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is there any book that proves ethics are objective and not just slave morality?

>> No.12713785

Who cares? You will never be a master and it is objective that you will have to get along with people.

>> No.12713790

>>12713785
t. discord tranny

>> No.12713793

>>12713785
Who are you to say

>> No.12713807

>>12713780
Fuck trannies

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>>12713780
the term your looking for is "spook". Slave morality is something else entirely, brainlet pseud.

>> No.12713870

>>12713780
"Slave morality" is a specific category of morality type based on its historical prevalence among slaves and serfs with its ostensible origin in the ressentiment of owned persons. You could as well have said "is there any book that proves ethics are objective and not just master morality?" and your post would make as much (i.e. as little) sense.

Lots of philosophers have tried to do this, I don't think any have succeeded. Kant, Descartes, and Spinoza all attempted this in one way or another. But you really should just start with the Greeks.

>> No.12713903

>>12713780
the bible

>> No.12713918

>>12713780
sauce

>> No.12713942

>>12713903
nice meme

>> No.12713948

>>12713780
Do you think life on this planet could continue into the future without any kind of system of ethics to keep our desires in due balance?

The answer is no, and it won't, because we do not live by or have a system that tells us how to do it. We are running off the edge of a cliff.
>>12713903
See above.

>> No.12713950

>>12713780
MOOOODDDS

>> No.12713975

>>12713780
Does the "is morality objective or not?" thing makes any sense when it comes to virtue ethics?

>> No.12713980

>>12713870
Greeks are brainlet debnt incurrers
>>12713780
Read Summa Theologia and Refutation of all Heresies. Crusaders did nothing wrong, Byzzies had it coming to them.

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>>12713950
>m-m-mods p-please protect me and my delicate snowflake incel sensibilities
you've made a powerful enemy snitchboi

>> No.12714011

>>12713980
>calls others brainlets
>recommends Aquinas

>> No.12714026

>>12713780
name ?

>> No.12714041

>>12714008
based

>> No.12714060

>>12713980
>Refutation of all Heresies
Pythagoras, Plato, and Aristotle each individually accomplished far more of value for the world than anything any Christian that ever existed did without Pythagoras, Plato, and Aristotle.

>> No.12714575

>>12714060
Calculus made by Christians are much more sophisticated achievements than those of the ancients. The Greeks are overrated. Egyptians, Sumers, and Harappans had geometry locked down already. Greeks just had people to ascribe theorems to.
>>12714011
>meme response
Efficiency curve=met

>> No.12714670

>>12714575
I know you're an illiterate fucktard, but Kepler was Newtons greatest influence, and guess who Keplers greatest influence was? Your little Jewish book contributed fucking nothing to science you degenerate.

>> No.12714684

>>12714575
Where in the Bible did the development of Calculus come from?

>> No.12714700

>>12714670
what about Mendel?

>> No.12714723

>>12714684
Logos

Who is the girl

>> No.12714745

>>12714700
What part of the Bible inspired Mendel's work.
Why did the Latin speaking West produce nothing of value for a thousand years until Greeks were translated to Latin initiating the Renaissance, named for a Rebirth of pagan Greek learning.

>> No.12714753

>>12714745
Allow me to say "retranslated"
Christians, Catholics in particular, are humongous fucktards who hate knowledge.

>> No.12714761

>>12714745
is this bait?

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>>12714761
>is this bait?
Are you pretending to be retarded? I hope so.

Renaissance, (French: “Rebirth”) period in European civilization immediately following the Middle Ages and conventionally held to have been characterized by a surge of interest in Classical scholarship and values. The Renaissance also witnessed the discovery and exploration of new continents, the substitution of the Copernican for the Ptolemaic system of astronomy

>the Fall of Constantinople (1453) generated a wave of émigré Greek scholars bringing precious manuscripts in ancient Greek, many of which had fallen into obscurity in the West.

>> No.12714871

>>12714792
What is this 1960, the middle ages are now understood as culturally sophisticated regardless of the proximity to classical culture

>> No.12714885

>>12714792
>he fell for the dark ages meme

>> No.12714959

>>12714871
If you ever decide to read the works of Renaissance thinkers you'll see they all worked off ancient Greek writings.
>>12714885
>being this much of a shill

>> No.12714969

https://youtu.be/dIEemKcy-4E

watch this, about Natural Law

then pass it on. long, but worth it. get ready to take notes.

>> No.12714970

>>12714885
>it was all a part of gods five hundred year plan
>humans actually do nothing for themselves
You see how dumb you sound?

>> No.12714973

>>12714959
Particularly Kepler, Copernicus, and Galileo.
The main contribution Christianity played in their work was banning it.
Kepler felt he was Pythagoras reborn.

>> No.12714977

>>12714970
a man who impersonates a trannie tripfag known for her shite opinions and illiteracy is calling me stupid. get filtered pleb.

>>12714959
>being this much of a meme

>> No.12714991

>>12714977
Stop posting

>> No.12715000

>>12714973
Discorso sopra i massimi sistemi is incredibly based, Galileo basically calls the pope a retard

>> No.12715026

>>12715000
Galileo is irrelevant today

The age of enlightenment could as easily be called the age of theft. Politicians used their status to steal from the crown, church, and generally behave reprehensibly you wouldn't seriously view the title one faction gives to its rival uncritically

>> No.12715037

>>12714977
Gtfo my board, poltard

>> No.12715066

>>12715026
>Galileo is irrelevant today
Ok. Christianity is irrelevant today.

>> No.12715068

>>12713780
name anyone ?

>> No.12715076

>>12714991
>>12715037
and what are you two fags gonna do if I don't?

I'll answer that for you
a) impotently bitch and whine
b)absolutely fucking nothing.

>> No.12715079

>>12715026
>Galileo is irrelevant today
what

>> No.12715081

>>12714977
>her

>> No.12715085

>>12715076
Continue to comment on your childish intelligence.

>> No.12715110

>>12715000
Checked.
Heres a copy in English for people who want to read some Galileo.
https://mega.nz/#!9VcGzYyA!P7DwAp_p5js9AQz-T3d1Eh1ZY8GebWGvzhdD2AZkvLY

>> No.12715138

>>12713790
>>12713807
Who gives a fuck if she used to have a dick, won't stop me from bustin' a nut to her.

>> No.12715434

>>12713780
Can we get a name

>> No.12715561

>>12713918 >>12714026 >>12714723 >>12715068 >>12715434
For the boys
>https://www.instagram.com/niecewaidhofer/?hl=en

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>>12713780
Max Stirner's work. He demonstrates that not being an egoist (doing whatever you desire) is irrational

>> No.12715742

>>12715561
BASED

>> No.12715788

>>12714885
>>12714970
Will you give insightful replies or remain in the shadow of retardation?

>> No.12715802

>>12715788
Is my brevity that bothers you?

>> No.12715813

>>12715802
>Is it my brevity that bothers you*

It was: Is my brevity what bothers you, but I went back for just the one word.
I’m sure you don’t care.

>> No.12715836

>>12715813
you're worrying too much, and it doesn't matter. I wanted to hear your honest view as opposed to what that anon believed, can you do that?

>> No.12715920

>>12713780

WHY?! WHY MUST YOU TORMENT ME SO WITH THESE JEZEBELS? All I want to do is come here for an asexual experience that will exercise my brain but I am constantly titillated by these vixens with their prodigious hips and provocative figures. Can I never satiate this thirst, will I ever know the touch of a woman and enter between her loins? Will my seed ever drip from her moistened hole?

Life is a constant hell. No wonder I resent women too.

>> No.12715994

>>12715561
What the fuck is this? The posts are ridiculous and have nothing to do with the softcore porn she's posting. I find it hard to believe this is a serious account or even run by her.

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>>12715994
god damn it discord trannies FUCK OFF

>> No.12716584

>>12713975
No, which is why virtue ethics are unironically the way to go. I used to scoff at them but their benefits are undeniable.
Namely, you don't autistically adhere yourself to moral laws like Kantianism or Utilitarianism, cornering yourself with your own moral statements and forcing yourself into ridiculous moral dilemmas.

Virtue ethics are demonstrably subjective, which is their strength

>> No.12716661

>>12715836
Yeah

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>>12716172
>"M-mom! Look! I r-replied to all the posts!"

>> No.12716768

>>12713780
tiddies

>> No.12716794

>>12715994
lol who actually reads the posts

>> No.12716823

i want to have sEX with her

>> No.12717262

>>12716661
...well?

>> No.12717342

>>12713780
Nicomachean Ethics, brainlet

>> No.12717490

>>12713780
You really need a book to prove that to you? Ethics are a strategy, both the concepts and their implementations exist objectively. What you're probably wondering is if ethics are -universal- and the answer is no. Values follow from our natures as valuing agents, so while there is significant overlap, variance in nature makes ture universality of values impossible.

>> No.12717761

"Morality" is a byproduct of humans being social animals. Haidt's moral foundations theory provides an explanation to general trends in ethics and straddles the line of objective/subjective.