I have no friends

[Anonymous No.12570508]

How am I supposed to interact with normies in a way that doesn't betray my morality?

[Anonymous No.12570514]

What kind of morality do you have that stops you from talking to people?

[Anonymous No.12570518]

>>12570508
pity them and smile to them
that's basically all you need to know to live a peaceful life

[Anonymous No.12570532]

>>12570514
Talking to people isn't building successful relationships. How am i supposed to carry myself and interact in such a fucking disturbingly hedonistic world?

[Anonymous No.12570562]

>>12570518
Anon this isnt helpful I want to be friendly and not cyclically jaded

[Anonymous No.12570806]

>>12570562
why do you want to be friendly?

[Anonymous No.12570820]

>>12570532
Why do you find hedonism disturbing?

[Anonymous No.12570830]

>>12570532
What is confusing you? Regardless of how hedonistic the world is, what is stopping you from smiling at people and exchanging pleasantries?

[Anonymous No.12570845]

>>12570508
>>12570532
I'm not really sure what your problem is. The only person that can betray your morality is you, not anyone that you interact with. Perhaps try reading Marcus Aurelius' Meditations; it has a good deal about not letting interactions with other people hinder your good character.

[Anonymous No.12570854]

>>12570562
well if you want to interact with them in an appropriate way, then first of all they should like you, which will happen if you smile

[Anonymous No.12570891]

If you think your moral code sets you apart from society, the reality is that you probably developed this code out of exclusion and resentment, in an attempt to "own" your social isolation by attributing it to personal preference so you can have the illusion of agency.

This is a normal, reflexive reaction to the trauma of social failure. You first step in becoming normal is getting over this illusion and ditching this defense mechanism altogether. Realize that people didn't fail your moral standards, *you* failed *their* social standards, and all your idiosyncrasies are nothing but psychological layers protecting you from this truth. As painful as it is, it's better to accept this now and start the healing process immediately than to be forced to deal with this truth years later, when your personality will have grown and matured around this concept, making its surgical removal difficult and an existential threat to the entire edifice.

When you do that, then you meditate you way into a blank page. Read about meditation and pick up practices that are meant to give you insight about the fragility of Identity and the illusions of the self. Rid yourself of all the dead weight. Learn to discipline and control your mind so it will never pull any of its illusory tricks again. After several hours of practice, you'll be ready. Don't worry about the when, you'll know. And when you get there, re-enter society as a new man. An enlightened man. A man whose faculties are there to keep him in touch with other souls around him, not shelter him from them. A man who has something to learn from everybody. A man who can understand other people's experiences and subjectivity intuitively. A man who is known for the noblest of traits: empathy. A superior, kind, enlightened, intellectual man. A man like me basically.

[Anonymous No.12570898]

>>12570891
This a very convoluted way of saying "Accept homosexuality and transgenderism as good you stupid incel"

[Anonymous No.12570948]

>>12570508
Rather than 'betray my morality' it sounds like what you really mean is 'violate my integrity'. Interact with people in a way that allows you to be true to your values and if they accept you, great, if not then look elsewhere.

>>12570891
This is moralizing. Empathy isn't the noblest traits for everyone. I wouldn't say he is a 'social failure' either. He's probably just depressed and/or anxious and needs to combat that before talking to normies.

[Anonymous No.12570965]

>OP asks a vague question and refuses to respond in any significant way to clarify it

[Anonymous No.12572449]

>>12570891
>bro if you don't have friends or enjoy a lot of people's company just drop all your social/moral standards because ur a piece of shit lolol

Thanks for the help shitwad. Thank you for the complete diagnosis of my character and psychological coping structures.

[Anonymous No.12572482]

>>12570965
I don't really know how else to fucking explain other than i feel at a base level that i'm incompatible with almost everyone because the things i want and value and so perpendicular to theirs. That doesn't make my values shit, especially in my social scene where almost all of these people will claim to have been acting "young and dumb" about a decade from now when in reality they have full possession of all the cognitive ability needed to act morally NOW. I feel like blaming myself is counterproductive to my goal, just dropping all my convictions about how i should act would be fucking retarded, so i'm at an impasse. I'm not stupid enough to just "forget it and go with the flow", and i think that mindset is a group delusion anyway.

[Anonymous No.12573195]

just b urself

[Anonymous No.12573215]

>>12572482
>incompatible with almost everyone because the things i want and value and so perpendicular to theirs
That shouldn't get in the way of being social. It's a mark of maturity to be able to make yourself at home with people who disagree with you.
Incidentally a good indicator of how childish the modern left can be is the rash of articles you get around a holiday along the lines of 'how to get along with your relative who has political views you disagree with'.
An adult should be able to not be an asshole when he wants to be, so any difference of opinion shouldn't stop you from being pleasant to others, and if you are pleasant to them, most of the time they'll be pleasant to you, and by magic, socialising and relationships are born. A smile and a friendly word don't require any great commitment to a cause or a worldview

[Anonymous No.12573287]

>>12570891
absolutely cringe and bluepilled. is this pasta from mark manson's blog or something?

[Anonymous No.12573317]

>>12570518
thank you

[Anonymous No.12573430]

>>12573215
I dont want to smile and be friendly to people, i want to be able to socialize at a meaningful level. It isn't about politics or ideals, it's about a completely different expectation of morality. I can deal with people that don't agree with me, i can't deal with masses of people that don't act how i think people should ideally act at all. There is room for different opinions and ideologies within sets of morality, and I'm not insinuating otherwise.

I am tired of just playing nice with people though. How am i supposed to meaningfully socialize, non-superficially, with people whose moral ideas are a complete mystery to me? Without stooping to a morality that i find wrong in order to "be like them"?

[Anonymous No.12573446]

>>12570891
>just stop having any meaningful identity and convictions at all. Other people are doing it, so you should too :)
See yourself to the door

[Anonymous No.12573461]

But what do you even talk about with normies if you barely interact with pop culture and don't have a life and been in social isolation so long that you have no means to relate, stories to tell ect

[Anonymous No.12573509]

>>12570508
with that kind of attitude you're going to remain forever alone, get used to it

[Anonymous No.12573517]

>>12570508
>>>/soc/

[Anonymous No.12573520]

>>12573461
>talk to anyone IRL
>"Hey, what's your instagram" (was literally asked this SIX times with IRL people last year and once this year)
>Haha, I don't have instagram. I'm not good at photography :)
>"You don't need to be good at photography to have an insta ^_^"
like WTF instagram is literally just people posting photos yes it is for photography fucking morons

[Anonymous No.12573535]

>>12570891
>Get spooked and make your self a moral slave of other dude, this is the superior man, the enlightened and intellectual.
What a self diluted person.
>>12570508
You are supposed to find people that are equal or similar to you, not mutilate yourself to fit in with people you dont enjoy to be with.

[Anonymous No.12573550]

was this board ever about books?

[Anonymous No.12573599]

>>12573550
>was this board ever about books?
20% are about books and feels, 10% about feels and the rest is books with all kinds of flavours in it.
The mods are gonna shut down this thread in a matter of minute though. The /r9k/ lone presence seems to be getting bigger as time passes.

[Anonymous No.12573610]

>>12573430
>socialize at a meaningful level
What would this entail? What would constitute 'meaningful', socialising?
You have to bear in mind that your own standards are just as much a mystery to others as their's are to you. There is nobody in the world with exactly the same ideas as you, exactly the same morality, and there is no reason to assume yours are preferable (though for the sake of this thread I will assume you are Socrates and Jesus rolled into one)
At some point you have to either be a hermit or accept the flaws inherent in being social

[Anonymous No.12573614]

>>12570532
how do you plan on building successful relationships if you don't talk to people?

[Anonymous No.12573615]

>>12573550
who needs books when you've got suicidal teens

[Anonymous No.12573654]

>>12570891
Judging by the amount of angry replies, I'd say this post hit pretty close to home for a lot you lollll

>>12573461
Ask them questions and continue the conversation until you can provide something. If you can't then conversations like these will slowly build up content you can relate back to. Find out what interests people.

[Anonymous No.12573668]

Just get a paper route or become a night guard.

Moral people don't need much more than some shelter and a daily meal.