/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.12684246]

What are those topics where 4chan is so fucking universally clueless, you have given up responding to people and correcting them?

For me, it's this idea that you can't get a good job with an arts or humanities degree.

[Anonymous No.12684253]

For me, it's the whole /r9k/ mentality

[Anonymous No.12684259]

commie NPCs

[Anonymous No.12684263]

>>12684246
Is this the thread where we air our opinions that we can't back up with reason or argument yet still want to present them as correct?

[Anonymous No.12684314]

>>12684246
I agree. Plenty of rich connected kids get jobs with their dad's friends firm despite having humanities degrees.

[Anonymous No.12684339]

Anything ultraism

[Anonymous No.12684364]

>>12684253
what mentality?

[Anonymous No.12684370]

>>12684253

Can you elaborate? Do you mean everyone on 4chan agrees or disagrees with it?

[Anonymous No.12684619]

>>12684253
How I interpret this is the err of
>all women are roasties
>mgtow as a cope for being incel
>muh kike on a stick
>people are inherently trapped from ascending their "caste" in western society
>everyone but me is wrong, that's why I'm alone
>fringe, extremist ideological (read: social and political) beliefs to justify their suffering a la misread Nietzsche
>ignoring the agony of their soul not fulfilling their desire to overcome suffering
>it's not wrong to be a neet because rebelling against "the man" is the right thing lmfao like these people have ever mattered in the eyes of anyone besides their mother
>somehow thinks that the way to best live is through [unknowingly being exploited by this same "the man"]
There are many others, but breaking out of this mindset did me nothing but good.

[Anonymous No.12684641]

>>12684619
Well at least they mattered to their mother, that's something not all of us can say

[Anonymous No.12684647]

>>12684246
Psychology

[Anonymous No.12684704]

>>12684246
Almost anything you could possibly ask. Without exaggeration.

[Anonymous No.12684708]

S o y

[Anonymous No.12684713]

>>12684619
The NEET one is true though

[Anonymous No.12684728]

>>12684713
It's a flimsy justification for remaining in a situation which is literally intolerable to most people, and still not pleasant for the NEET himself.

[Anonymous No.12684738]

>>12684619
Fuck yeah brother, enforce those norms. God, you're making me so hard.

[Anonymous No.12684749]

>>12684728
Modern life is intolerable.
>inb4 muh standards of living

[Anonymous No.12684759]

>>12684246
definitely these faggots >>12684732

[Anonymous No.12684760]

>>12684749
It's not intolerable if you're still here

[Anonymous No.12684769]

>>12684246
For me, it's philosophy. Specifically Kant/Hegel.

[Anonymous No.12684772]

>>12684738
>having a healthy relationship is the norm
>bettering yourself instead of being complacent is the norm
>taking political beliefs not to spite the "other" is the norm
>not consuming for the sole purpose of escapism is the norm
Please explain how anti-/r9k/ mentality is conformity.

[Anonymous No.12684778]

>>12684760
My suffering is bringing me closer to God

[Anonymous No.12684782]

>>12684619
>>12684728
Hit the nail right on the head

[Anonymous No.12684787]

>>12684782
No he didn’t

[Anonymous No.12684799]

>>12684778
Maybe it is. Maybe that makes life more tolerable. But claiming your NEEThood is the same as political dissent is actually a fairly despicable way of justifying a lack of engagement with the world around you. If modern life is intolerable why wouldn't you try to change it? or at least to change your own circumstances?

[Anonymous No.12684802]

>>12684246
for me, the blonde one is the bitch

[Anonymous No.12684804]

Evolution tbqh

[Anonymous No.12684815]

Stoicism never fails to bring out the hot takes from ignorant people who think they know what they're about. The only thing worse are the "I'm an atheist, debate me" types who don't understand any of the religious texts or arguments for God's existence but they genuinely think they do so they're unwilling to be corrected on anything. People just need to be humble and stop pretending they know what they don't.

[Anonymous No.12684818]

>>12684787
There are no happy NEETs. NEET philosophy exists to keep NEET egos from being crushed.

[Anonymous No.12684828]

>>12684815
This is actually the worst thing about 4chan. People feel the need to look like they know literally everything so they develop an interest in Marxism, or Kant, or IQ, or far-right conspiracy theories and obstinately defend their new hobby to all of their angriest friends, never giving an inch.

[Anonymous No.12684843]

>>12684818
NEETs have surrendered their ego. If they hadn’t they would have gone back to school or taken a seminar on flipping houses or some bs

[Anonymous No.12684844]

>>12684799
Because the amount of effort required outweighs what you get.

[Anonymous No.12684846]

Economics, the vast majority of any of the so called 'smart' (/lit/ /sci/ /his/) boards do not understand it on any worthwhile level

[Anonymous No.12684855]

>>12684844
So life is actually just tolerable enough to prevent any real dissent?

[Anonymous No.12684860]

>>12684846
Yeah but you can make a respectable economics thread on /sci/.

That’s really the only worthwhile board to discuss it on. I think it does have literary merit but no one here knows anything about non-fiction outside of philosophy.

And even then try like Plato-like stuff, not the very meaningful categorizations of metaphysicians like Aristotle.

They like to navel-gaze. It’s pedantic, really

[Anonymous No.12684861]

>>12684246
on one hand unworldly left-wing autism
on the other hand the notion that all things wrong in the world are caused by one single centralized jewish psyop (even though i still consider the JQ to be absolutely legitimate)
the narrow mindedness of french philosophy pseuds and freud-/lacanfags

[Anonymous No.12684873]

>>12684860
seething ANALytic stemtard detected

[Anonymous No.12684888]

>>12684873
It’s not like everyone falls into two categories. Everyone knows it is more enjoyable to read Plato.

But few know how much more enjoyable it is to understand Aristotle.

It’s a subtle distinction.

[Anonymous No.12684925]

>>12684888
Based
Plato's Republic is an embarrassment

[Anonymous No.12685009]

>>12684855
Comfortably numb.

[Anonymous No.12685084]

>>12684925
Now I never said that. Plato’s Republic and Laws are both masterpieces.

But they are not antithetical to Aristotle. That would be a childish assertion.

[Anonymous No.12685092]

>>12684246
4chan knows nothing about women

[Anonymous No.12685094]

>>12685092
Now this is a nonsensical statement.

I wouldn’t be so childish to assume if I knew something or not compared with roughly thousands of internet strangers per day.

That would be knowing nothing.

[Anonymous No.12685231]

>>12684246
Christianity, both the history of the church and any kind of systematic theology/Biblical doctrine.

[Anonymous No.12685235]

>>12685092
>t. roastie

[Anonymous No.12686724]

>>12685231
Every so often, there are some decent discussions about Christianity on /his/.

[Anonymous No.12686727]

Pretty much everything desu

[Anonymous No.12686733]

>>12684778
Modern life isn't suffering... At all.
It sounds cliche as fuck but 10 year old kids are fighting in Africa and the Middle East.

[Anonymous No.12686740]

>>12684738
Of course the /r9k/ incel can't sincerely express himself and needs to filter his language in humor to add a level of "irony".

[Anonymous No.12686747]

>>12686740
>/r9k/ incel
damn she got you good, anon.

[Anonymous No.12686765]

>>12684860
This. My favourite example of this is where anons were trying to figure out what DFW was saying in a passage of the lobster because none of them knew what assets, liabilities, or equity was. 80 posts into the thread somebody finally responded answering, and at least three anons responded "why does DFW need to go into such detail?". Embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.12686772]

>>12686765
Consider the lobster

[Anonymous No.12686775]

>>12686747
Who is the one more injured by women, the incel or the one free of resentment?

[Anonymous No.12686788]

>>12686775
>she thinks people are "injured" by her comments
you're taking yourself way too seriously to be posting here.

[Anonymous No.12686795]

>>12686788
>someone called me an incel so they must be a roastie
Flawless logic. If I call you a retard for supporting Trump and Israel does that make a me a tranny muslim?

[Anonymous No.12686807]

>>12684619
>muh kike on a stick
I mean what's wrong with that one?
>being a slave morality christcuck

[Anonymous No.12686808]

>>12686795
anon, i'm sitting somewhere in the alps while scratching my head and wondering where the fuck you're going with this.

[Anonymous No.12686813]

>>12686795
On an anonymous board, where your identity isn't supposed to matter, every argument quickly turn into people who will never meet making baseless assumptions about each other in order to call each other dumb, made up names. Its one of the reasons this place is irredeemable.

[Anonymous No.12686817]

>>12684619
Are you me?

[Anonymous No.12686827]

>>12686808
Idk that was my first post in this reply chain

>>12686813
Anon was criticizing the /r9k/ mentality, it is well known fact that most posters on that board are incels with a deep resentment of women. No need to get upset.

[Anonymous No.12686838]

>>12684759
>""poetry""
>doesn't rhyme or sound pretty

[Anonymous No.12686845]

I've had sex with 26 women in my life and none of them were prostitutes, yet i still concur with the notion that bitches ain't shit but tits and clit, so please take your ever so smart "heh, gotcha" line back to whatever subreddit you came from.

[Anonymous No.12686864]

>>12686733
Democracy and human rights are suffering. A truly just society would allow the strong to eliminate as many of the weak as he feels like.

[Anonymous No.12686880]

>>12685235
>roastie
Daily reminder that anyone who uses this term has never seen a vagina

[Anonymous No.12686889]

>>12686880
I think you just want that to be the case because it bothers you. Getting pussy is the easiest thing in the world so stop acting like it's an accomplishment.

[Anonymous No.12686892]

>>12686880
keep telling yourself that, it's a magnificent word, probably one of 4channels finest neologistic moments.

[Anonymous No.12686895]

>>12686864
Which would be you, right? You totally wouldn't get fucking obliterated in the first 5 minutes, right?

[Anonymous No.12686902]

>>12686845
>have meaningless sex with 2 dozen lose, shallow women
>wonder why they're all trifling ass hoes
>welp, must be that all women are trifling ass hoes
No retard, it's just the women you're fucking.

[Anonymous No.12686910]

>>12684246
All forms of moralfaggotry, Holocaust denial, pretending feet aren’t superior to arse or boobs or whatever subhumans like these days

[Anonymous No.12686918]

>>12686902
Or you could just look at marriage and divorce statistics and come to the same conclusion.

[Anonymous No.12686919]

>>12686880
daily reminder to shut the fuck up you stupid fucking roastie

[Anonymous No.12686935]

>>12686902
not that guy but these women being loose and shallow is just asshurt speculation on your part since we know nothing about the details of these encounters. also, it's funny how you flipped the record and dropped the narrative that it's only incels who don't put females on a pedestal. textbook example of mental gymnastics.

[Anonymous No.12686953]

>>12686827
I was referring to the assumption that he/she was a "roastie."

[Anonymous No.12686958]

>>12686889
>>12686892
>>12686919
all this butthurt. Looks like I hit a nerve

[Anonymous No.12686971]

>>12686958
Heh, people responded to me. Looks like I won.

[Anonymous No.12686973]

>>12686918
Why couldn't I come to that conclusion about men?
>>12686892
Anything made by incels should only be handled with tongs

[Anonymous No.12686975]

>>12684246
For the average 4chan type it is good advice

[Anonymous No.12686978]

>>12686973
Because women initiate most of the divorces.

[Anonymous No.12686983]

>>12686973
>Anything made by incels should only be handled with tongs

[Anonymous No.12686985]

>>12686978
Yeah, because the men are sleeping with whores and drinking all the money.

[Anonymous No.12686997]

>>12686985
If women weren't so awful men wouldn't have to act that way.

[Anonymous No.12687000]

>>12686997
They were doing it before they got married.

[Anonymous No.12687001]

>>12686973
This is getting cringe. You talk like butthurt person instead of smug person. Bad idea

[Anonymous No.12687005]

>>12687000
Doing it with who? Other women, so there you go.

[Anonymous No.12687006]

>>12686985
Wow, how truly fucking evil...

[Anonymous No.12687014]

This thread shows that women is the achilles' heel of 4channel at least.

[Anonymous No.12687016]

>>12687005
Yeah, so they're both shit.
>>12686997
Women are so awful that men HAVE to sleep with OTHER women?
>>12687006
It's pretty bad to be a drug addict and/or cheat on your wife yeah.

[Anonymous No.12687021]

>>12687014
why? "you're wrong because something something incel" isn't the knockout argument you're making it up to be. it's just a variation of "someone hasn't been hugged for a while".

[Anonymous No.12687036]

>>12687016
>It's pretty bad to be a drug addict and/or cheat on your wife yeah.

Says who?

[Anonymous No.12687037]

>>12687021
This thread doesn't 'prove' women are the bane of 4channel because that was already true. Even the non-incels freak out and go bug-eyed when someone reveals they're a woman. Half the discussions on this board go "are women evil? Options: yes or YES"

[Anonymous No.12687044]

>>12687021
Because you cannot talk about women without people getting uppity about it. Like (You), assuming I posted either of these things.

[Anonymous No.12687045]

>>12687036
You're right, drug addicts aren't all bad, but betrayal, especially of someone who trusted you enough to marry you, is fucked up

[Anonymous No.12687058]

>>12687045
Says who?

[Anonymous No.12687089]

>>12684364

>Life sucks (not right now, in general)

>I'm angry (not at anything specific, but in general)

>I cannot improve myself (When asked why they accept living like a sad sack of shit)

>When I can improve myself, I don't want to (hygiene; social, personal, or work-skills, etc.)

>I hate other people different who are different than me (This is an umbrella point, so pick a handful or all of: race, religion, education, geography, sex, gender, income, age, hobbies, profession)

>I have substantial sexual hangups and have made these hangups a moderately core part of my identity

>I refuse to change my views on any of the above points, or see a therapist to try to work out these issues

[Anonymous No.12687107]

>>12687037
if you consider that the rest of the internet is plastered with moaning about literal conspiracy theories like "toxic masculinity", nonsensical articles about how "the future is female" anticipating the abolishment of old, white men or muh patriarchy, it's no surprise that places like this are a total contrast.

also, in western culture, regardless whether online or irl, there are almost no more platforms left where men can socialize among themselves (in a non-gay way), while women are being awarded with more and more wymyn only venues where they're free to do their power yoga vagina monologue readings in absence of the evil stares of ugly incels and other undesirables.

there's no bonus points for you here just because you're a woman and don't expect anons to restrain themselves just because m'lady wants it so. if you can't deal with the abrasive and unfiltered nature of discourse here, just get the fuck out.

[Anonymous No.12687116]

>>12686813
This gets even worse when boards have flags added. Knowing where the other guy's from is the opposite of anonymity.

[Anonymous No.12687122]

>>12687107
People have made the comparisons between 4chan and tumblr before, but calling it a "total contrast" still seems like a reach. There are 2 threads on this one board simultaneously, which is supposedly about books, that are entirely made up of slut-shaming one woman who isn't very famous.

If you think there "aren't many platforms" where men can socialize, then you just don't get out much, which is also true of many of the people here.

[Anonymous No.12687123]

>>12687122
>slut-shaming

[Anonymous No.12687126]

>>12687116
Yes, and so you're not reduced to making ridiculous assumptions. Someone here assumed that I was Australian because I used the words "cunt" and "mate" in the same post, and tried to use it for an insult. When everyone's anonymous, people just assume your a woman or a tranny if they don't like you.

[Anonymous No.12687132]

>>12687116
the advantage is you can directly ignore posts from france and the uk for your mental hygiene's sake.
>>12687122
>slut shaming
>then you just don't get out much
you're clearly not from here.

[Anonymous No.12687139]

>>12687123
Any words minted by incels are the real cancer. If you think in incelspeak then your mind is a hell.

[Anonymous No.12687140]

>>12687126
>Someone here assumed that I was Australian because I used the words "cunt" and "mate" in the same post, and tried to use it for an insult.
Fuck off pom shithead

[Anonymous No.12687141]

>>12687126
>When everyone's anonymous, people just assume your a woman or a tranny if they don't like you.
Says a lot about you if people are mistaking you for a woman or a tranny.
You sound like a fucking crybaby, hurl yourself off the nearest cliff asap.

[Anonymous No.12687143]

>>12687140
No thank you

[Anonymous No.12687148]

>>12687141
That part's not about me. People just do that all the time here.
>crybaby
Isn't this the website for butthurt racists? Everyone here's a crybaby.

[Anonymous No.12687157]

>>12687148
No, this is laotian eel kiosk.

[Anonymous No.12687162]

>>12687107
>there are almost no more platforms left where men can socialize among themselves
Joke's on you me and my mates are always bereft of female company no matter where we go.

[Anonymous No.12687164]

>>12687122
>then you just don't get out much
please name these platforms, instead of producing mild insults

[Anonymous No.12687165]

>>12687148
>Isn't this the website for butthurt racists?
Odd non-sequitur. Seems those racists are residing in your head rent-free

[Anonymous No.12687170]

>>12687139
imagine saying based, roastie or red-pilled in real life to like a cashier or something and then having to excavate the levels or irony necessary to try to explain it and realizing oh it's not ironic, i've joined a modern day support group for autism and been propagandized by what they say through a mutual bonding over misogyny and anti-semitism

[Anonymous No.12687175]

>>12687164
I live in the Bronx currently and there are a lof of cigar joints and bars where women just won't go in. Their full of latinos and fat ethnic white guys. Most places in the world have these kinds of venues, if you can't find yours, either you live in a pretty clean place or you don't go outside very much.

[Anonymous No.12687177]

>>12687170
based

[Anonymous No.12687180]

>>12687170
>explaining yourself to a cashier

[Anonymous No.12687182]

>>12687165
No they're elsewhere on the board accusing Savanna Brown of miscegenation.

[Anonymous No.12687185]

>>12687175
HA HAHAHAHA! the bronx? Jesus, you live in a shitty neighborhood full of mongrel subhumans. your a fucking pathetic loser. go fuck yourself.

[Anonymous No.12687187]

>>12687185
Rent's cheap, it's near Manhattan. Where do you live?

[Anonymous No.12687189]

>>12687175
>you live in a pretty clean place
They're not hard to find even in suburbia. Just look for the nearest bar where the staff shows up to work stoned.

[Anonymous No.12687193]

>>12687187
nobody cares where you live, this is not your personal blog

[Anonymous No.12687198]

>>12687193
Well I can't point out where the men-only bars are where the other anonymous poster lives. I asked where you live. What state? I do care.

[Anonymous No.12687201]

what's with the redditoresque tone here all of a sudden?

[Anonymous No.12687203]

>>12687201
hey, no slut-shaming! You just don't get out much.

[Anonymous No.12687208]

>points to bar that mobsters use for money laundering purposes
>here's your new hangout bro

[Anonymous No.12687232]

>>12687208
What are you scared? Not everyone who looks like they're from the Sopranos is a mobster.

[Anonymous No.12687234]

>>12687232
I want to go to a place with pretty women and no criminals or ugly mongrel people.

[Anonymous No.12687239]

>>12687234
>No girls
>but pretty girls
>and tough men
>but no scary men

[Anonymous No.12687240]

>>12687234
pretty women & no criminals = independently owned bookstore / independently owned coffee shop

ugly mongrels = bowling alley / dave & busters

[Anonymous No.12687244]

>>12687201
Most people on here find incels vaguely annoying or amusing—there’s an art to plumbing the depths of patheticness that you see on r9k, a macabre whimsy. Other people, for one reason or another, just can’t get over it. Some kind of jammed gear, brain-error. Maybe it’s a normalising instinct. There are some people that are genuinely bothered by the presence of depraved or ill-disposed or socially unacceptable elements here. I don’t get it. I would hate if the population or culture of /r9k/ were present on /lit/ in large numbers, but they’re not.

[Anonymous No.12687245]

>>12687232
>are you scared
definite yikes from me man

[Anonymous No.12687246]

>>12684619
This whole post is just one enormous strawman.

[Anonymous No.12687250]

>>12687244

[Anonymous No.12687253]

>>12686795
Not him but you're the one who opened up with the baseless ad hominem attempts. He's not wrong for firing back at you, you're the one who brought the dialogue down to the mud to begin with. Now you're doing literal "cry out in pain while I strike you" type shit.

[Anonymous No.12687254]

>>12687240
>independently owned bookstore >independently owned coffee shop
those are usually one big vice news reader circlejerk

[Anonymous No.12687259]

>>12687254
Yeah but the girls are sometimes pretty & there aren't any criminals

[Anonymous No.12687262]

>>12687253
The conversation was already in the mud. This isn't even a literature thread. I'm a bit surprised its still here after almost a whole day.

[Anonymous No.12687297]

the fact that there's a place in your neighborhood where there supposedly are no women isn't even relevant. anon has a point if he mentions a broad scale decrease in traditional places for the everyman from the neighborhood to gather and reinforce social cohesion. there's a reason why more and more people are becoming alienated and chosing to retreat into their rooms and live the doomer lifestyle. being a smug cunt and trying to reframe that as some fringe phenomenon is either dishonest or an indicator that the person in question isn't going out much themselves.
also:
>new yorkers
dropped

[Anonymous No.12687305]

>>12687262
I'm surprised no one has killed you or beaten you up because you sound like a massive redditor queer boy who takes it up the ass.