[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/lit/ - Literature


View post   

File: 51 KB, 799x449, Iago.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12638700 No.12638700 [Reply] [Original]

Okay /lit/, time to talk about your favorite Shakespeare adaptations, be it theater or big screen pictures, don't matter.

>> No.12638752
File: 65 KB, 700x394, romeo + juliet.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12638752

I unironically believe that the Baz Luhrmann '96 "Romeo + Juliet" is a fantastic work of art.

>> No.12638763

>>12638752
visually and in world-conception, yes
the acting is wretched

>> No.12638768

>>12638763
The acting, as bad or as over the top as it was, is a piece of what makes the movie so great.

>> No.12638775

>>12638700
Naked Tempest in Central Park

>> No.12638778

>>12638768
i guess i get a little fussy and nervous so close to the edge of meta-narrative

>> No.12638800

>>12638778
The idea of Shakespeare's actual lines being performed almost badly by a young, inexperienced DiCaprio et al, with that fashion sense is actually sublime.

>> No.12638815

Tromeo and Juliet is the best adaptation ever put on film

>> No.12638835

Whatever that one Romeo and Juliet is that they show in English class where she’s naked.

>> No.12638849

>>12638700
Gamlet
Macbeth on youtube with Ian McKellan
Olivier's Richard III

>> No.12638856
File: 974 KB, 500x206, whoaeasyleo.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12638856

>>12638800
well i know what i'm playing at work tonight

>> No.12638858
File: 208 KB, 268x402, 268x0w.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12638858

>> No.12638859
File: 145 KB, 1440x750, kenbranhamlet.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12638859

>>12638700

It's not the best that goes to Olivier, but I dig his Hamlet production.

>> No.12638877

I really liked all of Kenneth Branagh’s film adaptations. Yes I sat through all of Hamlet. In the theatre. Real even film.

And Akira Kurosawa’s Ran, though it’s a reimagining of Lear.

The recent MacBeth film was pretty good, but they whispered so much of it, it was hard to follow

>> No.12638885

>>12638877
Event film

>> No.12638890
File: 88 KB, 1200x675, maan.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12638890

Whedon's take on Much Ado About Nothing needs more love,
it really nails the comedy

>> No.12638910

>>12638858
lol I watched this
It was so awful

>> No.12638914

>>12638890
I've been interested in checking this one out - does it use Shakespeare's script, but in a modern setting?

>> No.12638916

>>12638890
fillion is so good as dogberry, and lenk does a hell of a lot with very little as verges. the two of them together sell the whole film.

>> No.12638995

>>12638914
pretty much, all filmed in one location too and on a shoestring budget

>> No.12638996

>>12638700
Favorite modern adaption is Coriolanus (2011)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwYCq53vmNY

Lawrence Olivier's Hamlet is the best cinematic adaption of Shakespeare
His Richard III adaption is also perfect

>>12638752
I absolutely despise Baz Luhrmann, atrocious director. His "style" reminds me of the NBC sitcom "Scrubs" or lowbrow 1990s Italian sex comedies--not glamorous dramas. He is incapable of displaying any emotion other than wonder and amazement at his own faggish tackiness

In 9th grade my half-retarded English teacher taught THE SCRIPT TO THE 1996 MOVIE rather than the actual play. The more I think about it the more angry I get. She literally went out of her way to IGNORE the widely available, single most famous play in the history of the English language in order to teach her students a much harder to locate script--which is nearly identical to that of the original play--but this time with helicopters, gunfights, and newscasters

>> No.12639007
File: 5 KB, 190x153, Apu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12639007

>>12638700
I feel Shakespeare is like Mozart. Like his ideas are so pervasive in literature, direct quotations and adaptations are ubiquitous. It feels like its very difficult to appreciate Shakespeare objectively. Is this just me or do you think I have a point?

>> No.12639012
File: 52 KB, 648x295, macbeth.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12639012

>>12638700
Polanski's "Macbeth" has always been my favorite.

>> No.12639020

>>12638752
I hate this movie so goddamn much.

>> No.12639023

>>12638996
olivier's hamlet is dull, a one-note affair with no emotional levels beyond despondency and anger
totally fails to find the character's arc and follow it, instead reproduces the most obvious received interpretation

>> No.12639029

>>12638752
I rather like "Romeo + Juliet." Modernized Shakespeare is inherently stupid; Luhrmann takes that and runs with it rather than living in denial.

>> No.12639032

>>12638995
Great, just what I wanted to hear. I'll have to check it out soon. The whole modern setting + legitimate lines is fantastic to me.

>>12638996
>I absolutely despise Baz Luhrmann, atrocious director. His "style" reminds me of the NBC sitcom "Scrubs" or lowbrow 1990s Italian sex comedies--not glamorous dramas. He is incapable of displaying any emotion other than wonder and amazement at his own faggish tackiness
Total disagreement. It doesn't feel cheap to me at all - it's entirely over the top and it so often clashes with the source history or material (like his Moulin Rouge and Gatsby, but I think that's part of why I like it so much - the sheer difference between his absolutely shallow, surface level stylings and settings and costume designs paired against the subtle and profound source material. Your teacher sounds like a dumb cunt, though.

With all that said, Sofia Coppola out-did Luhrmann at his own game with her "Marie Antoinette".

>> No.12639044
File: 151 KB, 1520x945, wat.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12639044

>>12639023
You don't know despondent and one-note until you've seen Orson Welles's "Macbeth."

>> No.12639105
File: 880 KB, 1934x1106, zeffirelli.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12639105

Zeffirelli's Romeo & Juliet is a cinematographic masterpiece. Here was the creation of the quickzoom shot, which will now be championed by creativity-empty youtubers for the next hundred years. Let it be known that Zeffirelli did it first, and best.

>> No.12639159
File: 35 KB, 350x520, r&c.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12639159

>> No.12639169
File: 107 KB, 1000x728, Throne-3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12639169

>>12638877
Ran was great but Kurosawa's version of Macbeth was GOAT

>> No.12639217

>>12638858
My little sister watched this on YouTube at least 5 times after watching it once in the cinema and once on TV

>> No.12639223

>>12638700
Macbeth w/ Fassbender and Cotillard

>> No.12639230

>>12638775
Ewwww

>> No.12639381

>>12639223
Fantastic visually, but not my favorite Macbeth. Think I'd go with Kurosawa's Throne of Blood.

>>12639007
I don't really understand your post, are you saying Shakespeare shouldn't be adapted because his works are perfect as they are and it's hard to translate their magic to the big screen or are you saying you have a difficult time with appreciating him objectively because of his status and the fact that he is referenced ad nauseam?

>> No.12639393
File: 90 KB, 1106x1012, G800S15.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12639393

Polanski's Macbeth, Wheedon's Much Ado About Nothing, the Mel Gibson Hamlet, the Ralph Fiennes Coriolanus, the Laurence Olivier Richard III, Orson Welles' Falstaff

>> No.12639419

>>12639105
Visually Zefferelli’s Romeo and Juliet was a treat but I thought the reading of Mercutio’s Queen Mab speech was all wrong

>> No.12639466

>>12639159
>reads Waiting for Godot once

>> No.12639495
File: 94 KB, 195x189, 1501817358548.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12639495

>>12638700
Upstart Crow feat. David Mitchell and that lesbian chick from Game of Thrones

>> No.12639503

>>12639419
some interpretive license allowed there, i think. mcenery's merc seems to have been imagined with trauma-related neuroses, and that comes out in the mab speech especially ('Of breaches, ambuscadoes, Spanish blades...'). sometimes it's affecting, other times it grates.

>> No.12639568

>>12638752
I liked it.

>> No.12639588
File: 230 KB, 1160x629, trumpcaesar.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12639588

>>12638700

>> No.12639606

>>12639588
blegh

>> No.12639643

>>12638700
Ian McKellens Richard iii, great atmosphere of interwar Britain, bankside power station as the tower, queen Anne as Wallis Simpson. And an inspired opening scene.

>> No.12639657

This thread surprisingly took off quite fast for a board like /lit/, nice!

>> No.12639665

Brando truly was the GOAT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X9C55TkUP8

>>12639643
Ian McKellen is perhaps my favorite Shakespearean actor, dude knows his shit.

>> No.12639899

Laurence Olivier did a production of Lear for the BBC back in the 70’s.
It was low budget and bare bones scenery but I thought he gave a tremendous performance as Lear and John Hurt was awesome as The Fool.

The cute gril from the old Avengers was one of the bad daughters and the guy who played Kent was the Runpole of the Bailey guy.

>> No.12639913

>>12639899
Whoops Leo McKern played Gloucester not Kent and Diana Rigg played Regan

>> No.12639926

>>12639381
No, I'm saying that our culture is so saturated with the mythical figure of Shakespeare and his most important ideas, that its hard to actually come to terms with the level of his genius. And I draw a comparison to Mozart because I realize I'm still working on hearing a masterwork like Symphony 40 objectively, because of cultural over-saturation.

>> No.12639937 [DELETED] 

>>12639169
I was!

>>12639230
All female cast

>> No.12639943

>>12639169
It was!

>>12639230
All female cast. Makes it all better.

>> No.12639953
File: 48 KB, 466x659, images (5).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12639953

>> No.12640013

>>12639943
i hope someone strangles you and records it so you can be laughed at for all posterity

>> No.12641180

>>12638700
I wish I could find the full version of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDPT2e26SgY

>> No.12641251

>>12638752
We had to watch this in English class. God it was a pain, especially because ESL and you don't understand half of it and all the girls just swooned over Leo. In my review I thought about complaining about the ''negro tranny'' but I didn't have the balls to. Baz Luhrman is an atrocious director, I fucking hate every single thing of his I've seen.

>> No.12641265

>>12639606
Doesn't casting Trump as Caesar imply that attempts to solve all of society's problems by getting rid of Trump are misguided?

(I'm assuming that you're "blegh"-ing from a pro-Trump perspective, given that this is /lit/.)

>> No.12641270
File: 2.05 MB, 1600x900, 3-7.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12641270

Mainly because I watched it as a kid and it's a comfy af. Not sure why but something always brings me back to this film. They should've kept the dick joke in though.

>> No.12641275

>>12641265
Not him but he's probably just tired of the general obsession everybody has with Trump, to the point where he's even showing up in Shakespeare adaptations

>> No.12641288
File: 67 KB, 1006x760, sia.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12641288

>>12638752
based and fpbppilled. Pete Postlethwaite made a great Friar Lawrence. And it has what's his name, the character actor who played Arthur Dales on The X-Files as the chemist.

>>12638700
I loved Irons and Pacino in Merchant of Venice. It's an amazing film, with a beautiful and erudite Portia played by Lynn Collins. Also very good: Fiennes' Coriolanus. And the film Much Ado About Nothing with Keaton as Dogberry was great.

I haven't liked Hamlet yet, not BBC/PatStew's version or the retarded early 2000s American version.

>> No.12641356
File: 737 KB, 880x1464, tybaltandmaria.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12641356

>>12641265
not that anon but trump is actually a good president so far. trumphate is an uncritical phenomenon, a flash in the pan driven by propagandists who profit from your outrage with the side benefit for the DNC of controlling what you believe.

Trump is not a Caesar. I would blergh because anyone involved in a production where orange man bad tells me the writers are fucking lazy or so far up their own ass they shouldn't be lecturing anyone about politics.