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What should I read bwforw I tackle this?

>> No.12616916

>>12616830
Literally any other book. In fact, read that instead.

>> No.12616978

my diary

>> No.12617106
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The Laws of Imitation by Gabriel Tarde

>> No.12617322

bump

>> No.12617372

>>12616830
make this book your bible, and dedicate your life to understanding it, until you finally understand it.

>> No.12617378

>>12616830
the dictionary you dumb faggot

>> No.12617480

bump

>> No.12617962

I can't think of a single good reason anyone could possibly find to spend more than 20-25 minutes glancing through this book while sitting on the toilet

Why the fuck does this piece of shit book even exist?

>> No.12617974

if these philosophers are as bad as you claim they are, i wonder how the heck they become famous at all. is it that easy? i mean, being famous is such a limited arena. so few people receive the stage. imagine having your books published, all over the world, imagine being interviewed, photographed, spoken about on the internet...i wouldnt be able to handle it. It'd be too surreal. all those people who know my name? wow. but anyway, whether these philosophers are good or not, i hope they appreciate their limelight, it's not at all an easy position to obtain

>> No.12617987

>>12617974
how did Anita Sarkeesian become (((famous)))

>> No.12618018

Alright I'll say just read this instead:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Difference_and_Repetition

If I'm wrong, maybe so. but in my opinion D+R is overrated. it's a sophomoric early work that isn't as good as his later ones. it's a desperate attempt of a grad student to impress his teachers.

it's not bad philosophy, but you really don't need to read the book. the wikipedia page or a good summary will do the job.

correct me if i'm wrong

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Difference_and_Repetition

>> No.12618034

>>12616830
You should not tackle Deleuze. He is a brainlet and a poser and a philosopher-as-performance-art pseud. Read literally anything else.

>> No.12618049

>>12617106
Seems based, is it redpilled?

>> No.12618053

>>12618034
But how do these types get famous at all? Is my query.

>> No.12618086

>>12618053
Deleuze became famous because he attached his metaphysics to contemporary political movements and reinvented himself as a darling of New Left French students. Every political movement needs fables to provide a mythology as to why they are right. Deleuze stepped in and did that with the New Left. All metaphysics is sufficiently complex and alien to appear as mythology to the uninitiated, Deleuze supplied the New Left with their myths.

That aside he is a legitimate philosopher and D&R is his pre-New Left metaphysics exposition.

>> No.12618099

>>12618086
>political philosophy of the 20th century
>legitimate

>> No.12618111

>>12618099
His metaphysics, not his politics. I mean obviously not being neo-Platonism it is objectivly wrong, but it is a genuine attempt.

>> No.12618124

>>12618086
Deleuze is not a political thinker, he is more of an ANTI-political thinker. Stop perpetuating that shit meme, and consider actually reading his works.
>but his works are historically traceable to these events and he seems to be talking about the state a lot...how is that not politics?
ARE YOU A SIMPLETON? IT IS A MAP. IF WE FOLLOW THIS LINE, WE END UP IN A BLACK HOLE OF POLITICS. "EVERYTHING IS POLITICS, GRASSHOPPERS EATING CROPS IS POLITICS, THE HEAT DEATH OF THE UNIVERSE IS POLITICS" STUPID STUPID STUPID

>> No.12618143

>>12618124
He prostituted his philosophy to turn tricks for a political movement to earn his fame as one of the performance monkeys in their pantheon.

>> No.12618276

>>12618143
1) one does what he must to attain immortality
2) based.

>> No.12618286

Avoid French authors at all cost

>> No.12618308

>>12618018
WRONG
>change "wikipedia page" to "good secondary source"
ok

>> No.12619217

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>> No.12619393

Bump

>> No.12619556

Bump

>> No.12619602

>>12618034
I actually don't agree with this.

Deleuze might be considered a leftist, but in a way he is better thought of as an anti-authoritarian. That's not necessarily leftist.

Much of his philosophy is based around the idea of the "line of flight." It's some pretty crazy shit, actually. A Thousand Plateaus is a good book.

That said, it's not something I would get into unless you're a "far out" type. It's not necessarily something you want to play with.

Some of his books are more academic, D+R is one of them. Personally I don't think there is much reason to read it because it fits into a context of what was going on in 1968 in France. AKA trash.

That said I do think A Thousand Plateaus, some of his other books stand on their own as good works of literature that go above and beyond the era. ATP is up there with Being and Time as a great work for the 20th century.

>> No.12619611

>>12619602
ATP is good, his books on Cinema are excellent. Cant speak to D+R. It should be noted deleuze's corpus is not some unified and consistent thing, he went through a handful of theoretical/compositional changes throughout his writing career.

Also,

REDDIT

SPACING

>> No.12619648

>>12619611
I'm one of a very small number of people who is allowed to use Reddit spacing.

>> No.12619860

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>> No.12620145

Bump

>> No.12620272

>>12616830
Difference and Repetition is great if you want just the concentrated Deleuze without sorting through the 68 ness of Anti Oedipus or the specificity of later books. It's an attempt at a kind of immanent metaphysics, a 'Nietzschean metaphysics', which is obviously tricky but the guy was smart and made a good run at it. It substitutes difference for identity as a 'primary' underpinning and makes allowances for a sort of Spinozan unity of substance while also maintaining room for something that at least looks like discrete identity for 'individuals'. Repetition is redefined too as something pertinent to the experience of self-recognition in art or literature from a very different time and place.

>> No.12620480

Bump

>> No.12620502

>>12616830
>it's not that simple;

>> No.12620536

my lips

>> No.12620555

>>12617106
>there are now spurdo variations of Gabriel Tarde

What a time to be alive!

>> No.12620566

>>12620555
it was a long late night and the originary thread only got three or four replies
pretty disappointing, don't expect much from it.

>> No.12620823

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>> No.12620847

>>12617974
>i hope they appreciate their limelight
Deleuze killed himself (or at the very least fell out the window with terminal lung cancer), so make of that what you will

>> No.12620855

>>12618124
Based and absolutely deterritorialised

>> No.12621031

bump

>> No.12621563

Bump

>> No.12621887

>>12620566
Tarde is going to become a low-key /lit/ meme.

>> No.12622202

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