fascism

[Anonymous No.12578045]

What are the best introductions to fascism and fascist philosophy? Fascist in the broad sense, or conservative revolution if you prefer

I am reading Kerry Bolton's Thinkers and Artists of the Right, but I want something that goes deeper into the common worldview shared by people like Ezra Pound, Ernst Junger, Werner Sombart, Carl Schmitt, and so on. Something that captures it at a spiritual level and doesn't pull any punches.

[Anonymous No.12578090]

Codreanu and Rivera. They are truly agitators, not philosopher, but aren't those the true heart and spirit and voice of the movement?

[Anonymous No.12578115]

>>12578090
where to start with Primo de Rivera?

[Anonymous No.12578153]

>>12578115
Keep in mind it's Jose Antonio you are looking for, the scion of Miguel. Start with whatever authentic letters you find translated to a language you know.

[Anonymous No.12578253]

>>12578045
>What are the best introductions to fascism and fascist philosophy?


go to Spain and mouth off to the Gardia Civil.

[Anonymous No.12578798]

>>12578045
>Fascist in the broad sense
No such thing, it's a specific type of government and value system. For that Giovanni Gentile and Mussolini himself, I'd say. Work from there. Evola's "Fascism viewed from the right" is interesting too.

[Anonymous No.12578816]

How to Pick Yummy Lent from Your Butthole in Public Without Being Noticed, for Dummies

[Anonymous No.12578841]

>>12578045
>Ernst Junger
>Fascist

[Anonymous No.12578842]

>>12578045
>conservative revolution if you prefer
>conservative revolution
>conservative
>revolution

[Anonymous No.12578849]

how many times must we have this thread? lurk moar newfag

[Anonymous No.12578897]

>>12578045
>Implying fascists have ever written anything of intellectual merit and have not just been stretching the thought "I hate jews, wish I was more masculine and hate women disobeying me" out over a few hundred pages, adding some vague hero myth and appealing to tribal emotions

And then you have people like >>12578115, someone actually sat down and put that shitty ass quote next to a touched-up photo of the author and posting it like a fucking facebook mom posting minion memes

[Anonymous No.12578940]

>>12578897

Fascists on suicide watch from being so BTFO.

[Anonymous No.12578972]

>>12578897
>All fascism are Hitlerian National Socialism
There are other types of fascism like Francoism and Peronism.

[Anonymous No.12578984]

>>12578897
Which book written by fascist thinker are you referring there? Or are you making another hallucinatory strawman like commies always do? You are mentally ill, very sick people.

[Anonymous No.12578988]

>>12578972
Is nazism even fascism? I don't think it meets all the criteria iirc

[Anonymous No.12579022]

>>12578988
Dunno. Someone should read Il Doctrino Fascismo by Benito Mussolini and then do some sort of ideological comparison to national socialism.

[Anonymous No.12579044]

>>12578972

>My special flavor of Fascism has never been tried!

[Anonymous No.12579065]

>>12579044
That's not what he wrote you illiterate commie.

[Anonymous No.12579096]

>>12579065
>Anime
>Fascism
Mental illness conformation

[Anonymous No.12579111]

[Anonymous No.12579135]

>>12579111
The book that proves NoFap is more than just a meme.

[Anonymous No.12579150]

>>12578988
German fascism is concerned with blood, Italian with clothing itself in law, Romanian, from Thracian stock, with religion

[Anonymous No.12579394]

>>12578045
Cultured Thug on Youtube has spoken about this (books). Good channel for introduction to Fascism in general too.

[Anonymous No.12579414]

>>12579111
>implying Wilhelm "Aurora Borealis is semen energy" Reich is worth reading
not even Evola had such retarded opinions.

[Anonymous No.12579446]

>>12579022
t. calling every history major

[Anonymous No.12579471]

>>12578045
'Fascism' is in-fact very broad. An unwittingly neoliberal person would refer to the ideals of Ernst Junger as 'Fascist' (Nazi, probably). Monarchism and Catholic reaction would be 'Fascist'. Konrad Adenauer would be 'Fascist' if not for the rubber stamp of approval from the USA. That's how distorted the political terminology is.

Forget 'Fascist'. You're better off just reading the Forbidden Texts you're told are "outdated" or "dangerous". Read Mein Kampf. Read Storm of Steel, Imperium, Seige, Industrial Society And Its Future, The Fourth Political Theory, Decline of The West, The Russian Revolution, God And The State, Rules For Radicals, MiniManual of the Urban Guerrilla. Read the Silmarillion if it suites you. The point being that no "ideology" in particular is necessary to fight those things we ally ourselves with the word "Fascist" in order to oppose. These seemingly-disjointed works foster a common mentality which is absolutely hostile to the evil we encounter, and arms us with ideas of opposition to that evil, and the knowledge that active violent resistance to that evil is just and necessary.

[Anonymous No.12579487]

>>12578841
Walter Benjamin thought so, it must true.

[Anonymous No.12579507]

>>12579414
I have no idea where people would lump Reich (a Jew iirc) in with far-right ideology. His stuff is more theosophy-tier New age, from what I see. At least people like Rudolph Steiner had something to contribute, however wacky on the surface. Reich

[Anonymous No.12579510]

Mussolini's Intellectuals by A James Gregor

[Anonymous No.12579514]

>>12579487
Welfare for black transsexual furries is the only political goal that can be called "non-fascist".

[Anonymous No.12579522]

>>12579507
I was talking about Reich having opinions that were so unbelievably retarded that they would only be found in the most insane of mystics, yet even they don't hold those opinions.

[Anonymous No.12579537]

>>12579522
Right, right.

[Anonymous No.12579558]

[Anonymous No.12579603]

>>12578842
>>12578841
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konservative_Revolution

[Anonymous No.12580037]

>>12579522
Yeah i was memeing more than anything. But I do think reich had some interesting/prescient ideas. And mass psychology was written before he really went off the deep end with all the orgone stuff

Taking fascist writings seriously is equally as gay as unironically believing new age shit tho

[Anonymous No.12580047]

>>12580037
Then I guess Adorno, Horkheimer, Marcuse, Piccone, Habermas, and the entire rest of the left and liberal elite are gay for taking Heidegger, Schmitt, and others deadly seriously

[Anonymous No.12580049]

>>12578115
Selected Writings of Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera

[Anonymous No.12580115]

>>12580047
I was referring more to "muh heritage" idealists like Codreanu, Evola, etc. You don't see many /pol/tards reading and understanding heidegger

[Anonymous No.12581485]

>>12578045
read the futurist manifesto

[Anonymous No.12581503]

>>12578897
>these are the intellectual behemoths of the left

[Anonymous No.12581522]

>>12578841
The Worker along with the Futurist Manifiesto tthe books that shaped or understand fascism better.

[Anonymous No.12581534]

I know he's not a fascist but does anyone have any literature on Salazar or his Estado Novo? I've been pretty interested in him in a while but I can't read Portuguese and I just haven't found anything worthwhile on him.

[Anonymous No.12581560]

>>12578045
>the best introductions to fascism and fascist philosophy
Certain things need to be established first the form the axioms and context where fascism makes sense. You should fully understand HBD before you start reading fascist literature to truly understand the ideology. I recommend just reading through the alt-hype reader instead of things like The Bell Curve, the alt-hype reader is more focused, more recent, and covers a wide range of topics.

http://thealternativehypothesis.org/

[Anonymous No.12582616]

>>12580115
>Evola
>Muh heritage
t. has never read Evola

[Anonymous No.12582668]

>>12578842
what is Sparta

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oEULhtSEDhe No.12582681]

>>12582668
The reactionary has counterrevolutions

[Anonymous No.12582761]

Ezra Pound was like literally insane

[Anonymous No.12582772]

>>12578988
characterized by dictatorial power,
forcible suppression of opposition
and strong regimentation of society and of the economy

[Anonymous No.12582789]

>>12582772
So Stalin's Russia is fascistic?

[Anonymous No.12582791]

I quite hate how people tend to advice polemists rather than actual thinkers/philosophers.

Aristotle
Saint Thomas Aquinas
Hegel
Schmitt
Mussolini/Gentile
Joseph Mérel (if you read French)

[Anonymous No.12582885]

>>12582789
It basically operated like one but because of the underlying anti-nationalism it doesn't get grouped in with it.

[Anonymous No.12582944]

>>12582791
Shame its in such a gay language

[Anonymous No.12582960]

>>12582772
>>12582885
retard

[Anonymous No.12582966]

>>12582791
The pictured books seem nice. Any idea how many are available in German or English?

[Anonymous No.12582971]

>>12582885
it didnt operate like that retard
a fascist system isn't entirely build upon socialism
fascism is still mostly capitalism

[Anonymous No.12582978]

>>12582791
Très bien, but sedevacantism is pretty cringe.

[Anonymous No.12582991]

>>12582772
you forgot to add
>bad guys
to separate it it from 'left wing' governments that fit your criteria

[Anonymous No.12582995]

>>12578972
Franco is a national catholic, and basically an authoritarian centrist with some capitalist leanings.

[Anonymous No.12583002]

>>12580115
Imagine thinking that your own heritage isn't important.
Such thoughts can only take root among the deracinated populations of the European colonies.

[Anonymous No.12583047]

>>12583002
>Such thoughts can only take root among the deracinated populations of the European colonies.
There is another way...
https://youtu.be/vMG-LWyNcAs

[Anonymous No.12583065]

>>12578897
Is this the best anti-fascist have to offer?

[Anonymous No.12583076]

>>12578897
Codreanu did something important in his life besides you lazy nigger

[Anonymous No.12583080]

>>12579096
On what site are we again ?

[Anonymous No.12583158]

>>12582791
Hegel is quite far from fascism. It's actually bordering on idiocy to label him such

[Anonymous No.12583240]

>>12579044
>holds adamant antifascist beliefs
>has no knowledge about fascism worth mentioning
Sounds like DK effect.

[Anonymous No.12583554]

OP, your picture, I grew up about 50 feet from where he lived in Ireland.

[Anonymous No.12583573]

>>12582995
Early Franco regime is close to Italian fascism

[Anonymous No.12583585]

>>12583047
I don't understand

[Anonymous No.12583624]

Don't bother OP. You'll realize fascism is far from the populistic ideas you've been fed, and you'll just end up dropping the ideology all together. Just keep being a simple /pol/tard that laughs at SJWs and niggers. It's a much easier path, and it will still give you the sense of belonging your desperately struggling to find.

[Anonymous No.12583633]

>>12583585
For /pol/tards dog breed metaphors are like food metaphors for normal people.

[Anonymous No.12583636]

>>12583624
>>12583633
seething leftypol

[Anonymous No.12583652]

>>12583624
>/pol/tard
>>12583633
>/pol/tards

Pretty transparent. There's also more heterozygosity in the human population than there are in dogs.

[Anonymous No.12583659]

>>12583652
since you wanted to talk about how low brow and uninformed it is to talk about dogs. Right?

[Anonymous No.12583668]

>>12583633
Do people really deny the existence of biological race?

[Anonymous No.12583670]

>>12583668
I believe in biological race alright.

The human race. :)

[Anonymous No.12583746]

>>12583636
>if you don't agree with me that means your're part of the other radical retards

I'm pretty conservative myself, buddy. You guys are clowns, and nobody takes you seriously. Useful idiots is what you are, but not for the ideology you think you're supporting.

[Anonymous No.12583770]

Fascism is just "populism I dont like"

[Anonymous No.12583856]

>>12583668
Yes, continuously.

>>12583770
Doesn't even need to be populist. Don't like it? Fascism. Try to ask people how they define fascism or note how they use of the term is incorrect? You're a fascist.

[Anonymous No.12583877]

>>12583670
Why do you guys use the word 'racist' all the time if race doesn't exist?

[Anonymous No.12583882]

>why do you use the word 'religion' all the time if god doesn't exist

[Anonymous No.12583926]

>>12583882
I know this is a fallacious reply because you do not have a real one but religion is a world view encompassing more than just God, who does exist.
I'm saying that the word 'racist' is meant to rebuke those expressing prejudice towards others races, but if there are no other races, then isn't using the word itself just nonscensical and redundant?
Isn't using the word 'racist' admitting the existence of other races and going against your own beliefs?

[Anonymous No.12583952]

>>12583926
No retard

[Anonymous No.12584088]

>>12583877
>why do you use the word "conspirationist" if there is no world conspiracy

I have no stake in this whole shithole of a thread but this post strikes me as particularly brainlet.

[Anonymous No.12584102]

>>12583926
No it just means the person you're labeling "racist" believes in the existence of those races.

Calling someone a "deist" doesn't mean you believe in god, it means you think the person you're labeling believes in god. It's not that hard ffs.

[Anonymous No.12584144]

>>12584102
Yeah but the person who isnt "racist" can clearly observe the type of person that the racist may be referring to so by extension they are in a way confirming that person as a certain race. The deist thing has no empirical observation.

[Anonymous No.12584159]

>why do you guys use the word 'communist' all the time if true communism doesn't exist?

[Anonymous No.12584843]

>>12583746
>conservartism
>calling anyone else useful idiot
you faggots are the worst you pretend like god but also enlightment ideasm, you and liberals are cut from the same tree, impotent, lacking any vitality just as liberalism reason is your master and will be your downfall.

[Anonymous No.12584954]

>>12578045
What's wrong with his face?

[Anonymous No.12585215]

>>12579471
This.
Ideology is a form of propaganda (which isn't a bad thing), it's a way to simplify political thought so that people who aren't all to smart and who don't have all that much time to read complex books can follow along. After WW2 the ideology of fascism is useless because it is no longer useful in rhetoric, but the ideas live on and will manifest under a different "ideology" this time.

[Anonymous No.12585330]

>>12578045
The Doctrine of Fascism by Mussolini
The Origins and Doctrine of Fascism by Giovanni Gentile
The Philosphy of Fascusm by Mario Palmeri
The Coming Corporate State by Alexander Raven Thompson
Fascism: 100 Questions Asked and Answered by Oswald Mosley

None of the names you listed deal with Fascism. Ernst Junger was an opponent of Fascism. Ezra Pound did write for Fascists but its nothing concrete like reading the actual source material.
Stick to the origins and dont read third party sources. You can always move on to that after you've build your foundations.

[Anonymous No.12585343]

>>12584954
Its a fencing scar called a Schmitte or a Mensur Scar
Academic Fencing was a tradition in Germany and Austria and it was considered a badge of honour to have a scar on your face, proof that you were a badass

[Anonymous No.12585364]

>>12578045
The conservative revolution was in opposition to fascism
Evola and his ilk were against fascism, not radically against it like the communists, but they believed it to be a lower class revolution similar to communism, therefore plebiean and degenerate.

[Anonymous No.12585377]

>>12583158
Care to explain?

[Anonymous No.12585379]

>>12585364
>The conservative revolution
I've long wondered what the key texts of interwar revolutionary conservatism were. Would you care to illuminate?

[Anonymous No.12585385]

>>12582789
Russian Fascists considered him one
I dont, personally
But there are similarities
He was literally a nationalist socialist

[Anonymous No.12585400]

>>12585379
I've only read Evola, he talks about the conservative revolution and its opposition to Hitler, who Evola described as "possessed by a demon"
I cant remember exactly where but im fairly sure it was 'Notes on the Third Reich'

[Anonymous No.12585411]

>>12582971
>fascism is still mostly capitalism
How? The economy in pretty much every fascist country was centrally planned
In rare cases where the market wasnt directly affected by the state it was still overseen by the state and if things got out of order the state would step in
Its socialism with minimum/maximum wages and relative private ownership
Just because its not outright marxism doesnt mean its capitalism, those are two extremes

[Anonymous No.12585412]

>>12585400
>"possessed by a demon"
Evola was very observant, he made a slight mistake here however. Hitler was an avatar of Vishnu.

[Anonymous No.12585416]

>>12584954
He got roughed up by a communist agitator

[Anonymous No.12585422]

>>12583624
I moved away from fascism because it seemed to populist and, well, common (in the pejorative sense of the word). Not elitist enough, really.

[Anonymous No.12585424]

>>12585400
He mentions it in this interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiCtdi5nCoA

[Anonymous No.12585431]

>>12585412
Plenty of people have said Hitler had some supernatural element to him
His secretary said he had an "aura" and whenever he entered the room you felt his presence even without seeing him
Diana Mosley said he was totally unique and unlike any other human she had ever met, and she couldnt describe why
Theres definitley something about men like Hitler, Napoleon, Caesar, Alexander and so on. They have inhuman stamina and the ability to speak through people's ideological barriers. Not sure what it is.

[Anonymous No.12585439]

>>12585422
too*

[Anonymous No.12585481]

>>12585330
Also reading Plato's Republic is a good idea. It was a big influence on Mussolini.

[Anonymous No.12585504]

>>12582978
i'm not sede nor is any book i rec

[Anonymous No.12585537]

Does the fact we haven't collectively murdered weev mean that he can never be the Socrates he wishes he could be? Is it because, unlike Andrew, Socrates had interesting things of substance to say and not just Confederate flag bumper sticker text?

[Anonymous No.12585544]

>>12585537
Literally fucking who

[Anonymous No.12585557]

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