 >>12771694 I'm Catholic. Even atheistic/protestant East Asians and Muslims manage to have better moral values than Westerners. There's literally nothing worth saving about our hellholes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:10:22 2019 No.12771716 >>12771704 >if you can make people forget something that means it wasn't genuine at any given point no, it just means they're too stupid to be fully self-aware

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:10:32 2019 No.12771719 >>12771687 The concept of humanity as we now is it was crafted with a great deal of political motivation. the belief in "shared humanity" and the prioritization of the human identity over others political to being with.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:11:50 2019 No.12771722 >>12771713 Like I said by your retarded standard. Of course a religious retard with bronze age moral system thinks other societies with bronze age moral systems are better than modern live and let live liberal societies.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:13:37 2019 No.12771728 >>12771722 >'68-ism is the height of human moral philosophy You're so warped that it's pointless to even engage you. Almost all prior generations in your own society would consider you insane.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:14:37 2019 No.12771730

>>12771716
>if you can make people forget
you aren't making them forget, you are telling them it's socially acceptable to stop larping because it's old news and not related to social capital anymore. Golems do not think OR feel with any sincerity. There is no synergy or between the two or intensity of either. it's all posturing and basic hormonal responses as a response to peer pressure.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:14:38 2019 No.12771731 >>12771722 >Catholic >bronze age moral system Literally pick one.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:14:55 2019 No.12771734

>>12771691
>Will this be broadly categorised as mental illness, much like they do with many Islamist attacks?
Mental illness, plus some quasi-magic evil spirit transmitted by Hitler, which is possessing nationalists in general, who are all potentially dangerous now.

It could spark a more serious debate, but nobody in the mainstream media is willing to talk about the manifesto. So his plan failed completely. Not unexpected, though. Is anybody talking about Ted Kaczynski? Or Elliot? Exactly.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:15:35 2019 No.12771738

>>12771611
jordan peterson basically did this and the ok symbol retroactively means that you support this guy, this is the new political normal and there's nothing you can say against this without being un-personed

there are no sanity checks on progressives so they will push what's been mentioned above with no pushback, probably most mainstream conservatives will bow down and ask for forgiveness on the terms of that narrative

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:16:23 2019 No.12771742

>>12771728
>68ism
Unlike your bronze age horseshit, modern moral systems evolve. People of the past would also think modern technology is witchcraft. Our understanding of the universe has moved on and so has our society. Except for retards like you of course.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:17:18 2019 No.12771746 >>12771742 I wonder how many midwits are going to keep taking the bait

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:17:22 2019 No.12771748 >>12771742 Jesus Fucking Christ go back to your shithole message board on Reddit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:19:59 2019 No.12771760 >>12771742 >modern technology is witchcraft it literally is

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:21:53 2019 No.12771768

>>12771730
stupid people can only think and feel in a somewhat reflected manner or with what you describe as sincerity in a reasonably protected environment is my point. as soon as you pull out the rug of safety from under them they will throw away their beliefs, which only hold a vague importance to them, in favor of following their survival instinct.

what you are doing is projecting that emergency response back onto their normal lives, and denying that they ever had the capacity to act with conviction to begin with, which is just cynical bullshit.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:21:55 2019 No.12771769

>>12771742
>modern moral systems evolve
This is actually part of the problem that makes modernity so unstable. Part of morality should be public in the sense of people knowing what is right or not in order to know what to do. Evolvable systems of morality, which is mostly decreed by leftists in academia isn't public at all. It's built on the average person not knowing what is right or not until they are piled on by the media, twitter mob, or losing their jobs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:22:46 2019 No.12771772 >>12771478 this lol

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:23:39 2019 No.12771776

>>12771734
Absolutely nothing is ever going to stop the importation of more foreigners into Western countries because the ruling class is making too much money off it. They need more bodies in the economy to work for cheap, buy consumer goods, and produce Growth to counteract debts. This speaks to the total moral collapse in our societies and is really why they are not worth saving. Even worse, we turn the (currently far more moral) third world Muslim/Asian/Indio populations into Westernized clowns spouting decolonization rhetoric or whatever that only serves to expand the ruling class's power and keep the system going. The West is a gay vampire.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:24:01 2019 No.12771777 >>12771772 roflmao my man

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:25:36 2019 No.12771782 >>12771777 TOPKEK XD

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:29:33 2019 No.12771812

>>12771734
I meant a discussion around the fact that evil is not necessarily a function of mental illness and that there is a biological component to genocidal predisposition/complicity. And that beliefs can lead to murderous action devoid of mental illness.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:30:15 2019 No.12771820

>>12771768
We are not on the same page. I disagree their condition is primarily influenced by their intelligence. They don't have beliefs, and they don't have a survival instinct. They are genuine insectoids reacting to pheromones. Castes are an existential reality, there is no tabula rasa.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:30:56 2019 No.12771824 >>12771812 In any of us.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:31:06 2019 No.12771827 >>12771769 The reason why the left is dominating the moral discourse is that most of the right wing is wielding the equivalent of sharpened rocks while the left has machine guns.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:36:01 2019 No.12771847

>>12771812
Some people genuinely like war and killing people, the action and the excitement.
There was an article about this, regarding some US soldiers who came from Afghanistan/Iraq and they miss the action.
The psychology of even normal people is more fucked up than we're willing to admit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:37:30 2019 No.12771862 >>12771827 It has more to do with the left's very deep understanding of social and discursive space. Such knowledge allows them to dominate such spaces with ease.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:39:49 2019 No.12771874 >>12771827 Rocks have ends that aren't just for killing. They've historically been used to build things, for one. A machine gun's telos is purely destructive.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:44:14 2019 No.12771902

>>12771827
Well, at the societal level, the left has power and morals are sustained by power. Until someone comes up with a good plan for preventing liberal billionaires from dominating social narratives, buying out the government, etc. then nothing will change.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:46:42 2019 No.12771918 >>12771827 The rumors of their power are greatly exaggerated. They've been in control of all branches of media, schooling, and public discourse for decades and their ideas still haven't won. The right still exists.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:49:55 2019 No.12771939

>>12771902
Spot on. Except I'd call people in power neo-liberals, not leftists. They often use leftist rhetoric, though.
Ironically, they can be defeated by actual leftists aka nationalists. Nationalism can take power from the elites and give it back to the people. But nationalism has its own problems (bad optics, inefficiency...).

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:50:57 2019 No.12771945 >>12770522 >implying chinks are even human

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:51:29 2019 No.12771949

>>12771874
To wring out that stretched metaphor even further. The left has steel reinforced concrete. Not as long living as a brick house, but can be build faster, cheaper and higher.
Update your methods and incorporate the exploding knowledge of our time or die out.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:51:47 2019 No.12771954

>>12771939
Real Leftists (tm) are clients of liberals and in many cases quite literally their kids, who are let out to riot when liberal billionaires want to destroy social structures that are not the market. Current liberal billionaires were Real Leftists by the standards of the political spectrum when they were young college activists.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 10:59:27 2019 No.12771998

>>12771949
>Update your methods and incorporate the exploding knowledge of our time or die out.

Your metaphors are crap. They don't really address what I'm getting at, and you have a terrible understanding of philosophy. The original post you responded to was a major trait of morality (publicity) that is known among ethicists and moral philosophers. Having a shifting sense of morality undermines publicity. It fractures the social order, because no one knows what is right or not. Responding to this by turning morality into a weapon (rocks versus guns metaphor) is exactly the sort of thing I'd expect from modernist trash, and why I responded with the notion of alternate telos of rocks being used for building as opposed to the modernist conception of morality being a destructive power system of control. Your response of shifting the metaphor away from the telos is typical bugman modernism. MacIntyre addresses in this in "After Virtue." Modern theories of morality lack telos/ends. That's what makes them bad. You have nothing. Guy above is right, you're either trolling or stupid.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 11:01:49 2019 No.12772015

>>12771918
It's not about ideas winning/losing. Even if ideas of "the right" are correct it is utterly irrelevant because left-wing media/academia/activists are not engaging in a conflict of ideas but instead are propagandists for views that it has already been decided by billionaires that we ought to hold, indeed the right only serves to reinforce the left, as when they resist the left's high-low coalition the left is aghast at the immorality of it all and uses this resistance as proof that their power needs to be expanded to fight bigotry/hate/islamophobia/homophobia/fossil fuels/whatever. None of these policies need to actually work by any normal person's standard of "working", because the goal is power expansion.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 11:03:54 2019 No.12772031

>>12770256
He apparently wrote the thing in two weeks so I'll have to give him the benefit of the doubt. Still, what he put forth is so tepid and uninspired. It even fails to expand on some of its most major points and comes out as incoherent and ill thought out. Like, he identifies as a eco-fascist but views fucking China as a model state, what am I supposed to take home from that?

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 11:13:50 2019 No.12772092

>>12771998
Man you're such a brainlet. You have the typical right wing american strawman idea of "the left" being nothing but this socialist destructive force, ignoring the liberal ideals that are at the heart of the modern moral landscape. It's true that a lot of the west is demoralized due to the incompetence of the right wing. There is no credible stance for the established against the leftist creative forces. You are blaming other people for your own weakness.

Your moral arguments are just the same old bronze age charlatan pretending to speak for an invisible magic force so he can hand out prescriptive moral tenants that cannot be questioned. Meanwhile the left incorporates actual research, can back up its claims with at least some kind of credible science and spreads its ideas by using the new found knowledge about the human condition. They are not reliant on bronze age, or even stone age narratives that are poorly understood even by their narrators. You have this book full of stories that evolved together with human civilization, but you have no idea HOW they evolved. You don't understand how they work, you just use them like rocks you can throw at people. You're a fucking fossil.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 11:14:16 2019 No.12772094

>>12772031
>he identifies as a eco-fascist but views fucking China as a model state, what am I supposed to take home from that?
What's the problem? China is the most fascist relevant country right now and the only thing they need is more ecology, but that might come at some point. Their one-child policy was already a great example.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 11:18:29 2019 No.12772120

>open thread on /lit/ after pitiful discussion on /pol/ hoping for some actual text analysis
>it's again just people shitflinging about whose ideology is the most virtuous

you guys realize on /pol/ they're making acceelerationism the new meme ideology and they intend it in an even more extreme NRx way without any of the posthumanism? They just think shooting up a mosque and plastering iotbw posters around the city are equatable... meanwhile you're sitting here calling the manifesto cringe and stupid while it's actually influencing a lot of people.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 11:23:15 2019 No.12772149

>>12772092
>brainlet
>makes metaphors comparing morality to weapons
>still doesn't understand publicity and why flaunting it is bad
>thinks you can get ought from is and derive moral philosophy from science
>thinks all non-modern moral systems are from some sort of religious revelation
I'm not the brainlet here. You're literally a moron.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 11:31:26 2019 No.12772183

>>12772149
The metaphor, which you apparently didn't understand was about the tools of the left to argue moral points, not the credibility of one moral system or the other´. You raped that metaphor and I went along with it since you apparently can't think outside of images.

Oughts are meaningless here. Moral systems are just algorithms for constructing societies. Your moral system is just as baseless as all others are, that's why you need to insert an indemonstrable magic authority at the beginning of your logical construct. Maybe that worked in the past when there was no alternative.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 11:36:09 2019 No.12772201

>>12772092
>You have the typical right wing american strawman idea of "the left" being nothing but this socialist destructive force, ignoring the liberal ideals that are at the heart of the modern moral landscape.
I think he does, the idea is that this is not a good thing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 11:36:17 2019 No.12772202 File: 157 KB, 1241x796, example.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12771847 What were these soldiers like before their first deployment?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 11:39:19 2019 No.12772223 >>12772183 This might be the worst post in the history of /lit/. Please actually do some reading on ethics before spouting shit off about the subject.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 11:41:15 2019 No.12772236 File: 72 KB, 450x325, Hiroshima_Street_Scene_with_injured_Civilians.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12772202 Probably normal people, just like your war heroes.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 11:43:28 2019 No.12772253

>>12770565
Elliot was so retarded, autistic, and undeservingly narcissistic which is exactly what made his manifesto funny, his complete lack of self-awareness. It was not deliberate. Normies felll for the king of hellfire Aussie's bantz which blamed Candice Owens and Pewdiepie, they ate it right up. Their self-awareness is not any better than Elliott's. Anyway, Rogers mass shooting was as pathetic as his manifesto and life. The Aussie made a drastic political statement and stuck to the format.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 11:45:45 2019 No.12772265 >>12772253 My Twisted World is really is the culmination of New Sincerity. Something in me thinks DFW would have genuinely like it.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 11:47:15 2019 No.12772273

>>12772183

>The metaphor, which you apparently didn't understand was about the tools of the left to argue moral points, not the credibility of one moral system or the other´

I understood it perfectly, that's why I undermined it with reference to the telos of the tools you reference (successfully undermined, since your response didn't stay on the metaphor's function that you explicitly set up). What you are saying is exactly what Socrates argued about, it's sophistry: winning arguments, not moral truth. It's the view that a moral argument is a weapon.

>You raped that metaphor and I went along with it since you apparently can't think outside of images.

No, I perfectly showed why you don't understand moral philosophy and have never read an ethics book in your life.

>Oughts are meaningless here. Moral systems are just algorithms for constructing societies.

Oughts are meaningless in a discussion about ethics? lmao gotta agree with the other anon above now that you are likely trolling. Absolutely no one outside some hardcore Sam Harris / LessWrong redditor would make this sort of argument.

>that's why you need to insert an indemonstrable magic authority at the beginning of your logical construct.

Did no such thing, in fact I keep pointing out that it is you that keeps saying that non-modern systems of morality must all be grounded in some sort of divine revelation. I pointed you to one well-argued source that wasn't.

Anyway, I'm done here as it is fairly obvious that you are trolling (or stupid).

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 11:47:21 2019 No.12772275 >>12771337 very naive

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 11:51:55 2019 No.12772299

>>12770653
He said it's an offshoot of European powers. Which is true and you have no understanding of history if you think this is not so. All former European colonies which are majority white have very much in common with European culture. Why do you think they speak English, a European language?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 11:54:11 2019 No.12772311 >>12771590 >what do you gain? I was about to write 'a feeling of superiority,' but i already have that, along with most of the human race.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 12:00:17 2019 No.12772346 >>12772120 >people Regressive /pol/ reactionaries aren't people, they're a fucking fungus.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 12:00:51 2019 No.12772351 >>12772236 A war hero is no equivalent to a person who has never been deployed? Unless you mean you're automatically a war hero just for enlisting.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 12:04:27 2019 No.12772376

>>12772273
I could have used swords and lasers, you were just trying to win the argument by raping the metaphor. By the way you can't build houses out of sharpened rocks. At least not better than you can build them out of machine guns.

Most of ethics are horseshit, that's why nobody ever arrived at an objectively right moral system. There is no objective basis for any of them. The moral systems that survive are the moral systems that work at creating stable societies which in turn propagate the moral system. You can philosophize as much as you want, but you will never find the reason behind something that works for pragmatic reasons. Oughts are a human concept. Nature doesn't care.

>I keep pointing out that it is you that keeps saying that non-modern systems of morality must all be grounded in some sort of divine revelation.
I never said such a thing, so I ignored it. This argument was specifically about right wing christian morality and why it cannot compete with modern (predominantly left wing) morality.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 12:06:24 2019 No.12772386 >>12771874 >>12771874 >They've historically been used to build things building are used to discriminate things on the "outside" and keep them marginalized from the "inside", their telos is pure bigotry

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 12:06:24 2019 No.12772388 >>12771337 This is such a stupid post, I can't believe someone would write it here. Even Žižek makes fun of people like you.

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 12:08:42 2019 No.12772396

>>12771918
the left's ideas have "won" on all social issues, they haven't "won" on economics because the left has no economic theory beyond meme-theories, and they can't touch the economy because you can feel the results of touching the economy in like 5 days, but dismantling other parts of society is fine and the results are only truly felt after 1-2 generations, so the left doesn't have to carry the responsibility

Anonymous Sat Mar 16 12:14:22 2019 No.12772426

>>12771337
>they genuinely have never spoken to a muslim in their lives
this is retarded, the shooter was on holidays in pakistan and had a great time, there's a facebook post of the guy there last year

also Varg Vikernes was raised in Iraq for a few years as a kid, this bullshit about travelling or reading making you a good person is retarded beyond comprehension

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 13:21:34 2019 No.12772697 >>12771286 No. Just the sign.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 14:13:11 2019 No.12772930 >>12770975 But the earth is white homeland

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 14:16:36 2019 No.12772944 >>12770742 Weird seemed to me like he was deploying those memes to make you say this and make other think specific thoughts. As if he understood object relations and was triggering you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 14:20:46 2019 No.12772965 >>12770762 Know the future = psycho. Just sayin

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 14:22:49 2019 No.12772974 >>12770580 The satire was used to attempt to de-cathect the reality of these words. The point of comedy

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 14:24:30 2019 No.12772982 >>12771621 The panic, fear and defensive organizations.

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