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What does /lit/ think of this novel?

>> No.12742566

>>12742552
Unironically, it’s terrible. BEE is objectively a bad writer

>> No.12742572

>>12742552
It's worth less than zero. Read American Psycho, which is hilarious, and then forget about him.

>> No.12743770

>>12742552
It's a solid book, but not special by any means. Nihilistic rich kids doing nihilistic rich kid things.

>> No.12743788

>>12742566
what about rules of attraction? I've heard it's better than less than zero with similar themes

>> No.12743887

The writing was bad and the ideas were hamfisted. It seemed like Ellis was trying to do something with the metanarrative by meandering through the plot hence nihilism, but at best it was meh

>> No.12744031

>>12743788
Why do you want to read this hack so bad? I mean feel free to waste your precious time but he’s entirely forgettable.

>> No.12744368

>>12744031
to like get familiar with the hollow, fucked up culture surrounding an American college or something.

>> No.12744373

>This whole thread
Jeez, Alice Munro, go to bed already. It's like after midnight in Canada.

>> No.12744530

>>12744373
Go to bed Bret. You’re a terrible writer. The only explanation for your fame is your proximity to Donna and/or some family connection to a publishing house.

>> No.12744562

>>12742552
I kind of like it.

>> No.12745536

>>12742552
loved it as a teenager reread last year and was embarrassed for myself

>> No.12745556

What happened with that thread bee started a few months ago

>> No.12745558

>>12744530
i mean, i liked glamorama.

>> No.12745563

Not recommend either as entertainment or something to contemplate. I’m not sure what it says that the plot is so disposable that the movie is almost a completely different story.

>> No.12745574

>>12745558
why do you like it anon i like a couple of BE but that book was such trash

>> No.12745599

>>12745574
i suffer from depersonalization episodes and i felt like the recurring element of the "camera crew" that cuts in every so often starting out in act ii was an apt equivalent of what i feel like when i depersonalize, and you really don't read much about characters depersonalizing anyway.

i don't even know if this was on purpose, but it really made the book seem a lot more solid that i originally thought it was.

>> No.12745657

>>12745599
fair answer anon i just thought it just felt like a contrived addition just thrown in so it wasn't just yet another
>and I, um, jammed my tongue in her pussy but, um, was really feeling it and i was pulling myself off and i saw a billboard
i get that connection to you're depersonalisation but don't you think AP did that towards the end feeling far more natural and not just tacked on?

>> No.12745677

>>12742552
Better than Infinite jest (obviously) but worse than American psycho.

>> No.12745680

Less than zero more like less than good lmaaoooo

>> No.12745682

>>12745657
it might, i havent read AP. i liked glamorama (or rather i "sympathized" with the book) but i didnt really feel compelled to read more ellis afterwards. i was afraid it'd be more of the same.

>> No.12745720

BEE posts here, he probably made this thread

>> No.12745964

>>12745677
Isn't it past your bedtime, Bret?

>> No.12745997

>>12742552
Sucks. ‘American Psycho’ is better.

>> No.12746001

>>12745680
Alright, Norm, you've had your fun.

>> No.12746022

>>12745556
What thread? Archive link?

>> No.12746355

>>12743788
rules of attraction is great
if you're under 25
a book about the inability to connect in any meaningful way with anyone else

>> No.12746361

>>12742566
>BEE is objectively a bad writer
how so?

>> No.12747259

>>12745720
Post-empire post

>> No.12747314

bad writer, pretty good podcaster tho

>> No.12747383

>>12742552
thx for pointing me to the Tartt, BEE

>> No.12747393

>>12742552
I think Bret Easton Ellis is the most self-hating faggot in the universe and he should neck himself.

>> No.12747406

how do you taper off so hard after writing so well at a young age

>> No.12747524
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>> No.12747548

>>12747524
What a savage. Never get on the wrong side of someone extremely funny.

https://streamable.com/yg6ut

Watch Norm effortlessly bring a room of comedians to tears

>> No.12747691

>>12747524
holy shit. norm is a fucking killer. did bret ever respond to him?

>> No.12747731

>>12747524
Fucking Canadians can’t appreciate Richard Ford

>> No.12747748

>>12747548
>>12747524
Cringe

>> No.12747764

So funny to open /lit/ and see a bunch of incel losers typing about me. Wake me up when any of you do anything noteworthy with your lives, let alone get published, let alone write a best seller, let alone write a modern classic. Getting up out of the chair to go the fridge and heat up the chicken tendies is too overwhelming for you, just give up/

>> No.12748003

>>12747524
I can understand Canadians being resentful of American authors, I can't understand them not choosing a better representative of their supposed literary genius than fucking Alice Munro.

>> No.12748464

>>12747764
whoa, Alice.....easy on the tendies

>> No.12749244

>>12742552
>>12743770
>>12743788
>>12744562
>>12745599
You might also like Twelve by Nick McDonell

>> No.12749503

>>12742552
I didn't hate the novel, but it made me hate rich people even more than I already did, so I'd call that an accomplishment on BEE's part.

>> No.12749914

>>12749503
Wasn't the point of most if not all of BEE's novels is that the rich people are a reflection of the consumerist society that they were born and raised in?

>> No.12750886

I had fun reading it because I was just looking for BEE's ability to write about fucked up shit in a callous way. If anything the sequel is where the shit hits the fan and it just feels flaccid and ham-handed.