/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.12549913]

Have you ever written letter to a literary figure or a philosopher?
What was the result?

[Anonymous No.12550068]

>>12549913
I wrote to Ryan Russell, asking if there was going to be another book along the lines of Stealing the Network. He got all smarmy about it. It was not a good experience.

[Anonymous No.12550291]

wrote to ben carson congratulating him and hoping he makes more of a splash. also told him to get on camera more and take a win. havent heard back and its been two years.

[Anonymous No.12550317]

I wrote an e-mail to Noam Chomsky about US presence in Syria and have gave a nice well thought out reply.

[Anonymous No.12550323]

Is Ted still taking letters?

[Anonymous No.12550326]

I exchanged emails with Kevin Solway and eventually he came to visit me.

[Anonymous No.12550336]

look up emails to stallman

[Anonymous No.12550376]

>>12550317
Chomsky is surprisingly active in terms of e-mails. I heard he tries to respond to most of the serious ones.

[Anonymous No.12550380]

>>12549913

In college, I once briefly considered writing an equally brief letter to one of my philosophy professors, detailing my views and what I actually think and feel. I decided against doing so, and it's a good thing since that would have got me on the campus watchlist.

[Anonymous No.12550389]

>>12550380
Is eing on a watchlist isn't such a bad thing, in the grand scheme of things?

[Anonymous No.12550432]

>>12550376
It is probably a good tool for him to be able to argue his points from so many assaulting angles as he can have with randomized letters. Formal debates will only provide so many adversarial positions.

[Anonymous No.12550447]

>>12550323
I think so. I want to write to him but I'm not sure if it's worth getting put on every list imaginable

[Anonymous No.12550451]

>>12550432
That's a good point. His own explanation is he does it for the same reason he gives talks and goes to debates and so forth. He feels it is his duty.

[Anonymous No.12550459]

>>12549913
i wrote plato a letter and he said my parents arent home come over

[Anonymous No.12550647]

>>12550447
>I'm not sure if it's worth getting put on every list imaginable
such a sad defeatist acceptance to live your life as a slave.

"I don't want to exercise my freedom of thought, freedom of conscience, and freedom of speech cuz I'm afraid of some lists"

It would be funny if it weren't so pathetic. slave.

[Anonymous No.12550659]

>>12550647
I agree with your message but the delivery is cringe

[Anonymous No.12550665]

>>12550647
this guy fucks

[Anonymous No.12550667]

>>12550659
come up with a better version. educate me.

[Anonymous No.12550709]

>>12550317
>>12550376
Indeed. I had the pleasure of being destroyed by him in discussing whether Scandinavia will eventually reach a similar state as Venezuela because of their socialist policies. Was a pleasure to have the three or four email exchange.

[Anonymous No.12550717]

>>12550709
Sounds interesting. You think you could post them or some excerpts?

[Anonymous No.12550725]

>>12550709
>I had the pleasure of being destroyed by him
did you cum?

[Anonymous No.12550733]

>>12550717
Not the anon you asked but Chomsky is strongly against correspondence with him being shared publicly without his permission.

[Anonymous No.12550745]

>>12550733
not to mention it's illegal.

the courts have strongly upheld that if you have a "reasonable expectation of privacy" via communications, neither you nor the recipients can publicize the communication without the consent of all parties.

[Anonymous No.12550748]

>>12550733
>>12550745
Reminds me of the Sam Harris fiasco

[Anonymous No.12550750]

>>12550745

Chomsky is a celebrity and consequently does not have a reasonable expectation of privacy in most of his interperonal interactions, least of all in e-mail exchanges which he does not have to deign to participate in, so your point is void as argued till here.

[Anonymous No.12550754]

>>12550748
lol Sam Harris is such a pseud douche

[Anonymous No.12550759]

>>12550717
No, I won't do that. Even though I don't think it's illegal, it's certainly bad form. Plus, I recently wrote to him again about another topic which is a slower and more difficult conversation. Would not want to breach that trust.
Can I interest you in the letter I wrote to Sam Harris a few years ago, to which he didn't reply? It has to do with: >>12550748


>>12550725
Let's just say I was intellectually STIMULATED.

[Anonymous No.12550761]

>>12550750
that's not true. courts have upheld that in modes of communication where there is a "reasonable expectation of privacy" you cannot publicize even if a recipient is a "public figure"

[Anonymous No.12550769]

>>12550750
actually, you're right. I take that back. But I have to say I'm shocked that the U.S. doesn't have better privacy protections

[Anonymous No.12550772]

>>12549913
Yes. Charles Stross. I received no reply.

[Anonymous No.12550793]

>>12550759
>which he didn't reply
because Sam harris is a modern Aristotle and is "above" you you little plebe! lol

Sam Harris is such a pseud. yes! please share it!

[Anonymous No.12550825]

>>12550793
Can't find my email copy so I'll quickly transcribe it from the hard copy to google docs. Give me ten minutes.

[Anonymous No.12550846]

>>12550825
All right. You're on the stop watch.

[Anonymous No.12550904]

>>12550825
ding ding ding, time's up. Penalty applied.

[Anonymous No.12550908]

>>12550904
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TE19M5ZzUUXQpAC2huXKA7lq9NgBivVlVBnNa-NkkQg/edit

Hopefully the link works. If not, oh well.

[Anonymous No.12550919]

>>12549913
We had an assignment in school (maybe 13 years old at the time) to read and write a review of any book. I chose a whole series which I was already reading. Wrote an email to the author and in an attempt to impress him I lied about reading through all the 4 books of the series 3 times, instead of just once like a normal person. Then he replied with something along the lines of "wow! 3 times! all the way through?" which my guilty little boy mind interpreted as "I know you're lying you little shit".

I also asked some questions about being a writer and he gave really good replies. Felt pretty good desu because I really did enjoy reading through them just that one time.

[Anonymous No.12550921]

>>12550825
10 minutes far gone anon where are you I hope you're ok and that the sam harris brigade did not put you in jail

[Anonymous No.12550931]

>>12550921
Did the link here >>12550908 work?

[Anonymous No.12550942]

>>12550931
Or here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TE19M5ZzUUXQpAC2huXKA7lq9NgBivVlVBnNa-NkkQg/edit?usp=sharing

[Anonymous No.12550954]

>>12550942
This one works. Well written letter anon, though I'm still reading it.

[Anonymous No.12551961]

Bump

[Anonymous No.12552247]

>>12550709

Can you give us a brief summary of your points and his refutations?

[Anonymous No.12552397]

>>12550908
Ouch!! Dude you addressed him as “Mr. Harris” and not “Dr. Harris”. ?!?!? Ehat the hell where you thinking?! Dont you realize pretentious pseuds like that care everything about their credentials?

[Anonymous No.12552411]

>>12550709
>whether Scandinavia will eventually reach a similar state as Venezuela because of their socialist policies
You're an absolute retard if you believe(d) this

[Anonymous No.12552445]

>>12550919
huutista

[Anonymous No.12552478]

>>12550942
Ok thanks for sharing, a word of advice: when you’re a nobody and your e-mailing a public figure gor the first time, dont ever have anything longer than 1/10th of what you wrote. These people receive hundreds of emails weekly from people like you and why the hell would they invest the time to read somthing so long from s nobody. You should have condensed your main point into a few sentences. Here:

“The thing with better intentions always has the moral high ground, all things being equal. But when it comes to a large and powerful country vs. a small, weak, or culturally backward country, there is a difference in moral responsibility and therefore morsl judgement, The good intentions of the powerful country are morally counterbalanced by their correspondingly greater responsibilities.”

There, simple and sweet.

[Anonymous No.12552725]

>>12550709
Did he explain how it is importing niggers and arabs that will dissolve Scandinavia?

[Anonymous No.12552764]

when i was about in 3rd grade i emailed lemony snicket saying he should reveal Olaf as a time traveler. also dj machale that they should make a pendragon movie and that i could play lead.

[Anonymous No.12552841]

>>12550647
>Kaczynskites

[Anonymous No.12552853]

>>12552841
He isn’t wrong, though

[Anonymous No.12552882]

>>12550323
I hope he is because I plan on writing him one

[Anonymous No.12553366]

>>12552478
Appreciate the advice, and very concise summary! I didn't really consider length, but I did feel a little clumsy trying not to be too bold or assertive in my point.

>>12552247
I attempted to argue that having all the industries nationalized not only undermined the natural incentives of the market, but it probably was irresponsible to set up extensive social programs relying entirely on oil/gas prices. He confirmed that a lack of a diverse economy is somewhat responsible for the problems they were having (this was summer 2017), but it was more the result of capital flight and corruption (corporate AND gov't, which is particularly bad in south America). I then asserted that the socialist model may be good for a while, but soon people will lose their creativity and ingenuity because everything is provided for them; that is, their instincts and incentives to always push forward and create will go unnourished. He came back with the fact that not only has Scandinavia been stable and comfortable for decades, they also score near the top of happiness surveys year after year. The rest was him refuting my follow-up assertions related to the relative "freeness" of an open market, rather than one managed by an entity that can legally demand participation (the government). Also, he made some good points about the free market experiment in Chile under Pinochet, which was an unequivocal failure under near-ideal conditions, and the government investment in US industry to fuel innovation, particularly with respect to computer technology.

>>12552411
Well, I felt like a retard after having a thorough debate about it. So...okay.

>>12552725
We didn't get to the nigger and arab question. Maybe next time I contact him?

[Anonymous No.12553420]

>>12550647
Saying hey to Uncle Ted is not worth giving ATF an excuse to vaporize you and your family at a random time

[Anonymous No.12553428]

>>12550748
Quick gestalt?

[Anonymous No.12553434]

>>12553420
I'm just gonna ask for some advice about ideal dimensions for a hermit shed. Did he ever feel cramped? How well did he utilize the space? Many partitions or open concept? Surely such a harmless inquiry won't get me flagged.

[Anonymous No.12553467]

>>12553428
Sam Harris attempted to have a debate with Noam Chomsky about whether the intentions behind a violent military action changes the morality of it. He basically clumsily asserts that the US was more than justified in its actions following 9/11. Chomsky says that the US was guilty of many violent campaigns before 9/11 and some of these campaigns were publicly and frequently cited by bin Laden as justification for 9/11.

Here's the exchange below as published on Sam's website. Yes, Chomsky comes off as a little grumpy. But Sam comes off as pretty arrogant and close-minded.

https://samharris.org/the-limits-of-discourse/

[Anonymous No.12553471]

>they're making fun of OP again >>12553448

[Anonymous No.12553496]

>>12553471
>advertising your own thread

[Anonymous No.12553547]

>>12553366
You can read up on the Scandinavian model and look into the degree of state ownership.

[Anonymous No.12553566]

>>12553434
Are you going to live in the woods just like Uncle Ted? Why? What's wrong with the cities?

[Anonymous No.12553628]

>>12553566
I'm building a cabin in the woods as a retreat. I have reservations about the increasing "hyperconnectedness" of all devices, platforms, and data. To have a place where I can live for a few weeks or months a year with no connection to society will keep me sane.

[Anonymous No.12553646]

>>12553628
Sounds like a neat idea but why not move there permanently?

[Anonymous No.12553661]

I've emailed Nick Land asking for his religious beliefs. He said something about Chinese folk religion.

[Anonymous No.12553663]

>>12553646
In time, I will. When I retire from my job, I will probably live there most of the year.

[Anonymous No.12553696]

>>12553663
So you are hoping to start really living at the age of 60? Well good luck, people at that age usually don't have strength to hunt or gather, so unless you plan to stash some money now and then live a degenerate hedonistic lifestyle from your pensions I don't see how you are going to manage it.

[Anonymous No.12553766]

[Anonymous No.12553778]

>>12553696
No, the goal is roughly as follows:
>2020: purchase land
>2021-23: place prefabricated cabin on property
>2023-2025: slowly learn off-grid technologies to minimize costs to live there
>2025-2030: continue spending 2-5 weeks per year there
>2030 onward: live there most of the year, continuing to read and write, returning to the city to visit family and friends for holidays, etc.
>~2064: kill self

[Anonymous No.12553910]

>>12553778
"It is not worth the bother of killing yourself, since you always kill yourself too late."
- Cioran

[Anonymous No.12553952]

>>12550389
You haven't done anything worth doing if you aren't on at least one watchlist

[Anonymous No.12553954]

>>12553910
too late for what?

[Anonymous No.12554073]

>>12553952
this. lol. normies are such worthless scum

[Anonymous No.12554575]

>>12550761

The courts are wrong, then. That's a stupid and obviously untrue ruling pursuant to the language that we've been using up until this point, as it relates to celebrities.

>>12550769

Immediately after writing the above reply, I was pleased to find this response. At issue, of course, is the distinction between what is legal, what is morally right, and what is reasonable. Although in this later response, I wonder whether you conceded that I was right in the moral/intellectual sense (obviously), or perhaps even more strongly, in the legal sense that certain cases have found against celebrities for common-sense reasons a la what I've explained up to this point.

[Anonymous No.12554839]

>>12554575
i concede in the legal sense. admittedly, i lied and just assumed that the courts have upheld those protections. but I spent last night reading through the case law and i was completely wrong. I have to admit though i was very surprised and a bit disappointed.

[Anonymous No.12554959]

>>12553661
Is his address publicly out there? I'd consider shooting him a question or two after I finish Fanged Noumena.

[Anonymous No.12555306]

>>12554959
I can’t find it

[Anonymous No.12555551]

>>12553910
Interesting quote

[Anonymous No.12555597]

>>12553434

[Anonymous No.12555598]

>>12554073
>normies
oh the iron ring

[Anonymous No.12555609]

>>12553566
>What's wrong with the cities?

[Anonymous No.12555682]

>>12550336
HAHAHAHAHAHHHHA
Freedom Software man really is on the spectrum

[Anonymous No.12556344]

>>12554073
go back

[Anonymous No.12556839]

>>12550447
you're already on those lists for posting here, but you can just set a drop up

[Anonymous No.12556866]

>>12553628
That actually sounds really nice. A good middle ground

[Anonymous No.12557186]

>>12556839
I don't imagine American operations find their way into edgy counter-culture literature forums.
You're paranoid.