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Was it Shakespearean?

>> No.12576878

It was quite Homerian with a tinge of Dantesque

>> No.12576901

>>12576871
It was very Randian.

>> No.12576903

>>12576871
Quite Landian

>> No.12576917
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>>12576871
It's Niechzean and Machiavellian

>> No.12576927

Guts!—I am sick at heart,

When I behold—Guts, I say!—This push

Will cheer me ever, or disseat me now.

I have lived long enough. My way of life

Is fall'n into the sere, the yellow leaf,

And that which should accompany old age,

As honor, love, obedience, troops of friends,

I must not look to have, but, in their stead,

Curses, not loud but deep, mouth-honor, breath

Which the poor heart would fain deny and dare not.

Guts!

>> No.12576935

>>12576871
not sure if O O O O Shakesphearean rag, but definitely reminiscent of greek tragedies

>> No.12577129

>>12576935
Wasnt it Shakespaherian

>> No.12577422

>>12577129
perhaps a bit of Macbeth, but just generally classically tragic I'd say

>> No.12577595

"I dare do all that may become a man;
Who dares do more, is none"

>> No.12577741

>>12576871
I don't remember Shakespeare being a talentless hack.

>> No.12578701

>>12577741
You remember wrong.

>> No.12578743

>>12576871
it was quite typical of the post-bomb Japanese artistic movement of something edgy happening suddenly for the sole purpose of shock value.

>> No.12578848

>>12578743
It has a long-ass buildup and it literally sets the plot in motion, the fuck are you talking about

>> No.12578877

>>12578743
It's one of the most bitter betrayals imaginable. It was shocking yes, but also perfect for the story. Pretty sure most other generic shit anime/manga would not have dared to try something like that.

>> No.12578910

>>12578848
Berserk is literally known for the anime ending by having almost all the characters abruptly dying after being transported to the behelit dimension or whatever.

>> No.12578929

>>12578877
>betrayal
I don't get it. Griffith openly says several times that he doesn't give a fuck about the Hawks and that they're just mercenaries to him. Who did he betray during the Eclipse, again? More importantly, did he even have a choice? His other option was to remain a broken retard cripple for the rest of his likely short days.

>> No.12578930

>>12578743

>happening suddenly
the whole situation and internal dialogues lead to this moment from the very moment Griffith was cured
>something edgy happening suddenly for the sole purpose of shock value.
you dont know what tragedy is, drink bleach and kys you 10 IQ attention whore

>> No.12578946

>>12578930
you're the type of person I imagine to like ASOIAF

none of this shit is 'tragedy', it's pure schlock.

>> No.12578994

>>12578929
I don't remember that. I remember how he tried to stop Guts from leaving. I remember there being this athmosphere of trust and love for their leader among the band. So when they save his tortured ass and he kills everybody instantly when given the chance, it does seem like a great betrayal to me. Been a while since I read it though. Obviously that was the only realistic choice for his character but it makes it no less shocking. It's like when you know your toast is about to be done but the sound of it popping up scares you anyway.

>> No.12579026

>>12578994
they've all been disposable to him since the very first moment. it's never suggested that he gives a shit about any of them other than Guts, and that's only because he's stronger than Griffith.

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>>12578743
>so you're telling me everyon dies at the end of Hamlet??
>wow so edgy, typical post-Norman invasion British artistic movement, pure shock value

>> No.12579075

>>12579039
maybe we should add Final Destination to the list of works that are automatically good because everyone dies and that's like Hamlet

>> No.12579374

>>12579075
you're the one who's calling a classic greek tragedy trope "edgy" and with a "sole purpose of shock value" (typical meme non-criticisms)