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Name who you consider the 3 best writers in your mother tongue

>> No.12730865

Bossuet
Chateaubriand
The guy who wrote the Song of Roland

>> No.12730883

I don't read very much English literature.

>> No.12730897

>>12730854
Shakespeare, Carlyle, Nabokov

>> No.12730898

Joost van den Vondel
Joost van den Vondel
Joost van den Vondel

>> No.12730901

Shakes, Pope, Browne

>> No.12730903

Cervantes, Quevedo, Borges.

>> No.12730939

Calvino (and my professor of literature too) used to say that Galileo is the best Italian writer... I think I prefer Dante, Petrarch and Leopardi though.

>> No.12730961

this entire thread is basically proof that /lit/ has and always will have shit taste, and is not to be taken seriously when discussing any topic ever.

>> No.12730968

>>12730961
your post might hold some weight if you listed your top 3, but obviously you won't do that lel

>> No.12730973

>>12730968
I actually haven't read a book in 4 years.

>> No.12731004

>>12730898
>niet Reve
>niet Vestdijk
>niet Couperus
>niet Hooft
Vondel is leuk, maar als je der zoveel heb ken je toch wel meer as eentje kieze?

>>12730939
No Boccaccio? He is has a very humourous way of writing imo.

>> No.12731009

shakespeare, joyce and woolf

>> No.12731014

Goethe
Kafka
Hesse

>> No.12731041

Machado de Assis
Fernando Pessoa
Guimarães Rosa

>> No.12731058

none of them.
t. anon from eastern europe

>> No.12731070

>>12730854
Hard one. I've read too few to judge the whole langage, but among those I've read:

>Hugo
>Baudelaire
>Pascal

wish I could include Bernanos, Rimbaud or Valéry

>> No.12731071

Shakespeare
Faulkner
Melville

>> No.12731092

Cervantes
Calderón de la barca
Borges

I haven't read many things in my native tongue

>> No.12731102

Cervantes
Baroja
Pérez Galdós

>> No.12731112

>>12731004
Yeah he's good, but Italian literature gave its best in poetry. (Then you read Nievo and you instantly change idea, but still).

>> No.12731116

>>12730854
>Dante
>Leopardi
Third place is a tie between Montale and Gadda.
>>12730939
What do you like in Petrarca? I've never been able to appreciate him that much

>> No.12731133

Imre Madách
Frigyes Karinthy
János Arany

>> No.12731197

Willem
Frederik
Hermans

>> No.12731241

Huizinga
Achterberg
Reve

>> No.12731245

>Spanish, but with emphasis in México.

1. Sor Juana Inés de la Cruz
2. Luisa Josefina Hernández
3. José Emilio Pacheco

>> No.12731272

>>12731241
>Achterberg
Never heard of this guy. What do you rec?

>> No.12731276

>>12730854
Schulz
Prus
Norwid

>> No.12731277

>Spanish, worldwide

1. Miguel de Cervantes de Saavedra
2. Gabriel García Márquez
3. Juan Ruiz de Alarcón

>> No.12731286

>>12731009
>Joyce and Woolf
>no Walt Whitman

>> No.12731293

>>12731009
> Woolf

Daily reminder that women can't write

>> No.12731296

>>12731014
>Goethe
>no Bertolt Brecht

>> No.12731318

>>12731296
Brecht is just edge anyway.

>> No.12731351

>>12731092
I recommend you:

>100 Years of Solitude
>Everything by
>Juan Ruiz de Alarcón plays
>Garsilaso poetry
>Luisa Josefina Hernández's novels and plays
>Sor Juana Inés de la Cruz full works
>Like Water for Chocolate
>Juan José Arreola's full works
>Rodolfo Usigli best known plays: The Gesticulator, Crown of Shadow, Crown of Fire and Crown of Light.
>Rosario Castellanos' poetry
>Battles in the Dessert

>> No.12731362

1. Dick
2. Cock
3. Penis

>> No.12731372

Kafka, Schopenhauer, Goethe
(bonus: easy reading with Kurt Faber)

>> No.12731374

>>12731318
How you dare!

But seriously, Goethe is pretty famous, but he wasn't really that good.

>> No.12731376

>>12731362
>1.
Aasimov is better

>> No.12731378

>>12731362
ecks dee

>> No.12731392

>>12731374
Neither is Brecht, you'd be better off picking the least of Manns even. More than enough Schriftsteller to choose from.

>> No.12731402

Hölderlin, Rilke, Kafka

>> No.12731403

>>12731293
shopping list ?

>> No.12731410

Thomas Mann, Thomas Bernhard, Franz Kafka

>> No.12731412

>>12731376
I like your joke, but incorrect

>> No.12731418

>>12731376
>Aasimov
Hit the streets with that kike shit.

>> No.12731430

>>12731418
>Not getting baited by all the germophones saying Kafka.
>Reacting to my lame joke.

>> No.12731440

>>12731293
I wouldn't agree with that completly, just because of the fact that I haven't read much literature that were written by women but by God.... Viriginia Woolf is so crappy. I read Mrs Dalloway and Im still pretty mad about the fact that its a brainlet, feminin and shitty version of In Search of Lost Times by Proust.

>> No.12731461

>>12730854
Shakespeare
Milton
Melville

>> No.12731468

>>12731430
It was mad decent. Don't be so hard on yourself, anon.

>> No.12731811

>>12730854
Shakespeare
Joyce
Hemingway

>> No.12731821

>>12730854
Steinbeck, Poe and Bradbury are the best burger writers

>> No.12731822

>>12730854
William Blake
Herman Melville
Thomas Ligotti

>> No.12731839

King Solomon
Agnon
Hanoch Levin

>> No.12731949
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>>12731116
I like his constancy. The Canzoniere is nothing but a huge variation on the same theme. He always talks about the same woman, the same feelings, the same love, but in each poem he creates new situations to describe it in newer and newer ways. It's an exeptional example for any writer, the definitive proof that you don't need a lot of real life experience to write well. In addition to this, his language is beautiful, so pure and gentle and bright. Stylistically speaking, Petrarch is better than Dante.

However I agree on Montale, and despite the recent contrarianism I also love Ungaretti. Only a cynical insensitive could not appreciate Ungaretti.

>> No.12732258

Shakespeare
Eliot
Browning

>> No.12732266

>>12731133
Madách, komolyan?

>> No.12732284

>>12732266
>implikálja hogy az Ember Tragédiája nem a(z) (egyik) legnagyszerűbb mű amit nemzetünk irodalma kitermelt a századok során
De te kit tennél a helyébe?
Őszintén, azt hittem Karinthy jobban fogja valakinek baszni a csőrét, fogalmam sincs miért.

>> No.12732289

>>12731821
>Walt Whitman

>> No.12732299

>>12731133
>>12732266
>>12732284
Do you guys have any writer that feels like Satantango? Do not tell me Krasznahorkai, because no, he doesn't.

>> No.12732314

>>12732284
Az ember tragédiája mint színmű oké, de egész irodalmat tekintve szerintem nem top3
nekem inkább József Attila, Örkény vagy Krasznahorkai, Esterházy

>> No.12732327

Joyce
Pynchon
DFW

>> No.12732339

>>12732314
Azt nem mondtam hogy nincs más jó. Elképesztően sok jó van. Zrínyi is jó.
Esterházyt nem olvastam, az egy dió amit majd később török fel.
Igazából vaciláltam én, hidd el, vaciláltam, hogy akkor most Krasznahorkai legyen-e végül ott, vagy valamelyik másik a három közül, mert igen, talán kicsit fapados a lista, de nekem nagyon de nagyon tetszett az Ember Tragédiája.
A magyar irodalom csúcsteljesítménye, Esterházy trükkös prózája ide vagy oda. (Mert bár ugye Tour de Force, és szép teljesítmény az is, ítéljük oda az alapján amennyit a Fancsikó és Pintából volt szerencsém olvasni.)
És persze, dialektikára redukálható az egész, de nem érdekel (Bár a tézis antitézis pár nem feltétlenül követi mindig egymást a művön belüli cselekményből jövően.). Egy mágikus utazás és nagyon tetszett.

>> No.12732359

>>12732327
>he fell for the /lit/ meme

>> No.12732363

Hamsun
Ibsen
Petterson

>> No.12732369

>>12732299
>Hurr hurr I'm movie pleb
Read Krasznahorkai or jump in the Danube faggot. Krasznahorkai is good. Really good. The best this language managed to produce in the last 50 or so years.
Read him.

>> No.12732395

Padre Antônio Vieira
Camilo Castelo Branco
Machado de Assis

br btw

>> No.12732404

>>12732339
Persze, ízlésről vitatkozni nyilván hülyeség, csak szerintem Madách jellemzően ilyen egykönyves író, Zrínyi meg inkább történelmi szempontból érdekes. A 20. századtől kezdve viszont nyilván annyi a zseni hogy rangsorolni se lehetne.
Nekem egyébként a Fancsikó és Pinta annyira nem tetszett mint a későbbi könyvek (de nem a legutolsók, inkább ilyen 2000 környéke nálam a kedvenc, mikor már átment ilyen kevésbé posztmodernbe. Ha viszont posztmodern, akkor Fuharosok)
Egyébként Aranyban, Karinthyban teljesen egyetértek

>> No.12732424

>>12732369
Why are Hungarians so salty? Movie pleb is most probably you, not me. I've read Krasznahorkai and his prose doesn't match the atmosphere of the film in my opinion, except some parts of The World Goes On, maybe, but that's another thing. Moreover, I haven't said he's bad, just that he doesn't feel like the movie, so you really need to calm down.

>> No.12732435

If we're talking sheer quality, it's obviously a matter of personal taste. If we're talking contribution to the development of the language, there's a debate to be had.

For example, regarding French, I would put Rabelais, Molière, and maybe Céline as instrumental to the development of French literature even though of them are among my favorite authors

>> No.12732444

>>12732424
It's the world that's too sweet.

>> No.12732459

>>12732444
Sweet trips too, uh?

>> No.12732476

>>12732339
amúgy érdekel, top3 magyar film?

>> No.12732477
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>>12732459
I guess.

>> No.12732485

>>12732476
Nem. Életemben összesen ha 5 filmet láttam önszántamból.
Nem is tudnék hozzászólni, mert még a műfaj alapvetéseivel se vagyok tisztában a mérhetetlen mértékű ignoranciám miatt.

>> No.12732494

>>12732485
ok

>> No.12732503

>>12732494
Hát ezt gyanúsan egyszerűen letudtuk.
Kösz hogy megérted.

>> No.12732516

>>12732503
bármikor

>> No.12732558

>>12730854
Shakespeare
Austen
George Eliot

>> No.12732611

>>12730854
Platão
Marcos Aurelio
Homero

>> No.12732635

>>12730854
I would say:
H.C. Andersen
Soren Kierkegaard
N.F.S. Grundtvig

But there are so many more I could mention.

>> No.12732655

>>12730854
Ariosto
Leopardi
Landolfi

>> No.12732901

>>12732611
Didn't Aurelio write in Latin?

>> No.12733075

>>12732901
And Homer and Plato in Greek.

>> No.12733086

>>12732901
>>12733075
His Meditations were written in Greek at the very least.

>> No.12733919

SIN ORDEN PARTICULAR:


— BALTASAR GRACIÁN.

— JOSÉ VASCONCELOS.

— MIGUEL DE CERVANTES SAAVEDRA.

>> No.12734052

>>12730854
english
shakespeare
joyce
pynchon in a very distant third

>> No.12734110

musil
rilke
bernhard

>> No.12734125

Shakespeare
Kipling
Milton

>> No.12734223

>>12731351
Not him. I've read Garcilaso, García Márquez, and several other of those people. I've never found anything beautiful or sublime in those people's works.

>> No.12735042

nietzsche
thomas mann
goethe

>> No.12735064

>>12730854
Cartarescu
Cioran
Rebreanu

>> No.12735085

>>12735064
Rousseau, there is nothing like Rousseau.

I honestly hold him to be one of the wiser political scientists. The Social Contract is similar to The Prince, in how it can simply help you live life, by looking at situations other people in charge political situations acted.

Emile exposes his personal philosophy towards life and it is just... amazing. Just a beautiful perception to have about learning, love, etc. It is me and my girlfriend's favorite.

>> No.12735097

Racine
Proust
Balzac

>> No.12735102

>>12732404
>>12732339
>>12732314
Azt hiszem ez az egyetlen és utolsó pillanat, amikor megkérdezhetem, hogy melyik bibliafordítást olvassam.
(Amúgy József Attilát miért említjük a legnagyobbak között? Őszinte kérdés, agylet vagyok a lírához.)

>> No.12735189

Norwid
Gombrowicz
S. I. Witkiewicz

>> No.12735197

>>12730901
good picks

>> No.12735210

Kafka
Büchner

The rest are lame af, I hate German literature

>> No.12735287

>>12735102
sajnos nekem még kimaradt a biblia mert kőateista vagyok, de szeretném majd pótolni :(
József Attillát meg én azért említem, mert szerintem hiába állítjuk magunkról hogy ilyen-olyan költőnemzet vagyunk, prózában mégis sokkal több a jó alkotás, és lírában számomra, talán csak Arany, Ady, József, esetleg Kosztolányi van.

>> No.12735355

>>12735042
imagine unironically disagreeing with this

>> No.12735567

>>12735102
2bh a protestánsoknak mindig a Károli-Biblia éppen aktuális revíziója dívik, irodalmilag is ez a legnagyobb behatású ha jól rémlik, a katolikusoknál meg mindig valami új memé a menő afaik.
De abban meg benne vannak az apokrif iratok is.
Én igazából a Károlit olvasnám először, aztán ahhoz apokrif iratokat.

>> No.12735578

>>12730854
Dante
Leopardi
Montale

>>12735355
Yeah, seriously. They're objectively the 3 canonical greatest German authors. No other writer comes close.

>> No.12735589

>>12735042
thomas mann is unironically russian writer

>> No.12735847

>>12734223
that's because you've never been in a third world country

>> No.12735884

Shakespeare
Fitzgerald
Wilfred Owen

>> No.12736011

>>12735097
>Racine
>no Molière

>Proust
>no Zola

>> No.12736048

>>12730854
Slauerhoff
Multatuli
Couperus

>> No.12736582

>>12731374
Sorry Goethe fucked your mom dude

>> No.12736588

>>12730854
Shakespeare and Joyce are the only on this list that remotely apply for English. Chaucer. Milton is literal trash. Where is my boy Tommy P.

>> No.12736673

>>12736048
>Multatuli
So he's really good? I mean, I heard his name a few times but mainly because he was 'the only famous Dutch writer'. Is Max Havelarr actually worth reading?

>> No.12737042

Rabelais
La Fontaine
Céline

>> No.12737049
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>>12736588
>Milton is literal trash.

>> No.12737203

Márai Sándor
József Attila
Madách Imre

>> No.12737348

>>12736673
Max havelaar is my personal favourite book after Moby Dick and I do think it's one of the greatest books ever written. To fully appreciate it you should read up on the life of the writer, as his history before writing the book, and his mindset when he wrote it in the span of 3 weeks, is important to understanding what he's trying to do here.

It's not a book I fully appreciated on my first reading, (just like most of my favourites), but I did enjoy reading it a ton. I'm not sure how a translation would hold up, but I don't have much trust in it, even so, there is just so much good stuff in the book, that I'm sure you'll enjoy it. It's not the number one entry on the canon of Dutch literature, because it's mediocre, anyhow.

>> No.12738028

Cervantes
Quevedo
Calderón or San Juan de la Cruz

>> No.12738071

>>12731402
Modest contribution, but I like it. Each so stylistically different. If 3 favorites were asked instead Hoffmann would be included on my list.

>> No.12738096

>>12735884
Though choices two and three are outlandish I really do like (you) anon.

>> No.12738231
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>>12738028
Recorcholis, iba a escribir eso mismo

>> No.12738239

>>12735578
>>12735042
Novalis >>>>>> goethe

>> No.12738612

>>12730898
Geen Multatuli?
Geen Mulisch?
Geen Reve?

>> No.12739512

>>12738612
Cruyff?