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The significance of Sura 33 of the Quran

Muhammad's (PBUH) marriages to Aisha (who became the most important wife for giving accounts of the Prophet's life in the Hadiths) and Zaynab bint Jahsh (whose marriage annulled her husband's status as the Prophet's son) were both about ensuring Abu Bakr's succession to the Caliphate.

Here is Abu Bakr on the rules of war

>Do not commit treachery or deviate from the right path. You must not mutilate dead bodies. Neither kill a child, nor a woman, nor an aged man. Bring no harm to the trees, nor burn them with fire, especially those which are fruitful. Slay not any of the enemy's flock, save for your food. You are likely to pass by people who have devoted their lives to monastic services; leave them alone.

>> No.12722098

>>12722086
Mashallah brother keep spreading the word and you will surely secure your place in Jannah

>> No.12722112

>>12722086
Unironically how to jihadists account for stuff like this?

>> No.12722126

>>12722086
Why did you not also post the Surat?

>> No.12722142

>>12722112
Islam follows the same logic as comic books. In the 30s Batman killed people but in the 10s he never would. The Quran just retcons it's own rules.

>> No.12722166

>>12722112
They don't. It's blatant ignorance.

>> No.12722167
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12722167

>>12722086
>Zaynab bint Jahsh
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>bint

>> No.12722168

>>12722142
Have you read the Qu'uran?

>> No.12722795

>>12722126
Isn't that a bit long to put in the OP?

>> No.12722994

>>12722112
because for every sura there is a counter sura. so in the end you can cherry pick what fits your situation at the moment. if you are weak and infidels are more than you you use the peacefull suras if you are in majority you use the nasty suras. surprisingly most muslims i met either didnt read the quoran or started to doublethink and got realy angry when asked about flaws in a perfect book.

>> No.12723050

>>12722994
>>12722994
Care to name any two surahs that contradict each other?

>> No.12723153

>>12722994
Ibn Kathir gives a good explanation for this. He points to times in the Old Testament and the Bible where God's law is abrogated depending on the situation. He points to the rules on incestuous relationships and the sacrifice of Ismail as examples. He claims that the war abrogations are of similar circumstance and the situation is imperative on declaring a verdict. He believes the Quran and the books of God are chalk full of far more situational ethics than people typically believe.

>> No.12723176

>>12723153
Muslims think the Bible is full of contradictions because the text was fudged. The Koran according to itself contains no contradiction (4:38). It has never been read as a document of situational ethics, but an infallible, *eternal* dictation by God *verbatim*. Mohammed understood it as such as have his followers.

>> No.12723220

>>12723176
But the Quran literally says that abrogation is okay as do Hadith. Muslims deny the Bible because they believe the text itself is corrupted at a somewhat fundamental level. Of course the whole book isn't situational(domestic Islamic law and the pillars of Islam are universal) but certain things like war are circumstance dependent.

>> No.12723245

>>12723220
Circumstance dependent is written into the Quran and explicated where it is. Same with Hadiths (although Hadiths are not infallible and so a contradiction can be read as an error)

>> No.12723278

>>12722112
Wahhabism