/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.12601123]

first contact edition

>what is your favorite first contact novels
>what makes it better than the others
and please dont post the same title again and again

Monthly Reading for February: The Fifth Head of Cerberus by Gene Wolfe (Discussion by 28th feb)

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Previously:
>>12585290
>>12570500
>>12559657
>>12545317
>>12534119
>>12518577

reminder do NOT reply to any leftist bait poster

[Anonymous No.12601138]

sanderfag a hack

[Anonymous No.12601142]

[Anonymous No.12601167]

The first visual contact part in Childhood's End has always been my favorite

[Anonymous No.12601179]

>>12601123
>what is your favorite first contact novel
Footfall

>what makes it better than the others
Michael.

[Anonymous No.12601211]

How the times change. Moorcock's novels are reactionary by today's standards.

[Anonymous No.12601294]

Lads is it worth reading the saga of Alvin the Maker from Orson Scott Card or is it just propaganda about mormon stuff??

[Anonymous No.12601333]

I'm currently listening to Royal Assassin, but honestly I'm beginning to get annoyed at Fitz. Why the fucking does he keep having secrets from Verity?

[Anonymous No.12601404]

>>12601333
Because he was written by a woman

[Anonymous No.12601409]

>>12601404
Damn, that's it isn't it? I am honestly getting really frustrated. Does her other elderling books get better?

[Anonymous No.12601436]

>>12600806
>This is why people who actually read decent sci-fi don't come to these threads
>dune is actual scifi
Dune is space fantasy, like star wars. Also dune is dated as fuck. Take your dinosaur nostalgic ass elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.12601446]

>>12601123
Can you remember to remove that "reminder" at the bot. You are just waving an all you can shitpost invitation.

[Anonymous No.12601448]

>>12601409
I read it many years ago, but I remember feeling frustrated like you, but after I diagnosed the source of it I was able to get beyond it and like, if not love, the rest of the story. Like when you get used to someone's foreign accent. It doesn't go away but if you can get over it you might enjoy what's there, if you can't your annoyance will probably grow.

[Anonymous No.12601453]

>>12601376
Ah, well in that case I can't help you. I don't think I've seen any other infographic that matches your description.

[Anonymous No.12601454]

>>12601333
You fags were told not to read the assassin who doesn't assassinate people, but you wanted to be contrary. Continue reading and cry yourself to ash.

[thiskillsthedarkelf No.12601578]

How does /ssfg/ feel about writing classes?

>>12601123
>spends his entire life training to become an astronaut
>finally makes contact with alien life
>tries to grab its dick

>>12601211
Everything is reactionary by todays standards.
>60 years ago equal opportunity was radical
>30 years ago it was progressive
>today it's racist.

[Anonymous No.12601756]

Really enjoyed the ruin of kings but I gotta admit that's mainly down to how well the final act was done.
At about 500 pages in my thoughts were that it was fun but I was probably going to give it a slightly negative review but everything after that made me want to have a sequel to read pretty much immediately.

The first 200 or so pages were palatable enough but they're practically a different book to the rest of it, also the blurb/promotional summary I read was pretty fucking misleading making it sound more like an intrigue book than it is.

[Anonymous No.12601808]

>>12601179
Muhfuturistic space ship, also lets use some fucking 1970s space shuttles, and some 1930s battleship guns.....

[Anonymous No.12601816]

>>12601578
That’s why I read xianxia, no cancerous liberalism’s there

[Anonymous No.12601834]

>>12601756
>I read female authors

[Anonymous No.12601978]

>>12601834
>i don't even read books, period

[Anonymous No.12602053]

I'm trying to write a crazy bitch as a love interest for my hero, but I don't know how far I should go with her. I want to make her unhinged but I don't want to go too over the top and turn her into a walking parody. Where should I draw the line?

[Anonymous No.12602076]

>>12602053
Occasional suicide attempts
Randomly waking him up at 4 am to scream and accuse him of cheating
Leaving dozens of voice mails at work
Randomly getting upset when he’s home “late” despite knowing his work runs late
Etc
Occasionally adding her medication to his food too

[Anonymous No.12602082]

>>12601142
pretty good but just another apocalypse story. The sequel "Anvil of Stars" is a good deal stranger and more memorable.

[Anonymous No.12602088]

>>12602053
Make her a sadistic rapist who has a soft spot for the protagonist that she struggles with because of her fucked up mentality towards affection. Seriously, I always wondered why female rapists are nearly nonexistent in so called "gritty" fantasy stories. It'd make for an interesting character if done properly.

[Anonymous No.12602099]

>>12601333
>the king's coterie

good god I hated the word coterie so much at the end of the trilogy because he used it so often.

Also the ending was one of the biggest literary disappointments of my whole life. You could tell he panicked because he realized he would need at least half another book to tie up all the ends.

[Anonymous No.12602112]

>>12601834
>t. virgin

[Anonymous No.12602122]

Epub (that I have not tried myself): https://www37.zippyshare.com/v/t2MYTzfk/file.html

[Anonymous No.12602156]

>>12602099
>he

[Anonymous No.12602176]

Why did something like The Expanse take off and become popular in relatively mainstream culture, but someone like Kim Stanley Robinson never gain that level of cultural popularity despite writing for over 3 decades now and being a best seller half a dozen or more times.

[Anonymous No.12602191]

>>12602176
What book by KSR are you talking about?I read Red Mars and holy shit it was the worst slog through utterly pointless landscape and geological features descriptions ever. And the jumping back and fort between timelines did nothing to improve the book either.

[Anonymous No.12602203]

>>12602176
It tells you more about how shitty mainstream culture is nowadays than it does about the quality of the authors or the books.

[Anonymous No.12602229]

>>12602053
Just read some cases of obsessive love IRL. Shit can get wacky.

[Anonymous No.12602231]

>>12602191
Aurora.

But also I thought it about it a few days ago, I'm almost finished with 2312 and was surprised at how much the early Expanse books were similar to it. Except where 2312 has a very very slow build up, and the first major action point is an attack on Io, that goes literally nowhere, Leviathan Wakes pretty much begins with a coordinated attack on a martian warship, lots of destruction and a very obvious and powerful conspiracy.

Both involve a lot of travelling around the solar system and talking to people, but my favourite chapter in 2312 is the tunnel, my favourite chapter in leviathan wakes is Eros. Despite exploring pretty similar ideas at the start, The Expanse is based around action set pieces and badass characters, 2312 is normal human beings talking at least so far I'm 150 pages from the end.

[Anonymous No.12602491]

Less than 200 pages left and then I'll have to look for a new series.

[Anonymous No.12602495]

>Will Wight makes a blog post about how excited he is to go see fucking Hamilton

Literally dropped

[Anonymous No.12602581]

Where is the Patrick Rothfuss or GRRM sex scandal?

[Anonymous No.12602620]

>>12602581
They're too busy shoving grease in their mouths to grease up Ashley Judd.

[Anonymous No.12602633]

Can someone recommend me a first person narrative novel with a down-to-earth narrator and a character-driven story? Realism in thought and dialogue over poetic prose.

[Anonymous No.12602635]

>>12601294
>reading Card under any pretext

[Anonymous No.12602641]

>>12602633
The Memoirs of Hadrian. Bedt novel of the 20th century tebehe

[Anonymous No.12602695]

https://williamscorner.blog/2019/02/15/february-status/comment-page-1/
So apparently:
> no Daniel Black in 2019.
>we can expect loli princess space marine in december, instead of september (from his track record)
>patreon is saying what you can write as an author or not

[Anonymous No.12602698]

>>12602641
Seems interesting enough, but from reading quotes it seems to be precisely what I'm not after right now. It appears to be elegant and pretty, I want natural and imperfect.

[Anonymous No.12602702]

>>12601436
Yeah but not all space operas have cute moms like Jessica

[Anonymous No.12602714]

>>12602695
>Yes, I'm E. William Brown, author of the Daniel Black and Alice Long stories on Amazon Kindle.
>My books are doing pretty well these days, so I've moved to writing full time.
>Now that I'm writing full time I may start posting bonus chapters now and then, but no promises on that.
To the fag that said he has a 9-5 but writes in his spare time, here is proof that he doesn't. That means he has all day to write but takes a fucking snail pace to publish.

[Anonymous No.12602719]

>>12602082
> just another apocalypse story
That's a bit harsh. Name some better modern apocalyptic first-contact books.

> The sequel "Anvil of Stars" is a good deal stranger and more memorable.
I don't disagree but it's not really a first contact novel. It's certain weird and I had no idea where the story was going but damn, one hell of an ending.

[Anonymous No.12602722]

Hello friends. I am birdboyanon. I am back. I have something to discuss. How long is too long for an epic fantasy series.

I have identified more 'turning points' I want to address for my historian. In my planning the entire narrative I have found that I have many turning points. Each of these in my planning have become either a single novel or trilogy. This is all still framed under the meta-narrative of a historian piecing together the past to understand a future threat. For reference this all takes place over a roughly 350 year period, carrying the world from a equivalent to the late renaissance to the near future. The materials that the historian consults changes from old journals to film to eventually talking to actual still living survivors.

I see the turning points as following:
>The invention of chemical warfare leading to the first world war
>The invention of audio recording devices leading to the fall of Vulkur colonialism.
>The invention of anesthesia leading to the finding and subduing of the Susajahi.
>The invention of a television equivalent & mass media leading to the collapse of the Osini faith.
>The invention of the digital computer leading to the ascension of a Tas Da Raken.
>The previous two conclusion events leading to a second world war
>The space race leading to the discovery and coveting of the Sumori Suhai.
>The invention of an internet equivalent leading to a global memetic plague.
>The the conflict the historian is preparing for.

All in all I have these and a few other ideas and it is hitting the point I can see 20 or more books of material. Am I just being autistic?

[Anonymous No.12602730]

>>12602722
How many books have you written before?

[Anonymous No.12602737]

>>12602730
Four, but I have never published any of them. I just keep them on my hard drive.

[Anonymous No.12602738]

>>12602722
> 20 or more books of material
Yes that's autistic and would require readers of equal or higher levels of autism to stick with that many books. You're limiting your audience.

[Anonymous No.12602748]

>>12602714
>one chapter per month
How long are his chapters usually?

[Anonymous No.12602750]

>>12602738
Each 'turning point' is meant to be a self contained story with it's own set of characters and each is supposed to be 1-4 books. Would that make it less autistic? It's just supposed to bring the world together over time towards the final threat.

[Anonymous No.12602763]

>>12601294
Yeah it's good. Origins of American Jesus

[Anonymous No.12602768]

>>12602750
>Would that make it less autistic?
First ask yourself is do each of those stories really need to be 4 books long? The entirety of LotR only took 3

[Anonymous No.12602771]

>>12602722
>20 books
>story from late renaissance to future
>literally go from a fantasy novel series to sci-fi because of time spent
>all that build up for a conflict
Beyond autistic.

[Anonymous No.12602781]

>>12602768
The only one I see taking 4 books is the final conflict that the historian has been preparing for during the rest of the series.

[Anonymous No.12602789]

>>12602722
>>12602750
>Would that make it less autistic?
Yes,i mean Moorcock Eternal Champion Cycle is like 30 books but it has a lot of jumping on points and many of them are self contained like Elric of Melnibone.

[Anonymous No.12602799]

>>12602112
would rather be a virgin than a cuck tbqhwydf

[Anonymous No.12602800]

>>12602003
DAMN,lady Jessica looks like THAT?

[Anonymous No.12602823]

>>12602750
Sounds like you need to start writing and see if you really that many books to tell our your stories. The #1 complaint of multi-book series is pacing, authors tend to get too involved in their own world and forget basic storytelling.

[Anonymous No.12602828]

>>12602789
The entire cycle is supposed to be mostly self contained. Each turning point is a self contained story that only shares a few characters between time-adjacent ones, a few family lineages that stay relevant throughout the ages, and the historian.

I more mean it to be 8 story lines that culminate in the final conflict.

Maybe that would be ok? I don't know. Maybe I'm an idiot. Fuck.

[Anonymous No.12602849]

>>12602771
I don't know, I kind of like the idea of a series of books that each tell their own story, but all share a subtle background arc that's leading up to something bigger. It's there from the start, but as the series goes on, the connection becomes clearer.

[Anonymous No.12602853]

>>12602823
To be fair the scope of his story is a lot bigger than most.

[Anonymous No.12602868]

I've heard about that book which features a guy who threatens to detonate a nuke if he gets evicted from apartment. Anyone remember?

[Anonymous No.12602873]

aside from mythology-related stuff, are there any sff or other genrefiction classics that were straight-up fanfics?


only one I can think of is wicked

[Anonymous No.12602883]

>>12601454
This. I didn't read it because I know I'd get frustrated.

[Anonymous No.12602889]

>>12602828
>that only shares a few characters between time-adjacent ones, a few family lineages that stay relevant throughout the ages, and the historian.
Honestly sounds really fucking cool.

[Anonymous No.12602896]

>>12602231
>Aurora
That book is too recent and didn't get a TV show.

[Anonymous No.12602913]

>>12602722
>20 books
Not long enough, let's see that cut content. How long could you make it?

[Anonymous No.12603106]

>>12602635
what is the problem with reading his books? I have read Ender and Homecoming saga and they are good. Please explain, and also suggest someone who is better so I can compare, thank you

[Anonymous No.12603145]

>>12603106
There's nothing wrong with reading Card. Nothing in his most famous works would make you think he was a homophobic religious nutjob.

[Anonymous No.12603173]

>>12603145
>>12603106

It's not the fact he's a nutjob it's that the books fucking suck. Ender's Game is the only worthwhile one.

[Anonymous No.12603190]

>>12603145
I've read his main four Ender books and enjoyed most of them. I'm not really in the mood to read any of its prequels/spinoffs though.Which of his other works would you recommend?

[Anonymous No.12603209]

>>12602873
Armor

[Anonymous No.12603213]

>>12603190
Worthing Saga and Homecoming 4 are good, at least I liked them

[Anonymous No.12603214]

>>12603173
>>12603190
Songmaster (standalone), Worthing, Homecoming, there are even things to like in Alvin Maker

[Anonymous No.12603226]

>>12601123
>what is your favorite first contact novels
Rendezvous with Rama.
>what makes it better than the others
Enough motion physics wankery to make me soil my pants

[Anonymous No.12603227]

>>12603209
never heard of it

[Anonymous No.12603236]

>>12601123
I really like His Master's Voice by Stanislaw Lem
Really conveys the sense of the unknown and cosmic horror as a backdrop to a story of human stupidity and violence

[Anonymous No.12603242]

>>12603227
The author, John Steakley, only ever wrote two books. They're great. "Armor" is by his own admission a Starship Troopers fanfic. Part of the narrative is like a PTSD simulator.

[Anonymous No.12603288]

>>12602719
the ending felt too easy, they just show up and win

[Anonymous No.12603313]

Do you lads know of anything like Bakker's The Aspect Emperor? I've never read anything like it

The ending fucking killed me, literally had to read it like four times over in order to process it. No book's made me feel like that.

[Anonymous No.12603325]

>>12603288
> show up and win
I don't think that was exactly the point of the ending anon.

[Anonymous No.12603336]

>>12603313
Bakker writes good shit, even though he’s pseud as fuck. Akka had a hard life and Sorweel did nothing wrong.

[Anonymous No.12603337]

I believe BRANDON SANDERSON has a foot fetish. My reason for believing this is because I have a foot fetish so I pick up on things most humans do not. Take for instance the ever shitty House of Cards. Now, I do not like this show (House of Cards) but I did sit through 4 seasons of that crap hoping it would get better, and in that time I noticed numerous examples of blatant foot fan service. It is a good fetish to pander to because it occupies a gray area due to the lack of nudity, which is why its perfect for a guy like BRANDON SANDERSON. Reading Mistborn, I can't help but notice how many times we are reminded of Vin's cute bare footedness. She's barefoot on the roof, toes clutching the edge. She's barefoot on cobblestone, only to walk on marble. Vin walked to his bed BAREFOOT, making no sound. Of course the obvious explanation (for the mundane majority of men) is that Vin is a Mistborn -- a thief -- and strives to remain quiet. She has to make lots of sacrifices due to the magneto magic of BRANDON SANDERSON'S world, such as never wearing toe rings or anklets (unless they are wooden or something) but I do not believe this is the sole reason for the foot prose on display in these books. The author (BRANDON SANDERSON) has fueled my spirit with his depiction of Vin. I have a hard time getting through the pages when I keep seeing examples of her beautiful foot-based dexterity, yet its these very passages that push me further on. I see visions of Vin toying with Elend, giving her man a royal footjob that any king would crave with her expertly trained toes. I think about Vin embarrassed, painting her toe nails to match her dress while Zane watches from the window. I think about her wearing glass slippers to show off her new feminine toes at the balls! Oh what a sight to behold! I am not even on the third book so I can't begin to imagine how much footy goodness is still to come. Anyway, these are my reasons for suspecting BRANDON SANDERSON has a foot fetish.

[Anonymous No.12603356]

>Ordered my copy of Dune a week ago
>Still hasn't arrived
The wait is killing me, I just want to read it

[Anonymous No.12603367]

>>12603356
>ordered
>not visiting the local shops to bait horny book girls while acting aloof to their seething presence
oh a non

[Anonymous No.12603368]

>>12603356
You can find a free ebook version in under 30 seconds of searching.

[Anonymous No.12603373]

>>12603145
You select your books based on the author's opinion of fags?

[Anonymous No.12603383]

>>12602799
and to be a permavirgin because you're too pathetic for any woman to touch is to be a cuck to every woman in the goddamn world

[Anonymous No.12603389]

>>12603373
No but it's a common criticism of Card as many people can't seem to separate the author from his books.

[Anonymous No.12603390]

if a story keeps turning into a fanfic every time I try to improve it, should I just make it a fanfic and say fuck it?

[Anonymous No.12603409]

>>12602722
>>12602750
What's it called? Like the entire thing.

[Anonymous No.12603426]

>>12603390
Yes, you're better off writing a shit story than no story.

[Anonymous No.12603438]

>>12603426
even if my goal is publication?

[Anonymous No.12603440]

>>12603438
self publishing on amazon is still publication!

[Anonymous No.12603465]

>>12603409
The Mouths & The Voices or The Continuation War. Each turning point is A Mouth and each book A Voice. The entire conflict is sort of the continuation of a war between the two progenitor races, their children playing out the war again but on a smaller scale.

[Anonymous No.12603503]

>>12603440
no it's not. thats like saying you were a movie star because your mom made customized children's movies you get at mall kiosks with your photo in it

[Anonymous No.12603514]

so are there any news on the MSE thing? supposedly he met with amazon yesterday.

[Anonymous No.12603526]

>>12601578
Go to bed Sowell, you're drunk.

[Anonymous No.12603566]

>>12603383
no reason to increase the cuckoldry by reading femoid "literature"

[Anonymous No.12603571]

What is the most fedora /sff/-writer currently?

[Anonymous No.12603576]

>>12603367
hehe
>>12603368
I sit in front of my computer all day long since I'm an IT student, so I prefer paper over screen when it comes to reading.

[Anonymous No.12603602]

>>12603571
brandon sanderson is a hack

[Anonymous No.12603616]

There are so many better female authors that write better than that Ruin of Kings author. Also, she writes exactly like a man (like in a Brent Weeks and Brandon Sanderson combined way) and not in a good way.

[Anonymous No.12603617]

>>12603571
birdboi-anon

[Anonymous No.12603644]

>>12603576
> so I prefer paper over screen when it comes to reading.
I used to be the same but then I got a Kindle. Can't live without it now.

[Anonymous No.12603645]

>>12603571
Rothfuss?
>>12603602
Not really

[Anonymous No.12603648]

>>12603644
I have a kindle. I still prefer paper.

[Anonymous No.12603801]

I read way faster on a kindle than with physical books

[Anonymous No.12603826]

>>12603571
*tips*
*writes 4000 about how the gays trigger me*

[Anonymous No.12603906]

>>12602495
>read the author not their work

[Anonymous No.12603916]

>finished everything I was planning on reading
>fucking nothing came out this week
>goodreads hasn't updated for a month
I'm gonna do it guys, I'm gonna browse r/fantasy

>>12602495
the guy also wrote a blog post on his oreo order not coming on time dude

[Anonymous No.12603928]

>>12602581
Rothfuss is literally the big sister to a sorority on his college. He’s the physical embodiment of m’lady fedora, he’s literally too scared to be alone with a woman

[Anonymous No.12604079]

>>12603916
>I'm gonna browse r/fantasy
I hope you like your daily influx of "read these books written by minorities and women regardless of their actual quality or you're sexist/racist!". Seriously, that's all that place is, don't do it to yourself.

[Anonymous No.12604134]

IF MY BOY TRULL DOESN'T SHOW UP IN REAPER'S GALE I'M GONNA BE VERY UPSET AND MAKE MORE ANGRY INTERNET POSTS

>>12602722
Sanderson is literally doing 'medieval-to-space' meta-series shit. Do some research involving his long-term plans for the meta--his goals, how many books he has already pumped out, and the overall plan regarding amount of novels and short stories he has left.
:-)

[Anonymous No.12604242]

>>12602748
too short for the time he takes to deliver.

[Anonymous No.12604250]

>>12604079
it's fine if you just search and go for threads that are like "can i have recs like x book" or "any books with x specific characteristic" but I wouldn't ever suggest browsing it normally

[Anonymous No.12604425]

royalroad has such high number of well written fantasy stories, I simply can't pick one to start with!

[Anonymous No.12604435]

>>12604425
Lol

[Anonymous No.12604469]

>>12604435
Do you disagree, here's synopsis of what I'm currently reading:
>Ever since she had been discovered as being a lesbian Yuki has been all alone. Her parents were disappointed and despised her. Her friends all abandoned her. Very quickly her personality turned cold and the only thing she had left was the immensely popular VRMMORPG Niflheim. However like they say all good things must come to an end.

[Anonymous No.12604481]

>>12604469
Let me guess it’s one of the 10000 stories with only 10 chapters

[Anonymous No.12604491]

>>12604481
i don't know, I was browsing and the synopsis appeared more awful than normal
Why don't these "writers" just do 10-15 chapter short story but instead try to do some perpetual grand story instead

[Anonymous No.12604509]

>>12604491
>Why don't these "writers" just do 10-15 chapter short story but instead try to do some perpetual grand story instead
Because they are copying YA novels and LN, which keep going for the sake of milking it. Short stories would be the ideal format for young wannabe writers, but it just isn't what is popular nowdays so they don't do it.

[Anonymous No.12604583]

The book finder RNG has been kind to me of late

>A Labyrinth of Scions and Sorcery by Curtis Craddock (fantasy/steampunk)
I waited a month for this to get uploaded and it was exactly what I hoped.
Steampunk with great prose (it is exactly the right flavour of prose in the middle of purple and beige) with a great cast of characters who I enjoy, with a mystery that unfolds with precision and perfect pacing and a fascinating system of magical systems blended in with the precise amount of scifi and body horror. Also, the MCs are amongst my favourites.

>Kingdoms of Elfin by Sylvia Townsend Warner (fantasy/fae)
Thank god for PT bounty requests because a great person filled my request and bought/uploaded it it for me. Apparently this was the short story collection that inspired the Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell books (in particular, the gentleman with thistle-down hair). Just like jsamn it contains a bunch of amoral fairies doing CUTE amoral fairy things in a very macabre way but there are other stories as well where humans are also in part the perpetrators. It can be fairly difficult to puzzle out what message the author is giving for some particular stories which makes a nice change from the extremely unsubtle attempts of modern authors to drill messages into your brain at any given moment.

The three particularly strong stories are the first, second and last stories.

>The Nine by Tracy Townsend (scifantasy/steampunk heist)
Apparently the RNG (because I select by what I think I will like not by what I think it is about) has seen fit to bestow another steampunk novel on me. I really enjoyed the concept of a self writing book that chronicles the life of nine people trialled by god and the fundamental god particle-esque sections are really reminiscent of Pullman (but in terms of adult fantasy) are very attractive. I also love this specific brand of mentalic/psychic powers a la newtypes etc.

One of the flaws with this novel is that it starts off with a ridiculously large amount of POVs but rest assured the author trims them down by the end and another flaw was the fact that I wasn't a big fan of the main antagonist species even though the concept (them walking on their eyes) was excellent.

I loved the MCs and would hope that other authors write characters that are endearing and as fascinating as the ones crafted by this author.

>A Canticle for Leibowitz by Walter M. Miller Jr. (scifi/post apocalyptic)
This is a book that takes until the latter 1/3 to deliver but rest assured that Fiat Voluntas Tua is one of the most outstandingly horrifying plots that I have ever read. From the bicephalous Mrs Grales/Rachel, to the conflict between the doctor and the brother and to the highly memorable Poet in the earlier section, I highly recommend this book to anyone mildly interested in religious and post apoc spec fic.

[Anonymous No.12604586]

Found Frank Herbert's Hellstorm's Hive last week and I'm only around fifty pages into it but I like it so far. Where do more serious Herbert fans rate it among his works? Hellstorm sounds like such a bizarre character.

[Anonymous No.12604798]

>>12602112
>t. jealous fattie

[Anonymous No.12604843]

>>12603648
Then enjoy your wait, buddy.

[Anonymous No.12605020]

Any recommendations for novels that have the same style, or even just the same mood and vibe as World War Z? Doesn't need to be Zombies.

[Anonymous No.12605082]

Are the Halo books any good?

[Anonymous No.12605135]

>>12605082
No
Lotta bad science in them

[Anonymous No.12605137]

>>12605082
I thought they were sick as fuck in middle school so they probably blow

[Anonymous No.12605225]

>>12601123
Any good book about a pair of adventurers fucking shit up? It's always about a group or a single person.

[Anonymous No.12605281]

>>12605225
Read The Hardy Boys

[Anonymous No.12605425]

>>12602722
Birdboy Anon here. My outline is looking something like this. This names come from the conlang.

>The invention of chemical warfare leading to the first world war
Signos, The Mouth of Mist (Three books material)
>The invention of audio recording devices leading to the fall of Vulkur colonialism.
Masgot, The Mouth of Wax (Three books material)
>The invention of anesthesia leading to the finding and subduing of the Susajahi.
Saigna, The Mouth of Water (Three books material)
>The invention of a television equivalent & mass media leading to the collapse of the Osini faith.
Orsan, The Mouth of Paper (Three books material)
>The invention of the digital computer leading to the ascension of a Tas Da Raken.
Gangret, The Mouth of Gold (Two books material)
>The previous two conclusion events leading to a second world war
Gangros, The Mouth of Steel (Two books material)
>The space race leading to the discovery and coveting of the Sumori Suhai.
Agrii, The Mouth of Oil (Two books Material)
>The invention of an internet equivalent leading to a global memetic plague.
Hagrurt, The Mouth of Glass (Three books material)
>The the conflict the historian is preparing for.
Sumori, The Mouth of Flesh (Four books material)


I see 24 books of material overall. I don't know. The outlines look correct. This all leads pretty far and transitions solidly from a fantasy to a sci-fi setting because of the advancement of the world.

[Anonymous No.12605583]

Mother created factors and controlled them as well(?). Since she was in charge of the Catalog.

Mother also launched daughters to find teachers and bring them to Hull 3 to fuck. Seems like she or her daughters failed every single time.

But why the fuck are all those teachers are getting killed by her own factors? Isn't it kinda illogical? I mean the only obstacles there are factors killing everyone but aren't they created by Momma herself and are controlled by her as well?

[Anonymous No.12605593]

>>12605583
Mother is fucking crazy, it probably makes sense in her mind

[Anonymous No.12605631]

>>12604586
It is a pretty wild story. I liked it.

[Anonymous No.12605648]

>>12605425
Sounds like you have your life's work cut out for you anon. Dont introduce any story lines you are not sure you will be able to tie up (looking at you GRRM) and dont give the characters names with apostrophes or capital letters in the middle.

[Anonymous No.12605660]

>>12605648
>no names with apostrophes

I have been using apostrophes to show a verbalized glottal stop in one of the conlangs. Like the pause in uh oh. It's a glottal stop the Pelkori often use in their languages because they have actual control to open and close their glottis much more adeptly than humans.

[Anonymous No.12605733]

>>12601578
writing classes are good to get decent feedback, find a writing group, and see where you stand skillwise

[Anonymous No.12605756]

>>12603826
*has seizure resulting in brain damage*
"this was god speaking to me!!!"

[Anonymous No.12605771]

>>12605425
is this going to be self published?

[Anonymous No.12605776]

>>12605771
I would prefer to have it published but I doubt I will ever be able to convince a publisher to take me on.

[Anonymous No.12605927]

Where should I start with the Culture novels?

[Anonymous No.12606283]

>>12605927
At the beginning, Consider Phlebas
Publish order is just fine

[Anonymous No.12606494]

How do I properly swerve into writing as a career these days, more specifically of the fictional kind.

I enjoy reading and what not, but I've always put it off in lieu of college studies that despite enjoying, are second to my desire to write some fantasy stories for others to read. Now that I'm out and just working a really nice part-time job, I have a lot of free time to write without worrying about expenses. I would really prefer to see if I can get into the creative writing field before committing to my degree's perceived opportunities or going where my current job takes me. I think writing is where my passion most lies.

I've managed to write out around 42k words since the beginning of the year. With how I originally envisioned it, this makes up the first half of the book I'm working on and was setting up to end around 85k words or so. Friends who do not normally read have perused my writing and offered feedback ranging from wanting to know a bit more about a character or the feeling they receive from a scene to commenting out where I made a typo. I'm pretty appreciative of it but won't delude myself into thinking it's enough, it's only the first draft so there's absolutely no way.

I've started the second part and have the plot laid out considering how I want the book to flow, but I'm having hesitations for quite a few reasons. I don't know if this would be ridiculed or not and my mind has trouble seeing it much any other way, but in my mind the art is mostly similar to Japanese animation as well as how I envision most of it. And I don't find a single thing wrong with that, but it does confuse me for exactly what format or platform I should consider to try and get more feedback/exposure.

To be a bit more succinct, my two main questions are:

1. Is there a particular platform I should be looking at for getting others to read my writing and exposure in this day and age? When I started I was just gonna publish it on kindle after I edited it and am satisfied, but I was thinking of taking a stab at a blog or using wattpad after doing some reading about the subject.

2. The genre of my writing itself probably is somewhere in dark fantasy. I've been working on creating a universe wherein the majority of the plot takes place in a land swallowed in darkness and night. But I'm actually writing a side-story for a side character at the moment. Because of this I saw it as being a single book about how this character came to be. Given the way I characterize and envision the writing (some animesque designs bluntly) more so than the genre, would for instance, two 50k novels be better? I thought I could maybe heavily edit the first half, then upload it somewhere to see how it goes if I took this route.

Any feedback at all is appreciated.

[Anonymous No.12606513]

>>12606494
go check and try royalroadl

[Anonymous No.12606517]

>>12606494
kindle.
anyone can be successful these day.
kindle unlimited is a good way to actually earn a living for an indie author.
a blog or facebook group is a good idea along with a twitter account for directly communicating with fans.

good writing software is scrivner(paid) or sigil (free and openj source).
learn a bit of html and css. the gold standard for ebook publishing is the epub file format and in reality its just html with css.

[Anonymous No.12606537]

>>12605927
Consider's one of the weaker novels but it builds enough on the world that you kinda have to read it first.

If you stick with publication order you get two of the best books in the series next so you might as well do that.

[Anonymous No.12606541]

>>12606494
Wattpad (mostly YA) has a notorious reputation even amongst fanficcers for having an even younger audience than most other fanfic archives and apparently runs rampant with the self insert romancing the villain (cute male).

Fanfic gets way more attention that original fiction on the internet and as far as I know most betas (editors) that proof drafts and offer their services for free on the internet will only look at works which belong to fandoms they are interested in.

Royalroad I've heard is not fanfic but mostly litRPG.

[Anonymous No.12606550]

>>12606494
Also 50,000 words is too short to count as a novel. Look at PKD's anorexic novels with zero description and his are ~65,000 words. Even your average fanfic breaks 60,000 words with regularity.

[Anonymous No.12606640]

>>12601211
theyre shit by any standard

[Anonymous No.12606646]

>>12605927
You could also start with "Inversions" for a really unique look at the Culture, just the way all the people who have to deal them get to experience their methods. The book will ose most of its mystique if you already know about the Culture beforehand.

[Anonymous No.12606648]

>>12606494
dont listen to this >>12606541
royalroadl is definitely great for getting an audience

[Anonymous No.12606776]

>>12606648
if you don't write litrpg story with chapter a day it might be difficult to get audience though, then again it might be hard to get audience anywhere

[Anonymous No.12606829]

What are people's thoughts here on Stand on Zanzibar? I haven't read a lot of sci-fi but I'm about a third of the way through this and really enjoying, it's form is very exciting.

[Anonymous No.12606888]

March 1st cradle kino is back on the menu

[Anonymous No.12606912]

[Anonymous No.12607089]

>>12606829
That is not how you shill a book newfag. Any book's form can be exciting and really enjoyable. Tell us about stuff happening and why you think we should read it.

[Anonymous No.12607094]

>>12606888
When is the next audiobook expected?

[Anonymous No.12607125]

>>12602495
That's how he does his blog. He rambles on about sweet nothings, then drops some knowledge you are interested in at the bottom. All those paragraphs were to tell you the PS at the bottom.

[Anonymous No.12607163]

>>12606912
i got the opposite

[Anonymous No.12607232]

>>12603916
Don't do it m8. Don't you do it.

[Anonymous No.12607370]

>>12601138
yes

[Anonymous No.12607443]

>read Stephen King's Gunslinger
>understand jack shit
Is it worth continuing or is the series the same as this?

[Anonymous No.12607469]

>>12607443
Book 2 explains it and make you appreciate Gunslinger more, give it a try

[Anonymous No.12607480]

>>12607443
>didn't understand Gunslinger
Is English your first language or are you literally retarded? What is there to not understand?

[Anonymous No.12607498]

My copy came quicker than I thought! Lucky for me.

[Anonymous No.12607563]

>>12607443
The whole series is shit so you might as well stop now. Read David Gemmell's The Jerusalem Man trilogy instead. It's like the Dark Tower, but actually good.

[Anonymous No.12607573]

>>12606517
Learn Markdown and let software turn plain text into epubs for you.

[Anonymous No.12607597]

>>12606912
ftfy

[Anonymous No.12607621]

>>12607089
"Stuff happening"
Go to hell plotfag

[Anonymous No.12607634]

>>12607573
you can also do it in just plain old latex. it supports epub3 now.
most epub software though will allow you to directly edit html and set css rules like you would in latex packages.

[Anonymous No.12607636]

>>12605660
This has been done to death and then some more by authors seeking to give the names of their characters ann exotic, outlandish air and it has become a tired and stale trope, no matter what made up reasons you come up with for it.

[Anonymous No.12607643]

>>12607163
>>12607597
Really? I loved the trilogy when I read it and I was an adhd teenager

[Anonymous No.12607652]

>>12606829
John Brunner is great,pretty underrated desu

[Anonymous No.12607663]

>>12607443
>Reading Stephen King
Do americans really do this?

[Anonymous No.12607677]

>>12607634
>latex
nobody /actually/ does this do they lmao?
i've never seen anybody touch that shit outside of university

[Anonymous No.12607693]

Roadside Picnic is muh favorite.

Favorite simply because the tech the aliens left behind is completely unfathomable.

[Anonymous No.12607713]

>>12602722
>>12605425
>>12603465
>>12602750
You did it.; You made me get off my lazy ass and make a poorly made gimp meme of you.
Enjoy turning into a meme.

[Anonymous No.12607714]

>>12607677
you'd be surprised.
latex is used in a lot of print publications like magazines or news papers.
its a lot more accessible right now. my sister does her homework in latex with the visual studio code plugin. i sometimes use it to do infographics.

[Anonymous No.12607719]

>>12607677
My resume has been a series of edits to the same XeLaTeX file for my entire career.

[Anonymous No.12607725]

How many of these are good? https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/110518.Protagonist_is_a_Dungeon

[Anonymous No.12607739]

>>12607725
Considering all of those books have over 3 star rating I have no choice but to conclude they are all good books.

[Anonymous No.12607746]

>>12607713
>birdboi is the final boss we have to defeat to gain peace and prosperity in the sffg kingdom
seems legit

[Anonymous No.12607748]

>>12607725
most of those arent actually about a protagonist being a dungeon but rather a dungeon master.
divine dungeon and dungeon deposed are pretty good. bobiverse is pretty popular but i dont like keeping track of the many bobs. too many povs for my taste. wraiths hunt is pretty good. subverts many of the tropes in unexpected ways.
havent read the other ones on the list. though living dungeon is on my to read list.

[Anonymous No.12607763]

>>12607748
oh forgot about two weeks curse. its basically western wuxia. its not really about dungeons per-se but there is some dungeon diving in it and the two protags build a city inside of one of them.
if you liked emerilia youll probably like this.

[Anonymous No.12607814]

>>12602698
It's honestly as elegant as any novel can ever get. So... I dunno what to recommend

[Anonymous No.12607816]

>>12607748
>>12607739
>>12607763
Well looks like for the next few weeks I will be reading books from this list. Thanks.

I've run out of books to read while I wait on some fresh drops, and the formulaic driven books of the publishing houses don't really do it for me anymore, when everything is looking like a Sanderson, Butcher, Weeks, GRRM knock off.

[Anonymous No.12607829]

>>12607814
Fuck off, cunt. You worthless piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.12607867]

>>12607829
The fuck is wrong with you you twat?

[Anonymous No.12607955]

>>12607746
>>12605425
>>12603465
>The Continuation War
>The Mouths & The Voices
Both have a good ring to it.

I'm new to /sffg/, how common are birdboi anon types?

[Anonymous No.12607976]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZ4nFWIjTss

[Anonymous No.12607978]

>>12607955
>I'm new to /sffg/, how common are birdboi anon types?
hes unique. well there was the gay dracula guy but that was years ago before sffg was even a thing.

[Anonymous No.12607983]

>>12607978
Well, I suppose we can only hope birdboi anon does well. If he does maybe we'll get to truly feel him spray his autism all over us.

[Anonymous No.12607987]

>>12607955
He's basically one of the /tg/ worldbuildingfags who wants to take his stuff /lit/. Don't see many of those asking for advice here, but it is neat.

[Anonymous No.12607999]

>>12605425
>24 books
>roughly 150k words per book
>3.6 million words worth of world building
Yeah, should be enough.

>>12607987
I'm a /tg/ guy, and he is outlandish by our standards for the most part. He is far more involved than most folks are.

[Anonymous No.12608011]

>>12607955
We had a Bunnyshill/bunnyanon a few months ago,he had already published his novel and kept shilling it and derailing threads with waifuposting.

[Anonymous No.12608018]

>>12608011
>waifuposting
Does birdboi anon have waifus?

[Anonymous No.12608025]

Who has canonically killed the most people in all of Science Fiction or Fantasy? I think Paul Atreides has to be up there, right?

[Anonymous No.12608028]

>>12608018
This. I want to know if there's a cute birdgirl whose cloaca I can fantasize about.

[Anonymous No.12608031]

>>12608025
He mentions 40 billion in Messiah I think. So he's up there yeah.

[Anonymous No.12608037]

>>12608018

[Anonymous No.12608056]

>>12608037
>>12608028
>>12608018
Cloacae will be destroyed.

[Anonymous No.12608059]

>>12608025
>>12608031
That wasn't him personally. If you include wars you could just say Consider Phlebas with it's 850 billion death toll. Or simply pick Thanos

[Anonymous No.12608069]

>>12608056
>>12608037
>>12608018
Has birdboi specified if his whalepeople or birdpeople are attractive? I want to conquer a slappy whale queen.

[Anonymous No.12608092]

>>12608031

I was remembering bits and pieces of Messiah lately since I was planning a re-read before I started Children of Dune and God Emperor and I remember somewhere it said he killed a shit load of people on his Jihads.

[Anonymous No.12608098]

>>12608025
I mean,there are scifi books where characters destroy entire universes,so it's a tough question

[Anonymous No.12608104]

>>12607816
Most of them are pure friggin garbage

[Anonymous No.12608114]

>>12608069
He said they look like some 4 legged shit from Australia. Look in the old generals and search for whale. You should find it.

[Anonymous No.12608118]

>>12608104
We will see. I will read the blurbs first, if they don't do it for me I will drop it.

[Anonymous No.12608129]

>>12608114
They basically look like giant fucking weasel things and angry storks. Birdboi didn’t make them attractive on purpose! He did it to screw with us!

[Anonymous No.12608205]

>>12607443
It only gets worse

[Anonymous No.12608303]

>>12608069
>Tfw no Thicc Whale mommy gf

[Anonymous No.12608372]

>>12608104
>>12608118
>>12607816
>>12607725
>>12607748
I already read some of these (like 3), I got two more from the list. Everything else was absolute trash, some computer game shit or harem bait

[Anonymous No.12608390]

>>12608069
>thicc mommy whale milkies! Mommy milkies! Mommy give whale milkies!

[Anonymous No.12608395]

>>12608372
>some computer game shit or harem bait
how about some actual critisism?

[Anonymous No.12608428]

>>12607976
Teen girls are genetically engineered to enjoy YA. I don't know why but it just happens. Maybe could be compared with men being into war books or something.

[Anonymous No.12608455]

>talking to birdboi anon on discord
>he is super worried about bird Hitler memes

[Anonymous No.12608458]

>>12608395
If I want to read about a dungeon, I don't want it to be in a computer game.
I want a real world (world is real to the protagonist, not computer emulation) becoming a dungeon and doing dungeon shit. Most of those had a set up to be a harem, the others were poorly written (from reviews), or just some new mmporgvrlitrpg-whatever leveling and stats. I HATE STATS.
Also Micheal Chatfield is a trash author.

[Anonymous No.12608638]

>>12608455
>can't believe I will help pol... but that is funny
Here.

[Anonymous No.12608640]

>>12608455
But can he actually write. Autism is fine unless it's simply anal and boring.

[Anonymous No.12608720]

>>12608638
>>12608640
Not great but his main focus is improving. He isn’t awful and his ideas are interesting.

[Anonymous No.12608743]

>>12608720
Let him know I made 2 memes for him.

[Anonymous No.12608792]

>>12608743
Two memes? I only saw one.

[Anonymous No.12608802]

>>12608792
>>12608638
>>12607713

[Anonymous No.12608943]

>>12607663
I wonder how he became a millionaire if Americans didn't read him.
Please think before you try to meme, you embarrass yourself when you open your mouth.

[Anonymous No.12608948]

>>12607498
So you are an oriental. Are you are qt gril?

[Anonymous No.12608970]

>>12607714
>infographics
worried nervous laugh.tex

[Anonymous No.12608976]

>>12607621
>it is fun and you guys should read it

[Anonymous No.12608984]

>>12608025
Honor Harrington must have killed or ordered killed about 2 million people

[Anonymous No.12609004]

>>12607763
>emerilia
It had its flaws at the start, but it completely shit the bed later on. I don't trust that ginger fuck author anymore. It could have been such a great series but... all that shit with quips and puns while fighting... and the robot quipping.

[Anonymous No.12609067]

>>12608970
you see all these fancy infographcis?
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=infographics&iax=images&ia=images
theres several latex packages specifically made to make these.

[Anonymous No.12609091]

Whats the best way to listen to lord of the rings? The Rob ingles classic version, the BBC radio drama version or the unofficial kind of drama version of Phil dragash?

[Anonymous No.12609115]

>>12609067
Wow, I had no clue people used it for anything other than stuffy scientific papers

[Anonymous No.12609225]

Are there any other books that contain magical psychic blowjob rape?

[Anonymous No.12609256]

>>12606550
I should've specified light novel, my apologies. I think I'm leaning toward a short book though after finishing the second part, light novels are longer running series from what I understand and I just wanted this story to be a one time thing for this side character until she's more relevant in the main story..
>>12606517
I was reading comparisons between scrivner and sigil. I don't find the computer language learning part of it daunting, but from what I gathered scrivner is good for organizing your writing entirely while lacking in formatting? I was just using openoffice but would it be better to jump to sigil sooner rather than later?
>>12606541
>>12606648
I imagine it will be difficult anywhere to start out, but I was thinking more for the purpose of just attracting more beta readers possibly, would that change suggestions any?

[Anonymous No.12609262]

>>12609225
>blowjob rape
What kind of blowjob rape? A guy forcing a someone to suck his dick, or someone sucking a guy's dick against his will?

[Anonymous No.12609269]

>>12601756
>Uniting the worldbuilding of a Brandon Sanderson with the storytelling verve of a Patrick Rothfuss

[Anonymous No.12609294]

>>12609256
just try sigil out. its fairly intuitive actually.
otherwise if you like organizing you can also try yWriter.
pic related. it gives you less control over the actual behind the scenes than sigil but you wont even need to fiddle with html/css.

[Anonymous No.12609301]

>>12608984
Well, yeah. But they were all really bad people.

[Anonymous No.12609305]

>>12609225
Das Kapital.

[Anonymous No.12609322]

>>12606829
It's very good.

[Anonymous No.12609391]

>>12609301
So you want slaughter of innocence?

[Anonymous No.12609616]

>>12605020
Epistolary novels or more like bleary fantasy novels? I'm about to try The Iron Heel for the first time.

[Anonymous No.12609947]

what is everyone reading?

[Anonymous No.12609981]

>>12609947
Heinlein's Glory Road
It's eh

[Anonymous No.12610048]

>>12605927
>>12606283
Consider Phlebas is a good starting point but I would argue Player of Games is better. Simultaneously more traditional scifi and more representative of the franchise as a whole.

[Anonymous No.12610080]

>>12610048
>Consider Phlebas
I think most people would say Consider Phlebas is the worst Culture novel.

[Anonymous No.12610091]

>>12607955
>>12605425
>>12602722
Who the fuck is this guy.

[Anonymous No.12610108]

>>12610091
its birdboi

[Anonymous No.12610110]

>>12610108
Who is birdboi?

[Anonymous No.12610116]

>>12610110
read the past few threads.

[Anonymous No.12610120]

>>12610116
No, explain it to me you son of a bitch.

[Anonymous No.12610127]

>>12610120
no

[Anonymous No.12610134]

>>12610091
>>12610120
Some autist and discord tranny.

[Anonymous No.12610139]

>>12610120
You're on /lit/ and refuse to read a few threads? Come on bro.

[Anonymous No.12610141]

>>12610134
>discord tranny
birdboi is a tranny?

[Anonymous No.12610266]

>>12610120
>>12610091 see >>12607713

[Anonymous No.12610272]

>>12608948
I’m not, I just live in Asia. And I’m not cute or a girl. Sorry buddy.

[Anonymous No.12610420]

>>12610141
No he’s a neckbeard.

[Anonymous No.12610435]

>>12610420
I've seen neckbearded trannies.

[Anonymous No.12610463]

>>12610435
From what I know of the guy he is just a basement dwelling alcoholic grognard. Classic 80s D&D nerd shit.

[Anonymous No.12610854]

Why is this general so dead?
Are you guys getting pucci to use?

[Anonymous No.12610883]

>>12605927
Look to Windward

[Anonymous No.12610891]

>>12610080
No that's Excession

[Anonymous No.12610994]

What books are you patiently/impatiently waiting on sffg?

[Anonymous No.12611020]

>>12610994
Birdboi anon’s.

[Anonymous No.12611050]

>>12610994
The Fall (Thieves of Fate, #2) - Townsend, Tracy
Angel Mage - Nix, Garth
Hexarchate Stories - Lee, Yoon Ha
Untitled Murderbot Novel (The Murderbot Diaries, #5) - Wells, Martha
The Light of All That Falls (The Licanius Trilogy, #3) - Islington, James
The Iron Season (The Golem and the Jinni, #2) - Wecker, Helene
Untitled (Shades of Grey, #2) - Fforde, Jasper
The Thorn of Emberlain (Gentleman Bastard, #4) - Lynch, Scott
The Burning White (Lightbringer #5) - Weeks, Brent
Beneath the Twisted Trees - P. Beaulieu, Bradley
Star Wars: Thrawn: Treason - Zahn, Timothy

TBR stuffers
A Brightness Long Ago - Guy Gavriel
Omega Canyon - Dan Simmons
Permafrost - Alastair Reynolds

Might be shit
A Little Hatred (First Law World #8) - Abercrombie, Joe
Amnesty (The Amberlough Dossier, #3) - Donnelly, Lara Elena
A Memory Called Empire (Teixcalaan, #1) - Martine, Arkady
Master of Sorrows (The Silent Gods, #1) - Call, Justin Travis
This Is How You Lose the Time War - Amal El-Mohtar (Goodreads Author), Max Gladstone (Goodreads Author)

[Anonymous No.12611080]

>>12601123
What was that book about a big city news paper where the guy's name was Charlie Town? The author was trying to make a point about the power of media to manipulate the mind. I think Charlie Town is some kind of gag name. It's, like gotta sound like some other word or something. Anyhow I'm happy our media don't manipulate us. That'd for the past or some dystopian future.

[Anonymous No.12611116]

>>12611080
Media is used to manipulate the population but just not to the extent that it's fully controlled by the government.

[Anonymous No.12611179]

>>12609256
you're correct about scrivener. from what i've seen you won't need sigil until you're ready to start formatting to upload.

[Anonymous No.12611209]

https://transfer.sh/9D9Hz/Scrivener-1.9.8.0.tar.gz
Updated my cracked scrivener with this, this morning. I've already written a few fanfics in it and it works fine and dandy.

[Anonymous No.12611694]

So this is my first time ever writing any sort of story so its gonna be pretty shitty but what I have so far is a few scenes following my protagonist getting into a gunfight With some enemies and finding a memory drive that he has no way to access.

Please critique me, my writing I need it. Thanks

A contact told me this place may have what I needed to decipher the memory drive I found on the man’s body, It looked pretty old but I wasn’t sure how old it was. I could’ve taken an taxi to get there and risk being tracked or I could walk there. Despite the rest of the mall being abandoned the elevators worked flawlessly, the outside was nondescript with the only sign of life being a bright green sign that read “second-hand items and tech too!” Pretty exciting for the only store in an otherwise destroyed mall. Walking in it dawned on me how this store was able to stay afloat thru all the chaos, it looked like a museum with ancient artifacts lining the walls, books, music, old tech, anything you could name they had it. It was like walking into a media collector’s dream.
I walked around the store to get a feel for it’s layout, To my suprise everything that looked real was real. As I was walking towards the counter to ask the owner about the drive he glanced down to where the drive was located and immediately hit the security button locking us both in. Confused I asked him “Why the hell did you lock me in?” He explained he has a memory drive scanner installed in the doorway that deciphers and neutralizes potential threats, but he found that the drive was being tracked by a local gang* and that they’re coming to get the drive back. The news drones were on the scene quicker than the cops and reported on the bodies of the men being found so the gang* must’ve put the pieces together and are now coming for what’s theirs.

*(I Don’t have a name for the gang yet but I’ll figure that out later)

[Anonymous No.12611748]

>>12611694
I'm not going to point out spelling or punctuation corrections, but there are some things you need to patch up in that regard.

I would ask you primarily how do you envision the narrator, that seems to be important to me when reading this. I get the sort of vibe of a younger guy and most the prose seems to suggest that. Because of this you should be a bit cautious of how you choose to word things as it should be believable within the context of the established character.

The two other nitpicks I have involve the dialogue and thereafter. It's a matter of style at the end of the day, but I feel uncomfortable using things that direct dialogue like 'I asked' and 'he explained'. The reason for this is I feel it ruins a bit of the flow at times, often I feel whatever gets a reader to register this is the individual is talking, that way so they can focus on the actual dialogue is the best approach.

To add onto that, I feel like your last two lines have a lot of show don't tell perhaps? I think that's a bit vague/cliche to offer as advice maybe though. It just feels as if that whole last bit is rushing so fast that this guy might be sitting down and explaining what had already happened, not what is happening.

[Anonymous No.12611771]

>>12601808
It's not futuristic, retard. It's off-the shelf technology we already have at this very moment. You're in a science fiction thread and you don't even know what Orion is, faggot?

[Anonymous No.12611854]

>>12611771
A company that used to produce B-films in the 80s until they made one about children's toys that bankrupted them.

[thiskillsthedarkelf No.12611895]

Tell me about the birdboi, anons?

[Anonymous No.12611961]

>>12611694
Try to avoid making the dialogue very passive. I used to do that all the time but not anymore.

I agree with >>12611748

[Anonymous No.12612016]

>>12601123
Great pic OP

[Anonymous No.12612067]

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/35126110-chronicles-of-primordial-wars?ac=1&from_search=true

Good young adult fiction. Easy to read, good plot, but nothing more.

[Anonymous No.12612086]

>>12612067
Who's it translated by? I don't think I've read a single good chink fiction book ever. Nation of creatively stunted people.

[Anonymous No.12612188]

>>12612067
>using goodreads for chink translated novels

>>12612086
https://www.novelupdates.com/series/chronicles-of-primordial-wars/

[Anonymous No.12612203]

>ip suddenly become static
>have to phonepost for 27 more days
fuck

[Anonymous No.12612211]

>>12612188
Yep, no surprises there, not even an official translator. I can count on one hand the number of fan-translated books that have been anywhere near approaching passable, and this chinese garbage wouldn't be anywhere near close even if it had the best translator alive. The fact that some retard actually thought to post this in /lit/ genuinely amazes me.

[Anonymous No.12612240]

>>12611895
spends way too much time writing on 4chan than he needs to

[Anonymous No.12612345]

hit me with the quality fonts for reading

[Anonymous No.12612382]

>>12601333
Why is the Tawny Man trilogy such a disgusting pile of filth? And why is the new one even worse? Wtf is that old bitch doing?

[Anonymous No.12612475]

>>12611895
Needs to be tar and feathered.

[Anonymous No.12612644]

>>12611209
apparently scrivner 3 is coming in the next few weeks for windows.

[Anonymous No.12612688]

>>12612644
I'm not even sure who cracks this stuff to be honest (I never find any reference to it in the predbs), but someone has already put up a decent request for the windows version of 3.xx on redacted.

[Anonymous No.12612696]

>>12612345
papyrus

[Anonymous No.12612702]

>>12612345
Wingdings is objectivley the best font, in that I can obscure the fact I'm reading erotic litRPGs in public

[Anonymous No.12612704]

>>12612688
3 doesnt have a windows version yet.

[Anonymous No.12612726]

>>12612704
People can put a bounty on requests for anything that is yet to exist and iirc that one was made ages ago.

We'll see.

[Anonymous No.12612727]

>>12612345
Default fallback = Georgia Pro
Reading on a phone/tablet sized screen = Literata
High quality EInk or OLED = Neue Haas Grotesk

Also the Kindle's built in default font rendering is actually really fucking good.

[Anonymous No.12612743]

why does lit hate us???

[Anonymous No.12612748]

>>12612743
Why do you care what /lit/ thinks? /pol/ shit on /lit/'s corpse and then raped it, we're the only thread that reads.

[Anonymous No.12612753]

Three-body Problem, by Cixin Liu
fun outlook on extremism and philosphy.
Very hard sci-fi.
Won best novel

[Anonymous No.12612757]

>>12612743
The fact that we actually read books makes them uncomfortable.

[Anonymous No.12612765]

>>12612743
Honestly, too much shilling and the attempts to literaturize fantasy has resulted in the complete abandonment of "reading for fun" caused many of the older regulars that posted here leaving.

[Anonymous No.12612785]

>>12611050
>The Fall (Thieves of Fate, #2) - Townsend, Tracy
I've seen Townsend somewhere..
>Angel Mage - Nix, Garth
Is this an abhorsen book?
>Hexarchate Stories - Lee, Yoon Ha
???
>Untitled Murderbot Novel (The Murderbot Diaries, #5) - Wells, Martha
For some reason I stopped reading those, I can't remember if book 2 was bad or not.
>The Light of All That Falls (The Licanius Trilogy, #3) - Islington, James
Dropped. Book 2 was shit.
>The Iron Season (The Golem and the Jinni, #2) - Wecker, Helene
Is the golem's wet walls going to finally be destroyed?
>Untitled (Shades of Grey, #2) - Fforde, Jasper
Never coming bro. He rather write hibernating humans than that.
>The Thorn of Emberlain (Gentleman Bastard, #4) - Lynch, Scott
Never coming. His exwife and current wife fucked him up.
>The Burning White (Lightbringer #5) - Weeks, Brent
This was supposed to be 2017, then August 2018, now he saw GURM and Rothfuss was doing (raking in money without publishing) and he wants to join them. I don't know when tight pussy part 2 is coming, if it ever will.
>Beneath the Twisted Trees - P. Beaulieu, Bradley
???
>Star Wars: Thrawn: Treason - Zahn, Timothy
Shit.

[Anonymous No.12612807]

How do you feel about the rise of incest?

[Anonymous No.12612812]

>>12612807
Highly based

[Anonymous No.12612815]

>>12612203
Why were you doing shit to get banned, then ban evading in the first place?

[Anonymous No.12612820]

>>12612345
Comic Sans was designed to be pleasant to look at

[Anonymous No.12612826]

>>12610994
The only book I'm currently waiting on is Perhaps the Stars.

[Anonymous No.12612836]

Jim Butcher is a hack

[Anonymous No.12612839]

>>12602076
>Occasionally adding her medication to his food too

[Anonymous No.12612898]

>>12612807
What rise of incest?

[Anonymous No.12612904]

>>12612785
>Townsend
Probably you are associating it with a fictional character
>abhorsen
No. Abhorsen counts as YA/childrens.
>???
Completionism, I like the characters but holy shit is the plot of the main series bad.
>Murderbot
Filler happens after book 1 but I like the character so I'm definitely pirating it ASAP.
>Book 2 was shit
Too bad I love the characters and would read it even if it was a slice of life about the characters rowing to Mt Doom.
>destroyed
My bet is on a middle book.
>Fforde
This author writes well but is a fucking traitor.
>never coming
Also he's probably out of plot ideas. Man the books decreased in quality but Necromancer!Locke sounds hilarious.
>The Burning White
Weeks already finished it but his publisher is going to wait months to publish it. Hopefully it will not be totally shit but even if it is, I would read my way through it for Gavin.
>???
It will most likely be the most nicely written prose wise after GGK on the list.
>
Thrawn is unironically ACDC Sherlock in space or would be if Disney didn't make his Watson (my favourite character, Pellaeon) irrelevant and make Zahn write shit plots about Darth Vader. I find it moderately hilarious that Orson Scott Card illustrates Zahn as an excellent scifi author and a while later Disney cracks down on interesting plots and SW fans get Ender's Game: Thrawn edition. Still, I like this character and would read a story about him drifting on a space asteroid slo mo through space.

This is the life of a characterfag.

[Anonymous No.12612905]

I know Rothfuss gets a lot of shit here but I think there is something so incredibly cozy about The Kingkiller Books. So is Denna working with the Chandrian or is she helping out the Amyr or one of their sects that managed to survive?

[Anonymous No.12612917]

>>12612807
It's still not enough.

[Anonymous No.12612919]

>>12612905
>new book never
ripperoni to you ;_;7

[Anonymous No.12612931]

>>12612919

I wonder if Kote and Ambrose will ever settle their differences and become friends or call a truce to settle something together. I guess their relationship is beyond repair.

[Anonymous No.12612948]

>>12612931
It would most definitely happen eventually assuming Rothfuss got his shit together. UNDERSTANDING is one of the most overused tropes. KKC would have been good if he left out the intricacies of high school and elf sex and just resolved the goddamn Chandrian.

[Anonymous No.12612955]

>>12612948

I think they will settle their differences but something will happen to Kote where he is put in a predicament or he is made to look like he has killed Ambrose's father after he has been murdered by someone and Kote takes the blame. Also Master Ash is without a doubt a Chandrian because of the whole Ash/Cinder connection, sort of foreshadowing with the whole name thing. Would be neat if all of the masters at the University wound up ironically being Chandrians.

[Anonymous No.12612959]

would you guys read fantasy porn with some plot tossed in, be honest

[Anonymous No.12613004]

>>12610854
bitch you posted this late saturday night

[Anonymous No.12613017]

>>12612959
of course.
go read wild wastes and fostering faust.

[Anonymous No.12613211]

>>12612904
>characterfag
Explains why you reading such shit.

[Anonymous No.12613217]

>>12612959
I totally would if it was well written.
I've tried a few of what's currently out there and popular but they're generally too low quality to hold my interest.

[Anonymous No.12613222]

>>12613004
And it was on page 7 when I did it.

[Anonymous No.12613259]

Why aren't there more fantasy books focused on building like the Daniel Black books?

[Anonymous No.12613286]

>>12613284
>>12613284