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I want to learn more about psychoanalysis. Where should I start?

Pic related?

>> No.1259940

Yeah, Freud is basically the starting point. You want to read all of his major books

>> No.1259947

>Where should I start?
your vater, ja?

>> No.1259948

If you're starting from (practically) nought then it's a good idea to get a textbook that'll give you a summary of the discipline's evolution.

Captcha: phalluses everywhere

>> No.1260052

>>1259940
Freud was a hack who ignored the scientific method in favor of his own sketchy speculation.
Carl Jung for the win.

>> No.1260065

>>1259940

Have you been smoking leaf, powder, glass or rock? You don't "start off" by reading dense 19th century bullshit. Read some journal articles, go to a library and buy an undergrad textbook, or fork out $5 for a used one online, read it, then stop asking stupid questions.

>> No.1260067

Also, SPOILER: It's all bullshit

>> No.1260079

>>1260052
Jung castrated psychoanalyses

>> No.1260082

Is Jung in common usage today or is it stil Freud?

>> No.1260090

>>1260082
No

>> No.1260100

Freudianideas have been proven to be incorrect, one would already have assumed this since EVERYTHING was connected to sex according to Freud.

Jung brought esoteric practices into psychoanalysis, some of his case studies are extremly interesting.He goes some way to explaining man's superstitious nature and the necessity to maintain this in order to remain a healthy individual.#

read Jung's 'Modern man in search of a soul'

>> No.1260105

Fuck. that. shit.

Lacan via Zizek.

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>>1260105

>Lacan via Zizek

>> No.1260134

Follies of the Wise & The Freud Wars by Frederick Crews
Freud's Paranoid Quest by John Farrell
Seductive Mirage: An Exploration of the Work of Sigmund Freud by Allen Esterson
A Most Dangerous Method: The Story of Jung, Freud, and Sabina Spielrein by John Kerr

>> No.1260153

>>1260105
Lacan is great, but strangely not so much for psychology. But for a different perspective on literature or philosophy, fantastic.

OP should read The Man Who..., The Mismeasure of Man, stuff like that. General textbooks as well, as they'll cite other books and articles too.

>> No.1260170

If I get sent to therepy what can I expect?

It may actually happen and I'd like to know what they are going to be working with.

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1260252

Read "Freud" by philosopher/researcher Richard Wollheim. It's a sympathetic overview of what Freud was talking about. 240 pages.

>>1260100
>EVERYTHING was connected to sex according to Freud.

Hawhaw, no.

>>1260170

Probably cognitive behavioural therapy if anything. Depends on what you're there for. Or he or she might just sit there taking notes and nodding his or her head while you talk about things which irritate you. Which is probably about as effective. Anti-depressants help too.

>> No.1260278

>psychoanalysis

Lol, is anyone still buying that bullshit? Might as well lay some cards, see what they say if you're into charlatanerie.

>> No.1260287

>>1260278
>doesn't understand the subject in question, please ignore me.

>> No.1260289

We're on a /lit/ board. If OP thought Freud had anything to do with science, he'd ask /sci/. Freud's a good read, and probably the best place to start. Man and his Symbols by Jung is fun too.

>> No.1260302

OP here

>If OP thought Freud had anything to do with science, he'd ask /sci/.

Pretty much this. I know psychoanalysis is junk science, I'm only interested because of the applications psychoanalysis/Freudian ideas have towards literary analysis.

And I'm also just plain curious.

My library has a 1000 page anthology of a bunch of his work, and I'm tempted to check that out.

I plan to explore others too, like Jung and Lacan (and yes, Zizek). But I think I'll start with Freud.

Campbell is influenced by Freud and Jung too, no?

>> No.1260304

>>1260105
>Lacan via Zizek.

I thought Zizek was a disciple of Hegel..

>> No.1260310

>>1260302
Check this out for Zizek:
http://www.mediafire.com/?tqw9ujoapfgw6
>>1260304
No...

>> No.1260330

>>1260304

He's a Marxist, so in a way he is I guess.

>> No.1260331

>>1260310
really? because almost everything he says resonates more with Hegel than Lacan..

>> No.1260335

>>1260310
>>1260331
>>1260330

Wikipedia says he's all three:

>Slavoj Žižek (pronounced [ˈslavoj ˈʒiʒɛk]; born 21 March 1949) is a Slovenian continental philosopher and critical theorist working in the traditions of Hegelianism, Marxism and Lacanian psychoanalysis.

>> No.1260343

AUTISM ! yeah :D

>> No.1260351

>>1260331
Well, that was a little black and white of me really.

Hegel is bound to have influence, particularly with the Marxist education in Yugoslavia. However, he talks about Heidegger as a bigger influence, and then more so later Derrida. He wasn't really considered a Marxist.

He also says his Lacan is J A Miller's Lacan.

>> No.1260362

>>1260351
(that's from conversations with zizek by the way)

>> No.1260366

>I'm only interested because of the applications psychoanalysis/Freudian ideas have towards literary analysis.

Adam Phillips
Leo Bersani
Mary Jacobus
early Harold Bloom