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Will to Power doesn't make sense
Since, Will is Power.

>> No.12681086

>>12681048
I think will exerted successfully is power over oneself; perhaps 'will to' in Nietzsche's instance means something like 'wish for' --the wish for power over others, which of course sounds gay.

>> No.12681094

>>12681048
>will is power
Lol, tell that to all the stubborn ass criminals on death row.

Strong will != ability to execute upon said will.

>> No.12681132

>>12681094
Power is Virtuous
Good Will is Virtuous
Bad Will is not virtuous

See where I'm going with this?
Criminals do not have "power", they are subordinate to their passions.
But passions are removed from the heart by ration, thus purifying their will and becomming their Power.


>>12681086
Will is the Heart of the Man
The Heart of the Man is power

>> No.12681232

>>12681132
I think Courage is the heart of man
No guarantees
But courage does involve will, or the decision to do
But again, who knows?
What Nietzsche possesses in Spades in his writing he lacked dreadfully in person: charisma, which of course is the key

>> No.12681260
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>>12681232
Are you a nihilist?
Because I'm not speaking on these terms, I use an objective idea of morality and truth

>> No.12681264

>>12681048
Will is power under pressure, not actual power.

>> No.12681276

>>12681048
OP doesn't make sense, OP's a faggot

>> No.12681294

>>12681276
Refute it.

>>12681264
If you want to go that route it's the other way around

It's will under ration which is power.

>> No.12681342

>>12681232
Well, I would say charisma and courage go hand in hand, but I think Charisma and courage are simply outputs of Ones will, not inputs that define ones power.

>> No.12681579

>>12681260
I'm not a nihilist in the sense that I do believe in a right and a wrong and try to live my life in accord with my beliefs
But this is an excetionally hard thing to do
If will is power then morally it's indifferent for the simple reason that it's possible to will the bad every bit as much as it is to will the good, it's even possible to will the bad while believing one wills the good and this is probably even the norm given sin, which is inescapable

>> No.12681623

>>12681342
I think charisma is an endemic power more or less unsought (i.e. unwilled) by the few persons who actually possess it. In other words, a gift.

>> No.12682545

>>12681623
Charisma is earned my friend, it is instilled by virtues.

You probably believe in the Chad meme?

>> No.12683972

>>12682545
No, but I do believe in the Napoleon Bonaparte reality more or less. Charisma's rare.