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I'm generally very awkward around others, and often feel so anxious that I shake and freeze.
I'm also very sexually frustrated, since I'm in my early twenties and never had sex, a girlfriend, nor even kissed.

According to Freud and psychoanalysis, how to stop the repressed sexual frustration from ruining my life? Having sex is not an option.
Masturbation seems to slightly relieve this, but not much.

>> No.12762027
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>>12762019
Sublimate your primitive instinct to reproduce into something more productive and self-validating.

>> No.12762205

>>12762027
Seems reasonable.
Thanks.

>> No.12762284

>>12762019
have sex man
pay for it

>> No.12762394

>>12762027
Here he is, the fabled strawman

>> No.12762509

>>12762019
focus on reducing your lust,
try nofap
focus your attention on something else, realize sex is not important except for reproduction

>> No.12762524
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Freud was a pseud; you know it's true because it rhymes

>> No.12762526

>>12762027
why are Hyde's legs dry like an Auschwitz jew lodger?

>> No.12762622

>>12762524
no it doesn't

>> No.12762638

>>12762622
t. prescripticist cia nigger

>> No.12762668

>>12762019
Freud was indeed a pseud who unironically resented the goyim and also resented his Jewish parents for having eight children and depending on him to support him. Schlomo(freuds real name) would tell you you need psychoanalysis and to suck your fathers cock.

>> No.12762690

>>12762019
>According to Freud and psychoanalysis
Just stop. If you're so frustrated go get a hooker you stupid incel.

>> No.12762771

>>12762019
Freud doesn't know anything.

Try exercise and meditation

>> No.12762795

>>12762509
nofap made me get boners from just looking at random women on the bus.

>> No.12762808

>>12762509
but what is important?

>> No.12762814

There is a lot of Freud hate on this board.
Almost like a repression of the repressed?

>> No.12763024
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>>12762019
Beta

"The most frequent manifestation of the anima takes the form Erotic fantasy. Men may be driven to nurse their fantasy's by looking at film and strip tease shows, or by day dreaming over pornographic material. This is a crude, primitve aspect of the anima, which becomes compulsive only when a man does not sufficiently cultivate his feeling relationships-when his feeling attitude toward life has remained infantile."

- Jung


Be wary anon not to mistake Freud's perverted works for the magnificence of Jung, there was a connection between the two but it did not last.

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>>12762524
ayy

>> No.12763102

>>12762019
Heroin.

>> No.12763140

>>12762019
Well the best way would be to have sex, if not in a real relationship then by prostitute or you could realise the worth within a non sexual life although you would forever be haunted by the fact that you chose this because of your disappointment.

So just get some relationship advice, it sounds like you needed a father figure/good father figure in your life. Just talk to a girl because you know that it doesn't matter and she is just like any other friend but has different interests. The key is to realise that it doesn't really matter so just be nice and grow your confidence, you will find the right woman then.

>> No.12763161
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childhood is idolizing Jung, adulthood is understanding late-stage Freud made much more sense

>> No.12763247

>>12763161
Fucking degenerate. When you say it made so much more sense are you sure that you just couldn't understand Jung as well as were naturally a degenerate so looking at Freud as the norm makes you feel better about yourself?

>> No.12763255

If you have anxiety you're stuck on the anal developmental stage.

t. professional expert phd

>> No.12763267

>>12763247
what do you think Freud says? Civilization and Its Discontents is far more poignant than anything the hippie Jung and his asshole volcanoes wrote. Find me a Jungian concept more important to today's society than death drive.

>> No.12763277

>>12763267
Not that guy but death drive is gobbledigook.

>> No.12763281

>>12763277
read more Lacan

>> No.12763297

>>12763281
oh, it's lacanfag
>inb4 cuck hypothesis

>> No.12763300

>>12763267
>what do you think Freud says? Civilization and Its Discontents is far more poignant than anything the hippie Jung and his asshole volcanoes wrote. Find me a Jungian concept more important to today's society than death drive.

Modern Man in search of a Soul is much more profound and important than any idea of degeneracy that Freud could project onto others.

In regards to a concept I would say the process of individuation or the archetype. Or the collective unconscious or the dream interpretation or the Symbols or the anima. Shall I go on?

All Freud really has is the Shadow.

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>>12763300
>Freud? H-haha, just projection
>oh boy Disney movies!
lol okay, see you when you grow up a little bit dude

>> No.12763446

>>12763332
>>Freud? H-haha, just projection
>>oh boy Disney movies!
>lol okay, see you when you grow up a little bit dude

Freud was molested by his father and has a consistent record of treating any mother son/daughter molestation as reality but whenever one were to claim Father to son/daughter molestation he would almost always claim it as a fantasy or simply the child's imagination. He also apparently got a boner while seeing his mother naked. He then claimed everything leads back to sexuality. If that isn't projection than I don't know what is.

Also did you think Disney when I mentioned archetype? Of course a childlike association for a childlike person.

>lol okay, see you when you grow up a little bit dude

Is that repressed angst of sexual guilt of your fatherly fantasy's projection?

>> No.12763529

>>12762795
Go to bed Houellebecq

>> No.12763542

Both Freud Jung and all "psychoanalysts" have done nothing but pervert traditional psychology of the great traditions of the world. In their distinctly modern myopia, they have thrown the human conscious upon its head. Instead of focusing on the supra-conscious, they focus on the sub-conscious. They can see nothing in man but the most inferior of psychic influences and so, in doing so, have turned the psychology clinic into nothing more than a satanic initiatory rite, wherein the initiate comes to understand the worst aspects of himself, just as his guru did in years past. Psychoanalysis fails both in the realm of modern empirical science from a complete lack of statistical evidence, and also within the realm of traditional science by reducing genuine, supra-individual metaphysical symbolism into nothing more vague psychological allegories. Even Jung admitted that his book on alchemy was little in comparison to that of Evola. Just like Spiritualism, Psychoanalysis inhabits nothing more than the cadaver of traditional religion in its most profane manifestation.
Buying into such charlatanism means you will never in a million years attain any relevant level of metaphysical realization which, ironically, so many psychoanalysts wish to attain. You will be forever obsessed with your past, always stuck in the perpetual state of childhood so many modern men fail to transcend. You will be cast down into the recesses of your mind like Dante's Hell and unlike Dante, you will never find your way out.

>> No.12763579

>>12763161
Adulthood is Adler, Freud is your youth

>> No.12763586

>>12762019
Focus on your professional life. There's plenty of time for sex and 'people'.

>> No.12763591

>>12763542
Jung literally developed and created the idea of the collective unconscious.

>> No.12763596

>>12763579
Childhood is freud
Adulthood is adler
Old age is jung

>> No.12763601

>>12763596
This. Know the truth and the truth shall set you free.

>> No.12763605

>>12763601
What was the truth according to jung?

>> No.12763610

>>12763596
Jung is not a worthwhile successor of Freud and reads like an even less professional Eliade. Every single 'point' of his I have heard explained to me sounds like it could also come from that guy in the coop who always wears sandals and wears those ratty hoodies made of hemp.

>> No.12763616

>>12763610
>i dont like what he says therefore its wrong

>> No.12763621

>>12763591
You clearly didn't read my post. Regardless to claim he created that idea is laughable when similar thought is to be found in religions around the world.

>> No.12763638

>>12763616
isn't that most people's critiques of Freud though? Jung said even more idiotic shit but gets a pass because he didn't blackpill religion and had a more or less happier view of things. I would take the orgone guy over Jung.

>> No.12763687

>>12763605
On what particular subject? He covered many.

>> No.12763691

>>12763621
>You clearly didn't read my post. Regardless to claim he created that idea is laughable when similar thought is to be found in religions around the world.

I agree with this, but I mean within Psychology and the modern world, you must still give him dew credit. It also shows that no he was not just simply obsessed with the individual and subconscious.

>> No.12763723

>>12763687
The life

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12763739

Just get a 2d girlfriend and all your problems will be solved.

>> No.12763743

>>12763638
>isn't that most people's critiques of Freud though?
No, the main critique is that a lot of Freud's stuff is just a projection of his own personal insecurities onto his patients. Nothing exemplifies this better than the case of Little Hans. Jung, on the other hand, is a lot more personal and urges his patients to come to their own conclusions. He's entirely against Freud's methods of planting ideas into his patients' heads.

>> No.12763751

>>12763743
>is just a projection of his own personal insecurities onto his patients
I think people who read him this way are insecure in themselves. What Psychoanalyst tells people to 'come up with their own conclusions'. Thanks so much, doc.

>> No.12763760

>>12763743
You are using Freudian terminology in your critique, say what u will about certain aspects of his work. But in one way or another we all speak the Freudian discourse in our analysis and daily lives.

>> No.12763762

>>12763751
Person is not going to get healthy if hes not going to take responsibility for it.

>> No.12763767

>>12763247
Jungs is such a haaaaaack. The intellectuals astrologer. Back to peterson with you. Freud is clearly superior. 4chan is only so fond of jung because he is in concept more to the right and conservative (though the left and the right borrowed his mysticsm). Also because 4chan traditionally sides with the contrarians choice.

>> No.12763776

>>12763723
of whom?

>> No.12763785

>>12763743
>Nothing exemplifies this better than the case of Little Hans
he cured him though

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12763786

>Freud
>Jung
>Adler

>never any mention of the BESTEST
Rudolf Allers.
Read him.

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>>12763786
Forgot the link to
>Self-improvement
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.b4270636;view=2up;seq=6;skin=mobile

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>>12762019
reestablishes Freud as the true master of the spirit.

>> No.12763801

>>12763767
I like Jung primarily for its content but I can also appreciate his affiliations. Peterson is an imbecile.

Freud is a degenerate kike. Jung's theories and ideas are based around things other than repressed anger/sexual desire.

>> No.12763806

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/freud-was-a-fraud-a-triumph-of-pseudoscience/

>> No.12763808

>>12763786
>>12763796
Did he create anything himself?

>>12763799
More like demon and possessor of the spirit.

>> No.12763816

>>12763776
Whats the truth of persons life? Can you really meet the archetypes?

>> No.12763818

>>12763808
idk who could hate a man that made such claims as "The Woman does not exist" and even make feminists agree with him.

>> No.12763838

>>12763816
>Meet the archetypes.

What do you mean by "meet".

>> No.12763842

>>12763808
>Did he create anything himself
He refuted Freud and was a prominent psychiatrist, psychologist and philosopher.
He mainly focused on educational and pedagogical issues, as in :
Character education in adolescence
The psychology of character
Sex psychology in education
Self-improvement
Work and Play: Collected Papers on the Philosophy of Psychology

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>>12763818
>idk who could hate a man that made such claims as "The Woman does not exist" and even make feminists agree with him.

What sort of homosexual incel inferiority of a shit post is this?

>> No.12763848

Freud is one letter away from Fraud

>> No.12763850

>>12763842
>He refuted Freud and was a prominent psychiatrist, psychologist and philosopher.
>He mainly focused on educational and pedagogical issues, as in :
>Character education in adolescence
>The psychology of character
>Sex psychology in education
>Self-improvement
>Work and Play: Collected Papers on the Philosophy of Psychology

Alright he seems like he did a fair bit but also seems like more of a critique rather than a creator.

>> No.12763851

>>12763844
a good one ?

>> No.12763860

>>12763838
Interact with them

>> No.12763864

>>12763850
>also seems like more of a critique rather than a creator.
well as he was a former member of Freud's circles I guess he was in his right to be a critic at some point ; Adler and Jung did that too

>> No.12763877

>>12762019
How much porn do you watch?

>> No.12763914

>>12763877
Not that much anymore. Masturbating from time to time seems to help relieve the tension and neurosis.
I tried not masturbating, and it only made things worse.

Engaging in some creative activity (like programming) relieves the problem to a certain extent.

>> No.12763966

>>12763851
Well you got me there anon.

>> No.12763977

>>12763860
Yes you can interact with them. But they are not sentient beings, when one interacts with them they are not interacting with the archetype but something using the archetype for its own means.

>> No.12763982

>>12763864
>well as he was a former member of Freud's circles I guess he was in his right to be a critic at some point ; Adler and Jung did that too

Not that I meant it in a bad way.

>>12763914
>I tried not masturbating, and it only made things worse.

You just had a larger sex drive in which is needed to date women or conserve it to creative purposes.

>> No.12764055

>>12763751
>you disagree with me because you're insecure and I don't have to address the veracity of what you said at all
Pure shit, come back with something worthwhile to say or don't say anything at all. Jung gave his patients the tools to understand their problems whereas Freud gaslighted them into fitting his nonsense framework.

>>12763760
That's why I said "a lot" of his stuff, not all of it. There's plenty in Freud that is worthwhile and Jung certainly acknowledged this too.

>>12763785
No he didn't, Freud and the father (a supporter of Freud) implanted psychosexual nonsense into his head and then solved the problems that they themselves created. That his fear of horses owing to seeing the death of one faded over time has no connection at all.

>> No.12764070

I AM THE JUNG POSTER. I AM GOING TO SLEEP NOW. GOODBYE.

>> No.12764081

give your bithdate,gonna make horoscope

>> No.12764144

>>12763785
cure is worse than the illness

>> No.12764183

More like Sigmund Pseud

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>>12764183
that's my joke what the fuck dude

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>>12764055
>he didn't solve the problem! It just solved itself at the same time that he supposedly cured it!

>> No.12764269

>>12762509
>sex is not important except for reproduction
citation needed

>> No.12764288

>>12764248
repressing the problem is not a solution dipshit fascist

>> No.12764291

>>12764288
>it stopped itself!!!
>he just repressed it!!!
which is it?

>> No.12764297

>>12762526
he calls them his blades

>> No.12764313

>>12762019
There's really ugly women out there with no standards ready to fuck with you, but I'm saying really ugly, uncultured, no tits, no ass, pure fat - kind of woman, but of course nobody wants that, the "Having sex is not an option." Is pure bullshit to me, in other words it's like saying "I don't like prostitutes nor fugly women"

>> No.12764322

>>12764313
Even those want to be courted and taken out first.

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ITT: misrepresentations of respectable psychologists

Jungs pretty great but christfags will always be seething at him

>> No.12765315

>>12764343
>trying to summon demons to collapse dimension of divine fulfillment just to be weird n quirky like that xD

>> No.12765698

>>12764343
>christfags will always be seething at him
How so?

>> No.12765790

>>12764343
>Jungs pretty great but christfags will always be seething at him

He was fairly pro Religion desu, any Religion has the potential to seeth at him.

>> No.12766033

>>12762027
Did someone shop his calves? They look way too big here.

>> No.12766041

>>12766033
You mean small? Or is Sam Hyde suffering from anorexia like a malaria-stricken African child?

I’m gonna go with the first option. You meant small.