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Anonymous Sat Mar 2 15:32:52 2019 No.12691217 [Reply] [Original]

Who was a better poet?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 15:35:12 2019 No.12691227 >>12691217 Rimbaud by a landslide

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 15:38:46 2019 No.12691256 Baudie

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 15:40:16 2019 No.12691266 everyone but poe

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 15:41:17 2019 No.12691272 >>12691217 wait, is bottom left yeats?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 15:42:32 2019 No.12691278 >>12691272 Wilde

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 15:44:23 2019 No.12691293 >>12691278 oh, of course. haven't read any of his poetry, but his plays are great

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 15:44:57 2019 No.12691296 Rimbaud >>> Baudelaire >> Wilde = Edgar Allan "spookyboy" Poe

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 15:45:34 2019 No.12691300 >>12691296 >Rimbaud >>> Baudelaire wait

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 15:45:39 2019 No.12691302 >>12691217 What a horrible set of choices (Poe is great and hating the Raven is weird)

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 15:55:10 2019 No.12691352 >>12691217 lautréamont>>>baudelaire

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 16:08:12 2019 No.12691449 File: 265 KB, 750x907, Walter Benjamin vers 1928.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Baudelaire is the best poet to have ever lived fuck you adorno you can't read poetry for shit gtfo

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 16:09:38 2019 No.12691461 It’s impossible to say. Poetry is utterly meaningless jumbled of words, and since anyone can vomit words into a page, there is no concept of “better” or “worse” in poetry

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 16:10:57 2019 No.12691465 Better battle: Baudelaire Rimbaud Hugo Mallarme Musset Valery

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 16:11:24 2019 No.12691468 >>12691461 Your posts are utterly meaningless jumbled of words. there is no concept of “right” or “wrong” in your posts

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 16:19:34 2019 No.12691505 >>12691217 Not even a contest man, the french by a mile, this is like comparing Wordsworth to like whoever voltaires favorite poet was

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 16:20:50 2019 No.12691510 is it best to read baudelaire in enlgish or your own language (note that your own language is not french)

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 16:21:03 2019 No.12691512 >>12691465 Rimbaud and especially are cinpletely different poets than late romantics you guys are dumb, could compare baudelaire to like parnassians though and valery to his slightly earlier peers

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 16:22:04 2019 No.12691518 >>12691510 Depends on the language, id say yes, english doesnt have any outstanding translations for him

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 16:23:48 2019 No.12691530 >>12691518 scandinavian >english doesnt have any outstanding translations for him was afraid this was the case

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 16:25:34 2019 No.12691538 Rimbaud without question.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 18:58:25 2019 No.12692206 >>12691518 >>12691530 French translates better into English than into any other language - doesn't matter if there's an outstanding translation or not. It will certainly be better than any "Scandinavian" translation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 19:06:16 2019 No.12692252 >>12692206 really? i thought they had nothing in common

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 19:07:46 2019 No.12692261 >>12691217 Poe was a shit poet. Rimbaud was the best, he was the living embodiment of the romantic poetic ideal. Young, gay, french. You can’t beat that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 19:19:46 2019 No.12692314 File: 181 KB, 1024x1001, Georg-Trakl-oesterreichischer-Lyriker-1887-1914-2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >A challenger appears

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 19:24:36 2019 No.12692337 Rimbaud owes everything to Baudelaire.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 19:52:06 2019 No.12692465 Baudelaire owes a lot to Poe

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 20:11:18 2019 No.12692564 >>12691217 Baudelaire. Not even a contest.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 20:13:05 2019 No.12692574 >Literally NO ONE mentions Rainer Maria Rilke Horrid taste. What the hell has happened to /lit/?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 20:13:33 2019 No.12692578 >>12692206 I disagree. French translates better into Spanish than into English. My reading of Houellebecq's poetry taught me this. The English version sucks the living shit out of his poetry.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 20:14:38 2019 No.12692588 >>12692574 >Horrid taste. What the hell has happened to /lit/? Redd*t

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 20:20:07 2019 No.12692616 >>12692578 >The English version sucks the living shit out of his poetry. so you're saying it makes it better?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 20:23:08 2019 No.12692629 File: 56 KB, 640x732, Thedark.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12692574 >Rilke Based.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 20:24:10 2019 No.12692634 MISTER VOYANT

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 20:25:03 2019 No.12692639 >>12692616 No, it makes it worse. It's not even cold like his original poetry is, but rather an awkward meaningless mess, as if it were done by som ESLfag. Spanish keeps the sharp and cool tone of it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 20:40:37 2019 No.12692715 boo the leer

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 20:48:34 2019 No.12692771 >no BLAKE >no VERLAINE >ppl saying rimbaud when baudelaire is the base for anything that followed >no germans/austrians the absolute state of lit

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 20:49:55 2019 No.12692781 >>12692771 >germans >poetry yikes

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 20:57:10 2019 No.12692827 I’m not French so probably Poe here. Though, he’s not the best of the English language poets either.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 21:01:23 2019 No.12692857 >>12692261 rimbaud wasn't gay. your to dumb for rimbaud

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 21:02:56 2019 No.12692866 >>12692857 >your to based

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 03:20:27 2019 No.12694374 >>12692857 >notorious acrimonious romance with another man >leaves wealth to African boy in his will >not gay Baudelaire is the real answer to this thread but the legend of Rimbaud is too strong for the faggots and pedos on /lit/ to resist.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 03:21:39 2019 No.12694377 >>12691217 My mind says Baudelaire, my heart says Rimbaud. wilde sucks prove me wrong

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 03:24:06 2019 No.12694389 Rimbaud, Poe, Baudelaire, Wilde

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 03:24:58 2019 No.12694392 >>12691217 Poe and it's not even close

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 03:25:08 2019 No.12694395 >>12692578 >I disagree. French translates better into Spanish th Maybe, but how likely is that scandi to know spanish?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 03:29:00 2019 No.12694410 me

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 04:36:44 2019 No.12694628 >>12694374 with another poet

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 04:46:10 2019 No.12694659 >>12691217 Baudelaire without a doubt, but why precisely these four?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 04:49:29 2019 No.12694667 >>12691217 >tfw Poe is too good for /lit/ plebes to grasp

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 04:51:46 2019 No.12694674 >>12694667 >tfw someone understands

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 04:54:22 2019 No.12694679 >>12692314 the skull shape on that lad

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 05:07:27 2019 No.12694711 File: 362 KB, 1084x1513, Pessoa_chapeu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12691217 only one that counts

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 05:52:31 2019 No.12694849 >>12694628 Why is poet on poet romance not gay? Poets are really gay, anon. Especially good poets.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 06:04:39 2019 No.12694887 >>12694849 like i said, this discourse is way above your level

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 06:05:15 2019 No.12694888 File: 222 KB, 800x1120, Tagore.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12694711 Aren't you forgetting someone?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 08:10:24 2019 No.12695216 >>12691217 Me

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 10:40:19 2019 No.12695781 >>12694888 based

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 11:20:58 2019 No.12695995 Baudelaire

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 12:34:51 2019 No.12696359 >>12691266 That was the choice of Baudelaire, though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 12:37:23 2019 No.12696372 >>12691217 Rimbaud > Baudelaire=Poe > Wilde

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 12:59:15 2019 No.12696449 >>12696359 He never explicitly said that Poe was better than him. Plus he didn't even know Rimbaud

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 13:04:23 2019 No.12696477 Anyone not saying Baudelaire is objetively wrong.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 16:29:33 2019 No.12697636 Rambo

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 17:47:20 2019 No.12698027 Poe by far https://youtu.be/-CvvG989iBI

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 17:51:42 2019 No.12698052 >>12691461 you absolute pleb

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 18:04:12 2019 No.12698105 >>12697636 >not posting a picture you killed it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 18:18:03 2019 No.12698174 >>12692337 lol k

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 20:17:19 2019 No.12698722 >>12694679 First thing I noticed too, made me uneasy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 20:18:49 2019 No.12698733 >>12694888 jesus?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 20:19:45 2019 No.12698739 >>12692314 Is this the incest guy ?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 20:23:13 2019 No.12698755 >>12692261 Poe was bad? How? Annabel Lee is a staggering poem. Inspired so much of Lolita, which was itself a staggering novel of its century.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 21:46:16 2019 No.12699121 Poe is both the most patrician & most pleb choice. Wilde is the obvious trash tier choice. Rimbaud in english is a snoozefest, but if you can read french/spanish/italian he's a respectable choice. Baud is a snoozefest in any langauge.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 21:48:30 2019 No.12699133 >>12699121 >Baud is a snoozefest in any langauge. Shit tier taste, my man. Consider suicide.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 22:07:22 2019 No.12699189 >>12691217 Someone give me English translations of Rimbaud right this instant! angrymoji pls, i wan to see what's so good abt him

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 22:13:29 2019 No.12699208 >>12699189 Just use a search engine, they are free and easy to find

Anonymous Mon Mar 4 04:57:36 2019 No.12700526

>>12699189
We are your grandparents,
Elders!
Bathed in the cold sweats
Of the moon and green pasture.
Our dry wines had guts!
Beneath the ingenious sun
What must man do? Drink.

Me – Die in barbarous rivers.

We are your grandparents,
Tillers!
Below the osier lies the water:
See it flowering in the moat
Around the dank Castle.
Let’s go down to our store-rooms;
Afterwards, cider or milk.

Me – Or drink with the cows.

We are your grandparents,
Hoarders
Of liqueur in cupboards. Try it!
Teas and Coffees, hard to come by,
Simmer in our kettles.
– Look at the pictures, the flowers.
We’re back from the cemetery.

Me – Ah, drain the urns dry!

In French :

Nous sommes tes Grands-Parents,
Les Grands !
Couverts des froides sueurs
De la lune et des verdures.
Nos vins secs avaient du coeur !
Au soleil sans imposture
Que faut-il à l'homme ? boire.

Moi - Mourir aux fleuves barbares.

Nous sommes tes Grands-Parents
Des champs.
L'eau est au fond des osiers :
Vois le courant du fossé
Autour du Château mouillé.
Descendons en nos celliers ;
Après, le cidre et le lait.

Moi - Aller où boivent les vaches.

Nous sommes tes Grands-Parents ;
Tiens, prends
Les liqueurs dans nos armoires ;
Le Thé, le Café, si rares,
Frémissent dans les bouilloires.
- Vois les images, les fleurs.
Nous rentrons du cimetière.

Moi - Ah ! tarir toutes les urnes !

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