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12563621 No.12563621 [Reply] [Original]

What is the purpose of Literature?

>> No.12563631

>>12563621

To convey ideas, using the medium of writing.

>> No.12563644

To further the Revolution, of course. It concerns me that you even feel the need to ask such a thing. I’ll be informing the Commissar of this.

>> No.12563718

>>12563621
Literature doesn’t need a point. If something you’re reading “has a point” it’s very likely it’s not literature.

>> No.12563899

>>12563621
To spread lies and keep people away from true knowledge.

>> No.12563920

>>12563899
Fuck off Plato, no one invited you

>> No.12564365

Make people comfortable with life

>> No.12564383

>>12563621
It has all the purpose we put into it, anon. I wish it were all for creating beauty.

>> No.12564384

>>12563621
To 让哲学变为群众手里的尖锐武器, obviously

>> No.12564386

Verse has a public responsibility.

Good verse is a public service.
Its method is theology.

Bad verse is a crime.

>> No.12564546

>>12563621
Why do the Chinese propaganda posters have the protagonists with thick eyebrows?

>> No.12564550

>>12563621
To distract our dear comrades from the Tienanmen Square massacre

>> No.12564903

>>12564546

Mao's gay fantasy

>> No.12564995

>>12563718
Fucking retard

>> No.12565084

>>12564546
Remember when this shit was cutting edge propaganda? It almost seems honest, these days. Posters of "We're the government and this is what we want you to think." Nowadays the "government" doesn't really even exist, and the "propaganda" are people (and machines) who represent themselves as the demographic the (owners of) the governments want you to dislike

>> No.12565118

>>12563621
It's the closest to telepathy we have.

>> No.12565426

>>12565118
That’s not a purpose that’s a quality

>> No.12565506

>>12563621
To exist

>> No.12565581

>>12563631

pleb spotted.
Literature is for pleasure alone, namely, the pleasure your mind gets from projecting meaning over an aesthetic experience.
Conveying ideas is something science and philosophy do. Literature does not explain anything nor wants to explain anything to you. Literature puts an experience in front of you and leaves you to judge it. There is no final meaning nor importance of the experience separatedly from your individual life experiencing it, contrarily to what happens for philosophy and science, which are explanatory codes aiming at independent truth value.

>> No.12565620

>>12565581
Eh

>> No.12565651

>>12565581
t. Nabokov

>> No.12566127

>>12563621
To reveal that which shows itself as that which shows itself in the manner in which it shows itself.

>> No.12566148

>>12563621
to make me feel smart when I'm actually a total fucking retard

>> No.12566149

>>12563621
To give life to timeless characters like Winnie the Pooh

>> No.12566153

>>12563621
Depends who wrote it

>> No.12566159

>>12563621
>What is the purpose of Literature?
To spread propaganda.

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12566243

>>12565581
This unironically

>> No.12566257

>>12563621
To distract man from the problem of existing in the world

>> No.12566258

>>12563631
Cringe
>>12563621
Literature, like all art, is for pure aesthetic pleasure. Any and all political literature (and art) is at best a poster and at worst an advertisement.

>> No.12567920

>>12566257

That is a purpose better filled by things other than Literature.

>> No.12567936

>>12563644
You're joking but it's true. All art is intrinsically leftist and progressive in nature. Each book gets us a little bit closer to the revolution.

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12568008

>>12567936
>All art is intrinsically leftist and progressive in nature.

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12568910

>>12567936
hahaha "revolution" hohohoho "leftist" hehehehe "progressive"

>> No.12568942

>>12566258
>Literature, like all art, is for pure aesthetic pleasure.

lmfao

>> No.12569035

>>12564386
>Bad verse is a crime.

By whose definition?

>> No.12569154

>>12565581
Yea published scientific literature is only for pleasure and not for learning. (I'm being ironic)

>> No.12569164

>>12568008
90 bucks is nothing. I spend more than that in a day.

>> No.12569173

to make bok

>> No.12569190

>>12563621
If we define literature = art + writing
then art = the artificial unpractical psychological creation.
and writing = writing

>> No.12569201

>>12565084
Good times

>> No.12569204

>>12565084
>the "propaganda" are people (and machines) who represent themselves as the demographic the (owners of) the governments want you to dislike
The fact that this works so well is ominous

>> No.12569212

>>12563621
Varies by genre. Generally it simulates the brain through a type of hallucination. I guess it's supposed to have a meditative effect to work for a large number of people, but really whatever conclusions you want the reader to draw are at the author's whom. Then again there's also just straight genre fiction, which usually has no moral, at least not a meaningful one, and it's also written to be less absorbing, so as not to accidently leave any change in the personality of the audience

>> No.12569538

>>12565581

FPBP here, dumbo spotted. The purpose of literature is to convey ideas, using the medium of writing. This is a satisfactory definition which encompasses all forms of literature—this is necessary to such a definition as literature includes fiction, non-fiction, and other genres (certain kinds of speculative philosophy can be classed as between the two, for example).

Your complaint has multiple problems: first, literature is broader than the fiction-related genres which your desired aesthetic pleasure probably (but not necessarily) refers to. Second, "conveying ideas" is a general phrase which encompasses and subsumes your particular (wished-to-be) conveyed idea: the receipt of aesthetic pleasure, so you've restricted your universe of discourse when no such restriction was necessary. The third point is just a slight negative variant on the second: "conveying ideas" is not the same thing as "explaining things", but rather a broader former category which again includes and subsumes the latter.

Now, if you wanted to argue the purpose of /literary fiction/, then you might be onto something. But not literature qua literature, which includes law, political books, scientific writings, and the trilingual fold-out instructions which came with the band saw.

Simply put, "conveying ideas" is a general phrase which covers every sort of idea which may be written or spoken of, and "in writing" covers every medium of communication which can conceivably be referred to as literature, as we understand the word. In closing and to reiterate, you're dumb.

>> No.12569978

>>12563621
to make girls think I'm smart

>> No.12569987

>>12564546
some asian people do look like that, Emomali Rahmon for example

I wonder if the rural areas where Mao took refuge in was more filled with that kind of phenotype than the typical Han Chinese